MMA Quick Quote: Fedor Emelianenko has 'no technique' when it comes to striking
by MMAmania.com on Jan 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST
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"He's flat-footed, has no technique, but he can punch. That always helps. He's accurate. He'll follow you right to the floor, so he's aggressive. But that aggressiveness can be used to our advantage, I think."
-- Freddie Roach -- the world famous professional boxing training savant -- tells SI.com that WAMMA Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko lacks technique when it comes to his stand up game. He says what the Russian cyborg lacks in that department he makes up for with his accuracy and aggressiveness (see Sylvia, Tim for the most recent example.) Roach is currently working with Andrei Arlovski to refine his striking and prepare him for a possible cross-over to the sweet science. Emelianenko and Arlovski will collide in the main event at Affliction: "Day of Reckoning," setting up one of the best heavyweight match ups in a very, very long time. For what it's worth, Emelianenko is more known for his crafty and tight submissions ... not his striking (at least recently). He is also known to be a bleeder. Can Arlovski find holes in his game and open up a hole in Emelianenko's face? Will the former Pride FC deity once again answer the call and quiet the critics? What say you?
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agree! arlovski ALL THE WAY for this fight. my opinion, arlovski knocks out fedor due to a big overhand right. once again, it’s my opinion. ARLOVSKI!!!!!!!!
not to mention, BJ PENN ALL THE WAY!!!! BJ BJ BJ!
by boardRIDER on Jan 3, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will never happen AA is going to get the shit beat out of him. Mark My Words Boys!! FEDOR WILL KRUSH AA!! And will finally shut freddie up once and for all. and i dont think he will be back after that..FREDDIE IS A LOOSER!!!!!!!!!
by ADAM on Jan 7, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats,,,, YOU ARE WRONG ON BOTH FIGHTS! GSP will DOMINATE BJ Penn, And FEDOR will CRUSH ARLOVSKI with EASE!
by G.S.P.P4P.CHAMP!!! on Jan 8, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You were saying??? Arlovski all the way huh?
by Jarot on Jan 26, 2009 6:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf you talkin? FEDOR FOREVER…
bitchy Arlovski got KO hahahahaa
by Goekhan on Jan 27, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So if he can punch and is accurate why does it matter if hes flat-flooted or if he has no technique as freddie says? isnt the end result being able to punch and be accurate as hes saying afterall. kinda contradicting himself imo. He forgets that fedor might very well try and take him down right away so being flat-footed might not even matter.
And yes, this is the most important/best matchup we have seen in a very very long time, maybe even ever! considering they could both very well be at their peaks right now. They have both been my fave heavyweights so its always been a dream matchup. Whoever wins is fine with me.
by blah. anything can/and will happen in MMA on Jan 3, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bro if he is standing there flat footed he is a target. Yeah he might throw accurate punches but that doesnt mean they are going to land. He is a counter punchers dream! If he isnt up on the balls of his feet he as not agility or lateral speed so he will look like Big Nog in his fight with Mir. Thats what flat footed boxing looks like!
by Extremecoutureguy on Jan 4, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, last I checked, he has been a nightmare for counter punchers….ANY kind of puncher. I love how so many of us think we have fighters “figured out”. But nobody has figured fedor out yet, and IMO, AA won’t be the first.
by chefdaddy on Jan 4, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AA couldn’t beat Tim Slyvia in a standup fight and it was boring as all hell… I think the pace of the fight is going to be AA back pedaling us into a snooze fest.
by THORAZINE on Jan 4, 2009 3:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he didn’t say there was anything wrong with being flat footed and having no technique he was just stating the truth. He never said it didn’t work for him or it was a huge fault.
by machine on Jan 4, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
personally, im just excited for this fight period. i dont care who wins i just wanna see a good scrap. i think if fedor tries to keep it standing it could go either way, but if he takes AA down hes got the win no problem. just my opinion…
by allamerican on Jan 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i really want arlovski to win, but either way im happy cause this should be a great fight
by connor on Jan 4, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, sucks for you guys…..cause Arlovski GOT KNOCKED OUT!
by FEDOR E on Jan 30, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, this is a funny article. This dude is 0-2 on his picks. Fedor knocked out Arlovski in the first round without even getting damage a little bit and GSP beat the living hell out of BJ Penn. hahahahahaha. nice calls.
by bob on May 4, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he has good technique it is called destruction.
by Wanderlei Fan on Jan 3, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
His technique had been called (can fighting) or (freakshow fighting) NOW hes sarting to fight real comp.
