Fields Dynamite!!: Alistair Overeem vs Badr Hari (video)

hope mania doesn’t pay you for this one jesse, he posted it a half hour ago in the proper thread!! lol!
stick to the funny lines and anecdotes, leave the hard stuff to mania!
just busting balls buddy,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 11:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

First of all, Manhoef is a BEAST, I would love to see this guy in the UFC. Secondly, WAMMA is ridiculous! And for that matter, so is any ranking system that doesn’t have BJ Penn as the #1 LW in the world. Its a no brainer! BJ would KILL Aoki, no doubt about it. Aoki cant strike at all and he isnt taking BJ down, so game over! Lastly, HMC blows and so do K1 rules.

by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Dec 31, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I have a feeling that if the UFC didn’t protect him by giving him strikers he could go the way of Houston Alexander.

by DDT on Dec 31, 2008 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes exactly you see what happend manheof any time he did fight a grappler! he got subbed easily.
he is too one dimensional to be in the ufc and have a chance at winning

by the heat on Dec 31, 2008 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sean Sherk is a striker?

by Bauh4us on Dec 31, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wish Pride were around! They would have booked ManHOeef vs. Wanderlei K-1 rules! NOw thats a fight!

by john on Dec 31, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

my money would be on Manhoef for sure!

by RoB on Dec 31, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

MMA Mania has THE MOST UNEDUCATED fans in the world. They’re the same idiots who won’t admit Shinya Aoki is the BEST lightweight fighter in the world!

by Robert on Dec 31, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha Shinya is my Favorite LW but him and BJ would be a scrap.

by belfort_fan on Jan 1, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I said this in another thread in response to Kevin but I’ll re-state it here as well. BJ is that dude and he has a distinct advantage in the stand-up against a guy like Aoki but…..Aoki is aggressive and almost always finds a way to get it to the ground. You should really try and check out at least 3-4 of Aoki’s fights and you’ll see his ground game is one to be feared. I haven’t seen them all but I’ve seen enough of his fights to be a believer. BJ Penn as great as he is should win this fantasy match but nothing about it will be easy. The ground transitions would be like none we’ve ever seen.

by Machine on Dec 31, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ANYONES ground game is < BJ’s!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

BJ’s Career Submissions (38% wins by Sub):
4 Rear Naked Choke’s
1 Arm Triangle Choke

Aoki’s Career Submissions (61% wins by Sub):
1 Heel Hook
1 Neck Crank
1 Mounted Gogoplata
4 Armbar’s
1 Gogoplata
1 Flying Triangle Choke
1 Triangle Choke
1 Standing Armlock

Now who’s ground game is more impressive?

by Machine on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

BJ’s, not his fault he’s an all around fighter and has ko’s…should he just sit on the ground and wait too!?

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously, BJ is overrated

by brendan on Dec 31, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Aokis ground game is great and one to be feared like you said, unless you are BJ, then you dont fear anyone’s ground game!

by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Dec 31, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If BJ Penn were any more overrated, his name would be Brock Lesnar. He is nowhere near as good as Anderson Silva but somehow people like to say he is the p4p king. This is the guy that got stopped by Matt Hughes not that long ago.

by Bill Maher on Dec 31, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL and the guy who beat matt hughes when no one could beat matt hughes…in the 1st! good argument though!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Respect brendan, people around here think that BJ is an MMA god who is unstoppable because “he’s taking it serious now.” Seriously GSP is gonna have his most ridiculously impressive performance yet, and show that BJ can’t hang with him anymore.

by NameNotRequired on Dec 31, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

by brendan on Dec 31, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kevin-

You make a good point about Aoki. I’m not gonna jump outta the window and say BJ’s overrated but his offensive BJJ might be a tad under-used. I think he should step it up a notch and use more transitions if his 1st attempt goes sour. He’s done it before but not regularly. It needs to be a constant IMO.

by Machine on Dec 31, 2008 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

bill, everybody knows about the rib injury in that fight i hate when people bring up penn-hughes 2 and try to use it against bj. he schooled hughes the whole fight up till that point.

by AzCombat on Dec 31, 2008 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone who says BJ is overrated knows nothing about MMA.

Honestly, comparing BJ to Brock Lesnar? Pathetic.. Do some research other than looking at BJ’s Fight Finder page on Sherdog.

by R-Dizzle on Dec 31, 2008 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hope gsp beats his ass

by belfort_fan on Jan 1, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hard to watch fights with big gloves. ao reminds me a little of thiago silva. aggressive, a little sloppy, but he overwhelms.

by TapedUpPair on Dec 31, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Wow, I did not expect that! Too bad this event didn’t air in the US

by Mad A on Dec 31, 2008 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Wow Overeem is looking good lately. I wonder if they will still have an MMA match later this year like they planned.

by DDT on Dec 31, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Overeem looks awesome lately.

