World beater: Josh Barnett interview exclusive with MMAmania.com

Josh "The Baby Faced Assassin" Barnett (23-5) -- currently ranked number three on the WAMMA top 10 list for heavyweights -- is set to face Dutch striker Gilbert "The Hurricane" Yvel (35-12-1) in a number one contender eliminator match on January 24 in the co-main event at Affliction: "Day of Reckong" at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California.
Barnett sat out all of 2007 after the Japanese promotion Pride FC was sold to the UFC and eventually closed down. In early 2008 he came back onto the Japanese MMA scene, fighting twice on Sengoku cards, defeating training partners Hidehiko Yoshida with a third round heel hook submission and Jeff Monson via unanimous decision.
Then in July he competed on the first ever Affliction MMA card, avenging an earlier loss in his career to Pedro Rizzo by knocking him out cold with a left hand in the second round.
With WAMMA champion Fedor Emelianenko out due to a hand injury, The Baby Faced Assassin was booked to fight Andrei "The Pitbull" Arlovski in the main event of the second Affliction card in October. The winner of the match would get the first crack at Fedor in early 2009.
But for whatever reason that card fell through and now, three months later, Barnett is basically left as the odd man out. Regardless, he remains only one fight away from a shot at the title. Affliction higher ups have already guaranteed a shot at the winner of Fedor and Arlovski for Barnett if he can get past Yvel.
However, that won't be an easy task.
Yvel is a fantastic striker with 48 professional fights to his credit and 30 of his 35 wins coming by knockout or technical knockout. Not to mention he has a bad reputation in the sport as a dirty fighter. Affliction certainly isn't making the path to a title shot a walk in the park for Barnett, but he feels confident that's exactly where he'll end up.
We recently sat down with Josh and discussed his upcoming fight, his friendship with WAMMA champion Fedor Emelianenko, his future and several other topics about him and MMA in general. He's a true professional and as confident as they come.
Check out the conversation below:
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): How are you feeling man? Any nagging injuries or anything heading into this fight?
Josh Barnett: I'm just one big nagging injury.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): (Laughs) How has your training camp been?
Josh Barnett: It's been going really well actually. I've had great sparring partners like Rampage, JP Fletcher, Ben Jones and they've been a real big help getting prepared for this.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Are you training at the same place?
Josh Barnett: Yep, same place I always train at -- CSW in Fullerton.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Your opponent, Gilber Yvel, is a very dangerous striker, perhaps even more so than your last opponent, Pedro Rizzo, which is scary. Do you plan on using the same approach in this fight as you did in July by trying to win the fight on your feet?
Josh Barnett: I'm going to try to take him out in any way shape or form possible. I don't like decisions and I don't intend to let this one go to one.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Well it's no secret that perhaps your biggest strength, your ground game is his biggest weakness. Wouldn't it be easier to just attack that weakness instead of trying to win at his game?
Josh Barnett: Sure, but if your gameplan is so exposed right away then it makes the balance easier for them to defend it. The thing is I'm not looking to pass up a knockout just to forward through and get a takedown. There's no guarantees in anything, but when I have opportunities I take them.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Do you feel like you have any weaknesses in this fight or do you feel like you're better than Yvel in most areas?
Josh Barnett: No, I don't consider anybody in the world to be at a level that I can't compete at or I'm not better than. I'm really not concerned with anybody. It's all about not allowing them to establish what they want to do. If they can't dictate the fight, if they can't find their rhythm, then whatever it is they want to affect in the fight isn't going to be of much use to them because it's going to be under my control.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): There were rumors of you facing both Brett Rogers and Aleksander Emelianenko before Yvel was officially announced. Which of the three would you fight if it were your choice?
Josh Barnett:Brett Rogers was I guess a possibility, but because of all the legal aspects of the Elite XC scenario right now, it couldn't happen. I was fine with that. Aleksander was absolutely never a consideration. That was just some sort of propaganda that he or somebody else was trying to put out there. He can't even be licensed in the state of California so it's an impossibility for him to be an option for anyone at this point. And Gilbert Yvel was the only solid offer I got, you know, besides Brett, and Brett, well I guess I can't acknowledge because he could never fight.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): You mention Aleksander having some trouble getting cleared to fight in California. Yvel also had problems getting licensed in Nevada for Pride 33 a couple of years ago and some people believe he'll have similar problems getting cleared for this fight. Do you know anything on that?
Josh Barnett: He's absolutely cleared to apply for his license. And the only thing that would keep him from getting it, I would imagine, would be if he failed one of his medicals.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): He's got a pretty bad reputation for his actions inside the ring. He's been caught eye gouging, biting, kicking to the groin and even striking an official. What are your thoughts on facing a guy like that and what are you going to do if he starts in with the dirty stuff on you on January 24?
Josh Barnett: Well if he knocks the ref out there's not much I can do about that (laughs). And if he tried to bite me, you know, I don't really know. It'd be ugly, that's all I can say. I don't really have the same mercy for my opponents as maybe other people do and that just goes for within the rules.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): I'm sure Affliction has a back up plan in case Yvel doesn't get cleared. Have you heard of any possible replacements just in case?