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re trying to tell me Andrei is his first opponent you consider to be “real comp?”
Pssst, your Downs is showing.
by Schatje on Jan 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beating Nogueira twice decisively, Mirko in his prime is definitely “can fighting”. Not to mention he armbarred an olympic judo silver medallist and won the sambo world championships.
Who else could he have fought in Pride? You act like he was ducking, whereas these things weren’t in his control. That’s besides the point though.
by Skyline on Jan 3, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened with a Barnett fight? Why not fight Cro-Cop again instead of 185ers? Then some of you say Tim sucks, but then turn around and say Fedor deserves credit for beating Tim, WTF??? There were other options bro! I dont care about Sambo, Im talking MMA!
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Barnett turned down the opportunity to fight Fedor. He didn’t want to so Andrei stepped up to the plate. A little FYI for ya.
by DaneJa!260 on Jan 3, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im talking about in Pride Daneja260! What the excuse for that?
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just saying Barnett was given the opportunity, that’s all. In Pride, Barnett had his own things to take care of first before he could even think about taking on the champ. Co’mon man, he had 3 losses to Cro Cop & a loss to Minotauro to avenge first before he could even be considered #1 contender. Fedor isn’t dodging anyone and he’s the true undisputed champ. Just admit you’re wrong on this one. Its OK… I’m wrong sometimes too.
by DaneJa!260 on Jan 3, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV, I want Fedor to loose to, but there is no way your gonna win in an argument to say Fedor hasnt faced and beaten the best. He has AA and Barnett left to face, and that is IT.
by The Anomaly on Jan 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
welll…theres lesnar. now i’ve never been a fedor fan, but if he and lesnar fight i hope fedor absolutely down right destroys lesnar
by connor on Jan 4, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really dont think Fedor has anything left to prove, i mean his “no tecnique boxing” has kept him undefeated in what? 28 fights? dont see what the argument is here
by brendan on Jan 4, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
While I like AA, and am a fan, you say Fedor does “can” fighting. Have you checked out AA’s resume? Not exactly on Fedor’s level, IMO.
by chefdaddy on Jan 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mant times, People hate on the best. TO bash Fedor’s resume is just silly.
He DESTROYED Nog twice! Once stanbding and once on the ground.
He bullied Cro Cop at a time when Mirko was the scariest man alive.
Beat Semmy Shilt in his Pride debut
Beat Tim sylvia
Beat Marc Coleman twice
Beat Heath Herring
Only UFC Heavyweights that can claim having fought tough competition like fEDOR ARE nOG, hERRING AND Sylvia.
Arlovski,couture,Lesnar,Mir,kongo, carwin, Gonzaga…..They really havent beaten anyone!
by john on Jan 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John,
You can’t really say Arlovski, Couture, Mir, haven’t beaten anyone, if your gonna then turn around and boast that Fedor beat;
Semmy Shilt (decent)
Mark Coleman (another ken shamrock)
Tim Sylvia (need I say more?)
Heath Herring (absolute trash)
by Sean on Jan 4, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey now, herring did almost finish nog, he was just too damn dumb. and who can forget the epic kiss knockout? any one who’s good enough to fight for these organizations are def. not “trash”
by tapps on Jan 5, 2009 7:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree witth db
although Arlovsky is a badass fighter.
by Andrew on Jan 3, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it is not always supposed to be pretty
by Wanderlei Fan on Jan 3, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
are we really talking the guy who backed up a top K-1 level striker in cro cop for the entire fight and who destroyed tim sylvia, whose only strenght is boxing, in 30 seconds?
his boxing certainly works well for him..
by shamo84 on Jan 3, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor/Cro-Cop went to a decision. We saw what happened to Cro-Cop in the UFC! And Tim and Boxing dont go together! What does Mir finishing Nog say about Fedor? Fedor couldnt do it in 2 tries! Fedor had to finish Hunt with a sub, Manhoef who is a MW, maybe small LHW, knocked Hunt the f*ck out! What does that say about your Fedor?
