no sound… whats this all about??

yea whats this all about?

On the subject of all about, what is this?

I agree with Randy. The fighters do need some representation. Unfortunately the only people FRONTING to be that representation is WAMMA, the fake organization that only has its own interests in mind.

Canadian Broadcast talking about fighters salaries, interview with Randy, Mauro, and Dana,

Its about fighters salaries. But i think the randy segment was recorded b4 he came back… Overall its pretty good

I say Unionize, Let them get paid….

Sound works fine. It was another story surrounding compensation of MMA athletes. I do believe that if De Le Hoya can be paid 10 or more million win/lose, these guys can be paid better.

Thing is for unionization to work.. the GSP’s. BJ’s.. The Silva’s.. the Chucks.. and Page’s.. will have to lead the way. and in their eyes.. they don’t need it.. everyone else does.

Dana is a complete idiot. I don’t think a fighters union is the answer. I do think that these fighters deserve some kind of health insurance. Come on dana your excuse is that it is to expensive to insure ultimate fighters is ridiculis. I’m sure its not nearly as much as the nfl pays for there players. I think if dana doesn’t step up soon it will cause the fighters to get a union and then its all downhill from there.

Isn’t this really old? I remember seein the interview with Dana before? Randy talks about ‘nowhere else to go?’, ‘UFC being a monopoly’ etc. What about Affliction & Japan?
Not tryin to say it doesn’t make sense that fighters deserve insurance outside of the cage and not just in, but Dana’s point of how expensive it’d be to get insurance for Ultimate fighters seems a fair point

Ah what the fudge mania? Didn’t say anythin bad!
They make Dana look like a bad guy the whole time as well which sucks

Mania, Nice screen shot of this fine site in the article.

Oh, and if you don’t like the pay, go elsewhere. Fighters are contractors, not employees so benefits are handled differently.

They really painted white as a villain on that one; I will say that the health insurance and benefits would be nice to see for some of the underpaid fighters, but I do not feel sorry for anyone that pulls in 1-2 million off a fight or in a year even; thats more cash than I’ll probably ever see in my lifetime, so as far as the guys at the top of the sport are concerned boo hoo… But the 5k to show 5k to win stuff, I can definatley understand how they are getting jipped.

It doesnt help his cause that Randy is naturally soft spoken and polite, where as the Dana is almost the exact opposite. Its a bit harsh that they seemed to playing sorrowful music every time they showed the fighters and then evil bad guy music whenever Dana was talking. That said I dont think its asking too much to cover the guys outside of the ring as well as inside. Think about how many fights have been delayed or changed because of injuries in training specifically for these ufc fights. I mean how long have we been waiting for Hughes/Serra now? Matt Hughes may be one of the better paid fighters but the principle is the same surely?

That is right Emelianenko – Arlovski is happening in Affliction

Dana’s inability to express himself without dropping the F-bomb will always make him look like a scumbag and a villain. I really respect what he has done for the sport, but when I see interviews like this, I wonder if he is doing more damage than good by being the face of the UFC.

good interview until the dumb bitch at the end starts to speak…why was she allowed to take part in this story?

I think this said it best:

“Last year UFC brought in over 250 million while paying out to fighters 17 million”

It would probably be alot cheaper to approach a group of Doctors with the idea of a flat rate to treat all fighters! A couple Orthopaedic Surgeons, Neuro Surgeons, etc…. Some of these people are huge fans of MMA as well! The doctors that performed my lower back surgery volunteer their services for the state amateur boxing association as well as some high school sports teams. They are well renowned and work on alot of NFL and NBA players! Besides, UFC fights only occur a handfull of times a year! I think they should approach and try to appeal to some of fans that are doctors. Sounds crazy, but, I think it would work!

So…..what should the ratio be? 250M in 100M out? Lets hear what you smart “business men” have to say. I think it should be higher than it is now. and give the injured guys a couple Gs when they are hurt since there are no “major injuries” as per danas comment.

17 million of 250 million is only 7 percent. I can sell oranges
on the street and probably run up more than 7 percent of my net on expenses.

funny how randy shut his mouth when he got his money.

I’m so tired of everyone crying about “the man”.

1) Dana and Co invested and risked all their money to make the UFC work.

2) Dana is responsible for all these guy having jobs in the first place

3) Like White said, Hockey, Baseball, Football have been around for 50-75-100 years. MMA is a brand spanking new sport. These MMA fighters make a hell of a lot more than athletes in those sports did (even percentage wise) when those sports were that young.

4) No one is making these guys fight. This isn’t a normal career path. You aren’t entitled to anything. If you don’t like where the sport is right now financially, then do something else. This sense of entitlement is sickening.

5) Labor is supply and demand. If the fighters don’t like the offered money for a fight… then turn it down. If quality fighters turn down money enough, Management is forced to raise the offer to maintain a quality product. As long as they can maintain a quality product, why should they pay more?

6) I would like to see the fighters make more too, but the sport is in its infancy. If a guys wants a shot to be a big money maker, and he’s offered $4000 for a fight and he accepts it… then he has no right to complain. If you want to risk for the dream, then that’s your choice.

