Oscar De La Hoya vs Manny Pacquiao open thread and discussion
by MMAmania.com on Dec 6, 2008 7:31 PM EST
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Hey, it's not mixed martial arts but it was a great fight. And we know there are a ton of readers here interested in Saturday's highly publicized showdown.
So here's a thread for those interested to discuss all the action and provide their thoughts and reactions to Manny Pacquiao's thrilling TKO victory over Oscar De La Hoya last night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
In case you were too wrapped up in college football or one of the many brilliant articles here on MMAmania, the Filipino phenom battered De La Hoya to a TKO victory when the not-so-golden boy couldn't answer the bell for the ninth round.
Pacquiano (48-3-2) looked masterful despite being out of his weight class and De La Hoya (39-6) looked like a man who may finally be past his prime.
From De La Hoya to former trainer Freddie Roach after the fight:
"Freddie, you're right. I just don't have it anymore."
Hopefully you enjoyed the action ... who knows these days when the next big boxing match will roll around.
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Oscar De La Hoya is a bit of a joke these days as a fighter. But god damn, what a promoter. I want 30 mil for 45 minutes work.
by Mikey Gilz on Dec 6, 2008 7:36 PM EST reply actions
Pacquiao just handed De La Hoya his ass. Wasnt even close.
by c-war on Dec 7, 2008 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. By a lightyear. Pacman really has improved drastically. Hope Mayweather comes out of retirement!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
THIS WAS A LOCK 4 GAMBLERS!!!!1
DeLa-Joto-Ya is a finished fighter, he wants a to wear a suit more than shorts!
manny was to quick for his old eyes to see.
just like tito he needs the golden boy not business boy
not the bussiness boy the huntington beach bad boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F#$%^ de la f@Gott
by mikeybear on Dec 7, 2008 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
great night of boxing …. i started off by watching froch v pascal free of charge going at it for 12 rounds …. what a fight….. that fight was over in england
then i watched this it was a very good night of boxing
hatton v manny????
war hatton
froch v calzaghe????
by ufcaddict on Dec 7, 2008 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
hatton vs. manny would be sick. Can you imagine the crowd?? ppl love pac man but Hattons fans with the band and suff might be my favorite thing in all of sports right now. It’s like a college basketball game with the chants and stuff. I think that may be a fight i would actually pay for.
by Crowls on Dec 7, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I missed the fight! Obviously Pac Man destroyed Oscar since Oscar basically quit….but just how dominant did Pac man look? Did he dominate Oscar on the same level that B-hop dominated Pavlik?
by john on Dec 7, 2008 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
much more dominating than B-Hop schooled pavlik. Pacman is in another level right now.
Pacman vs Hatton will do. But, Pacman vs Floyd is gonna be SICK. I’ll pay 100bucks to see that fight.
by titoortizfan on Dec 7, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I want Pacman vs. Floyd as well. Or the winner of Pacman Fatton fights Floyd. So probably Pacman Floyd.
by RobH86 on Dec 7, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, right! pacman is on another plane right now. He’s head and shoulders above everyone else. give him Mayweather. Hatton is gonna go down!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
why mayweather. antybody interested in seeing manny vs cotto?
by james on Dec 7, 2008 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
True true.
Think about Oscar then think about Rampage/Silva/Forrest/GSP/BJ/Fedor
we would all rather watch these guys go at it, yet De La Hoya has figured out a way to earn not 10 times what they earn per fight, he earns 100 times what they get paid!
Or so.
Lets say those guys get about $300,000 for a fight, De La can easily get $30,000,000.
Multiply that 100 by the 3-4 fights a guy can do in MMA per year, and you get about 30 years of fighting in MMA (as a headliner) to equal one big De La Hoya payout.
WOW.
by Ben on Dec 6, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but 1. he’s the promoter and 2. they will get over 2 million ppv’s, and he doesn’t get just 1 or 2 cents on the dollar like mma "stars, and lastly, boxing (unfortunately it’s a fact) has been around for ever and is way bigger than mma…for now!
