UFC Quick Quote: Is Frank Mir's improved striking just an illusion?

Mir didnt look bad against Nog… i would be a little surpised if Mir beats him again though

by Laughey on Jan 10, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

lesnar is right and wrong at the same time.

-mirs stand-up definitely improved.

look back at mir vs wes sims.

look at how sloppy mirs form and footwork was.

look at his sloppy head movement and accuracy.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combos

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.frank through the same combo 2 times in a row~ and landed.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.frank through the same combo 2 times in a row~ and landed.then he would through the same combo backwards~ with kicks.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.frank through the same combo 2 times in a row~ and landed.then he would through the same combo backwards~ with kicks.he really confused nog with his stratagy.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.frank through the same combo 2 times in a row~ and landed.then he would through the same combo backwards~ with kicks.he really confused nog with his stratagy.that said~ mir will beat lesnar…

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.frank through the same combo 2 times in a row~ and landed.then he would through the same combo backwards~ with kicks.he really confused nog with his stratagy.that said~ mir will beat lesnar……again.

but.. lesnars is right about nog not showing up.but lets face it~ even a 75% nog is a dang good boxer.and frank looked pretty impressive with his combostagging up a 70% nog is still improved stand-up.frank through the same combo 2 times in a row~ and landed.then he would through the same combo backwards~ with kicks.he really confused nog with his stratagy.that said~ mir will beat lesnar……again.say word.

by stinky~fingers on Jan 10, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

there is no way he beats Brock standing up,Brock is a lot bigger than Nog,one punch from Brock will send Mir flying,Mir will be to scared to pull the trigger standing up.

by Scott on Jan 10, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

last time they fought mir took a pounding from lesnar.

he got hit standing & smashed on the ground.

mir can take donky punch from lesnar.

i feel if it hits the ground? mir can end it there.

and if its standing?

if mir can imply a similar game plan as randy? i see mir

knocking the beast down~ and smashing him up with a tko victory.

i never said how i thought mir was going to win

cause i have no clue.

i just feel like mir has the advantage in everything

aside from wrestling[but mirs jj will cancel that]

mir even has the mental game over brock.

i got mir winning this fight again.

by stinky~fingers on Jan 10, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That match was pretty much over if it was not for a bad call by the ref,that match should have not lasted 40 seconds.Mir survived the first fight ,he is going to feel like he was on that motorcycle again after this fight.He might wish he was getting hit by a truck instead of Brock’s fist

by Scott on Jan 10, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

‘that match was pretty much over’???

yeah right!. when was mir even close to being knocked out?

he took 3 unanswered donky punches and was still alive.

the ref’s only bad call was the point deduction.

the stand-up was perfectly fine.

putting the fighters back to a netural position is what

has to be done when that happens.

do u think brock should be able to get away with that all the time?

i hope not.

what does the ref’s call have to do with the outcome anyways?

brock just ended up in the same position anyways~

with mir on his back~ getting smashed on.

the fight ended in the same position as prior to the stand-up.

what excuse to u have agianst mir this time?

maybe u should just admit that u dont like mir~

and ur biased opinion over him will always make room

for a good reason he should have lost these fights he won.

dang~ give the champ some respect.

by stinky~fingers on Jan 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir will be the underdog again and unfortuantly this time he wont be able to pull off the upset.

by Colin D on Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, Lesnar isn’t as dumb as he looks. Also now that the win has sunk in, Mir is all back to his cocky self if anyone’s heard him on the radio.

by NameNotRequired on Jan 10, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Stinky fingers that is the point if that point deduction would not have happened Mir was getting pummeled,so it would have not got stood up.Thank you for making my point,and if he was not hurt look at how bad his forehead looked after the fight ,and thats was like 1 minute of Brock’s as you say donkey punches.You think he is going to be able to stand with Brock ,come on now .Mir’s only hope is if Brock gets careless again.

by Scott on Jan 10, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what point did i prove for u??

i said the stand up was FINE..no bad in the ref putting

the fighters in a nutral postition[stand-up]..