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nog+staph infection+getting old=not same fighter who fought fedor
by brendan on Jan 3, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont give me that bullsh*t!!! As soon as a fighter loses, he got old or is not the same fighter! Some of you guys are the biggest bunch of flip-floppers Ive ever seen! Randy is going to KO Lesnar, next day Randy is to old! Then Wand is going to smash Page, next day Wand is not the same fighter! No way in hell will Mir beat Nog, next day Nog is to old, a former shell of himself, etc. etc. etc.
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so you really think mir is the better fighter nogueira has ever faced?
come on!
by shamo84 on Jan 3, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mir, ofcourse not! But you were doing abit of MMA math, so I did my own!
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anyway we can both agree on the fact that AA is a huge treat for fedor and it’s gonna be a great fight..
by shamo84 on Jan 3, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah JV,
Cuz you knew Gonzaga/Mir/Lesnar was going to do that right? Nice, discrediting the entire notion that a fighter can deteriorate, as well as suggesting fighters are as good as they are at any fight in their career?
What about Gonzaga pre/post Crocop? Mir pre-Nog? Hunt taking K-1 best shots? etc…
Also, I guess you’re betting the house on A.A, right?
by PoD135 on Jan 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it is going to be a great fight as long as andrei keeps it standing. i dont think andrei is a slouch on the ground like some, but fedor is much better than any other hw on the ground. i dont think fedor is as dumb as his fanatics and believes he is a ko artist now. he would be crazy to play into andrei’s strengths and not his weaknesses. looks like it’s going to be alot of sprawl and brawl for arlovski and he does have a hell of a sprawl. roach has had the midas touch for the fighters he’s been training as of late and that could carry over. i dont think roach is being over-critical of fedor, he is just pointing out fedor’s weaknesses, which he does have, even though they are just a few. styles make fights and big dummy’s style is set up perfect for fedor. andrei’s isnt. quick hands and feet, ko power, good leg kicks, excellent sprawl. this fight wont be anything like tim/fedor. everyone is saying that nog and wandi got old at 32. is this the fight were fedor get’s old? well see. cant wait to see it. :)
by b.w. on Jan 3, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NO BW, this is the fight were Fedor EATS another former UFC champion for breakfast. Watch Andre get thrown around like a rag doll. Fedor isnt going to stand with AA, he is going to throw him to the mat and beat the piss out of him.
Keep in mind we are talking about an extremely motivated Fedor here.
by john on Jan 3, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John, havn’t you learned anything from nog’s recent loss? I wouldn’t talk so strong if I were you. Im just worried about you buddy, thats all. ;)
by The Anomaly on Jan 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV, boxing and Sylvia don’t go together, yet sylvia TKO’ed AA. lol. This should be an interesting fight, either way. But I have to give this to fedor. But IMO, the fighter with the best chance will be Barnett.
by chefdaddy on Jan 3, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anamoly. NOg was the only fight I had wrong on the entire card….U should worry about yourself….Im all good!
by john on Jan 4, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV if you think that was even a remote shadow of Nog that showed up against mir then you are bat blind. Also Melvin can probly KO an elephant so that doesn’t say much about Fedor’s lack of power. Anyways, AA’s glass chin will get GNP’ed from his guard to oblivion.
by NameNotRequired on Jan 3, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Name, if thats your excuse for Nog, then I can have that same excuse for fighters that Im a fan of! Manhoef can KO an elephant LOL! Then what happened with Moussasi? And I never questioned Fedor power!
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, you’re fooling yourself maybe, but not anyone who knows anything about MMA. Fighters are supposed to improve until they reach their prime. When they start to have bad showings, it’s fair to say that they are past their prime, especially when you consider someone like Nog. Look at the guy… he looked tired, sloppy, and his training camp wasn’t bad at all. This guy just isn’t in it anymore. Does he really look in his early 30s? He could pass for 40-45 easily.
And Manhoef, I’m not talking about his height “bro.” The guy is shredded and would not have to gain any weight to fight in the heavyweight division naturally. Manhoef is a K-1 striker… anyone can KO anyone if they hit the right spot. How else did Randleman KO Crocop? Randleman is not a K-1 striker by any means.
by Skyline on Jan 4, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t read the whole thread before I posted my first reply.. Wow, you’re really a Fedor hater aren’t you? You’re one of those people who uses MMA math. Cro-Cop has been mentally broken for a while now. Mir finishing Nog says that Nog is past his prime. Compare what he looked like facially against Fedor to now, against Mir. The guy looks like a bad horror movie. Fedor subs Hunt.. that’s a bad thing? Fedor knows better than to strike with a person who’s primarily a striker. Why play someone else’s game? This isn’t “ultimate boxing,” this is MMA. And Manhoef a small LHW? The guy is gigantic and his power has never been disputed by anyone. In fact, he’s the ONLY GUY to KO Hunt, so aren’t you using an extreme example?
by Skyline on Jan 3, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you read the whole back and fourth Skyline, then you would have seen I was using MMA math to counter Shamo84’s math! (Cro-Cop mentally broken) (comparing Nogs face from back then to now) Those are excuses bro! Melvin is gigantic? LMFAO! hes 5’8" you must be a little person? I hear you on the not playing someone else game!