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
oscar pays himself, thats how smart he is. once he retires there wont be as big a difference betwen top mma fighters and top boxers. i actually think top mma fighters will make more than top boxers in the next 5 years.
by b.w. on Dec 6, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Thats right b.w. Remember when Joe Rogan said “the stars that are in boxing now are going to be the only ones” “there will be no new stars” something like that? It was so true! After Oscar is gone there will be no other!
by JV on Dec 6, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe he quit like that. Jon Fitch could have quit in the third round of the GSP fight if the rules were (End the fight when you think you’re gonna lose). Oscar never had any heart and he still doesn’t.
It’s pretty sad when heartless money grubbers like him and Mayweather are the face of the sport.
by Dom on Dec 7, 2008 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
Um JV…I think you may have forgot about the fan favourite that Oscar was fighting last night. Oscar’s out…Manny’s in.
Boxing is here forever you haters…..live with it. Like Joe Rogan is some sort of defining authority on when, where and how boxing is going to die lol. He’s just Dana’s parrot, and gets paid to trash boxing like Dana does.
Boxing will be here forever.
by introvert on Dec 7, 2008 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
introvert, Manny as the fan favorite? Ok, if thats what you believe.
1: where in my comment does it say boxing is gone?
2: where in my comment am I saying Rogan is a "defining authority?
3: what the f*ck does Dana have to do with anything?
There are no new stars in boxing! Theres no up and comer that everybody is talking about! Manny is definintely the P4P best in boxing right now! But will never sell or carry boxing the way Oscar did! Dude all you do is talk sh*t! Go get laid or drink some beers! Do something to make your hate filled life alittle happier!!!
by JV on Dec 7, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Dana is a fan of boxing, but boxing is dying. It’s a reality. Manny’s a beast, but where are the other draws? Oscar was THEE biggest draw and he was the one that made stars out of other guys. Mayweather wasn’t as big as he is until the Oscar fight. Oscar’s done, Mayweather’s retired. Who other than Manny is going to carry the sport?
Obviously boxing will be here forever, but it’s not even close to what it once was. If you deny that, you are delusional.
by R-Dizzle on Dec 7, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Man, I miss the Mike Tyson days…
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Manny was the “fan” favourite, or did you not here the 75% Filipino crowd cheering him on and chanting his name?
Save it, JV…you are one of the leaders of the “Dana and Rogan nutthugging club”….it’s pretty sad.
…and, I just got laid…and I don’t drink…and btw, it’s “beer” not “beers”…like moose or geese…not mooses and geeses.
by introvert on Dec 7, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
No, I did not “here” the 75% Filipino crowd. God, you’re such a failure…
It’s not even fun to “debate” you, because you bring nothing new to the table. Durrrrh, you’re all Dana nuthuggers, durrrrrh. Get back to me when you have an educated argument.
by R-Dizzle on Dec 7, 2008 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ok Introvert, I’ll play your game!
Save it, introvert…you are one of the leaders of the “Atencio and Trump nutthugging club”….it’s pretty sad.
And your right R-Dizzle! Out of the 3 questions I posted he responded to none! I shouldnt have wasted my time I guess!
by JV on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO…“R-Dizzle”. Since you’re “debating” the 75%, then I guess you watched the fight? Funny how people here “hate boxing”, but yet seem to feel they are so educated about it…
Keep your rumours, speculation, and guesses…one boxing match just kicked the shit out of anything the UFC has ever done…in one night.
by introvert on Dec 7, 2008 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
No, I watched the fight. Notice the quotations around the word here? Yea, that’s because you used the word in the wrong context. I didn’t “HERE” anything. Get it? Or are you still too dense??