i did say he might not have deserved a point deduction

but the stand-up was perfectly fine..

what does this all have to do with the outcome of the fight??

mir still won the fight from his back..

after the stand up it went right back to the ground.

what does the point deduction have to do with anything??

u still havnt answered.

instead~ u just keep running ur mouth about stuff u dont know.

say word!

by stinky~fingers on Jan 10, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you’re on late and a saturday buddy! I was a good stand up! He hit Mir 3 times in the back of the head! Hammer fists or not, the back of head is back of head!
Mir will also win the rematch!
his stand up looked great against Nog! I don’t understand why people can’t just give Mir credit for working hard and overcoming such adversity!

by kevin on Jan 10, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol, now a point deduction is the reason someone gets subbed…how!!???

by kevin on Jan 10, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

comments??
bored on a sat. are you guys up and running tonight or out drinking? just curious!

by kevin on Jan 10, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i think mir’s performance had alot to do with his conditioning, his attitude and his CONFIDENCE in his striking game. he believed from the start that he was the better stand-up fighter and that they would negate each other’s ground game, and he more than proved that. nog didn’t look like his old self which could have been due to health issues, over-confidence or just plain old frank mir is a better fighter than him.

by b.w. on Jan 11, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

stinky without a point deduction the fight ends.. no point deduction=no standup and brock hits him a couple more times and frank gets the loss..

frank better come into this fight like he did against nog but better and faster and he wins.. if he goes back to his old cocky untrained self and relies on the past he gets his ass handed to him 10 ways to sunday :)

by randy murders on Jan 11, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m with Stinky & Kevin on this one. I’m growing tired of all the “if it wasn’t stood up” excuses. Brock didn’t finish the job when he had Mir in trouble. And he didn’t defend the sub.

Like Kev & Stinky are saying, the fight went right back to the exact same place it was prior to the stand-up. In fact, remove the stand-up from the equation and I say we’d have gotten the same result. Frank was overwhelmed from all the machine-gun hammer fists but he was not dazed at all. As long as Mir had his faculties about him it was only a matter of time before Brock got submitted.

I’m rooting for Mir again in the rematch. He’s earned his stripes and paid the necessary dues to be labeled the champ. Lesnar got a free pass based on his popularity. Talented as he is I want to see him lose and EARN his way back to a title.

by Machine on Jan 11, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Machine, while I’m with you guys in being tired of the excuses, remember…Mir was definitely ‘dazed’!! The reason he got the sub was he was fighting on pure instinct at that point. He found a leg, and his training took over. Mir even said he was seeing flashes of white. Hmmmm….I look back on this and find it was a point not worth attempting to debate. Sorry, lol.

by chefdaddy on Jan 11, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My vote goes with Stinky, Kevin, and Machine, they all said it perfectly.

by The Anomaly on Jan 11, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir was definitely giving up, Brocks gnp is so fast that he hit him while he was turning his head.. and what the point deduction did was making Brock even more stressed out in his first fight, it was a mental blow.. no stoppage there and the fight is over! now Steve made a mistake in my mind and Mir catched his leg

by RoB on Jan 11, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

no way lesnar will beat him this time he had that fight won but the ref stood them up cos brock hit mir in the back of the head ONCE didnt get a warning just stood them straight up how fairs that? just watch lesnars gunna smash mir all over WORD!!!

by E9 on Jan 12, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir threw the same combo over and over! The combo wasn’t impressive! But, the fact that he was able to land it over and over, well, whatever! I have no idea why Nog couldn’t figure out what was going on! Maybe he wasn’t 100%! But the same 3 punch combo over and over? Come on! A guy at 50% could adjust to that!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 10, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

that the same crap i have been hearing since the fight ended!

ooh ‘mir threw the same combo over and over’ excuse.

man watch the fight again~

mir only landed the same combo twice in a row~ once.

he was switching up alot of things.

he was kicking~ he threw similar combos backwards~ changing hooks and jabs.