Josh Barnett: No, I haven't heard any particular names at all at this point. All I know is I'm going to be ready for them ... don't know if they'll be ready for me.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): (Laughs) Right on. This is obviously a huge fight for you because a win secures you a match against the winner of Fedor and Arlovski for the WAMMA championship in your next fight. I imagine you'll be keeping a close eye on that one. How do you see it going down?
Josh Barnett: I think it's really going to come down to Fedor's ability to put the fight on the ground. Once Arlovski's on his back I don't think he's going to be able to execute very well and the fight is over I think. I think Fedor's going to establish that control and he's never going to let it go.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Do you have a preference as to which one you face?
Josh Barnett: I don't care about who I fight so much, but I want Fedor to win, he's my friend. I want to see him do well.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Can you elaborate on that friendship a little bit for us and maybe talk about how you guys became friends and what it might be like fighting a friend?
Josh Barnett: Well, I never had any trouble fighting friends before. I fought Jeff Monson who was in some ways a person I've always, I've kind of coached him for the most part, you know. I've been in his corner for a lot of big fights. I've worked with him in the past as been training partners. We just went out there and fought. Yoshida was a training partner as well. I had no problem fighting him, either. I'll fight anybody. I'll fight family if I have to if that's what it comes down to. In terms of Fedor, we just really got along after we just sat down on a night of me, him and Roman Zentsov just hanging out. It turned out that we got along very well and he's a very caring and cool guy. We keep in touch and we want the best for each other. But at the same time we're competitors in the same sport and none of that really overlaps as far as being an issue.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): So if your friendship isn't holding you guys back why haven't we seen a fight between you two yet?
Josh Barnett: Timing and the promoters is what that really comes down to.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): How do you feel you match up with either Fedor or Andrei? Are both of those fights you feel like you can win?
Josh Barnett: Yeah, I think on the feet I can knock either one of them out. I think that Fedor is actually more dangerous because of his ability to mix it up so well between striking and then initiating grapples and taking you down. He keeps people on their toes and he keeps them off balance. It's really a cool thing to see him implement it. As far as the grappling aspect, I think that Fedor would be a much more difficult fight for me on the ground than Arolvski. Arlovski's a very strong, capable heavyweight and when he's doing well he gets stronger as he goes. That's always something to keep in mind, but when things are going tough you usually test the faith.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): What are your thoughts on the rumors of poor ticket sales for this event?
Josh Barnett: They're just that, rumors. I've not heard or seen anything to substantiate them. Unfortunately, a lot of things that people like to point out is the negative. I've read some of the negativity in terms of -- not just Affliction -- but any promotion besides the UFC that's trying to get off the ground. Everybody's got an opinion and they all think they can do a better job. Instead of being happy for the possibility of seeing more great fights and sometimes the match ups you've been wanting to see for a while, I don't know, people are just very, very hard to please nowadays. But, you know, the economy is hurting things and the UFC has a huge lock on the market so it'll be hard to establish your brand amongst that. But you do what you can and if you can put on the kind of fights that get people talking then that's what's going to keep bringing them back.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): You mention the UFC basically having the market locked down. When Affliction had its first show in July, the UFC -- on short notice -- put together the fight night card with Anderson Silva. What were your thoughts on that counter programming, I mean, is that the UFC using dirty tactics?
Josh Barnett: It is, but I mean all is fair in love and war, and apparently business. Personally, I don't think the demise of Affliction would help them in the least. I think what it does is it makes your market, your pool, bigger from which to draw from. Therefore, they would see an increase in funds with a bigger viewing audience for the sport as a whole. And appreciate that Affliction is going to go and do things that UFC either won't or actually couldn't because they weren't interested in dealing with the UFC's particular image, you know, however the view that. But I think if the UFC is a one man show, I guess things will survive, but it's going to be a lot rougher for not just the UFC but the fighters as well. Just maybe the people at the top will get rich, but in the end everybody's out for their own anyhow.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Do you think the second Affliction show in Las Vegas getting canceled had anything to do with the UFC?
Josh Barnett: I'm not entirely sure. I mean it very well could have, but it was very disappointing nonetheless.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Right, you were supposed to fight Arlovski then for the number one contender slot. There are some people who believe you're more deserving of the first shot at Fedor than Arlovski. Do you agree?
Josh Barnett: Uh, I just don't care. I just want to fight. Eventually the fights that are going to be the most important will come my way. And no matter what, I got to win. You never know, the fight that I have with somebody that everybody wants to pass off and just casually dismiss, that might be the fight that's the most exciting one they've ever seen me fight. You just never know what's going to happen until you get into the ring. Gilbert Yvel is a veteran with well over 40 fights. I really think that there could be a really great match up out of this. I don't strive to make my name off beating anybody in particular. I'll make my name off my own merit, my own skills and my own accomplishments. I don't need to be in any specific organization and I don't need to fight any specific fighter. I just need to do the best I can do out there.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Do you think Affliction is going to survive as a mixed martial arts promotion, honestly?
Josh Barnett: Uh, well yeah. If I didn't I wouldn't have signed with them.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): What is your contract status with Affliction?
Josh Barnett: Uh, good (laughs). I'm able to fight for both Affliction and Sengoku if I want, and Pancrase. I'm pretty open to being able to fight most places.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): You're also into the pro wrestling scene over in Japan. What are your thoughts on some of the WWE guys like Brock Lesnar and Bobby Lashley making the move to MMA?
