Tom Atencio responds to rumors of poor ticket sales for 'Day of Reckoning' at Honda Center
by MMAmania.com on Jan 12, 2009 11:56 PM EST
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Affliction Entertainment Group Vice President, Tom Atencio, today took to the media and Underground Forum to shoot down rumors that ticket sales for his promotion's sophomore effort, "Day of Reckoning" at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif., on January 24, are struggling.
Here is what he had to say:
"Just wanted to come on here and respond to all the rumors going around that we have only sold 1200-1500 seats. First of all i have no idea where this information is coming from, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. In reality we are opening up more seating to accommodate the demand for tickets. This event is stacked from top to bottom, and I personally cant wait to see every fight! For those of you that can't make it out to the event be sure to watch the main card live on pay PPV as well as the complete under card for free on HDNET."
"Day of Reckoning" was was originally slated to go down on October 11, 2008, before being postponed. It was widely reported that poor ticket sales were the reason for the switch; however, Affliction officials indicated that timing was the real reason because it wanted more time to coordinate a successful show following "Banned" on July 19, 2008.
That debut pay-per-view (PPV) offering tallied a solid paid attendance of 11,242 at "The Pond," which was short of the estimated 17,000 it would have taken to sellout the venue.
"Day of Reckoning" will feature one of the most anticipated fights in the history of the sport between WAMMA Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko and former UFC title holder Andrei Arlovski. Matt Lindland and Vitor Belfort will collide in a middleweight showdown and another former UFC heavyweight champion, Josh Barnett, will take on bad boy Gilbert Yvel in another co-featured attraction.
The event is being co-promoted by the Oscar De La Hoya-led Golden Boy Promotions, which is hosting a welterweight superfight between four-time world champion "Sugar" Shane Mosley and Mexican sensation Antonio Margarito just up the road at The Staples Center on the same night.
It's a bizarre development that is more than likely not help when it comes to selling stubs.
Regardless, "Day of Reckoning" is a very important show for the future of Affliction, meaning that it needs as many fans as possible to attend, as well as purchase its pay-per-view (PPV) offering. With less than three weeks until fight night it will be crystal clear real soon just how well the show performs.
Stay tuned. In the meantime, check out the latest "Day of Reckoning" fight card right here.
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I got $20 that this will be Afflictions last show, if it even happens.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 13, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, not buying what atencio is selling. Who thinks they’ll do less than 50000 PPVs?
by NameNotRequired on Jan 13, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this event will smoke the ufc 95 ratings. the lindland/belfort fight alone dominates the ufc 95 card.
by bradpittfightclub on Jan 13, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good one.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 13, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the lindland/belfort? sure Vitor is worth seeing but Lindland isn’t worth shit.. the guy looks like he’s been sleeping 3 years straight without waking up u can just look at him and tell that’s he’s boring, which he is.. I hope Vitor shows his phenomenal handspeed in this fight and knocks him out
by RoB on Jan 13, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man I know im the vast minority on this one, but I like Linland, like Vitor as well, and not sure who I would root for, but I def would put money on Linland.
The dude arguable beat Rampage, it was a close freakin fight, and wasnt too shabby against Fedor. Don’t think Vitor would have done as well against those two opponents.
The Vitor of old would have been a good fight with Linland, but now? I say Linland beats him easily, but he wont finish him, UD.
by The Anomaly on Jan 13, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“one of the most anticipated fights in the history of the sport”…uh, speak for yourself. We’ll see how anticipated it is when the PPV and live gate numbers are released.
by RedDog on Jan 13, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i live walking distance from the Honda Center and i went to see if they had tix left. they still got $50 dollar tix. left. some of the box office ppl told me they dont expect the fight to sell out.
by The5thBeatle on Jan 13, 2009 2:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are houses around the Honda Center? I thought it was mainly industrial around there.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 13, 2009 6:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m only looking forward to a couple of the fights at this event. With that being said, I think it’s kind of funny how some are comparing this card to UFC 95 when that card is free, has more than 2 potentially good fights, and isn’t until next month. Why not compare it to 93, 94 or the WEC event that are happening IN THE SAME MONTH? Oh, I know why, because there is no comparison. It takes Affliction 6 months to put together an OK card, wile the UFC puts together cards that are better than OK month after month. I guess the people in California feel that this is such an awesome card as well, being that ticket sales for this event are through the roof, right?