just cause that uppercut was working for him doesnt mean thats

all he did.. he was messing with nogs head.

his stand-up was working and his combos were different according

to when and what he needed to do.

even beating a 70% nog in boxing is dang impressive..

when your punch’s change from hooks to jabs after doing the

same combo? yopur opponent will think u r doing the same thing~

but u are really tagging him with small things diffent from the last combo.

watch the fight closer~ mir was definitely switching thing up.

peeps need to give mir the respect he deserves.

i thought nog was going to win too.

we shouldnt take the win away from mir with excuses~

he dominated a legend~ and deserves respect for that!

by stinky~fingers on Jan 10, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree that Mir’s stand up looked good against Nog! But, I believe Nog was just standing in front of Mir and not moving very much! Everyone’s stand up looks good when they’re hitting a heavy bag! Is there anyone out there that truly believes that there was nothing wrong with Nog that night? And that Mir would make it look that easy against Nog, or any other top five LHW again? Sorry! I think alot of Mir as a fighter and he won fair and square! But, noone can convince me that it was just a brilliant performance and not more than meets the eye! By the way, I’m not a big fan of Nog! But, I’m no idiot, either!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 10, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree. What has he improved? He learned a little 3 punch combo that ends with an uppercut.

I see Mir geting his ass whooped standing with Brock!

by john on Jan 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you Stinky. Mirs footwork was better. His punches were varied and they were very accurate. He deserves credit. However, I agree with John and Scott that he dosn’t stand much of a chance against Brock. But I really hope I’m wrong.

by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jan 10, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree too. That pretty much sums it up.

by LJ on Jan 10, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Right again John, also Mir showed good footwork but his upperbody movement sucks. Couture did good coz he was bobbing and weaving his head. If mir tries that combo on lesnar, he might be eating some XXXL gloves.

by NameNotRequired on Jan 11, 2009 4:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir beat Brock once while brock threw everything he had at him, and he picked apart NOG. ANybody that says Brock will OBVIOUSLY beat Mir is a Mir hater.

by The Anomaly on Jan 11, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I just think Nog underestimated Mir; just look at the shape he was in. Nog looked real bad at the weigh in. That said, Mir showed up and did what he needed to do. I don’t like Mir or Lesnar, but I see Lesnar giving a beat down to Mir.

by SilasM on Jan 11, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i think if you land a combo and it’s effective, you probably should throw it again until it stops landing. brock is impressive, but mir’s ability to end the fight the way he did was even more impressive. it’s not the first time we’ve seen him end the fight from what many consider to be a disadvantageous position.

instead of picking a side and discrediting a certain fighter, we should all appreciate this match up and be excited to see what exciting outcome and how great of a fight it’s going to be – as FANS of mma. cuz at the end of the day, that’s what’s most of us truly are. i think many of us forget that fact far too often.

by fanatic on Jan 11, 2009 7:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno. Brock will definitely have a huge reach on him, go-go gadget arms with huge power. I got Lesnar in this one.

by Brandon on Jan 10, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i’d love mir to fuck him up but, it’s not likely. it’s gonna take fedor to beat lesnar.

by leyton on Jan 10, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

maybe carwin will give lesnar a good go

by sin on Jan 10, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe but that match is probably more than a year away,right now I believe Brock would put him on his back and pound him out.Carwin is almost as big,has larger hands than Brock,but Brock is superior in wrestling and speed

by Scott on Jan 10, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe Overeem can be the man if he signs with the UFC. Who knows? I just hope Brock Lesnar loses against Mir. Anyone but Brock!

by Nick on Jan 10, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously, stupid WWE freakshow…

by brendan on Jan 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone was saying that Brock was going to kill Mir last time, though Mir took a beating he pulled it off. Brock has nothing but power and WWE skills and in the later rounds both those skill will not help my defend a triangle choke or knee bar or naked rear. It will be a brutal fight for Mir but he will pull off the “W”!!!
War Mir!!!!!

by mmamac on Jan 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

same i think by ko not tko

by Jared on Jan 10, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I say Lesnar wins by creamation!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 10, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i Laughed so hard
so Funny

by jono on Jan 10, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol
lesnar is just talking shit man
mir’s striking did improve lol
as much as he could have grown in experience on the ground he’s no where to the level mir is on

i dont know how the fight is gonna go but i gotta say Mir is gonna win..again

by iann on Jan 10, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hey can ne1 think of any gud questions to ask BISPING at the Q & A at UFC 93 weigh ins???

by Randy for Couture on Jan 10, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

When does he feel he is finally gonna get to step-up and take on Anderson instead of these other jokes getting title shots that they do not deserve?

by BrutalKnockout. on Jan 10, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why don’t you fight in the U.S.?

by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 10, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

4 out of his 8 UFC fights have been in the US.

by MoonUK on Jan 10, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah you’re right…. I guess it just seems like he never fights here.

by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 10, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that isn’t all his fault though. the UFC knows how marketable bisping is for their shows over there. they want a big draw so they bring in him for it.

by megatherium on Jan 10, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Lesnar is not bright enough to defeat Mir. He still pronounces Mir like the word stir. It is Mear like fear which is what Lesnar will be feeling when he looks into Mir’s eyes that night.

by MrFyer on Jan 10, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

lmao
“I hope mur beats nogueira so i get my rematch” – lesnar

by iann on Jan 10, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hope he never fixes it. calling him frank mer is funnier everytime I hear it. brock’s got this one in the bag.

by GSPRush on Jan 10, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe he does it just to aggrevate Mir,he knows that it will piss Mir off.

by Scott on Jan 10, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL, yep, they’re both dicks, but Lesnar takes this by KO.

by SilasM on Jan 11, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There is no way in this world that Brock will be scared of Mir,now I willing to bet Mir will be scared of him like he was in the first fight.Actually he will probably be even more frightened because now he knows how hard he hits and that Brock is going to be harder to submit.

by Scott on Jan 10, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir shut Nog down with his standup. It’s hard to pull the trigger and fight effectively, either with strikes or a takedown, when a guy’s standup is confusing and dominating you. So… I disagree with Brock on this one.

by gimel on Jan 10, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree, I’ve been saying it since the fight happened.

Mir threw the same combination over and over, ducking his head and throwing the same uppercut. A decent boxer would have seen those punches coming from a while away.

I believe the reason he succeededis because Nog has been in so many wars, and has been hit in the dome so many times that his reflexes are shot. Yea there was talk about the staph infection and whatnot, but Nog hasnt looked the same in a while, he is slower and gets hit more often than he use to. His reaction time has slowed down ALOT since his prime.

by Juanez13 on Jan 10, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Its true Nogueira was off in that fight, but Mir’s striking has certainly improved a little bit.

by MMA Scraps 2008 Awards on Jan 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think Frank is gonna get "MUR"DERED! But hey! I like Frank!

by Dana's a Crossdresser on Jan 10, 2009 5:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

lesnar is just talkin smack. mir standup looked better than b4 but idk if its enough to beat lesnar again. lesnar has improved a lot and I think will win the rematch. unless he gets cought in a submission. standin up lesnar will kill mir

by TRIKZ on Jan 10, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That just shows that Brock doesn’t know much about striking. Mir’s gonna beat him again anyway.

by 8cott on Jan 10, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Brock is completely right, the standup of Justin McCully would have won easily over Nog that night too, I might have had a shot too because Nog was a standing target waiting to get hit.. and his head was obviously not in the game either you don’t get hit by the same combo that he finished with a uppercut like 10 times in a row..

by RoB on Jan 10, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Everybody looks good against a punching bag and that was exactly what Nog looked like THAT night…….

by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 10, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t care how good Lesnar is on the ground, or thinks he is.. he will need to train for the next 20 years to come even remotely close to Mir’s skills on the ground.

by Luppers on Jan 10, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Luppers that has to be dumbest comment on this thread.