Josh Barnett: Well, if they got the talent then I absolutely support it. I just hope that they can keep some of that persona and ability to personalize and make a character out of themselves when they come to MMA. It gives somebody out there in the fans and the audience somebody to really latch onto. Someone that sticks out -- that's an individual and is interesting and that makes people think or hate or love or whatever the case may be to get some sort of emotion out of them. Instead of being carbon copy, tribal tattoo, goatee, shaved head, board short wearing yahoo that you see on every card.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Right, you mention that if they have the talent then you support them. Do you thin Brock Lesnar is the real deal and worthy of the UFC title or is he just a flash in the pan that veteran fighters will eventually figure out?
Josh Barnett: He's new, I mean, he's green to fighting, I'll give you that. But he's got the gold and he beat somebody that whether you think he could beat the best out there is one thing, but I'll tell you what, any newcomer with three fights getting into the ring would be hard pressed to beat a guy like Randy Couture.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Can Frank Mir beat him again?
Josh Barnett: I put my money on Lesnar, but then again it just really depends on what kind of preparation he's going to do. I think that if he wants to beat Mir, he needs to come out to Fullerton and train at CSW with myself and Erik Paulson. I think if he goes in again he could possibly hit him with those ham hocks and put him out on the ground. The thing is that Mir's dangerous and explosive and he could very easily end up with another leg submission and there goes his new found title.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Do you still wrestle at all? Is there any chance we'll see you in the WWE one day?
Josh Barnett: I don't have any interest necessarily in wrestling in the states so much, but I continue to wrestle over in Japan for the IGF on a fairly regular basis -- at least four matches maybe five matches a year. I even have student named Eric Hammer I have working over there, too. In my mind, whether I'm over there in Japan in the IGF or in the ring in Affliction, they're all pro wrestling to me. I'm fighting for the entertainment of the fans.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): What are some of the differences with fighting over in Japan as opposed to the states? And which do you prefer?
Josh Barnett: I in general prefer to fight in Japan. I've been doing it for a while. The way everything is put together with the promotion, there's a lot less hassle. Even just some of the simpler things in terms of there's food and blankets and pillows and mats and everything and it's all laid out for you backstage. They just really make sure that the fighter is taken care of and that they're as comfortable as they can be to fight the best fight that they can. But also, I love the events themselves. They seem bigger and larger than life.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): After you defeated Rizzo in July, Mirko Cro Cop is now the only man you have faced in your career that you haven't beat. Is a fourth fight with him and a win over him something that's important to you for your legacy?
Josh Barnett: Uh, I don't really know. Sure I would love to beat him. I would love to have a win over him -- a very decisive, clear cut, you know, straight up finish. But it seemed to me that it was always a bad omen fighting Cro Cop. Whether it was dislocating my shoulder, to anything else that may have impeded my ability to be at my best. And that guy, when I fought him he was amazing. He fought incredible fights and he was a world champion. He's tough. He's tough as nails when he's on. And a win like that would always look good on my record.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Where do you see yourself on the list of top heavyweights in the world?
Josh Barnett: I don't give a shit about rankings. I just take a look at the list, you know, it doesn't matter where they place, I just know I can beat them all.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Is there bad blood between you and the UFC and is there ever a chance we'll see you back there? I mean, you never really lost your title.
Josh Barnett: Right, well I don't see it happening anytime soon, especially with the way that I'm able to fight in different organizations as it is right now. Dana White or whoever else it is out there seems to have a real issue with me beyond business. It doesn't matter who I like or dislike in terms of what organization. I just know that when it comes to doing business, I do business unless you are unethical or try to do something grievous to me through the rest of the contract or through business, then we can't work together. But I don't have to like anybody, I just have to do my job.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Do you want to make a prediction for the fight against Yvel?
Josh Barnett: Sure, I predict that Gilbert is going to be wishing he left his finger in the dike instead of coming over here and getting in the ring with me.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): (Laughs) Nice, thanks man. It was an honor getting a chance to talk with you. Is there anything else you want to talk about or anybody you'd like to thank?
Josh Barnett: Just my Web site and my MySpace page.
James Iannotti (MMAmania.com): Cool. Thanks again Josh and good luck to you in the future.
Josh Barnett: Thank you, too.
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Good interview Ionnatti. I think typing these interviews out in the Q & A format is best.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 14, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100% mexi, the Lauzon interview the other day was a brutal read!
by kevin on Jan 14, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Q and A is by far the best format. Even better then a video or audio interviews! NOthing like a good read!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
As some of us maniacs thought yesterday, noons has not come close to signing with the UFC which makes me a little sad for one and only one reason, I wanted him to be knocked the hell out. Melvin G. will be fighting Ronys Torres instead at UFN 18. I am dissapointed with this news i must say.
by ehoglund on Jan 14, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s stuck in Elite like everyone else. I guess they just took the title away, but didnt release him. I just want to see him fight Nate or Nick.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 14, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Q&A portions are like talk shows IMO, LMAO!
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Jan 15, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great interview James. If I recall right, isnt Barnett the highest profile fighter to have ever been interviewed on this site? Big Time interview!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think this is the best fighter they have ever gotten a hold of.
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Adam did GSP?
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 14, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to me Barnett is a better fighter then GSP! A top hW always trumps a top WW. Not to mention GSP is a young pup. Barnett is about as established as one could be at hW!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GSP, BJ, Tito, Rampage, Arlovski, Mir, etc… There’s a ton.
by MMAmania on Jan 14, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im still waiting for the Dan “Stevia” Quinn interview.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 14, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess I smoke too much Mania… my memory is shot! U r right!
OK let me re phrase it…Barnett is the best Heavyweight to have been interviewed by this site
by john on Jan 15, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definately an excellent interview. Keep it up Mania.
I think we all know the outcome of this fight but Yvel should never be counted out until he is out…cold.
I really think josh would have an excellent fight with Fedor too…as he is definately more well rounded than Arlovski while I’d give the striking to Andrei.
It still doesn’t change the fact that Fedor moves so quickly and transitions so well that he is able to beat anyone at their own game while the opponent is left wondering what happened to them. The only way to fight Fedor is balls to the wall and pressure him into a corner somehow and hope you can finish him quickly if any opportunity presents itself.
Unfortunately that is easier said than done against the “Russian Experiment”.
by Ca$z on Jan 14, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KEVIN’S WED. MORNING CONVERSATION:
MMA vs. Ultimate fighting!
I’m seeing guys that are fans of the UFC and don’t have a problem with Dana White all of a sudden referred to as “ultimate fighting fans,” as opposed to mma fans. I get where you guys are coming from, so I’m going to try to explain myself in an objective manner. I watched the first UFC at a friends house when I was 15 or 16, and fell in love with the sport! If we took a poll, I would bet the percentage of guys that actually have watched since the beginning would be low. The percentage of guys who started watching when TUF came on would be high. I don’t think any of us will disagree. I will admit to NEVER seeing the first season of TUF.
Now us “ultimate fighting fans” are being persecuted for wanting affliction to fail. I for one don’t want affliction to fail, but think it will. If it could surpass the UFC as the premier place for mma, I’d be all for it, my stance is one organization with all the best fighters. My opponents will bring up the monopoly not being good, and the competition is good points of view. In 99% of business, competition is great. 2 landscape companies equals competing prices, simple right. The one place competition isn’t good is sports, ALL SPORTS! If there were 2 football leagues, Tom Brady played in one and Peyton Manning played in the other, the two could never compete, how would you determine the better player with the better team? You couldn’t! I, as an MMA fan, want to be able to see the best fights from the best fighters, with no wondering!
A few examples: Vitor (not Victor guys) Belfort, little Nog, Nick Diaz, Jake shields, Robbie Lawler and yes Fedor. I’d rather see them fighting the best than just fighting. If I was the mma king, I’d do away with the heavy weight division too! There is no doubt, Fedor is the number 1 HW in the world, period! But there is also no doubt that he would have to cut less weight than most LHW’s cut to make LHW. Also, I would never have to see Brock Lesner fight again! But seriously, the best fights for Fedor are at LHW, he can’t improve his status at HW! I truly believe a fight between Fedor and Tito could save or keep affliction afloat too!
I make fun of Tito sometimes, but am a fan. He’s fought Rashad to a draw 18 months ago, and lost because of a point deduction, and almost submitted Machida. Yet, some of you ask “who has Tito fought lately?” Um, only two of the top 5 LHW’s in the world…so I ask, who has Fedor fought? I just admitted Fedor is the best HW ever, but who has he fought lately?
I’ve kinda covered two topics in one, and didn’t finish my thought, but can see where I’m going. Do away with affliction (or the UFC), show me the best fights (which includes mega fights with Fedor at 205) and I’ll be a happy mma fan. By the way, if the Tito/Fedor fight ever happened, Tito would be the one to sell tickets and ppv’s. It’s just a fact, Fedor isn’t very popular or mainstream in the U.S. He could be, but does he even want to be?
by kevin on Jan 14, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the Ultimate Fighting label. Whenever you hear a journalist or someone on the street refering to a fighter as an"Ultimate Fighter" you know right off the bat that person doesn’t know shit about MMA.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 14, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t you just make your own blog?
by Brandon on Jan 14, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, just wait for part 2 tomorrow Brandon, it’s all coming together!
by kevin on Jan 14, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin: To respond to some of your post. TIto vs. Fedor would rake in ZILLIONS, no disputing that! and YES Tito would be the one selling that fight.
I also think you are right about Fedor not really caring much about the American Market. Fedor will fight ANYONE…NO doubt in my mind about that, but I dont think he cares about acheiving chuck LIddell status here in the states. As for Tito vs. Fedor…I would love to see it b ut there isnt any amount of $ in this world to get TIto to climb in the ring with that Animal. He avoided fighting LIddel for years, and u think he will lace em up against Fedor? No chance. Especially since Tito ios doing the commentary for the Fedor vs. Arlovski fight. He is going to have to watch ringside a fighter that he would never have the ballz to fight (arlovski)…get DESTROYED by Fedor.. Tito will NEVER take that fight no matter what crap comes out of his mouth.
I wouldnt mind seeing Fedor fight at 205, but I dont think any of them would want to fight him. Several fighters in that division have been on record as saying they dont want any parts of Fedor (rampage and Wandy just to name a fes). I cant see any LHW providing more of a threat to Fedor then Arlovski or Barnett. THere are weight classes for a reason…they just dont apply to Fedor cause he is always fighting bigger dudes. You want to see him fight guys his own size? Not a fair fight if you ask me!
