Doesn’t make a lot of sense, does it?

In my oppinion, WAMA is crap! The only Wama belt with any meaning is the HW belt that Fedor has, and the lightweight belt only if they eventually unify the Wama and DREAM lightweight belts.

I think they should just do away with the whole WAMMA thing and each organization just give out there own titles. If the orgs. then want to see who is best, co promote a match between 2 champs, for example DReam champ vs. Affliction champ!

nice, i hope cro cop can pull out the win!

sweet! only question is if Cro Cop would be motivated enough to accept a new contract with the UFC.

Get off of your knees when BJ is around!

Wow Robert, very insiteful… That sh*t is played out. Get out of the conversation and give your mommy back her laptop. BJ all day!!!

BJ is the most overrated fighter in the world, and save your lame attempts at humor for your lame friends.

bj is no doubt the number 1 lw in the world!

nuff said~

LMAO!!! Congratulations on the worst comment ever. Even haters recognize his talent.

i dont hate bj~

i love both bj and gsp equal.

i just know gsp will win..

Who said he wasn’t talented? Or do you see what you want to see? I said he’s overrated and that’s the truth! If you love him so much fly to Hawaii and when you see him get on your knees and do what comes natural.

oh wait~ u wernt talking to me, were u?

lol~ bnf ur a little feisty today?

i like it!!

Stink, my comment was directed at Robert. He is on another level of hating. I know you are smart enough to recognize BJ’s talent and raking in all MMA.

This is supposed to be about Fields Dynamite on NYE. Leave your man love for BJ to a topic that actually involves BJ.

BJ BJ BJ!!!!

Well Robert since the article talks about the WAMMA Belt which is supposed to be for the for the number 1 in the world I think BJ is very relevant in this conversation.

Well you’d be full of shit also.

I forgot school is out for the holiday’s……

Robert, I didn’t insult you ….so why the insult? I made a very unbiased and factual statement.

Hmm I think mud tossing is making this arguement look petty. The point was BNF that out of the top LWs in the world I’d say there are only 2 in the UFC. Penn and Sherk. Florian could be considered a top 5 LW but I don’t myself consider him to be one. I also see that Gesias, Aoki, Joachim, and Eddie are all on this card and these are guys I would consider to be in the top 10 at least and some of them to be top 5. Point is plain and simple is that the UFC doesn’t have all the top guys and they don’t cross promote which makes it impossible for WAMMA to consider anyone within the UFC promotion for the WAMMA belt. So if WAMMA cannot consider their champions (HW Fedor LW Eddie/Aoki) to be the number one champs because there are viable contenders in the UFC, then why does the UFC get to consider their fighters the world champs when there are viable contenders outside their promotion that they refuse to let their fighters fight? BNF, you should know that I am a huge fan of the UFC and I argue very passionatly when people like Introvert cut on them for no reason. I just saw that your statement looked really strongly against WAMMA and I couldn’t see for what reason. I think the WAMMA belt is a good way to try and force the UFC into cross promoting so that we can fairly say who is the world champion. I also see that if you look at it from the perspective of the number one champ is in the UFC then WAMMA will not be able to make a LW, WW or MW belt until Penn, GSP or Silva retire. Not having a certified LW, WW, or MW would also undercut the WAMMA “prestige”.

And BNF, I don’t consider Gomi a top 5 LW… maybe if he’d start focusing more on MMA and stop ducking harder fights then I would consider him top 5 but he needs to recommit himself to MMA first. Just for your own recognization here is who I consider the top LWs.

1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Eddie Alveraz
4. Shinya Aoki
5. Joachim Hansen/Gesias C./Kenny Florian

number 5 can be switched out for whoever you think should be there but I believe it to be Joachim at this time. Please also note that this list is biased and not fully based on their records.

Its Okay guys. Today I started JAMMA. James Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts. B.J. is the JAMMA lw champ, which has more credibility than the WAMMA belt. (based on Jamma sounding better than wamma.) I am mailing the belt to BJ today, as soon as I cut it out with these dull ass scissors I have here at work. You are all welcome to vote on which fighters should hold the belt in other weight classes. At the end of the day, I will tally the vote and completely disregard the results giving the belt as follows
LW Penn
WW St Pierre
MW A Silva
LHW A Silva (its my belt, why not)
HW Fedor
Super HW Hong Man Choi

dont forget hansen is the dream world champ. how does wamma justify naming alvarez/aoki the champ over him. their current rankings have b.j at #1, how does b.j lose that ranking without actualy fighting. even if bj loses to gsp he is head and shoulders above all lws. wamma is all about naming champs outside the ufc, otherwise bj,gsp and a.silva would already be their champs. wamma is a joke.

BW I had a whole write up that Mania hasn’t posted yet that explains more why WAMMA can’t have a UFC champ. everyone knows WAMMA cannot select a UFC fighter because they do not cross promote. I myself think it would be nice if they could just give Penn the belt but then again that leaves 3 of the top 5 guys who don’t even get a chance to be the number one LW. Why does Penn deserve to be considered the number 1 if he hasn’t found anyone but number 2? Its really not fair no matter what way you look at it, the only thing you need to understand is who is number one in your book. The number one champs will be contested until all of the top 10 guys are all in the same org or are able to fairly compete against one another.

LOL James, I will co-sign that…

b.w., that is exactly what I was waiting for someone to say after my initial question. It actually makes Dream and WAMMA look bad simutaniosly. How that hell do you have the Dream champ not even fighting for the Wamma belt? I don’t understand why any org would give WAMMA the time of day. They should all just have their own champions, period.

Only an idiot will argue that BJ isn’t the best lightweight in the world. Not to many LW’s out there that could even be matched against GSP at 170.

1. LW in the world has to be Eddie Alvarez, yes maybe you detect a little hometown Bias, but Eddie has beaten all top 10 fighters this year:
   Kawajiri
   Hellboy
   Dida is tough as hell
   If He beats Aoki, you cant question his #2 ranking!

the lightweight division is probably the hardest division to rank because most of the top ranked guys dont fight under Zuffa. #1 BJ Penn, #2 Eddie Alvarez, THe rest of the rankings are subject to change but I will name 8 other fighters who I feel should be in the top 10 in no Order:
Sherk
Takanori Gomi
Shinya Aoki
Tatsuya Kawajiri
JZ
Hellboy
Florian
El Nino

John, you will be able to add Diego to that list very soon.

Yeah BNF, I was thinking the same thing, but I cant rank him now without ever fightiong in the division. If he does what I think he will to Joe Daddy…we can throw him right in there at #10…he will take Gilberts spot!

Gegard Mousasi is the best middleweight and deserves the WAMMA title

You guys are in for a rude awakening when this place joins the SB Nation. Your comments will have to change if not I see you both getting banned. Quickly.

But telling me to get on my knees for BJ will keep you around? You just show your true colors right there.

BTW, if me or mexi get banned for what we say, I will never come back to this site anyways. I always read mexi’s comments. The only reason I payed attention to you is because you tried to belittle me. I won’t make that mistake again.

I was kidding. Calm down I said that because if you’ve visited the Bloody Elbow site at all you’d know some moderator is always telling someone their warned for something. Then a threat of getting banned usually follows.

Thanks, Bob. You feedback is noted. Arent you the same 2 comments above that my comments will have to change or I risk getting banned in SB Nation? Who is the child?

Who the F*ck are these newbies?

What do you guys have a nice little group of friends who come here and post?

Bob, you bore me. Isnt there a Yahoo “Ultimate Fighting/I Train UFC” chat room you should be in right now?

Only way we know each other is from this site…and after years…I repeat years of posting we know each other a bit yeah.

Jesus,

No wonder the regulars disappear for the holidays.

Robert, take it easy.

BNF, Mexi and Psyco78 are knowledgeable fans who know their stuff.

robert. this subject has already been brought up on sb nation on BE. wamma is considered a joke by them as well. did you know wamma threatened a lawsuit against a fan on a mma website who made fun of them. that’s what wamma is all about, trying to sue fans for voicing their opinions. people who do nothing but hate on all things zuffa are the ones who will get run off, i can promise you that. have a nice day. :)

b.w. not once did I defend Wamma so I don’t know where that shit is coming from and OJR I made the comment about “friends in a group” because they all have the same opinion and are basically posting the same shit directed at me. So just relax and tell your fellow regulars to refill their Prozac prescriptions.

robert. we’ll take our prozac, you take your midol.

Instead of actually admitting I was never defending Wamma like you were trying to insinuate you couldn’t help but try and think of a come back for my Prozac remark. WEAK!

ROBERTA. i could give a fat rats a$$ on whether you do or do not support wamma. you saying b.j penn is the most overrated fighter in the world is by far the most ignorant and WEAKEST statement ever made on this sight or any other for that matter. sorry about your aunt flo visiting this month.

Robert take that Confrontational BS elsewhere! I come on this site to talk mma…why should I have to scroll down half a page of your 8th grade chat room convo’s?

I’m being confrontational, but no one else is? Go away.

Go back and look at the posts…. You were the one that started hurling insults…ergo, you created the confrontation…. P.S. : John aint going away

b.w. Obviously you don’t read your own posts you blast me saying I’m defendind Wamma which I never did then you turn around when I point out you’re full of shit and say I don’t give a rats ass what you think about Wamma. Well make up your mind this time you respond with a cheap shot and make sure you give a rats ass or not! By the way there’s a long line of people who visit this site who want to get on BJ Penn’s nutz they’re just waiting for you to get off for a second.

he still got paid didnt he? dont believe it was a time frame argument

Apparently the_mexicutioner just wanted to start an argument because I clearly stated don’t say who was paid late who DID NOT get paid. It’s amazing he could read that post and then reply with someone who was paid late. Talk about being totally unreasonable.

Paid late* is what I meant, Bob. Sorry to confuse that puzzled head of yours, Bob. Besides, the majority of people on here probably knew what I was referring to. Being that you are more than likely a Tapout/Xtreme Couture wearing casual fan of the sport, Bob, you probably had no clue what my comment was in reference to, Bob. I don’t think there has been any other time in the history of MMA that anyone has had to wait that long to get a purse. Sorry I wasn’t specific enough, Bob. Get it now, Bob? Sorry, Bob, I haven’t met your standards once again.

You didn’t confuse me at all it’s quite apparent you were confused that’s why you posted some bullshit links to fighters getting paid late when I was quite clear in saying tell people who DIDN’T get paid since that’s what you claimed in your initial post. I also don’t understand why you’d keep repeating BOB what are you in the 5th fucking grade. Like I give a shit if you or anyone else calls me BOB it’s better than being known as the_mexicutioner. Finally I own no Tapout or X-treme Couture apparel, but I have a UFC 51 t-shirt and a Cagefighter hat if that makes you happy.

Bob is laughable in general.