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if he KO’d Hunt then Hunt must be getting old. so I guess now you can win by decision, KO, Sub and got old. this sport gets more interesting all the time!
by RearNakedJoke on Jan 3, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
still gigantic and would KO any hw out there..
by RoB on Jan 3, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he touched them on the chin with a good shot..
by RoB on Jan 3, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim and boxing don’t go together. What does that say about Arlovski who lost to him twice and anybody else who has not been able to beat Tim as quicly as Fedor did. Keep on hating.
by Ade on Jan 4, 2009 4:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV, so what you’re saying is, just because Fedor went to decision with CroCop and AA is better than CroCop, Fedor is going to lose to AA?
MMA doesnt work like that. Take a look at the UFC Light-heavyweight division,for example. Chuck Liddell beat Silva, who beat Jardine and Jardine beat Liddell.
So you cant presume things like that.
Plus, the CroCop we saw in UFC was well out of his prime. Especially after the Gonzaga fight where his knee ligament got seriously damaged. Thats why hes having all those surgeries still on his knees. The CroCop in PRIDE was the man who beat Barnett 3 times, Wanderlei Silva & Aleksander Emelianenko.
And Nogueira has been knocked out by Dan Henderson before, so does that make Dan Henderson better than Fedor?
Now I’m not saying Fedor’s gonna win 100%, AA stands a very good chance in winning too. I’m just correcting your bias logic, JV. So just stfu and enjoy the ride.
by sadf on Jan 24, 2009 5:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Enough with Tim Silvia, HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well maybe not sucked but close. Who did he beat?? AA twice, that is saying something, but if he beats Fedor it KILLS Fedors Rep… He beat Vera, hayyyyy.. He didn’t beat ANYONE but AA. Screw Big Tim. He’d be better at basketball.
by iagoof22 on Jan 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by the way, if dana white had kept AA happy, and not put him on the undercard against o’brian, affliction would not have had the opportunity to put on such a great fight together
by shamo84 on Jan 3, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And if Fedor was never born none of this could have happened!
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jan 3, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably after the Cro Cop fight
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The _Mexicutioner on Jan 3, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are right, then I stand corrected
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The _Mexicutioner on Jan 3, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
definently after crocop fight
by doctorbadasscoffee on Jan 3, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its definently from the crocop fight, Fujita only landed one punch…
by doctorbadasscoffee on Jan 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
which fight was it after again?
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The _Mexicutioner on Jan 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your quick wit just keeps coming!
Don’t you think you should pursue a career as a nightclub comic?
by Marshall on Jan 3, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I hit the big time, I’ll send you tickets in the nosebleeds, Marsha.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The _Mexicutioner on Jan 3, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t figure skating. Fedor is hardly a brawler, WTF are these mooks talking about.
by Nate Dogg77 on Jan 3, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is Freddie Roach talking technique… Roach is hands down one of the top Boxing trainers ever… Fedor throws those Chuck Liddel type..come from nowhere punches. Like Roach said..He can punch, and he’s accurate. boom. if it stays on the feet, could be a hell of a fight.
by rawbert on Jan 3, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is Roach…Andrei’s trainer…now why would he say something negative about Fedor…hmmm!
Either way Fedor wins. I just hope its one hell of a fight even if its just Fedor beating the ish outta him.