So many people miss the point. Fans or those on the outside arguing what percentage a fighter makes is “fair” is useless. The tough negotiations between NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB athletes and team management are the product of years of back and forth from both sides. This is part of the process, and it will be the same fo MMA. We can’t just say that we think Dana and the Fertittas are making too profit (actually, on Jan 21 you might be able to say that). If you called me up and told me that the guys working on my crew needed to be paid better or that I was making too good of a profit margin, I would be thinking, who is this guy telling me how to run my business? Then I’d hang up on you and get back to work.

lol…

….turn tail.

if the UFC sank and lost the 44 million would the fightes wanna give them some money back??? FUCK NO….

I found this sort of funny at how there were trying to make dana into this big villan, the editing, randy’s comments etc. Nobody really knows whats going on behind the scenes, ya there doing real well now but were deeply in debt for years. I’m sure they’ll iron everything out and personally I think all main event fighters should get a percentage of the pay per views. Everyone starts off at the bottom and its up to the fighter to work his way up, become a star and get the big main events, and win belts. I noticed a few discrepancies in what dana said he said if a fighter gets 50k for showing up and 50k for winning they’ll give a check for 150k for putting on a great show. What is he talking about? Fight of the night,sub of the night or knock out of the night?, I’ve never seen a fighter get more than if I remember correctly about 75k. He also said the sport is 9 and a half years old and then he says 8 years old, sometimes I think he’s kind of full of shit, and exaggerates a lot 7 days a week 24 hours a day, LOL. He’s so inconsistent, he’s also said things like he loves this so much he’d do it for free, said the spider is freaking rich, that he’d retire too if he had the spiders money.?? Does this make any sense What ever, Dana knows what he’s doing and is the reason the sport is what it is today, even though for the most part I think he’s full of shit, my 2 cents.

Where were Randy, Tito, and the other fighters when the UFC was going bankrupt? Dana and the Zuffa Brothers (mostly the zuffa brothers) invested 44 million into the brand name to make this sport legal in the US and build an audience to watch these fights. When you take the biggest risk, you get the biggest reward. Besides Dana is right, he works his ass off promoting this sport. The UFC pours a lot of money in promoting these shows overseas to build a bigger audience, and they have put on FREE shows on Spike TV to build up their audience and make us the fans happy. Dana and the UFC aren’t just sitting on their asses collecting money. They are constantly putting on promotional events and fighting lawsuits to make the sport legal in a lot of states.

fighters need to be making more, bottom line. The UFC is a Billion Dollar buisness, its time the fighters get paid.

They Definitely need to bring up the bottom end. The top fighters maybe not needed as much and they make a pretty good chunk of change. I know nowhere near boxers, but I think they are overpaid anyway.

Whatever they have to do to keep the fighters happy without raising viewing costs. That is what I think. Professional atheletes are always crying about something, but out of all the professional sports I think mma fighters are among the lowest.

I agree with grembone the fighters at the bottom end should be paid at least 10k starting out to show up and 10k for the win.

Randy owes everything he has to the UFC. He is set for life financially due to his gym and endorsments which would not exist if not for the UFC, so he needs to STFU and be grateful for what he has!

this is BS!!! the video shows it exactly how it is… Dana wants to keep the fighter small and his company UFC big so he will cash in HUGE money on the popular guys.. a guy like Brock Lesnar should get paid a shit ton of a more money and every other popular fighter.. Dana is not the most popular guy ín the UFC and he is not the one stepping in to fight, he’s so full of himself it’s ridiculous!..

the more popular the UFC gets, the more of this is gonna happen to Dana White!! and he’s got no real answer for anything..

Ok here we go…The question was asked, “Do you want to be a fu%*ing fighter”? They all said yes! What about the other MMA promotions, of which are a third of the caliber of the UFC, are they paying fighters enough? All the fighters know going into the UFC they are in the Big Leagues…The pay is what they get to perform, if they don’t perform they get paid less, WOW what a concept. If you don’t show up for work, no money, no insurance. You fight because you want to, not because you have to, so convesely you pay for your passion. The UFC is making money that is obvious, so maybe when they recoup the earnest money and then some maybe some and I say some fighters will get paid and it will be incumbent upon them to foot the bill for INSURANCE. I know most fighters don’t train and workout 40 hours a week so why complain like they do? Form a union and see which 2nd rate promotion you will fight in then!

nice little plug for this site!

That is rediculous to think that the UFC should have to get health insurance or pay for injuries that happen to the fighters outside of the octagon. Fighters are essentially independent contractors and free to do whatever they want when there not in the octagon. Should Dana have to monitor each and every fighter to make sure their training is conducted in a safe manner. Fighters fight at most once every 3 to 4 months and for the lesser named fighters sometimes there’s as much as 9-12 months in between fights. If the UFC started paying for health insurance and outside the octagon injuries all that would do is make it even tougher for the guys trying to make a name for themselves in the octagon get a break. You people shouting for Unions and that sorta things just don’t get it. What has Unions done for our country other than pretty much make it impossible for our own auto makers to look for foreign labor and have zero chance of producing a comprable product to foreign companies. Unions would be no different in the UFC they would screw over the fighters they were made to protect (the smaller guys) and the consumers as ticket prices and PPVs would go through the roof. The UFC is an entertainment company and people get paid for how many tickets they sell and lets face it the guys on the undercard is not who the fans pay to see. Comparing salarays to the NBA and NFL just doesnt make sense it is completely different compare it to boxing and asside from the 4 or 5 boxers that actually make any money you will see the pay is much better in the UFC.