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 13, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UFC 95 is 10x better than this card
by Synyster [[2009 Year of Gegard Mousasi]] on Jan 13, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what are some of u b@ners talkin’ about, lindland is a beast, hasn’t lost a middleweight fight in over 4 years and would still be in the UFC if it weren’t for the politics. As for “Reckoning” vs. 95… I’ll take Fedor and the Pittbull over Daddy and Nightmare, and I’ll take Soko v Babalu, Lindland v Belfort, and Barnett v Yvel over any other fight on the 95 card as of now. I am looking forward to seeing Maia fight though, as well as dos Santos (hopefully he provides enough fireworks to get his fight on the pay-per-view)… It’s a great few weeks to be a MMA fan
by gobrowns on Jan 13, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i will take your bet mexi, and this show is awsome and better than most ufc cards except for there very best, i know lindland is boring but he is a good fighter will probally beat victor.
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder how the production value will run on this Affliction card. The last card looked like crap on PPV.
by James S on Jan 13, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t call a card with one good fight among ufc rejects “stacked top to bottom.” Why does a t-shirt company think they can just all of a sudden create an MMA empire like the UFC as a side project? And why would Fedor fight for Affliction over the most elite organization in the world? Why does it seem like he’ll fight for anyone in a heartbeat but getting him into the UFC is the longest process ever?
by sdow on Jan 13, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow i think you should tell dana about your school boy crush.
fedor doesn’t want to fight for the ufc because he wants to be able to fight where he wants, and he can’t do that if he’s in the ufc. 2ndly he makes more money outside of it.
Arlovski is no ufc reject, he rejected the offered contract and decided to leave.
most of the fighters on the affliction card aren’t in the ufc because they have chosen not to be.
you think the ufc couldn’t stand to gain a few more heavyweights?
by Katch22 on Jan 13, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the UFC, these would be average to decent fights. Just because some other organization was able to muster up something better than crappy fights doesn’t mean you should be nutting yourself over this card. I agree with sdow … and btw, I’ll be watching them on the internet.
by RedDog on Jan 13, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
congratulations cool guy… like we care what you want to watch? you dont like it? stick to hanging on danas “expletive deleted”
by brendan on Jan 13, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
these would be the headliner for the ufc not average, they don’t even have hw’s like this.
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha yeah right, you tell me which fight would headline a ufc besides fedor vs arlovski
by Bk on Jan 13, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nog vs vlad
barnett vs evl
belfort vs lindland
babalu vs soko
people who already have headlined for ufc
barnett,vlad,belfort,babalu,linland,buentello
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, sorry BK…I guess Sanchez/Stevenson is way better than Barnett/Yvel…Babalu/Soko…Vitor/Lindland…
You’re kidding me right?
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UFC 95 IS FREE, thats the fucking difference between these cards UFC 95 doesnt have to be as good. The only strong fight on the Affliction show is the main event, most of the others fighters are has beens
by subwayy2sallyy on Jan 13, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Soko has no chance at headlining a UFC event, he already had his chance and blew it.
by James S on Jan 13, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he is 24 he will never get better huh he might as well retire
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
introvert, compare them to a ufc thats not free on tv… ufc puts fights on every month, affliction puts them on every… who knows? look at the other fighters headlining fights for the ufc: franklin, henderson, lesnar, couture, penn, gsp, rampage, anderson silva… the list goes on. none of those fighters would headline a ufc unless they faced one of the fighters i listed. the ufc is bound to have a few shitty headliners every once in a while when they put on 10x more fights than affliction
by Bk on Jan 14, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what do you guys expect he’s going to say? “oh yeah, we’ve sold 2000 tickets, come on down day of event, we’ll be giving them away!” This will be the last show…no more than one more!
