The Ultimate Fighter 8 Finale recap and final thoughts

I wouldn't say it was a night of underdogs at The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 8 Live Finale, but I'm pretty sure I saw Simon Bar Sinister handing out bottles of Pure Distilled Shrinking Water.
The TUF 8 Finale was an entertaining event, mostly because things (for the most part) didn't always go as expected. In one of the night's many surprises, Junie Browning opened the show (and set the tone) with a stellar performance against Dave Kaplan that saw the self-proclaimed bad boy of TUF transition from wasted talent to serious contender.
I understand that Dave Kaplan is not a ranked lightweight, but Browning's impeccable display of striking, grappling and yes, even conditioning made me wonder if I could have possibly been watching the same fighter who nearly got himself booted from the SpikeTV reality show for being a Grade A imbecile.
It appears that Junie Browning is indeed for real. I guess my only question now is: What the heck took so long? Had Browning gone through the season with the same intensity that he displayed last night, he may very well have been fighting in the last bout on the card instead of the first.
Speaking of first and last, hopefully this is the first and last time we'll see the likes of Jules Bruchez in the UFC. I don't think there's one negative thing to say about his character or personality, but inside the cage he looks lost and underwhelming.
Still, I'll take ten "Family" Jules before I take one Shane Primm. Normally guys flop to the canvas and cling to an opponent's leg after they get rocked. Primm seemed to be using that strategy as his primary method of offense.
It was definitely offensive.
I guess my biggest complaint is that guys like Primm can get themselves hurt by mailing it in. He fought rather timidly and didn't look like he was in very good shape. I'll never fault a guy for losing but it's hard to get excited about a fight when it's obvious that one of the combatants doesn't want to be there.
Kevin Burns probably didn't want to be there when he woke up from the nasty KO he received at the feet of Anthony Johnson. In what could have been Fight of the Night (if not for Dana's obsession with Junie Browning), Burns ate a flush high kick in the third round that will immediately join Cro Cop-Gonzaga and Salmon-Evans in the UFC's head kick hall of fame.
If they really want to spice up the highlight reel, the production booth should also add some of the footage from the post-kick celebration by Johnson. It could be the worst display of the worm since Scotty Too Hotty pinned Dean Malenko for the WWF Light Heavyweight Championship.
And while we're on the topic of the WWF, did anyone else laugh at Vinny Magalhaes when he got rocked by Ryan Bader and hit the floor like Sean Michaels over-selling a chair shot?
Congratulations to Bader for the victory. I was convinced he was getting subbed but he played it smart and kept it standing long enough for Mags to make a mistake.
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on the future of Ryan Bader. Yes he won the TUF title, but I'm a firm believer that you don't know what a guy is made of until he's faced with adversity. No one from Season 8 really put him to the test and right now all I know is that he's a great wrestler and a decent striker.
In a division that employs guys like Shogun, Rampage, Wanderlei Silva and even the melting Iceman, decent just isn't going to cut it in today's UFC.
Just ask Jason MacDonald.
J-Mac is a decent striker and a very good grappler, but the increasingly fragile Canadian will be spending so much time at the middleweight gate after his loss to Gouveia he could probably qualify for a pension by the next pay-per-view.
Gouveia dropped him in the first and showed a perfect example of how to finish a grounded opponent, but I'm going light on the praise since he failed to make weight for the bout.
He has since apologized and wants to continue to compete at middleweight, going so far as to promise that missing weight 'will never happen again.'
Time will tell.
Speaking of time, how badly did Phillipe "Movin' On" Nover want an extra minute in the third round against F. Rye Aine in the lightweight finals?
Like so often, wrestling was the difference. Escudero came out and I honestly expected him to fight 'not to lose.' Boy was I was wrong (as usual). Efrain was aggressive and intelligent. He pushed the pace and used his formidable wrestling skills not just to take Nover down and keep him grounded, but to set up different angles and land big shots.
Nover was visibly frustrated and couldn't get much going until the final thirty seconds of the fight.
Duckman had everyone's attention during the season, but Escudero just flat outworked and outclassed him when it counted. It was a special moment to see him win knowing how much he wanted this to honor his late father.
I'm not too worried about Nover. He's already proven that he can fight, now he just needs to align himself with an elite camp and get to work on his wrestling.
As for the new lightweight champ, it's going to be a long road ahead. There is no shortage of talent in the UFC 155lb division but he's young, gifted and ready to accept a rematch with Junie.
You heard it here first.
Now that we've sorted our TUF chips, there still remains some unfinished business between coaches Frank Mir and Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueira, who are set to do battle at UFC 92: "The Ultimate 2008″ from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on December 27.