Did Lesnar say his ground was better or close to Mir’s? No. He said he has improved.

It will take 20 years for Lesnar to be as good as Mir on the ground? Mir is good on the ground but he isn’t great, fighting as a heavyweight there aren’t many fighters that specialize in submissions. Why it would take Lesnar longer to learn what Mir has is beyond me. Isn’t it supposed to take years and years of training to compete with the best in MMA? Look at where Lesnar is now in such a short period of time.

Go ahead and keep being a troll and hating on Lesnar because he was in the WWE. Lesnar will win again and you will either find hope in another fighter or go into hiding until he loses.

by Zikron on Jan 11, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir got man handled by Brock for 99% of the first fight and that caught a rookie making a rookie mistake.

What does Mir do if Brock doesn’t make a mistake in the next fight?? I see Brock winning by brutal G AND P in the 2nd.

Nog is a warrior, but he has been in a few too many fights and it shows. Even against Silvia and Herring he got beat up very much and pulled out a slick submissions and a razor decision. Because of Mirs jits he had to keep the fight standing a place where Nog hasnt looked good in a long time. I think Mir was at his best but i don’t even him all the credit for being Nog because father time had a large part to play in that fight.

NOG VS RANDY makes so much sense and would be a hell of a fight.

by S Dubs on Jan 10, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I heard Mir is training with Freddie Roach now and his manager says “Fuck Arlovski, he is the Buster Douglas of MMA.”

by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The_Mexicutioner on Jan 10, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The bad news for Brock is even if Mirs striking improving is only an illusion, his ground game isn’t and once he snaps off his arm I wonder what excuse he’s going to use then. People can get all butthurt over Mir over and over again making them sound like idiots when they predict he’s going to get smashed. But sooner or later people are going to have to give it up to the man and once he becomes UFC Undisputed HW Champion Of The World all the bs and excuses won’t mean a thing.

by EJ on Jan 10, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Well didn’t Dana say afterwards that Nog was recovering from Staph? I’m pretty sure I read that on mmamania too.

There, found it : http://mmamania.com/2008/12/30/ufc-president-dana-white-nogueira-recovering-from-staph-infection-heading-into-ufc-92/

by GrahfZilla on Jan 10, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

When you are as big and strong as Brock, you don’t have to have a lot of skill. All you have to do is land a lucky punch.

by t-dog on Jan 10, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Mir’s got to be crazy to stand with BROCK. If I were Mir I’d play mind games with Brock till he was p****d so bad, then lure him to over-commit and take it to the ground and finish it smooth and slick. If I were MIR I’d be practicing my submissions with wrist weights under water to get them quick as I could.

by WayofTheWarrior on Jan 10, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

lesnar is correct.

by battery on Jan 10, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Your insight has enlightened us all.

by c-war on Jan 11, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Look, Mir got dominated last time. We all know that. No question about it. As long as Brock doesn’t make another stupid mistake he should have no problems. Mir’s stand up is much improved but it just won’t cut it against Lesnar. I think Lesnar has grown up enough in the MMA game to take this one.

by Dman087953 on Jan 10, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I hate all this crap that people, Stinky for example, have been saying about the first fight. There was no verbal warning given ever. The ref is renowned for calling fights and pretty much anything too early. Me being a Canadian, seeing many hockey players unjustly being suspended or ridiculed for hitting players from behind when the recipient turns away from the impact. It is instinct to avoid pain, but give me a break. The guy is unloading and Mir turns his head. Verbal warning followed by a stand-up if the offensive act happens again. Should be a competitive match, but I can’t see Lesnar making the same mistake again this time around. I agree with Lesnar’s comments. I see a 2nd round (T)Ko for Lesnar. In the words of my fellow country men, I was not impressed with Mir’s performance. If someone looks like complete shit (Nog), why put the victor on a pedestal until lightning strikes twice.