John, and everyone else, the reason shogun doesn’t get an all access special is simple (not because he’s a pimp)! He’s less known in the U.S. than Fedor! Those mainstream fans (unlike us) only know him as “the guy who lost to Forrest.” Why do you think the UFC bills him as “best 205 pounder out there today.” Because other than hardcore fans familiar with pride, no one knows who he is. As far as John saying he’s a pimp, and they got to keep arianny away from him, I’m amused, but it’s a dumb comment! He’s been married over a 18 months, and even if he wasn’t, do you have his exploits documented, or is this just another man crush? I wouldn’t ask except you’ve posted this over and over for weeks now, “what a pimp shogun is.” I wouldn’t know if he’s good looking, and he has a hot wife, but EVERYONE has banged a hot piece in there life! I just didn’t get the comment I guess! Anyways, point of the post was, he’s not well known enough to garner a special!
by kevin on Jan 13, 2009 6:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NOt everyone has Banged Victoria secret angel,Adrianna Lima though! and for you to respond to my jokes is pretty silly Kevin!
the purpose of the all access should be to get people familiar with him? I refer to him as a pimp becauise of all the Pride stories… I guess today isnt a good day to make jokes around Kevin.
Holla at me when you untwist your panties buddy! lol
by john on Jan 13, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, no panties bunched John, you just put it in every thread for a week! Was just busting balls! I guess I’m naive to the pride stories, but it doesn’t surprise me that he’s banged hot girls, some of the hottest are in brazil, and he’s a “celebrity.”
I agree with you 100% that the all access would have been a good way to expose him to the U.S. fans! I think the ufc missed a good opportunity!
by kevin on Jan 13, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right! Especially since by now all the fans already know who Franklin is and even how he trains.
After he destroys coleman, America will know who he is and the UFC will start promoting him.
I love Brazilian woman, what can I say I cant help it
by john on Jan 13, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You wanna know a theory i hear that i believe is true from teh first show they did… even though they sold alot of seats like 11 thousand or something… i really believe that they only sold about 8 to MMA FANS, and the rest to that MEGA DEATH concert taht they put. Notice if you watch that horriable show(i’d advise against it) that while they where preforming the ppl that wanted to see that show had FRONT row tickets for their show, and where dressed in like heavy metal gear and the ones taht wanted to watch MMA had front tickets to the ring. just a theory makes sence to me atleast to try and help out the sales #.
by ricky on Jan 13, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I also think there is more to the story with Golden Boy Promotions. If you [De LeHoya] were really commited to this being a succesful event, why would you schedule a huge fight on the same night. I wonder if there was some friction between the two parties and this is Golden Boy’s way of teaching them who’s boss?
by Jrandolph on Jan 13, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not anti Affliction but I can not see this ppv having more then 50,000 buys,honestly I think it will tank and be in the 30,000 range..
Its going up against Margarito Mosley, which will take away a lot of buys..Any fight fan on a budget will watch Mosleys fight instead since its free and GSP Penn 2 is the week after and hyped up a lot more then Affliction, plus there is free WEC the night after
by Rob on Jan 13, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It would really be too bad if Affliction goes down. I’m a big UFC fan and I appreciate what they’ve done for the sport I love. Competition is healthy and necessary for choice – for the viewers and esp the fighters. However, a monopoly is never a good thing.Too much power corrupts. Already there have been rumors of fighters not being well compensated if they are not “stars.” Some fighters only get 3G to show and the same to win! Sure they are new comers, but that doesn’t even begin to cover the costs of travel, training, injury treatment, etc. Whereas other sports have unions, as you know, fighters don’t have that. And as we all can imagine, they have a lot of injuries. I’m sure you guys agree that most fighters don’t get paid enough for their efforts. This will not change much if the UFC is the only game around. So guys, help to support these other organizations – I mean, it’s a pretty good card.
by caknakker on Jan 13, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ummm…if you remember the numbers released before, elitexc paid their undercard fighters less, and so does strikeforce…
i know there are a lot of taxes and all, but to go to the gym and train, doesnt cost as much as you would think, it’s more because these young guys who don’t have ‘it’ but still try to do this as a career.