I love these Fedor threads…it sure brings out the haters. I wonder if they’ll all shut the f@ck up if the mighty Fedor dominates another top HW. I doubt it…that will just probably fuel the hate even more!
by Ca$z on Jan 4, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt AA’s chin can take any punches from Fedor. Remember when Sylvia dropped him in the UFC. Also, if Roy Nelson was almost able to pull off a Kimura on Arlovski, imagine what Fedor will do to him. I got Fedor by TKO.
by El_Mexicutioner, formerly The _Mexicutioner on Jan 3, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arlovski better work on his ground game some more. In his last fight against Nelson his ground game didn’t look that great. If that was Fedor in Nelsons place I guarantee you Arlovski either would of been submitted or brutally ground n pounded.
by rydinlow on Jan 3, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with DB. Fedor by sub and AA’s first loss as such.
by Musket on Jan 3, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fedor will want to stand up with arlovski he likes to stand and trade apparently.. i got AA but tko round 3
by randy murders on Jan 3, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The more I hear freddy roach speak the more I want to slap him, I think Mr. expert talks out of his ass.
by nathan on Jan 3, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can roach coach mma? his comments make me wonder if he knows enough mma to apply his sweet science inside the octogon. maybe mma fighters will never be able to box as well as boxers, but in boxing you dont have to worry about kicks, clinch, or knees.
by COR on Jan 3, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I had not tequniqe in striking whatsoever when I started mma, I spent hours a day punching and kicking a bag, when I stated training in actual gym I banged it out with all the muay thai ppl. And I had wars with all of them. So I agree its how u know where and how to hit if u wanna hit fast with strength, there’s no way to train for a wild striker, and that’s what I like about fedor sooner or later he conects ant hurts ppl.
I like arlovski too I think he may be only one to defeat fedor, if not I don’t think anyone can, just yet.
by phenomenal angel on Jan 3, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor looks good in this picture compared to what he’ll look like after Arlovski gets through with him.
by prophet on Jan 3, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha I love it. AA will take this one. Don’t forget to watch Arlovski 360 on his site or youtube.
by theCloser on Jan 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is going to the ground, sambo v sambo shall be very interesting but i do feel fedor will be too crafty on the ground. fedor win by sub, possible arm bar or kimura, he will tap immediately as we all know he entering the world of boxing after this fight so he’ll tap immediately if fedor gets an arm.
AA much better boxing skills, will probably knockdown fedor and follow him on the ground where fedor will grab an arm and win by sub
by roy on Jan 3, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ROY. you are one of the more intelligent fedor fanatics. :)
by b.w. on Jan 3, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AA weakness is his ground game. If he can keep it standing we will have a war on our hands.
by Tha_Pimp_man on Jan 3, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Firstly, you are kidding yourself mate .. he has been on the ground with some of the best submission guys on the planet and he still couldn’t be submitted or pounded out. Have a look at his last fight. He is well rounded and has hips as good as Fedor.
by DownUnder on Jan 3, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm doesn’t come across well in type.
Roy Nelson was setting AA up for a submission and if it hadn’t been stood up, my money was on him finishing it.
Fedor by submission.
by Space on Jan 3, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV – agree. I am sick of people talking about that fight …
by DownUnder on Jan 3, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all Roy did was lay his big fat gut on Arlovski,that was the only problem Arlovski had,he was not use to some big fat ass in MMA,and Arlovski has been in with some of the best HW submission artist and they could not do sh#t to him.I think that Arlovski is going to shock the MMA world on the 24th to many people are just writing him off.What is everybody going to say when it happens ,Fedor is getting old ,he was hurt what I want people to go ahead and say it.All people will be doing after the fight is making excuses for him there will be 200 excuses and about 20 people laughing their asses off.I will be the first to give Fedor credit if he beats AA,and he will cement himself as the best fighter in all of MMA,but if he doesn’t it will make his entire career look like a farce
by Scott on Jan 3, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn’t say it would make it a farce, when you lose to a top fighter. thats like saying anderson silva is a farce because he lost to chonan.
by Buttcrack Obama bin Laden on Jan 4, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Freddie Roach coming out and making a statement like this puts him in a very interesting position … If Fedor comes out and destroys Arlovski he loses some credibility as a standup coach in MMA and it also signifies that you need to know more that “traditional boxing” for MMA.
However, if Arlovski out strikes Fedor, Freddie is a genius …. I can not wait for this fight! Only few weeks left!!!
by DownUnder on Jan 3, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that’s the case. He’s not saying Fedor’s striking sucks, he just says he has poor technique. But Fedor has uncanny reflexes, hand-eye co-ordination, power, and explosiveness so he can get away with it. I think Roach is actually complementing Fedor in a way. I bet Roach could turn Fedor into a great boxer.
by Pat on Jan 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has perfect MMA technique. For those who don’t know MMA strikes actually use the entire body, starting from the foot pushing into the ground. Hence, the sick power Fedor generates.
Freddie is saying Fedor doesnt have boxing technique – good punching, but not boxing – and Freddie has been teaching Arlovski this technique …. so back to my previous statement, we will see if ‘traditional boxing’ can handle the MMA equivalent.
by DownUnder on Jan 3, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C-mon DownUnder, “perfect”???? If Fedor throws his looping punch, and AA throws his right down the middle, what happens? In one of Fedor’s videos he was saying that your suppose to have your wrist bent when you throw a strike! Thats an automatic hand breakage, aint it?
by JV on Jan 3, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV, I agree with your comment about the wrist mate, but like you say he throws looping punching, and with his hip and body position, is lands perfectly.
Look at the size of Fedor compared to other heavyweights, he is tiny … but its the absolute power he generates .. and the fact that he generates so much speed in doing this now, from so much practise … makes it perfect. Guys are not used it, it is hard to defend.
by DownUnder on Jan 3, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV,
BJ Penn gives the same advice for throwing a punch. Freddi Roach said he’s probably he best striker in MMA. How’s that for some MMA math.
by AA on Jan 4, 2009 4:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AA will stay outside and try to box, but eventually Fedor will explode with a take down. And from there all the pitbull can do is to stay alive.
Fedor by submission at end of round 2.
by SLH on Jan 3, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why do boxing trainers insist on acting like they know anything about MMA?
by mma news on Jan 3, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow, introvert we are agreeing more and more everyday….who would a thunk!
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 4, 2009 5:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Freddie is the best thats out there, no question about it. The fight will start standing up. Advantage AA, but I’m telling you Fedor wont go there and trade, he is way too crafty for that. He’ll counter with a takedown and go and submit AA from there. I dont think Fedor needs to be told who has the better standup. He’s no fool.
by roy on Jan 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This fight wont make it past the first round if AA wins its via KO like he did vs Buentello but thats his only chance. If the fight even hits the floor for 10seconds its over Fedor wins. If it stays standing Fedor can still win easy as well. But AA definitely has the best boxing combined with speed/power Fedor has fought before so it wont be a lock.
by Khaos_Warrior on Jan 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
definently after the crocop fight
by doctorbadasscoffee on Jan 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I give this fight advantage to Fedor but with the upsets happening left and right in MMA. I wouldn’t be surprised if Arlovski won.
Freddie Roach is a very creditable boxing coach but he’s just critiquing Fedor from a boxing perspective. Meaning Freddie Roach has a point from a boxing perspective but with MMA its a whole different story. Boxing in MMA is different because of the all the different aspects of offense and defense. For example, you can kick, and you can duck underneath a shot and go for the double leg takedown. Roach is only training Arlovski boxing not MMA. On top of that he’s not training with Roach 100% boxing for this fight. I heard it was only for a month.
Accuracy is one of the best things to have in MMA and Roach says Fedor has that. I’m going for Fedor on this one especially because he’s coming off a loss from his Sambo match so he’s definitely hungry for the kill.
by skelow on Jan 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just rewatch fedor destroy Sylvia with bombs. Fuck that shit, Fedor is the man. Remember is entry to the ring ? The guy looked like Sylvia just killed is wife.
by Daddy Lupo on Jan 3, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fedor will find a way to win, he always does. think about it, arlovski is already setting up his transition to a new discipline.. even he knows hes not going to win. fedor has two things going for him that arlovski cant contend with 1) Overall skill and talent. 2) Size of heart. Fedor is the #1 heavyweight and the best pound for pound fighter in the world and he’ll continue to prove it. Dana needs to just get it over with and sign him already..
by cmon- man on Jan 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“WE CAN USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE…..I THINK” WOW that sounds pretty confident lol. This fight will be over in the first minute, Fedor by TKO or worse!!
by the spyder on Jan 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That picture is after the CroCop fight. 100% sure. War fedor
by JF on Jan 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will destroy AA, First round by KO or SuB
by Il Nino on Jan 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Roach is assuming everyone in MMA is going to strike with Arlovski?