Side note…that Dana interview when the interviewer says "if and when you sign Fedor, I want $100 every time you refer to Fedor as the ‘best HW in the world’ ", right after Dana bashed Fedor for 5 minutes …Dana was speechless lol….funny stuff.

by introvert on Dec 31, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

that was the best interview in a long time introvert, but what dana said was “I’ll say considered by many to be the best.” Dana stood pretty firm!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i listned to that interview aswell, seems to me that he’s tried hard to sign fedor, he even said he’d pay him good money, better than anyone else can, i don’t think it bothers him alot that he hasn’t been able to sign him but i do think he wants to

by hughes on Dec 31, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

be careful guys, John is on his way to let us know why Fedor hasn’t signed (like he knows the specifics)! Dana tried, Fedor has some crazy ass demands, like bums he trains with getting guaranteed deals! All that said, he’s the #1 HW in the world right now, but I can’t give him #1 P4P status, sorry!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i see you know all the specifics as well

by roy on Dec 31, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

where is that?

by Ground-Game on Dec 31, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yee i watched that interview that line was priceless, dana knew he was right. but damn overeem is looking deadly lately and i thought alvarez would kill aoki. ahh well deadly night of fights.

by Jared on Dec 31, 2008 11:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I feel sorry for the people that actually paid to see this event. What a joke.

by Grembone on Dec 31, 2008 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

considering it wasn’t aired anywhere but Japan, and the fact that they love these sort of shows, I guess everyone was happy. Add to that the amount of interest expressed here today!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

now my sentence makes no sense mania. I didn’t cuss and the word was moron. I’ve seen a lot worse! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ya, it is a matter of taste. Personally I was board. I found my self scrubbing the video to see who won and to see if I might have missed any action. I would have liked to see Mark Hunt. I have always liked watching him fight, but his performance was pretty weak. Then the Manga Masked man with the spandex suit…? Wow! I was happy that Bob at least knocked him out. Seemed almost like a pro wrestling event.

by Grembone on Dec 31, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, “bored” for all the grammar haters.

by Grembone on Dec 31, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the masked guy was an anime character (not that I even know what that means), but wasn’t supposed to be a great fight!

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Really? Looked pretty sweet to me.

by DDT on Dec 31, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would have loved to see it live. Looks like everyone there were loving it too…

At least you know that you never have to have another discussion about it tho, because now there is no reason for you to ever watch it again. It was a joke to you…

by enzo-enormous on Dec 31, 2008 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Too bad Badr didn’t win.. but the size disadvantage and the fact that Badr just fought 3 fights at one night caught up to him!

by RoB on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

It would be nice to have a steroid test on Overeem.. that’s one thing to not like about Japan! they need to have tests on the fighters

by RoB on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Overeem is on a Sweet winning Streak. Say what you want about the CC nut kick but he was giving it to CC before the accident.

by hank on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Grembone, get off Dana’s nuts dude. Sweet action in most fights…lots of KO’s…great event.

by introvert on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

AO = Mass Amounts of HGH and Steroids!

by Jeff R on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I find heel hooks such a cheap way to win.

by raiden on Dec 31, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Everyone I wanted to win did so! Too bad Hansen didn’t get his chance to dismantle JZ..I’m glad all the Overeem haters have no excuse anymore. Hari looked like dog crap. WAR AOKI!!

by Big E on Dec 31, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

aoki is a pussy and his ground game isnt even that good from watching his fight eddie was was stayin away from the ground and when the dude finnally got him down alverez went right to full mount……if it was bj he woullda been killed lmao

by JG on Dec 31, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

and he coulda even sink in the heel hook for awhile if he was as good as you say he is it woulda been done as soon as he got the ankle

by JG on Dec 31, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

like come on BJ is fighting guys like GSP, matt hughes, sean sherk and joe stevenson there is no contest for competition faced. whos the best guy aoki’s fought?

by JG on Dec 31, 2008 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Joachim Hansen, Eddie Alvarez, JZ Calvan..those alone show that he’s fought more highly-talented lights than BJ ever has. Aoki’s BJJ is better than Penn’s (who’s BJJ is the MOST overrated) and he’s not much of a pussy at all. Watch more of his fights, then complain.

by Big E on Dec 31, 2008 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, those guys I mentioned..all in one year. Keep that in mind.

by Big E on Dec 31, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

say whatever you want about their bjj but YOU KNOW who would win if they fought.

by AzCombat on Dec 31, 2008 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Big E-

Thanks for schooling this JG guy. I don’t understand why people try to trash fighters they have no real knowledge about. It really makes no sense.

JG and some others who posted know nothing about Aoki beyond this fight and have no knowledge of Alvarez either. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a surprise that Alvarez was able to mount and they’d also understand why that’s not a bad spot for a guy like Aoki…obviously.

by Machine on Dec 31, 2008 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bob Sapp is back ! hahahahahahahahaha

by Daddy Lupo on Dec 31, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Is he suppose to be Ultra-Man? For those who are younger here is something I grew up with when we only had 4 channels – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPEkjcwTBgM

by TapedUpPair on Dec 31, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I use to love that show!

by Psyqo78®™ on Dec 31, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Overeem needs to go the UFC, he would be really good especially against big guys on the ground

by kol on Dec 31, 2008 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Aoki would sub Penn all you haters need to get off Dana whites dick! If Penn wants to be ranked #1 he needs to leave the UFC fighting cans does not make you #1.

DAMN OVEREEM IS THE MAN!!!!

by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 31, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

then how is fedor still #1 (pre AA fight)?

by kevin on Dec 31, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

O yeah and Manhoef fucken rediculous!

by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 31, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

id like to c alistair in the ufc

by COR on Dec 31, 2008 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Aoki is no match for BJ but he is pretty good.
I like watching him fight. I hope he comes to UFC where he can be tested. ;)

by Natas on Dec 31, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Overeem is def taking roids

by Lester the Pimp on Dec 31, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah and you’re a hater! Keep your ridiculous claims to yourself with absolutely no proof. Overeem has found a home at heavyweight. Give the guy credit for maturing as a fighter he’s still a young guy with the experience he’s got and a frame to get even bigger with his skill he’s going to be a force for a long time!

by Robert on Dec 31, 2008 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs