Agree 100% Overeem wouldn’t be on the verge of signing with the UFC if he couldn’t pass a drug test. Also I remember rumors of Schilt in negotiations to return to the UFC at the start of last year. Maybe he’s reached an agreement. Both would be excellent additions to the heavyweight division.

can semmy schilt even make 265? he weighs 293 normally!

He made the weight before in the UFC. I can’t imagine he couldn’t now. Also when Niel Grove who the UFC just signed fought James Thompson in Cage Rage I believe he weighed 300lbs. Now he has to make 265. I guess if the money’s right these guys we’ll just go ahead and cut down to make weight.

Dana wants to get Schilt and overeem for the Germany card

The UFC will pay him more than he has been making that is as long as he win`s. If he loses then probally not.

Yeah the roid testing might be a problem… how long before he fights for the UFC would he have to stop juicing?

I also heard Barnett & Fedor suspected of using enhancement drugs and one of the reason`s they will not sign is because they refuse to take the drug test. I think they should test all MMA organization’s not just UFC it would put any doubt to rest. How many fighters would really want to fight in a event that doesn`t test. I think I know wich one lol.

They do test all the orginazations. After Affliction: Banned they tested Fedor and Tim, and a bunch of the other guys. It’s a matter of what country they’re in. Overeem gets away with it because he fights in Japan a bunch, but Thiago Alves is the perfect example of a UFC fighter that DOES do roids and still passes his tests.

The athletic commission does the testing and as long as Fedor or anyone else for that matter fights in the U.S. they are probably going to be tested…. So Barnett and Fedor probably get tested while fighting in Affliction.

Fedor and Barnett are fighting in affliction and they are required by law to get tested by the CSAC. Barnett has used illegal performing enhancing drugs in the past so I’ll give you that. To say Fedor, on the other hand is a ridiculous claim and there is no strong evidence whatsoever to support that.

thanks Psyqo that`s something I never looked into. I just have been going off what some peaple state in their post. Some peaple are certain fighters do it and never get tested. I take it there are many places to fight that don`t testÉ

“Beaver” that’s ridiculous who besides you has mentioned performance enhancing drugs and Fedor in the same sentence he’s fought for Pride in Las Vegas and Affliction in California and tested clean both times.
Barnett is a different case he tested positive when he fought with the UFC after he beat Randy Couture for the heavyweight championship.

Hey guys I was asking I don’t follow the steroids scandals in MMA. I heard or should of stated I read this a number of times. I do realize most of the time it’s not true. Tyler if you type steroids and Fedor you will find many of times it has been questioned. Sorry I hurt your feelings Tyler by putting Fedors name in their I only put his in there because he has the biggest name outside the UFC. I wanted to put question marks after my statements but I kept getting some other symbol I did not mean to suggest either of them do it.

Now that a know drug testing is based on were they fight and not who they fight for. What countries don’t test. Has Overeem never been tested? If so why all these remarks about him doing roids?

Beaver, don’t mind them. You learn from making mistakes….Japan and Europe do not test but when in Europe the UFC does their own testing(now)… Just ask Chris Leben….

the remarks about him doing steroids starts with just looking at him.. Maurice Greene never got caught in any roid test either, and he had definitely been juicing in his career, there are ways to get around it and pass the tests..

I know he was tested when he fought for Strikeforce in Nov. 2007 in California, and was clean.
Also do you really have to ask why all the steroid rumors for Overeem?
People like to assume the worst and spread rumors because the guy’s bigger and kicking ass right now.
Finally I don’t know why you called me out as the only one you set off with the Fedor steroid questions. Read some other posts others besides me pointed out that was ridiculous as well.

Rob, yeah if you cylce on and off correctly there are ways around it. But now the NSAC is going to fighters camps while training and doing test in the midst of training to make it harder to fool a test.

He is juicing. I’m sure a lot of you on here saw this thread but for those who didn’t…

http://mmamania.com/2009/01/01/the-incredible-bulk-alistair-overeem-putting-the-heavy-in-heavyweight/

This isn’t a case of ‘oh he’s buff he must be on roids’ its a case of the amount of bulk he has put on.

If you look at the 2003 photo, he is still in fantastic shape, lean and cut. To get in that 2003 shape he was eating right and working out daily.

He has then exploded in size after being stagnant for a long time = roids.

The arguments on here for that he isn’t juicing are based around “oh well he has worked out loads and changed his diet”. No thats rubbish, he was doing those things before, then started juicing and boom, much bigger.

Another popular one on here is to shout down people by saying that you don’t know $hit about training or nutrition… well i do. I also know a fair amount about juicing and i can say with no bias or alterior motive that he is, the end.

I also think that a lot of top fighters cycle, im not going to name names because thats just dumb speculation. But what i will say is that if you cycle right and include the masking agents in that cycle you can beat the tests.

I work in a job where we get piss tested and i know for a fact that loads of my friends on average an average wage beat the tests on a 6 monthly basis (we get prior warning, stupid i know).

But my point is that professional athletes with a lot more money and a lot more to loose can juice carefully using the designer, more expensive options and never get caught.

yeah there was only 20 seconds left the ref shoulda given him a chance

It could have continued, but the ref was on his way to stopping it as Coleman was dropping from the uppercut. He looked like he was out when he was going down so I understand the ref stepping in.

I also think that it was stopped to early and that there was a possibilty that he could have got the take down. I agree the ref did get in the way, and Colemans slow reaction was as much to do with being fatigued as it was from the punch he recived. It should definately have been left a bit longer. It sounded like Rogan was rooting for Coleman after a while. I was hoping he would win after watching this second shit performance by Shogun.

WTB steroids which makes me faster and stronger ! Seriously most people dont even know concept how most of pro athletes use steroids. Yes most of them use steroids difference is how good is your lab to make good enough cocktail/program to make it disappear in right time. Any back to concept I never used drugs but I was quite good in few sports where I reached competition level so Ive seen quite a lot stuff. Steroids are used mainly for their regeneration effects nobody except bodybuilders use them to make just muscles. Steroids allow your body work twice hard but still if you dont work extremly hard (yeah steroids dont give you some abilities for free) you wont get any advantage except some useless effects. I dont want to be advocate of steroids but we should accept the fact that its use widely no matter what we will do. In real life situation would you use some pills to make your wage 5x bigger ? I bet you would do and thats what all pro athletes do..

I’m glad you said it. When I read that post I was thinking the same thing Overeem is Six feet Five and over a couple YEARS has gotten bigger, but I said to myself someone that dumb wouldn’t understand anyway.

Maybe he hasn’t but usually your face doesn’t get bigger from working out hard genetics or not…. He has gained 50 solid pounds, either he is a freak of nature or he is becoming one…..

I don’t like making unfounded accusations against fighters, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt on the steroid stuff. He has gained a tremendous amount of muscle, but he’s also just coming into his prime and he could have done it naturally. I’m tired of hearing people say definitively that someone is on steroids, wait until they fail a drug test to crucify them.

If it was that easy to gain muscles then everybody would be doing it..

What are you talking about Rob? It’s not easy to get muscular and in shape and everyone in America doesn’t have a great work ethic to hit the gym lift weights, exercise and follow a healthy diet right. That’s why the obesity problem in this country keeps getting worse. Not to mention not many people are 6 ft. 5 inches with a huge frame.
I guess it’s just easier for some people to just assume someone’s cheating than giving them credit for working hard and improving.

Dudes, that fucker is on the JUICE….. let’s be real. He eats well and work ethic…..RIGHT! more like prayers, vitamins and more vitamins

I’m glad you’ve got it all figured out.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!