Just a thought.

by raetsinner on Jan 10, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The only thing that scares me is, Mir was right. Couture was able to almost take him down and he was at 220. Mir is most likely stronger then Randy.

by MikeD on Jan 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

ok, but Mir isn’t half the wrestler that Randy Couture is..

by RoB on Jan 11, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if the first fight wasnt stood up, brock would have won, regardless if he knocked out mir from those donkey punches, the fight would have been stopped due to mir not intelligently defending himself! is mir a better stand up fighter than herring, dont think so, herring didnt even see that punch coming from lesnar, i cant take anything away from mir cause he did a great job, and executed his gameplan to perfection, but as lesnar said, that wasnt the real nog! brock can take this on the feet, in the clinch, i dont see mir been able to take him down!

by jslim on Jan 10, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Overeem will get caught in a control before he even fights in the UFC.

by Lester the Pimp on Jan 10, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

WAR LESNAR!!

by Bane on Jan 10, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Word!

by Jason T on Jan 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

only man that has stopped Brock in his mma career so far is Steve Mazzagatti, and the worst thing about it is that he lied about giving a verbal warning to save his own ass. let’s hope Big John is back for this fight!

by RoB on Jan 11, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

For those who keep saying Lesnar almost won the first fight against Mir if the ref had not stopped it, I say:

Koscheck almost beat Thiago Alves after he kicked him in the balls. Had the ref not stopped it Josh would have beat him down right there…

oh wait, that is an illegal blow and the ref is supposed to stop it!?

Wait, the same thing happened with Mir!

surprise. I bet if I went and kicked anderson silva in the balls and then eye gouged him and punched him the back of the head I may have a shot, but without cheating I would be helpless.

by Ben on Jan 11, 2009 1:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

that’s certainly a different way to make a point,but i agree with you

by SluggerCitySoldier on Jan 11, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

punching to back of the head is never enforced the same old ufc rules is the only true test of a champ like gracie said just the best guy to use rules not toughest man in world

by barbarrian on Jan 11, 2009 9:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

when huh do just english is that you try talk to speak about??? what?? wtf

by SluggerCitySoldier on Jan 11, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

babarrian…Go back to school bro. I’m giving you the best advice ever right now…

by BrutalKnockout. on Jan 11, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Brock has huge hands so being technical with his punches does not apply. When you see Brock on top punching it looks like he does not have a clue how to hit with precision. Aside from his wrestling,strength and speed i do not see much to his game. Any one with hands that big combined with strength and speed does not need precision when he connects. I am tired already of the Lesnar hype. If he does not progress i do not see him lasting as champ very long.

by EMM on Jan 11, 2009 9:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Lesnar a Well rounded fighter?. this guy believes his own overrated hype.

by EMM on Jan 11, 2009 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

all u haters Mir will win!!!!!! easy…… send lesnear bac to WWE

by rowdy on Jan 11, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

DON’T THINK FOR SECOND THAT THAT’S BROCK’S POV ON MIR. YOU KNOW GREG NELSON SAID IT FIRST. BROCK IS ABOUT AS SMART AS THAT LITTLE RED CAR HE DRIVES!!!

by GREG375 on Jan 11, 2009 10:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

That is a great comment.

by EMM on Jan 11, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LENSAR’S GOT HUGE HANDS TO WRAP AROUND HIS TATTOO!

by GREG375 on Jan 11, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

One of the sad things about being a fan of this sport is the negativity. Why can’t people say that Mir did a good job and leave it at that…it’s always, ‘Nog didn’t show up’. I don’t understand it. I’ve been watching for a long time, and I thought Nog showed up…he’s the same guy who gets whooped for the entire fight and pulls off a miraculous win…just this time he couldn’t. Give credit to Mir, he did well.

by MM_Eh on Jan 11, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I’ve been waiting for this rematch ever since Brock won the title and in my honest opinion, I’m pretty sure Mir is more hungry than ever to get that title back. So unless Lesnar gains a black-belt before fight time, Mir is gonna set it off!

by BrutalKnockout. on Jan 11, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs