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Renato 'Babalu' Sobral vs Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Affliction video fight talk

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Babalu by sub as long as he can get through Soko’s flurry and attack in the 1st rnd

by McArthur on Dec 18, 2008 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

thats how i see it, i think he needs to be carefull the first round and a half than sub him, but i could see soko knocking him out.

by roy on Dec 18, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

me too, this card has shaped up well. I’ll probably get it, but 3 ppv’s plus on demand movies is gonna push the bill way high! if something better comes up, it won’t take much for me to just watch it on ustream. if they have an HD link (which they usually do), I might watch it there anyways!

by kevin on Dec 18, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

dosn’t matter how, as long as you watch it.

by roy on Dec 18, 2008 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

true that roy, you made my mind up! first time ever ripping an mma event will be this affliction!

by kevin on Dec 18, 2008 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

im on the fence with this one.

by Kentucky's finest on Dec 18, 2008 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

Babalu better train harder for this than he did for Booby. If he comes in shape should be 1st or 2nd round sub.

by BNF on Dec 18, 2008 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

why the hell did the UFC cut these guys? idiotic management

by brendan on Dec 18, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

Babalu held onto a choke, bad lublicity.

Sokodjou is over-rated. Lost 2 fights. One to Luis Cane, bad baaad stamina.

by Adam on Dec 18, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t think he is overrated he is only 24 and i think alot of top guys would have lost to loyota and cane.he deffinetly needs some work though and it was probally good that they let him go for him.he needs to stop calling out guys that have a ton more experience than him.

by roy on Dec 18, 2008 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Soko needs to lean out a little bit. He carries around too much muscle. He can lose some muscle while still being explosive. If he could lose enough muscle mass to be able to drop to 185, I think he will be a force. He’s still pretty young too (24, I think).

by Pat on Dec 18, 2008 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

isn’t he a big 205? i agree with adam, if he doesn’t get a ko in first 2 minutes, he’s done=over rated!
what is lublicity?

by kevin on Dec 18, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

who is over rating him?he came to the ufc with what 3-4 fights, he happened to have 2 big wins in those but people shouldn’t expect so much machida and cane are 2 tough fighters but he does need to drop some muscle mass not to 185 but for better cardio.

by roy on Dec 18, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys…carrying muscle mass does NOT adversely affect cardio. Soku simply needs more cardio work, and can do so while retaining the muscle his frame holds if he trains intelligently. Want an example…..Sherk carries as much muscle pds/per inches height as Soku does…..and is known as a cardio machine.

by CL on Dec 18, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ve only seen power from Sok. Besides that he showed questionable clinch game, sub par ground game, not technical striking, and no use of his judo either. Machida made him look foolish with all kinds of trips. Only his big wins are the reason why people still have high hopes for him. Fighting Babalu is not helping him expand his game regardless of how good a matchup it is.

by NameNotRequired on Dec 18, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

“carrying muscle mass does NOT adversely affect cardio”

Actually, it does. Muscles need oxygen, and the more muscle you have, the more oxygen needs to be pumped throughout your body. Sherk is an exception, not the rule. Endurance athletes in general (there’s probably exceptions) have very little muscle mass. Look at marathon runner, triathletes, etc. MMA athletes are bigger b/c you need a balance b/w endurance and short-burst performance. Soko is a little too big (in terms of muscle composition) IMO. He has great short bursts, but not nearly enough cardio.

by Pat on Dec 18, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

thats right pat

by roy on Dec 18, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Word. I used to walk around at 210-215. Carrying lots of ‘bulky’ muscle, but I also had endurance, it’s VERY tough to balance. Two-a-days EVERYDAY.
Which is why so many guys turn to supplements/ steroids.
I stopped lifting weights/ power lifting and now carry ‘lean muscle’ and have even more increased stamina.
So my body now looks like- a little more muscular Spider Silva’s vs. before I looked like Soko, but 210 lbs.

by Ground-Game on Dec 18, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

babalu also got thrashed by bitch-tits lambert, got arrested for assault at some casino in fla, i believe, and bragged about holding the choke too long. it was a series of things that got him the boot. plus he got owned by chuck twice. he doesn’t seem capable of being the ufc champ ever anymore. he’s still a big name and fits right in with strikeforce/Affliction.

by b.w. on Dec 18, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Name not required, Soko had his fair share of trips in there with Machida, he did a nice little Judo trip to take Machida down once, even though it didn’t amount to anything, he held his own with the clinch/stand up grappling, the difference is what they both did once they got to the ground. I say Soko beats Babalu. He had 2 rough fights and HAS to know by now what he needs to work on. I think he’ll come in prepared like never before.

by The Anomaly on Dec 18, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you’re right Anomaly. Babalu only needs one good TD because once on the ground he plays a much tighter BJJ game than Machida. Sok has good enough defensive wrestling to stuff babalu’s usually reckless shots. But IMO Babalu’s experience will allow him to get around his brute strength. Sok still hasn’t had the time to adapt his judo for MMA.

by NameNotRequired on Dec 18, 2008 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Babalu’s charisma just goes right through the screen!

by RoB on Dec 18, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

babalu by sub then he calls out tito

by Horndog on Dec 18, 2008 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

thats how I see it too…Tito goes into the ring, words are exchanged, Affliction lives for a 3rd card

by McArthur on Dec 18, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

nope! I’m not doubting that happens, and I think Babalu/Tito is a great match up, but affliction s done after this card! I just don’t see what’s next for them? they would have to wait 3 months so their stable of fighters (which is regurgitated) are ready to fight, so there next show would be around the time of UFC100…yeah right!

by kevin on Dec 18, 2008 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

there is a good video of tom ansering alot of questions i hope mania puts it up. sounds like they will be around for another show at least.

by roy on Dec 18, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

good interview roy, but anyone can say anything! I’ll believe it when I see it.

by kevin on Dec 18, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Genius guys Hope that comes true

by sp00ner1234 on Dec 18, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

babalu by tko ground and pound….but i think he’s gonna have to get beat up for a round before he can take sokoju down to the ground and just to think this could be a ufc fight ..iyiyiy

by wm133 on Dec 18, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Cant make my mind up, either guy could win.

by James on Dec 18, 2008 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Fighthype making their movies with the aid of a custom delorean and a mad scientist? These things look like they were filmed on low budget cameras 15 years ago.

by clayton on Dec 18, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

i thought soko could take cane but i knew cane had an equal chance with striking. babalu looked terrible against southworth. that being said i no babalu wont outstrike soko but soko will probably gas fast so its either soko by knockout within the first round of babalu by submission. ill take soko

by Jared on Dec 18, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Great matchup. Can’t wait.

by Ground-Game on Dec 18, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

I dont see alot of Sokou love. He is young and has a ton of speed and power. Plenty of time to develop. I like Babalu, but I have a feeling that Sokou is gonna catch him with a nasty knockout. Watch and see

by See What Had Happend Was !!!! on Dec 19, 2008 1:59 AM EST reply actions  

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