This one's for jiu-jitsu bragging rights, as well as the chance to face Brock Lesnar to finally name an undisputed heavyweight champion.
Not to mention it's on a card that also features Forrest Griffin vs. Rashad Evans and Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva.
Don't even think about missing it.
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Well, I missed on both winners, but overall a pretty decent night of fights!
Bader hits hard (even though it was (unintentionally) back of head!
Efrain looked great! He utilized his wrestling, and passed the recently donned “black belt” with zero problems! Didn’t lay and pray and was very active
Krystoph looked like crap again! yes, he won, my 6 year old could have looked good against his opponent!
Nover isn’t the next Silva/GSP
Now, I was the biggest Junie hater, but he looked great! His stand up was crisp, his ground game was good and his attitude wasn’t bad at all! I’m not yet a fan, but the improvement in 6 months was very evident!
I was pleased with this free event!
by kevin on Dec 14, 2008 5:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
and it was partially blocked…thats just embarassing on vinny’s part
by Dayvet on Dec 14, 2008 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
vinny is a douchebag. seeing him flop around on the canvas like an idiot made my night. i just wish nog would have come into the ring after and pulled his head off.
by Hardcase on Dec 14, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of flopping around on the canvas like an idiot, johnson looked pretty good
by Brandon on Dec 14, 2008 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao. but seriously, what was Vinicious doing over selling that punch?! He was barely CLIPPED by it! It didn’t even land flush and first he goes down sorta lightly, then he crumples to the ground in the fetal position?! WTF? What a p*ssy!
by Anthony on Dec 14, 2008 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More like power > pretty face
by NameNotRequired on Dec 14, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHA, um. . . ya that too. Nover woulda done a ton better without the Armani Glasses and fancy smile. lol.
by haglnuts on Dec 14, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
last night maybe, but bjj black belt > wrestler 99% of the time.
by newkoba on Dec 14, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree with newkoba. Look at guys like Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes. Wrestling > BJJ.
Unless you’re new to the game like Lesnar, then you can make a rookie mistake and lose to Mir. But once the wreslers have some MMA experience, they are better than BJJ guys for several reasons. They have much better cardio. Generally, they are stronger and also they can learn submission defense to counter whatever the BJJ guy is gonna do.
by ProKev on Dec 14, 2008 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lets not forget those guys actually have quite a bit of BJJ as well that you mentioned, Matt Hughes is actually a BJJ blackbelt. You gotta have both to be good but if you just one one with none of the other Id take the BJJ black belt but if you have no wrestling or standup to go with you bjj you gonna get beat by a wrestler with a decent standup as we saw last night. Or you could just be like Nogeria and be able to take a beating for 15 minutes and have really good bjj and you’ll be okay.
by GSP4Prez on Dec 15, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Krystoph was the biggest disappointment of the season IMO. He was way too cocky and arrogant when you consider the fact that he was easily defeated by a guy that was later knocked out by a wrestler.
by Spider Rulz on Dec 15, 2008 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see a newly-signed Roger Huerta fight Junie.
by Andy on Dec 14, 2008 7:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
lets not throw junie to the wolves just yet. let him fight effrain next.
by Nokimono on Dec 14, 2008 8:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Effrain already beat him. Let’s wait awhile before a rematch. Let him fight Nover instead.
by Jase on Dec 14, 2008 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think thats probably a good idea. I hated Junie on the show but I must admit he looked pretty good last night obviously xtreme couture can do wonders for your game. I would almost say I don’t mind him now if he didnt come in with Eminem playing in the background.
by subwayy2sallyy on Dec 14, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Junie improved his striking, but I think anyone would feel compelled to kick the ass of anyone who entered to the GAY song that Kaplan came in with. Despite that Kaplan made him work for it. Junie still has cardio problems. Definitely not fight of the night. I give that to the main event. That’s the fight that I liked the best.
by MrFyer on Dec 14, 2008 9:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really thought that the mani event was a way more entertaining fight than the Junie-Kaplan fight. Dana reAly does seem to have an obsession about Junie.
by Mattchupichu on Dec 14, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Michaels is a pornstar. Shawn Michaels is the wrestler. ;)
by Stefan Manojlovic on Dec 14, 2008 9:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The fact that you know the difference is nothing short of disturbing.
by PW on Dec 14, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was genuinely surprised how Efrain destroyed Nover. I guess the pressure of living up to the next “Spider” was to much for fainting Phillipe! As far as “Master” Bader, he did exactly what he had to do to win…kept it standing. I think if it went to the ground, his ground and pound wouldn’t have been good enough to keep from getting submitted. Junie looked like a completely different fighter, but still a little too cocky for the caliber of opponents he’s faced thus far. The winner of “the singing bee”? My 13yr old could have submitted him!!Good night of fights though..
by KJ Mack on Dec 14, 2008 9:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say congrats to the the two Arizona boys, seeing is how I grew up in Tempe, and now live just outside it. I really expected Phillipe to take it, but, he never got the chance to throw leather. Efrain did an awsome job of ducking the punch, and shooting. I have to say that I thought when Mir talked about his bout with Nog gave me goose bumps. To hear a fighter describe a fight like that, and what it means to him you can help but pull for him. ( I think NOG wins ) But win lose or draw ill always respect Mir after that
by LOKIE on Dec 14, 2008 10:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A Junie/Efrain rematch would work somewhere down the line, (kind of like Diego/Koscheck 2) but not now.
And I agree that Nover needs to join an elite camp. The raw talent is there, he just needs to train with better guys and put it all together. Working on his wrestling should be his number one priority right now.
by R-Dizzle on Dec 14, 2008 10:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i agree! i think the best camp for Nover would be AKA. training with fitch and koscheck would improve his wrestling greatly, well u can only go up from zero! does anyone else thing nover needs a new nickname… maybe Phillipe “Super” Nover, like a supernova… nevermind lol!
by Xander the Great on Dec 14, 2008 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
every MMA fighter on the planet should go to Xtreme Couture.
by Hardcase on Dec 14, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay I see your point, but then NOBODY would ever fight eachother! I’m sick of these guys saying that they can’t fight so and so because back in the day they trained together. Fight the fight that makes sense. period.
by haglnuts on Dec 14, 2008 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kaplan looked absolutely terrible.Did anybody see them telegraphed anklelocks.
by Flying Knee on Dec 14, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I lost half my money on the to main events.
by Mattchupichu on Dec 14, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one that laughed at what Krzysztof did after his win with his hands when being interviewed by Rogan?! I’m asuming it’s a Talledega Nights the Ballad of Ricky Bobby staring Will Farrell reference. During an interview Ricky Bobby kept raising his hands because he said “I’m not sure what to do with my hands”. Me and my wife noticed it right away. I’m guessing Krzysztof told a friend he’d do it. I can be wrong but it looked like a movie reference to me.
by Griffinfan05 on Dec 14, 2008 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I noticed his ricky bobby impersonation, but it seemed to go right over joe rogan’s head, if anyone should have got it , it should have ben rogan.
by sog on Dec 14, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also laughed at Vinny’s dive, but even more at Johnsons post-fight “celebration”. Only i thought it looked more like a wild monkey style then a worm :D
by Lester the Pimp on Dec 14, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not so good of a night for the favorites, the next “gsp or anderson silvia” lol mr.faint, guys wrestling is horrible, to be compared to gsp one of the best wrestlers in mma is laughable.
by nathan on Dec 14, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What was the name of that song that Kaplan came out to? Does anyone know?
by Chandler, Steve on Dec 14, 2008 7:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kaplan’s song is “Tenderness, where is it”, I think by the English Beat or something like that.
by JL on Dec 15, 2008 7:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the band is General Public, formed by a couple former members of English Beat.
by JL on Dec 15, 2008 7:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Kaplan’s walk out music, dance, shades, and ice….that was awesome!!!!
by lesnarsbabymamma on Dec 14, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“Tenderness” by General Public….I’m trying to find a clip on youtube that has Kaplan’s Singing Bee video….I am interested in seeing that….
by lesnarsbabymamma on Dec 14, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by JL on Dec 15, 2008 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey guys just want to start off by saying i didnt watch any of the series just the final so just going on that!junies standup and scrambling looked crisp but kaplan looked terrible.was it octagon nerves?was he good on the show?i havnt trained for 8 months and would still back myself to ko him!!lked rumbles ko kick but i thought the fight was even going into that round still see him as a ww gatekeeper and with lytle fighting davis would put him on the london card against paul taylor.thats got fotn written all over it.gouveia looked impressive.he stopped mcdonald quicker than maia and franklin so if he sorts his weight out will be a top contender.the other tuf fights were mismatches imo.baders power looks awesome and getting clipped on the top of head/ear takes all your equilibrium away and as for escudero he looked good but cant see him troubling the upper echelon of the lw division for quite a while yet.
by scott on Dec 15, 2008 3:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hey does anyone kno the 2 opening songs for both fighters if u find out send me a message on msn moore_1520@hotmail.com
by Taylor m on Dec 20, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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