Most fighters in the UFC, undercard or not, end up opening a gym in their name where they teach to get money, or they have a piece of it and their name is used to bring people in.
yes monopoly is bad, i completely agree. Having affliction means we get fights over the next 4 weeks, but what bothers me more, is since it is pretty much monopolized, we dont get
by Rob on Jan 13, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummm…if you remember the numbers released before, elitexc paid their undercard fighters less, and so does strikeforce…
i know there are a lot of taxes and all, but to go to the gym and train, doesnt cost as much as you would think, it’s more because these young guys who don’t have ‘it’ but still try to do this as a career.
Most fighters in the UFC, undercard or not, end up opening a gym in their name where they teach to get money, or they have a piece of it and their name is used to bring people in.
yes monopoly is bad, i completely agree. Having affliction means we get fights over the next 4 weeks, but what bothers me more, is since it is pretty much monopolized, we dont get to see the fighters as often as I would like. A lot of fighters are getting onnly about 2 fights a year which is not enough
by Rob on Jan 13, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides the main event, there is really no must see fight on this card. They could have put Barnett up against someone better and well known.
Also it would have helped if Affliction had a regular show on TV like UFC has with spike so that they could promote their ppv more.
I think the ppv buys will be disappointing. I really hope I am wrong and that Affliction becomes a success so that there is competition for the UFC.
by ProKev on Jan 13, 2009 1:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be watching this event along with about 5 of my friends. I love the UFC, but as was said, monopoly is bad.
by natedogg77 on Jan 13, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree that a monopoly is bad for fighters and fans and I really cannot understand MMA fans that think otherwise unless they are just UFC fans or UFC employees. Some talk about wanting to see all the best under one organization and in theory that sounds nice but the reality is there is no way that can happen. If it was not for Affliction we would not be able to see Fedor because he does not want to sign his soul away to the UFC, Arlovski was not wanted and Dana has personal isssues with Barnett and Lindland. Wether you like them or not, these are some of the best fighters in the world and if the UFC had totall control you would not get a chance to see them. How is this having all the best fighters under one roof. As I have said before, you may have some of the best, but not all, because some will just not want to sign to strict demands of the UFC and petty beefs and issues that Dana has with some fighters means you would never get a chance to see them. The only way for this not to happen is for there to be other organizations to survive so MMA fans get a chance to see all the decent fighters out there. Not just the ones who want to bend over and touch their toes for Dana and the UFC.
by Ade on Jan 13, 2009 6:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummm..check out ticketmaster…the 50$ seats are still available…LOL
in the ufc, those are gone in days!
obviously he’s hoping someone says “OMG I BETTER GO GET MINE” and on the UG…that’s not going to happen…lol
by Rob on Jan 13, 2009 1:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow! You were right Just got off the Ticketmaster site. Attencio is smoking crack.
by Jrandolph on Jan 13, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they need some star fighters
Just some that will make fans wanna catch on
I say bring Tito, everytime he stepped into ocagon tix sold out rapidly
They have fedor
Also bring in kimbo (hate or love he sells fights)
Also id be working trying to draft lashley just for wwe watchers
Just some major names in small places I’m sure it make a diff
by phenomenal angel on Jan 13, 2009 2:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
“they need some star fighters”
no, they don’t. what they need is to build a business properly. stars don’t build your brand; your brand builds stars. that’s the path to success here.
by JB on Jan 13, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tom atencio, get out of business already and have fun with your boyfriend..