Yes Fedor will never lose his spot as the best HW
by john on Jan 14, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for acknowledging that John, you were the one guy I felt wouldn’t admit it! tomorrow I’ll put part 2 to this, some of you probably see where it’s going, others will soon find out!
by kevin on Jan 14, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post Kev.. nice add on John.. my brain is a bit fried at the moment. So I’m just taking it all in. = )
by PhilQNY on Jan 15, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are assuming these fighters would be fighting in the UFC if the UFC were the only org…..why?
Less orgs means less pay…means less fighters.
If you were just graduating high school and were looking at what post-secondary courses to sign up for…would you sign up for one that is controlled by one monopolized company that you would probably never even get a sniff of? Or, would you look at a different major?
by introvert on Jan 14, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
see to me, more orgs means more ppv’s, which means more money I have to spend! With other “mainstream” sports, we don’t have to pay to see the games, but with mma it’s obviously different! I hear what you’re saying introvert, and think in maybe 5 years, a union will be necessary for the fighters, but it’s just my opinion that one organization, whoever it may be, is better for us the fans! Thats who I worry about, me!
by kevin on Jan 14, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah man look at the NFL who would want to play for that org! The CFL is were it’s at!! The Saskatchewan Roughriders would dominate if they played in the NFL. Check out their record www.cfl.com And they have a better education system in Canada their IQ is 10 higher on average!!
by Beaver on Jan 14, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there is a reason they are called ultimate fighting fans kevin, if you only like the ufc and you want everything else to fail you are a ufc fan and probally not a mma fan, there is nothing wrong with it its like people that only watch the nfl or turn into watch the super bowl and there favorite team changes with who ever won.there is alot of fickle fans here a fighter loses a fight and how many people dump on them.theres nothing wrong with wanting everyone under one org, i am sure everyone would like that if it could actually happen but it won’t and can’t because of the fighters and the ufc. barnett is a perfect example he would fight for the ufc but thety won’t let him and its all personal and not business(its not the steroids plenty of peole have tested positive and are there).there is nothing wrong with being a ufc fan but if you hate everthing else your not a mma fan.i love the ufc they are the best but i would not sell my self short by not watching all mma and all orgs.
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great post Roy! I will co-sign that!
Question to all the maniacs:
What kind of fighting level should you be at before you accept an amateur fight?
I have only been training about 5 months and I dont plan on fighting anytime soon, but what kind of level are amateur fighters at generally? I might have to train another 3 months and find out for myself. I am far from ready, but I got an itch that needs to be scratched eventually, plus I dont mind getting hit!
LIfe has been really kicking my ass lately and I find my only escape being to go train with people that are better then me and get the crap kicked out of me! Fighting is an amazing way to deal with emotional pain. I just filter all my emotions into my work outs. its an amazing release.
I also starting to tap out training partners that I never could before. THis is the 1st time in my young training career that I can actually start seeing vast improvement. Once you can see yourself getting better, thats when this stuff becomes addictive. All I think about all day long, is “this move transitions to this move”, if someone throws a kick, fire back with…"
I used to just be an mma fan junkie. NOw the actual aspects of fights are starting to consume all my thoughts. I need help! lol
by john on Jan 14, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the best way to find out is fight, its not about the win or lose just get in there and see where your at there is no shame in losing just not having the balls to get in there.good luck john i am sure it will be fun win or lose.
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I train, and when i step into the cage/ring for the first time i want to destroy the other person. If your gym does fight nights i think you should do that, even if it is a boxing/kickboxing or just a grappling fight. If you have done that i would look for an event that is debuting other ams. Personally i would rather wait a little longer knowing that i am ready rather then thinking i am and going in there and getting embarassed cuz then it will hurt your pride and you may get discouraged. Also i would get one of your training partners that challenges you, and ask him to go a little harder then normal. and see how you feel after that. did this help?
by ehoglund on Jan 14, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im exactly the same John. I have so many nights in bed thinking of moves I did well and ways I could of counteracted certain techniques better. Once you get that bug thats it.
I think it is sooooo addictive especially with a person like me who has a very technical mind plus there is so much to learn when its new to you that it takes a while to develop a style that suits you.
Where I train BJJ they have nights where they pull your name out of a hat and you can be matched up with anyone else white belt vs purple belt or brown vs blue etc. Its really good because not only does it build your confidence but it gives you a chance to see what level you are at and what you need to work on.
by Ca$z on Jan 14, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for all the great insight Guys! U guys have been a big help!
I got that damn Itch…Its driving me crazy. I will take a lot of your advice guys. Much appreciated!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have a nick name we can watch for the future?
by Beaver on Jan 16, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too. Well said Roy. It always surpises me when so many people on here are praying for orgs to fail. Im so happy Affliction are putting on some potentially great fights. I respect anyone who is willing to make a go of it considering how hard it is to do. I hope they succeed and if not at least they tried.