Fedor 1st rd sub.
by DirtyML on Jan 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its difficult to say who’s best p4p fighter
Fedor has credability but he has only defeated heavies or smaller guys
Silva defeated middle and light hw but has losses
Personally I think
Miguel torres or kid yamamoto are the best p4p
If u have a similar fighter as a silva or fedor in torres or kids weight class
In a body frame of 135 / 45 fighter
I doubt they can win against either
Also for ww gsp fighting fedor shrunken down to 170 lbs
by phenomenal angel on Jan 3, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we all get that….believe me p4p is a joke because it is all based on theory and opinion. There is absolutely no way to prove who is P4p!
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 3, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Duh, Freddie! I thought he might say something more intelligent than that. Kinda reminds me of watching Sunday night football when John Madden just repeats the same obvious stuff over and over again. We all know Andrei is in a league of his own when it comes to stand-up, but its useless if he can’t stop Fedor’s G&P and submissions. I just don’t see AA getting the opportunity to truly exchange punches with Fedor. Maybe he’s gonna pull off some kind of miracle and master the takedown defense like Chuck for Liddell vs. Couture II & miraculously KO Fedor… Doubt it though. I think AA has already accepted losing to Fedor if he’s already making plans to go to boxing. Boxing sucks, stay with MMA, Andrei.
by DaneJa!260 on Jan 3, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor shouldn’t wear so much eye make up, it makes him look cheap!
by Ray on Jan 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
im arlovski fan and theres been alot of ppl gettin ko’d lately so arlovski ko round 1:D
by Jared on Jan 3, 2009 6:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only way Andre wins by KO is if Fedor trips and hits his head on the way to the ring…..lol!!! Seriously though as much as I would love to see someone step and actually give Fedor a fight, Andre aint the guy. This will be a classic fight were Fedors opponent is beaten before he even steps into the cage.
by Spyder on Jan 3, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only way Andre wins this fight by KO is if Fedor slips and hits his head on the way to the Cage.
by Spyder on Jan 3, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Tim Sylvia can beat Arlovski (twice!), Fedor can annihilate him. Fedor via 1st round submission (armbar).
by Belisarius on Jan 3, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So is this Arlovski’s last MMA fight before he changes over to boxing?
by CaptainAmerica1967 on Jan 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he is planning on doing both…….
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 3, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Andre’s lack of heart combined with the beating he is going to take at the hands of Fedor, I believe this will be his last MMA bout.
by the spyder on Jan 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lack of heart? so it doesn’t take heart to do boxing.. who are you kidding
by RoB on Jan 3, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont care what it takes to box, I hate boxing as a sport but I love it as one part of the MMA fight game. I believe that it does not take much heart to walk into a ring/cage and get the shit kicked out of you for a paycheque. If this fight lasts for more than a minute I will be shocked.
by the spyder on Jan 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who steps in a cage and fights at a championship level has heart that’s ridiculous!
by Marshall on Jan 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t understnd people who are entertained by mma but not a good boxing match.
by jonsey on Jan 4, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Freddie Roach is always talking shit. He was doing the same about De La Hoya before the fight with Pacquiao.
by Ian on Jan 3, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
just curious because I remember Manny whoopin a$$ in that fight!
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 4, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Simply put, I don’t think Fedor is ready to stop being FEDOR!
by MrFyer on Jan 3, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Funny stuff…
JV is especially funny…classic stuff here!!
“Fedor/Cro-Cop went to a decision. We saw what happened to Cro-Cop in the UFC! And Tim and Boxing dont go together! What does Mir finishing Nog say about Fedor? Fedor couldnt do it in 2 tries! Fedor had to finish Hunt with a sub, Manhoef who is a MW, maybe small LHW, knocked Hunt the f*ck out! What does that say about your Fedor?”
WOW!!!
by hankd on Jan 4, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
So do you think that Nog is the same fighter now as he was in Pride back then, if your crazy if you do. I am not sure if Hunt is the same either, but you realy do need to go and check out a few of Mark Hunts fights to see how tough he really was, win or lose.