by shamo84 on Jan 13, 2009 5:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i like affliction clothing and think its a good idea to try and expand and create another mma organization but you just cant compete with the ufc, i doubt there will be another show.
by Jared on Jan 13, 2009 7:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
agreed, this will probably be afflictions last.. and everyone talks about how a monopoly is bad for business however that never really seems to be the case with sports.. in a business of “necessities”, thats a different story, but in a spectator sport, WE are the ones who control it, without our views/purchases, the UFC would go under as well, and I think the UFC and Dana know that and listen to the overwhelming audience opinions because this IS a young sport. I do agree though that fighters need to be active more than 2 fights a year.
by Chris on Jan 13, 2009 8:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t a sport like other sports, because they are “leagues” with commissioner’s and player unions. Also, the sports leagues do not base most of their profits on PPV buys from fans. The fans and fighters have absolutely nothing to gain from a UFC monopoly.
Think about it this way…
If Ford, GM, and Chrysler were to go out of business, would Honda, Toyota, and VW increase their payroll and lower their price of vehicles? No…why would they? Their employees have less choices…their customers have less choices…therefore they can pay less and ask for more.
This example is alot closer to a potential UFC monopoly, than trying to use other sports “leagues”, because they are both trying to get you to fork our money NOW for the product, and not just trying to get you to buy tickets once and a while, and maybe buy a jersey and cap….they are apples and oranges.
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the ufc is not a sport, its sports entertainment they decide who fights who, who is in who is out all based on who will sell tickects and who they like.
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, you made a better comparison, but i’m not wrong. Be it the fact that the UFC DOES rely on PPV and ticket sales, they MUST continue to better themselves through more stacked cards or more weight classes. If they dont, and choose to plateau, then we will have no reason to purchase a 45 dollar PPV to watch two no-namers slap each other around in a cage and thus the UFC will lose major profit.
As I said, Affliction going out won’t have Dana making shitty cards, he will just stack them as best he can to ensure high PPV sales. I see everyone benefiting. UFC will be forced to pay higher fighter rates if they want the big name fighters to come out. Without the fighters, there will be no PPV sales, ergo the fact that the UFC will have no choice. And as a result, there will be stacked cards which will benefit us fans.
by Chris on Jan 13, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the UFC be forced to pay more if there is no competition? Why would they be forced to stack all of their cards if it’s the only card to watch? That makes zero sense, Chris.
The fact of the matter is, if the UFC were the only ship at sea, there would be less money paid out to fighters, meaning less fighters entering the market…more money coming out of your pocket for PPV’s…more of a possibility for no more free Spike fights for counterprogramming (maybe no more Fight Nights)…etc.
When a company has the market cornered….the employees and clients pay…not the other way around.
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s fair to compare the MMA market to the automobile market. For all intents and purposes, cars are a necessity in most people’s lives. Buying PPV MMA is not. The UFC is trying to grow in audience and producing poor cards at increasing prices isn’t the way to do it. Even if they have a monopoly, they don’t have the luxury of putting out whatever quality cards they want and still having the same number of people pay to see them. If they alienate their fan base more people will start either not watching, or waiting a day and watching the fights online. A UFC monopoly may have a detrimental impact on fighter salaries, but I don’t think it would have a negative impact on the fans.
by GregC on Jan 13, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who are the fans going to watch?
Less competition = less pay = less fighters going into the sport.
Pretty simple really.
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
introvert. the ufc were putting on great shows and having great match-ups loooong before affliction or elite xc came on to the scene.
by b.w. on Jan 13, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually they where bw, but they also sold alot of stinkers because they could, after buying pride and some other orgs coming along they have gotten alot better.
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BW…how many great cards did they have for free…with their MW champ in the main event?
I’m guessing none.
How many will you ever see again if every other org. folds (like you guys seem to dream about)……none.