Its so easy for people to come on here and talk shit but if you really think what AFFLICTION is trying to do for all of us you gotta be grateful. Some people are just never happy regardless. I just wish there was some way I could support the event by buying the PPV over here in England and Im sure there are many more over here that would do the same if they could. MMA is getting bigger every day over here.
by Ca$z on Jan 14, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck in the ring guys, but you have it all wrong when you say we UFC fans want other organizations to fail, MMA is a sport were fans will watch at all levels as long as the fights are even. Watching two guys go at it when they are fairly even is ten times better than watching a lopsided fight, These fights that Fedor and Barnett are picking are all fairly easy wins they would have to make a mistake to lose. Do you really think by supporting that s^it your going to improve MMA, there’s a good fight on that card that should be the main event Lindland vs belfort!! UFC is were the top contenders play and earn respect! Pride is done and we all have to get over the fact that there’s not going to be two top rated fighters orgs out there. There will be other orgs that fighters will get paid well but they will have to fight competition equal to theirs otherwise fan’s won’t buy it as well it will determine who get’s there shot next in the UFC. A great fight is a great fight, like Dana said boxers hyping up a fight and then treating the fans to sub par fights and lopsided fights while padding their wallet’s is what is killing boxing today, Dana loves MMA there is no question about that, Can you say the same for Trump? No you can’t honestly. I will support two leagues that have honest fair fights but I will not support a league that is just after our money or the fighters.
by Beaver on Jan 16, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good post roy! I’m a mma fan, a big fan at that, and do see all the points you guys are making! I just think one organization (whoever that is) is best for us the fans, and a union is best for the fighters!
by kevin on Jan 14, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you mean one organization in the U.S or one org in the world?
by RoB on Jan 14, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i know your a fan, i don’t like that you want them to fail, but your reason for wanting them to fail is better than most i know your not just hating because its not the ufc but i still don’t see how there could ever be just one org in reality.
by roy on Jan 15, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin,
My wife drives a VW Jetta TDI. I have to admit that I was skeptical at first and wanted her to get a different car. Now, 140,000 kms later, great fuel economy, and absolutely no problems…I am convinced that VW makes an exceptional vehicle in the Jetta TDI’s.
Do you think this car would be built the same way if VW was the only car manufacturer in the world? Because, without any competition, I’d imagine at 140,000 it probably would have been in the shop many times by now, would use way more fuel, maybe even be traded in by now.
See my point?
by introvert on Jan 14, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you see introvert, I agree 100% with this assessment! Like I said, more times than not, competition works for the consumer! In mma, the consumer would win with one organization. The fighters would be better off with a union
by kevin on Jan 15, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What fighters?
One org = less fighters.
by introvert on Jan 15, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin were do you think most MMA fan’s live? What country do you think spends the most money on MMA in some way? You would rather support Trump, think he gives to Shi$s about MMA? I know Dana does. The only reason Fedor & Barnett won’t sign with the UFC is because the money they will get paid is determined by their results, why take the chance of losing when they can fight easier opponents and get gauranteed money? If they signed with the UFC the fans would decide who they fight next why would they want that when they can choose. As long as you so called MMA fan’s like yourself pay for a suppose top ranked fighter to beat up on use to be and amateur’s they will get paid garanteed money. Don’t get your hopes up about Tito vs Fedor either Tito’s there for the easy money as well otherwise his wife will have to get back in the old buisness. The fact is the UFC is the Major’s of MMA anything else is Minor league end of story. Don’t get me wrong I watch amatuer MMA all time and it’s awsome. But I will not pay to fill the puss*&s pockets for their BS fight.
by Beaver on Jan 14, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beaver…if you think Fedor/Arlovski is a “BS fight”…you are sadly mistaken. So, Arlovski is an amateur now?
When he was UFC champ, all people could talk about was a fight between he and Fedor. But, he loses to Tim twice (who Fedor beat up in 36 seconds, I might add), and now he’s an amateur?
I’d bet money on AA to beat any HW in the UFC division right now….by KTFO. Tim just has his number…it happens.
You guys need to realize that this dream you have of one promotion having complete control is not good for the fans, the fighters, or the sport. Sure, it would be great for abot a year or so, because you would have big fights (i.e. Fedor vs UFC HW’s….Barnett vs UFC HW’s…Cung Le vs UFC fighters…Arlovski back…Lawler…Mousasi…Condit…Diaz…Jake Shields…Aoki…Hansen…JZ……..it would be sweet to see all these guys get it on with the best of the UFC. But, what happens after that? Where will the best of the best come from? The Ultimate Fighter semen eating house?
by introvert on Jan 15, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Most likely the UFC would grow and become better and would start UFC Europe. Then we would have what we always wanted when pride was around and that`s a world championship belt
by Beaver on Jan 17, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ei Kev, i missed these morning conversations man! Hehe!
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Jan 15, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Arlovski, Barnett is another fighter that has risen to higher ranks without beating fighters ranked above him. I don’t disagree but it shocks me that Nog losing propels so many guys up the ladder.
by NameNotRequired on Jan 14, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
who out there do you think could beat barnett though? regardless of how he moved up the rankings, i really only see a few guys in mma today beating him… he is a solid competitor with a great chance at just about anyone in the HW division
by brendan on Jan 14, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we all nkow I am the Ultimate Fedor fan, but Barnett would be Fedor’s toughest competition by far.
Right now, I got Barnett destroying BOth UFC HW champions!
Do you guys have any idea what Barnett would do to UFC fighters like:
Gonzaga
Herring
brock
Randy
Mir
Kongo
He would kill these guys!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did you see the last interview with fedor its pretty good, i put it up in the hdnet thread
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not disagreeing with the rankings, i just haven’t seen anything similar in other divisions. I think Overeem would do great against him but he might be susceptible to leg locks. Gonzaga would have a good chance against him but i question his heart/will. Fedor kills him. Werdum would give him fits on the ground- stand up i don’t know what would happen there but i am confident in his takedowns from the clinch.
by NameNotRequired on Jan 14, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I reckon Arlovski could KO Barnett. I would definitely back him if they fought. I also like to think AA-Tim 2 & 3 were just bad dreams. I admit I’m awfully biased.
by RobH86 on Jan 14, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor of course also wins against Barnett.
by RobH86 on Jan 14, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey John I think Barnett would lose against 4 of the 6 fighters you have on that list. Stop being a UFC hater you think your a rebel? A pretty F&%$in stupid rebel at that. The only reason he doesn’t want to sign with the UFC is because he can’t choose who he fights same as Fedor they would have to fight who the UFC tells them to fight. I don’t think either would take a chance to blemish their record when they can get paid to beat chumps and idiots like you pay to watch. I gaurantee Cro Cop would of been next in line to fight Fedor and rated #2 HWon your list if he didn’t go to the UFC. But of coarse you wouldn’t admit to that would you? Whatever your smoking stop it’s damaging your common sense. I apolagize for being rude but come on your really noty that stupid to believe that are you!?
by Beaver on Jan 14, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who the F u think you are talking to? I LIVe for the UFC. Just calling a spade a spade.
OUt of the fighters I am about to list, Barnett would be the favorite against every single one of them u idiot! So I am not even being a rebel. Its Fact! As a matter of Fact, I am not so sure that the UFC has ever had a heavyweight that could beat Barnett, with the exception of Cro Cop who is Barnett’s kryptonite. HIm and Nog are tied at 1 win a piece against each other. He beat Randy and would do so easily if the rematch were to take place today and Brock isnt beating Josh…not now! Former or present UFC HW with the best chance of beating Barnett today is Arlovski, but Josh is too well rounded!
Stop sucking on TUF nuts, and get yourself some dvd’s and go watch footage on Barnett. He has been a legit top 5 Heavyweight for years now!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tHanks for the interview link Roy. Great read!
by john on Jan 14, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah you know your stuff sorry to burst your bubble buddy but who has Barnett fought lately?! Monson in a decesion, Yoshida who’s record is 8-7, Rizzo? or Nastula?? Good job Barnett but because you beat Randy back in 02 you should remain a top rated. BS You fight chumps you should be rated a chump end of story. What he in 02 means nothing now so please tell me what has Barnett done lately. But you say Royce Gracie can come back and fight these chumps and you rate a top contender. Find some facts before you talk trash . Because I know you can’t tell me He has done anything lately. Tim & AA got beat before they left the evolving UFC. Don’t get me wrong I like watching guy’s like Fedor beat up on average Joes it fun stuff> Did you see Fedor’s second last fight against Hong man!! Check that out he got paid a pretty penny!! My hero.
by Beaver on Jan 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wont disagree that Barnett hasnt faced the best fighters recently but IMO he would beat or at the very least be favored against most of the UFC HW’s…In fact he would be favored against all of the UFC’s former HW (in their prime) as well, arovskki owuld have a great shot against Barnett and so would Fedor….but other then that, what Heavyweights out there do you see that can beat Barnett? This i gotta hear!
by john on Jan 15, 2009 7:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beaver & John good posts, you both make good point’s and I would have to say Beaver likes the UFC HW comp better & John likes the HW outside better? I’m going to throw in my opinion. First off I think your both MMA fan’s otherwise these post would never happen, If you like UFC only your still a MMA fan. If you like both it doesn’t make you more of a MMA fan you get more MMA action, sound like Beaver watches both but sides more UFC? I have to agree that the fights in UFC are more even than the fights outside the UFC and that’s were the oranizations outside the UFC will need to do to produce more fan’s I would gaurantee UFC fan’s would watch more non UFC events. I know I did when there was Pride. But rating fighters is hard when they are not facing the same opponents. I think there should be some kind of point system that awards fighting against better competition and penalizes you for facing competition ranked way lower(like #3HW vs #9HW). Who do think has the best chance to in that one? I would prefer to see a close match than a lopsided match. that’s why I think the UFC is the best they choose the fights based on what the fans would want to see outside the UFC the fighters choose who they want to fight. We wouldn’t be watching Fedor vs AA we would be watching Barnett in AA’s place if we the fans decided. We pay their wage’s don’t we. i’ll support a organization that show’s me what I want to see anyday over an organization that the fighters choose their fights.
by Derek on Jan 15, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
john, you just said it yourself, CC and Nog can BEAT Barnett and they both have got their asses KICKED in the UFC by three of which were on your list. Funny how those 2 are the best that Fedor has faced too. Maybe it’s time to let your Pride(fighting)biases go, the Pride HW’s never lived up to the hype. I just don’t buy that Josh would kill all the UFC HWs. He would win some and lose some, just like CC and Nog.
by Gord on Jan 16, 2009 2:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched UFC a long time before I ever watched Pride, but I am an MMA fan and can appreciate the skills of all fighters. I definately have Barnett as number two heavyweight and have always thought that he was the only serious threat to Fedor, and if you watched his fights you would see why. If you bothered to watch Barnett and Cro Cop you would know that one loss went to a descision, one loss was because he dislocated his shoulder when he had mount on Cro Cop and the other loss was straight after he just finished fighting a three round war against Nog, when Cro Cop had quick knockout win over Wandy earlier in the night and was as fresh as morning dew. And you must be delusional if you think that Nog and Cro Cop are as good now as they were back then.
by Ade on Jan 16, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he beat randy and has a win over nog. the guy desreves his ranking
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He beat Nog early in 06 and Nog beat him later in 06 sise then what has he done? Nog should be rated higher by what your saying roy?
by Beaver on Jan 14, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, but like Barnett said in the interview he doesn’t give a shit about his rank, he just knows that he can beat the top guys.. and that’s true! he’s wellrounded and a tough guy to beat for anyone that’s why he’s ranked so high.. and if MMA had a champions league every year like they have in football with the 2-3 highest ranked fighters from the top orgs we would know, but that won’t happen in MMA..
by RoB on Jan 15, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“I know I can beat the top guys’s”?? All I have to say is prove it. Last top ranked guy he has faced he lost? But it’s easy to say. check out fighting mma’s top 10 HW and how AA & Tim are on there is beyond me?
http://www.fighting-mma.com/top10/heavy.php
They have Fedor and his inflated record at one Mir at two Barnett three Brock 4 NOG 5 AA 6. Tim 7 Kharitonov 8
Gonzoga 9 and couture 10? His opponents aren’t on there? But then again Tim & AA are ahead of Couture wow? must be to promote the up and coming fights suprised Yvel isn’t on there. My rankings would look more like. Brock 1, He’s the champ in the UFC, Mir has beat Brock & NOG, at three I have Fedor best fighter outside UFC but has faced sub par fighters lately in his career. at 4 I would put NOG even though he lost his last fight it was against my #2, #5Couture same as NOG lost too #1 on my list, #6 Kongo greatly improved moving up UFC HW div, #7 Barnett Fedor’s Biggest competition outside UFC, #8 Gonzaga Another fighter evolving in UFC, #9 AA Overeem good all round fighter he is just missing something?, #10 AA Good striker suspect ground game he has potential if he improves on the ground?
by Beaver on Jan 15, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You obviously have some serious hate for Fedor and also Barnett. You may well be a keyboard warrior blackbelt and with that assume that you are an expert on fighters but the majority of real MMA fighter rank Fedor as the best and number one in the world and I am sure that they would credit Barnett very highly as well. And I think they are a bit more qualified and that their opinions carry a bit more weight than yours, wether you are blackbelt or 5th dan keyboard warrior. Stop your hating.
by Ade on Jan 15, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beaver because you have Fedor at 3 and Barnett at 7. you think they are good fighters just not that good based on their current day competition…? I agree that the ranking system is off how can you compare fighters that haven’t fought…you can’t. And Ade don’t MMA fans have the right to state their opinion’s or hate as you call it when we the fan’s pay the fighters wages. That’s why I like the UFC the fights are chosen based mostly by what the fan’s want to see. If Afflictions fan’s had a say we would of seen Barnett vs Fedor by now?
by Derek on Jan 15, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Dana get this guy in the UFC. I want to see him rematch Couture, Nog and beat on Lesnar.
by stevo on Jan 14, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
those would be great fights that i would love to see.
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Dana would get Josh, Fedor, and Arlovski into the UFC and have a real heavyweight division. Josh Barnett is an extremely talented, well-balanced fighter — I think he will be fighting Fedor later this year.
by San Jose Rob on Jan 14, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
great interview, josh is one of my favorite fighters because he is tough as hell and always fights tough.
by roy on Jan 14, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i thought it was a good interview as well. as far as barnett never really losing the ufc belt, he never eally won it fair and square either by testing positive. i give props to barnett for giving props to lesnar, although i dont see where he had much of choice with him still being in pro-wrasslin. i would like to see barnett in the ufc as well for competiton sake, but i think it is a 2 way street between him and dana. dana doesn’t need him and right now josh doesn’t need the ufc. that could change in the near future though.
by b.w. on Jan 14, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait to see him fight the winner of Fedor/Arlovski!
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 14, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats a great interview. One of the best I have read in recent times. Josh is a good speaker too…
by Nick on Jan 14, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey CagePotato… your link to joshbarnett.tv is missing a ‘t’ at the end (joshbarnet.tv).
by Mike&Ike on Jan 14, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“Someone that sticks out — that’s an individual and is interesting and that makes people think or hate or love or whatever the case may be to get some sort of emotion out of them. Instead of being carbon copy, tribal tattoo, goatee, shaved head, board short wearing yahoo that you see on every card.”
LMAO….classic Barnett.
by introvert on Jan 14, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tito Ortiz is the first part of that and Tim Sylvia is the second part of that..
by RoB on Jan 14, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking Chuck was the second…but Tim too.
by introvert on Jan 15, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Interview. Josh is a legend.
On a much more important note – AUSTRALIA IS NOT MAKING THE PPV AVAILABLE (they have committed to some pussy boxing event!
F***********************CK IT!
by DownUnder on Jan 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
try channelsurfing.net
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 14, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by ( (AdamG ) ) on Jan 14, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
His website is actually:
You forgot a “t” on barnett.
Didnt check to see if anyone else posted about it yet or not. Apologies if someone already did.
by enzo-enormous on Jan 15, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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