I’m curious, are you a Hacksaw Jim Duggan like flag waving patroit, who is just pissed that a Russian is considred the best in the world or are you an MMA fan that just likes UFC fighters and is pissed that an ex Pride fighter is considred the best in the world. And what does it say about your opinion when all the best fighters in the world consider Fedor to be number 1. You maybe a keyboard warrior black belt, but think I will go with the opinions and knowledge of people who really know what they are talking about.
by Ade on Jan 4, 2009 4:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the millionth time…..MMA math does not work or add up! in any case Arlovski for the win……. Please Andrei
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 4, 2009 5:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cro cop went through many surgeries and lost his motivation to training when he enter the ufc, thats what happened to him, just cus cro cop got his ass kicked in the ufc dosnt mean shit, why dont you watch when nog actualy kicked more ass in pride notice how he dosnt have a fukin belly in pride, then watch how outta shape he was vs mir, you know how many beatings nogueira been through, was bout time he almost got ko nog isnt shit compare to what he was in pride, fedor hasnt lost his level besides being busy makin a movie lately his thumb being fractured and him making commercials decreased his performance by 10% but he still KTFO AA at his most extreme level, fedor also faught hunt with a sickness kinda says alot about his fedor trust me your wrong
by iknowitall on Feb 14, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An 18 wheeler truck has no “technique” but if it hits you…it will f&^% you up.
by suckit on Jan 4, 2009 6:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The bones in my drum tell:
Jumping left hook by Fedor, followed by takedown, some accurate g’n’p, side mount, hammer fists, AA turtles, armbar at 3rd minute in the 1st….schweeeet
by Lappish Shaman on Jan 4, 2009 9:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
FEDOR WILL WIN THIS 10 TIMES OUT OF 10!!!!!! ARLOVSKI IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE AND THERE STATS ARE PROOF! ONCE AGAIN FEDOR WILL DOMINATE!! HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST MMA FIGHTER. FEDOR IS TO MMA AS JORDAN IS TO BASKETBALL!!
ARLOVSKI LOSES TO SYLVIA TWICE,
FEDOR BEATS SILVIA IN UNDER A MINUTE!!! OH AND HE BEAT NOG X 2, CRO COP ,HERRING, RANDLEMAN, COLEMAN X 2 AND VAN DAMME
YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A GENIUS TO WORK OUT WHOS GONNA WIN THIS ONE!
BROCK VS FEDOR-
FEDOR BY KNEEBAR BECAUSE TO MAKE IT A FAIR MATCH FOR BROCK WE HAD TO TIE FEDORS HANDS BEHIND HIS BACK!
by MMAKilla on Jan 4, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
whahahha no techniqque whahah your funny, and arlovski does right? he dont even can make a good knee Fedor will out strike him ands whoop his ass.
Fedor will win again…
offcourse
by UFCISGAY on Jan 4, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
“he dont even can make a good knee Fedor will out strike him ands whoop his ass.” …… wtf does that mean?
by Psyqo78®™ on Jan 4, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Andrei is too fast,the first wild haymaker Fedor throws will be countered immediately and the Pit Bull will put Fedor on queer street then he will finish Fedor with hammer fist like he did with Eilers. then many keyboards around the world will be ruined for Fedor sac-huggers crying on them causing damage to keyboards around the planet.Some will go as far as to end their own life and i say good riddens!
by SluggerCitySolider on Jan 4, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see crocop vs fedor? Crocop was an awesome k-1 fighter with real well rounded strikes. Fedor went the distance and one the stand up fight as well. AA has been built up by fighting guys he matched up well with. They needed another start and AA really is a top 10 heavyweight. Fedor has good head movement he slips punches and counters being on the balls of your feet and bouncing make it easy to be swept
by hatteras on Jan 4, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
To say Fedor has no technique is ridiculous, you dont do what he does at his level for the amount of time and domination without any technique. I will call it the “DOMINATE YOU IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME TECHNIQUE”…….its a good technique!!!!
by Spyder on Jan 4, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want to see how Fedor get over him :)
Andrei think, that Fedor hasn’t studied for this battle ;) We’ll see!
by b113 on Jan 16, 2009 3:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
andrei got owned plain and simple heres the more sad part for AA, AA is hyped up to be the way better striker then fedor vs fedor the better ground striker, fedor’s strongest ability didnt go down in the fight, and he KO arlovski standing on arlovski’s game.. after owning tim sylvia fedor fractured his thumb and cut him out of training boxing untill it healed.. he took a little time off by only training sambo and some ground game also he was busy making a movie making commercials and dealing with the media, just kinda shows how un prepared he was for this fight, and AA still got KO, AA trained so fing hard for a while, and even harder for this 1 and fedor didnt, now if fedor was fully ready for this fight arlovski would have been slaughtered like a bug splattering on a car wind shield just wait now he cant afford not to not train anymore + how he felt with his sambo loss he will be more extreme i exspect
by iknowitall on Feb 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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