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im watching this PPV….why in the hell would you not watch arlovski fight fedor? I dont give a damn what promotion they are under..im a fan and i want to see awesome fights…Why do you guys care so much if affliction goes under or not.
by Chiko on Jan 13, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Affliction is right on course with what they started out to do. At no time did they ever say “we are going to be the next UFC”. Their goal was to have 3 or 4 shows…re-evaluate…then go from there.
Still unclear why MMA fans are so happy to gloat about an organization having trouble with ticket sales. What exactly do you guys stand to gain from another promotion folding? Better stranglehold on a monopoly? Less fights? Higher priced UFC PPV’s and tickets? Less money for fighters?
Again…what do “Ultimate Fighting Fans” stand to gain?
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would understand if the UFC was paying them or something.
But their not these people are classic haters. They Want to see the fighters {Fitch} mma promotions, and lately even coaches {aka} bullied by dana & co. Just classic brain washed sports fools.
Fitch belongs on the main card.
by ktown on Jan 13, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t get it either, are they fans of the sport or fans of ufc business.
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s phenomenal that the UFC is doing so well in these troubling economic times. I believe Dana White 100% when he says that the MMA business is a war, and that they’re going to win.
Affliction is a bad joke and a waste of time. They have given no indication at all that their second show is going to be better than their first. Fedor is completely irrelevant to American MMA. The only people carrying his torch are the keyboard warriors online and no one relevant cares.
Why does the UFC need competition? They don’t. The NFL, NBA, etc. don’t compete with another org inside their own sport, so why should the UFC?
Competition seems to be thought of as a way to make things “better” in the UFC. Better for whom? How? Why? They are a monster success and they don’t need to get “better”. Other organizations need to get “better”, not Zuffa.
by Graham on Jan 13, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s what GM thought.
They didn’t get “better”, while other did…now look at them.
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess all you care about is american mma than, make sure you don’t watch any fighter thats in the ufc thats not from america than.thats great that your a ufc fan be proud of it and don’t try to pretend to be a fan of mma.
by roy on Jan 13, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really Graham? I’m pretty sure Josh Childress just left the Hawks to go play bball overseas. Brandon Jennings is over there right now too, and Lebron has even entertained the idea if the price is right. MLS is even worse, the majority of the best players in the world are overseas. Anyways, as was already mentioned, you’re point is moot. You’re comparing apples and oranges. NFL, NBA, etc. all have unions and players associations that fight for the rights of the players to ensure the Roger Goodells and David Sterns don’t act like Dana White’s. Think about it…if any of the commisioners in the major sports acted the way Dana does they would be demonized. And competition would make things better for the fighters(they could go somewhere and fight for more), fans(they wouldn’t have to see the fights only Dana and the Silvas want to see, i.e. Barnett, Fedor, Arlovski), and for multiple reasons. And if Fedor is irrelevant to American MMA, why does everyone keep talking about him? And why do you think other MMA orgs succeeding would be a bad thing? MLB, NHL have both had strikes and they have a players union and minimum salary(that destroys what fighters make) for crying out loud! If you think it would be great for Dana f’ing White to have everyone under his banner, and that everything would just work out great you’re crazy.
by Diceman on Jan 13, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone here realize that if it weren’t for the first Affliction show, Silva, Irvin, Vera, Edgar, etc…would not have made any money on July 19th, and we wouldn’t have watched a free fight card that same night (or recorded it)?
In essense, all you Afliction haters should be hoping they survive…no?
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, does anyone know a Canadian betting site that I can wager on the Fedor/Pitbull fight?
by Brand0 on Jan 13, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take your bet if you’re taking AA.
I’m Canadian.
by introvert on Jan 13, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am taking AA, but I can’t find anywhere to bet since it’s kind of illegal here. And the line keeps getting worse…+275 – +235 in the past couple days.
by Brand0 on Jan 13, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sayin man, tito in affliction
Tix will sell, shit even I would go haha and I’m not a hbbb fan
by phenomenal angel on Jan 13, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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