One night boxing match with De La Hoya. Name another event that didn’t include Oscar or Mayweather that outdrew the UFC. There is NO OTHER BOXER THAT CAN CONSISTENTLY OUTDRAW THE UFC UNLESS THEIR NAMES ARE FLOYD MAYWEATHER (RETIRED) OR OSCAR DE LA HOYA (SOON TO BE RETIRED)
The Calzaghe/Jones fight did 190,000 buys. That was HBO’s last big event. They even had the 24/7 series for that fight. What do you have to say to that?? They were expecting 300,000 buys and couldn’t even come close to that number!!
Actually provide an intelligent response, please.
by R-Dizzle on Dec 8, 2008 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
So 30 years in MMA
or
6 months of boxing.
MMA, the poor man’s sport.
by Ben on Dec 6, 2008 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
It took boxing over 100 years to get where it is now. MMA is an infant. Give it time.
by MC on Dec 7, 2008 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
I watched most of the fight thinking that most MMA cards are deeper and more entertaining. The undercard was a joke.
by BobC on Dec 7, 2008 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
well everyones intitled to there own opinion, but mayweather CLEARLY won that fight
by BMO on Dec 6, 2008 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Not often is an opinion wrong…… But Mayweather dominated De La Hoya.
by Mikey Gilz on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
got pacman, but won’t be watching. got a mexican cat I work with owes me 400, so I let him take oscar, what he didn’t know was I wanted manny any ways.
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Quick hands beat old man everytime. Straight up beatdown, very embarrasing.
by NameNotRequired on Dec 7, 2008 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
why mania?? comments please!
I got pac man guys, got 100 on it with a mexican guy at work that owes me money!
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Good job Kev. That’s sure money right there. NEver bet against th Pacman!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/de-la-hoya-vs-pacquiao—-dec.-6%2C-2008-9pm-et
perfect stream of fight guys.
told you guys, oscar sucks!
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
as you guys know, I’m not a big boxing fan, that said, that was en enjoyable fight to watch.
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
no problem buddy, I like it because there’s no downloads! manny beat the piss out of him! still not a big boxing fan!
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Did I accidentally log onto boxingmania.com?
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Dec 7, 2008 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
hey you stupid queer, at it’s 1 fucking article for one of the biggest boxing fights of the year. If you’re too stupid to read you would have read that it’s not mma
by Johnny on Dec 7, 2008 4:15 AM EST up reply actions
Wow just a joke you dickhead… way to be make a complete ass out of yourself
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Dec 7, 2008 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
to me de la hoya is a great fighter and paquiao too. but the thing that bothers me and i think hurts de la hoya is" ahh im just too old ohh i just dont have it anymore ohh i have to be smart etc etc…." to me that’s backing down on a fight that is losing the fight on the beginning.i base this on numeroues examples, and on his intervies look at fedor mma fights dude the guy doesnt flinch or is scared of his oponent he doesnt even talks trash bout anybody look at hopkins fights the guy talks trash but he backs it up.de la hoya can kick ass but if he has that same mentality dude he better go runnin home to his momma or be a man and step up on a fight. last night was a great fight but the outcome i think some people may have foreseeing it.
by Chui on Dec 7, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Manny completely destroyed de la hoya, but you have to give credit to the man, not only was he a brilliant boxer in his day, what he has done for boxing and his charity work is amazing, at least he didnt duck out when a good fighter came looking for him. Mayweather should take on cotto/margarito/pacquiao then retire. Stop bitching about de la hoya. What a legend he was. In his day against pacquiao would have been brilliant, it would have gone all the way.
by James on Dec 8, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
hes gonna whoop up on Oscar – there fixed it for you, no need to thank me:)
by NameNotRequired on Dec 6, 2008 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
This is the first boxing fight I have been remotely interested in since Tyson lol.
by halljam2 on Dec 6, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions
Yeah man, I miss the Tyson days!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO!!!!! So I’m flippin through the channels right, and I get to nickelodeon and I see kimbos ugly ass!!!!! The best part is that he’s in an orange jumpsuit, in prison!!! Right where he belongs!!! (and no, I wasn’t watching, I was flippin through!!!)
by allamerican on Dec 6, 2008 7:39 PM EST reply actions
wow, a young guy on a sat night watching nickalodean…just bustin your balls buddy!
by kevin on Dec 6, 2008 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
I knew it would be you kevin! It was there for the taking, that’s why I added the defensive “I was flippin” it woulda been too easy! I’m still without Internet. Atleast I can keep up with what’s going on from my cellphone, otherwise I don’t know what I’d do?!
by allamerican on Dec 7, 2008 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Prety nice prediction. but it came out round 8. Still pretty close though because it was by TKO…
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t see that happening. Speed kills and Pacquiao can keep quick throughout the fight especially without having to cut to make weight. Manny by UD.
by Enniskillen on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
should be a good one. oscar ko-8th
by blah. anything can/and will happen in MMA on Dec 6, 2008 7:49 PM EST reply actions
If you dont want to pay for it, it’s going to stream on channelsurfing.net
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 8:00 PM EST reply actions
I LOVE ON HBO HOW HE MADE ALL THAT NOISE PUNCHING, LOL
HE SOUNDS LIKE A BITCH!
ID LET HIM PUNCH BE 50 TIMES STRAIGHT IN MY FACE AND THEN ID LAUGH AND FART AND THEN WATCH HIM DROP.
by Mike tyson on Dec 6, 2008 8:07 PM EST reply actions
Wow….you’re tough.
Did I just read this?
Seriously?
by introvert on Dec 7, 2008 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
what weight are these behemoths gonna get it on at? WAR PACQUIAO!! just because the word pac is in his name….kinda like paC-E aka paki aka durka durka
GEORGE BUSH RULES!
by turd sandwich on Dec 6, 2008 8:08 PM EST reply actions
George Bush would be SOOOO proud to know his biggest supporter is named “turd sandwich.”
by chefdaddy on Dec 7, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
De La Hoya looks completely emaciated in the wiehg in photos. I wonder how much the weight cutting will hurt him.
by Clayton on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PM EST reply actions
2 PUNY GUYS FIGHTING….YAWN, WAKE ME UP AT THE DECISIOIN
by Mike tyson on Dec 6, 2008 8:13 PM EST reply actions
Wake up Tyson, it’s all over!!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
i love the fact that this is on MMAMANIA… good stuff guys…. i like the fightworld in general and i am ordering the fight with some of my friends. I go for Oscar because i am hoping he can beat the freight train in manny because he has demolished ton of my hispanic fighters so i go for de la hoya for this reason alone. I do like manny and im sure he is going to bring it to Oscar.. so we shall see…. all i know for sure is manny is not mayweather and punches will be thrown
by TexasBOY on Dec 6, 2008 8:15 PM EST reply actions
Pacman’s gonna put the smackdown on Pretty boy…
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
If Oscar loses, I will eat a balut egg.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 8:18 PM EST reply actions
so Oscar loses before the 9th round… how about a balut egg for you my friend? eheheh
by Batmania on Dec 7, 2008 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I hope you post a video of you eating the egg, I’m sure it’ll be entertaining
by GregC on Dec 7, 2008 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
Dude, never….never….ever…bet on anything that you are not prepared to lose. Let me know how the almost born duck egg tastes? lol. Actually, they are supposed to be incredible (hey guys….duck…and duck fat normally equals tasty, yummy goodness) but look simply god awful.
by chefdaddy on Dec 7, 2008 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
you ain’t hardcore man! haha! I could eat any of your stuff, and you’re wincing at balot? And you’re supposed to be a hardcore MMA fan. Wow, hehe! Just playin’ mexi, peace!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Pac won’t knock Oscar out. Pac needs to last until the later rounds and then turn it on. Kinda hard to bob and weave that huge head especially since Oscar has a SIGNIFICANT reach advantage.
by kukuxumusu on Dec 6, 2008 8:21 PM EST reply actions
anyone know how to stream it…. bmsn at comcast dot net…..
by wand1 on Dec 6, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply actions
Hatton will demolish the winner all the same………hopefully
There’s only one Ricky Hatton, there’s only one Ricky Hatton
by IrishKev on Dec 6, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions
MMA fighters not even in 10 years will earn that much money merely for the fact that Dana White (the guy who we all love and respect) doesnt seem to give a S**T about the fighters. he cares about his brand and not its employess. He’s been gettin rid of fighters like they’re nothing. He almost got rid of Fitch and Koscheck, why? because they stepped up and said something or went against the UFC. when these guys retire they’re not gonna have any insurance plans or benefits…the UFC is gonna make money, but the fighters dont see any of it. The main event guys make close to a mil but look at the other fighters some of them sometime make 12,000 a fight. I hope they will get a lot of money in range of de la hoya but i dont think they will as long as dana cares more about the UFC than he does about its fighters.
by Cameleon on Dec 6, 2008 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Sorry for all oscar de la hoya’s but your boy is dead. Manny will whoop his ass. I promise you.
by L.A. on Dec 6, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions
am so amped about this fight
how will PAC knock out Oscar? Pac is not heavy enough IMO
I see PAC on points or Oscar via late TKO
by savman on Dec 6, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions
what is the complete undercard mmamania or guys here?
and why does every boxoing ppc neveer release the undercard ( complete) until the last minute???
i know there are two other fights before this one both for titles but they say there sould be a few more ??
by GORANDY on Dec 6, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions
de la hoya is the man i wont ever bet against a guy whos fought the absolute best ever whenever
by randy murders on Dec 6, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions
MY WIFE IS PHILIPENO SO MANNY MANNY MANNY he EQUA:S MORE RICE FOR THE PEOPLE
by GORANDY on Dec 6, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply actions
He’s a “GOD” back home in the P.I. i got mad family.. btw its spelled FILIPINO… but she would be considered FILIPINA… =)
by kristine on Dec 7, 2008 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
delahoya w hand manny poo-nanny his 1st tko in the 5th….
by gonzo101 on Dec 6, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions
Yee of little knowledge. Manny has been knocked out twice in his career. That was very early in his career. Manny by UD. 116-112, 116-112, 115-113.
by FlyByKnight on Dec 6, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
why the scorecard? thats not even predictin who will win what rounds jus what you think individual judges will score it, i guess ur tryin to sound like u know exactly what ur talkin about
by Joe on Dec 6, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Who was talking about boxing before this one? No one.
Who will be talking about boxing after this one? No one.
It’s an interesting fight but I’m not sure I have the patience to stick with them until round seven or ten or… whatever.
Once the Golden Boy really retires I want to see when we’ll see a boxing match title making it to mmamania.com.
by D on Dec 6, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions
Manny is 1.5lbs heavier than Oscar tonight. Craziness!
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions
Howard Lederer sounds like arummy drunk everytime he talks.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions
I hardly had the patience to listen to his dry ass monologues.
by DSmith on Dec 7, 2008 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
ALL THE YELLING WHEN HE PUNCHES IS SO PATHETIC! LOL
by Mike on Dec 6, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions
manny is a great fighter but he is too small and coming up too much in weight for this fight. de la hoya wins w/his size advantage.
by brian on Dec 6, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions
So much bullshit between fights. Boxing definitley is a step down.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions
Keisha Cole needs to brush that shit out.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions
that’s gotta be the worst national anthem I’ve ever heard.
by GSPRush on Dec 6, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions
Which nat.anthem? The black gal’s rendition?
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t wait till we see MMA fighters with the hand speed of a fighter like Pacman. He would hit GSP 30 times before he could raise a leg.
by tk on Dec 6, 2008 11:03 PM EST reply actions
You do realize that in MMA fighter’s hand speeds aren’t as high because they have to look out for other things like takedowns and kicks? Just figured I’d enlighten you on that.
by YourMessiah on Dec 6, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Lampley said Mexicutioner! What up bitches? I’m internationally known!
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions
Pacman is the real Mexicutioner dude, hehe!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t wait till we see MMA fighters with the hand speed and power tandem of Pacman. He would hit GSP 30 times before he lifted a leg.
by tk on Dec 6, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions
Dude at 147 Manny would be fighting more like Faber! Boxing’s WW is different than MMA’s WW!
by JV on Dec 6, 2008 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I dont see how mariachi music can hype anyone for a fight.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Vicente Fernandez!!! Song (traigo la sangre caliente) Que mas quieres para dar unos chingasos?
by JV on Dec 7, 2008 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Best walk out song in my opinion:
“becoming the bull” by Atreyu
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 7, 2008 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Bruce Buffer’s got nothing on Michael Buffer.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply actions
Dude I know. I didn’t say he would beat GSP. His speed and power are scary.
by tk on Dec 6, 2008 11:23 PM EST reply actions
From ESPN’s punch by punch update
“De La Hoya looks downright old.”
“Forget pullthe trigger, De La Hoya doesn’t even have a gun”
by Fight Card Hammer on Dec 6, 2008 11:33 PM EST reply actions
I can’t find any sites where they recap the event. Is Pacquiao and De La Hoya fighting yet?
by Jared on Dec 6, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions
http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/12/oscar-de-la-hoy.html
sounds like pacs tooling him!
by medecine balls on Dec 6, 2008 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
JV. i thought this fight could possibly be a mismatch, i just never thought it would be one in manny’s favor. major props to manny and i’ll never doubt him again. oscar looked like a shell of his former self and looked like he got old overnight. i did predict the way for manny to win was to get in,do as much damage as possible quickly, and get out quick. he did just that. in and out quickly all night long. i never thought the fight would go down like this though. i thought oscar would be too big and too strong. i would be shocked if oscar didnt retire. he’s finished. bad news for boxing, after him, there will be no more million ppv’s for boxing for a very long time. i hope maywether comes out of retirement and fights manny. im already picking pacquiao to win. like i said, i’ll never doubt him again. :)
by b.w. on Dec 7, 2008 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I kept telling my brothers that if Manny could take Oscars punch he would win. But DAM! there wasnt no punches for him to take! I never thought it would be this way!!!!!! (Retire) is the perfect word for Oscar. And Mayweather will never come out of retirement to fight the likes of Manny! Mayweather either ducked fighters (Margarito, Cotto, Mosley) or waited till they didnt show much in their fights (Judah, Baldomir, Hatton)
by JV on Dec 7, 2008 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
pacquiao and hatton might make for a good fight.other than that boxing died just a little more tonight. your right, oscar never landed 1 single significant punch. i also though oscar would come in at 160 and have a big size advantge,(even emmanuel steward said the same) but nothing was normal about this fight. icant wait for the tuf finale, ufn and ufc 92 and fields dynamite all in the next few weeks. i still like boxing, but WAR MMA!
by b.w. on Dec 7, 2008 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, it was weird! How the hell does a fighter rehydrate only 2 pounds? But like you say, TUF finale and UFC 92 should make my Dec. better!!!
by JV on Dec 7, 2008 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I am starting to think betting on De La Hoya was a bit of a poor choice.
by Amos on Dec 6, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions
Oscar was dismantelated by Manny tonight
Jab, Jab, Left… a la BJ with Sherk
by emiliano on Dec 6, 2008 11:52 PM EST reply actions
OSCAR LOOKED LIKE HE HAD ANOREXIA HAHAHAHA
GSP! GSP! GSP! GSP!
by TYSON on Dec 6, 2008 11:54 PM EST reply actions
BOXING = BORING
BOXING = GAY
BOXING = ZZZZZZZ
WE NEED TYSON BACK!!!! I WANT EARS BITTEN!
by TYSON on Dec 6, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions
Bob Arum is a shmuck. He needs to die.
by the_mexicutioner on Dec 6, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions
CLEAR OUT YOUR LOCKER U BUM! YOU COULDNT BEAT SPIDER RICO NOW!
by TYSON on Dec 7, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply actions
Why is this thread even on here? what’s next, we talk about a hockey fight? This is an mma site and keep it that way bud.
by pug on Dec 7, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply actions
It’s all about fights you pug!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Roger “El Pollo” Huerta! Hope there are pics of that, I’m sure Vera will make sure of it.
by DSmith on Dec 7, 2008 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I called it so perfect! I knew another mexican boxer was gonna fall into the mexican killers hands! mma is so much better though.
by Who Am i on Dec 7, 2008 12:08 AM EST reply actions
I LOVE MMA … But better ?
I havent seen the De La Hoya fight yet ( Link would be appreciated , but I watched the Carl Frotch fight…Awesome, as good as any MMA fight Ive seen this year
I love both MMA & Boxing equally ! Both fking awesome
by Big PG on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 AM EST up reply actions
i think mma is better in the fact that you get to see top fighters fight each other on a more consistent basis, as to where boxing you could wait years to see top fighters compete due to it’s corruptness.
by b.w. on Dec 7, 2008 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t watched boxing in forever. Tonight was a good fight, but I have to say that I realy don’t have the patience anymore. Thank God for dvr and fast forwarding. The production was awful, all that air time to talk about nothing.
by DSmith on Dec 7, 2008 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oscar is finished. I felt pretty bad watching Manny destroy him even though I was going for Manny.
by Ben on Dec 7, 2008 12:10 AM EST reply actions
Found some of the fight video (round 1 is no longer posted):
http://www.petkoto.com/2008/12/watch-or-download-manny-pacquiao-versus.html
by AR on Dec 7, 2008 1:04 AM EST reply actions
I AGREE, PAC MAN WOULD BEAT HIM VERY QUICKLY THOUGH
by TYSON on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
all i gotta say about that is FILIPINO PRIDE!!!
by kristine on Dec 7, 2008 1:24 AM EST reply actions
Oh yeah kristine, say it as it is!! Noypi rules!!…BTW, u in the US kristine?
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Dec 7, 2008 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hatton will destroy him! I picked Pacman as he was younger faster more hungry but most people laughed at my pick!
by Tony on Dec 7, 2008 2:06 AM EST reply actions
That sucked, thank god I didn’t pay for it, Not that I would buy a boxing ppv anyway. One time I’d like to see a boxer shoot into a double-leg takedown and then ground and pound until the wimpy old boxing refs managed to pull them off…..That would be cool….
by ProCannonFodder on Dec 7, 2008 2:24 AM EST reply actions
So, what, Roger Huerta has to wear the chicken suit on a busy street with a sign saying he loves Brandon Vera??
Or is it the other way around???
by fightfan on Dec 7, 2008 2:40 AM EST reply actions
Boxing is DEAD…. I have never bloged before, but tonight I must be heard. Tonight I went to a local bar to have some drinks with an atractive co-worker of mine. When I arived at the bar I realized that the Boxing match was tonight. What I saw was appalling. On nights that the UFC is airing this bar is so packed that I don’t want to be there. Tonight was no more busy than any other Saturday… The first two fights were down right criminal… the “fighters” (term used very losely) were knocked out with punches that did not land, they were blocked… The guyes Pussed out… Then in the main event the “face” of boxing was B*tch slapped by a man 3 weight classes smaller than him… Dominated!!! The only positive for boxing tonight is that for the first time since Hollyfild retired(the first time) I saw an impressive performance from a boxer… I know he is small and Mexican… not someone that many people get too excited about… but he is the first “real deal” the sport has seen in years… I have to say, if boxing has a future it must promote this man “Pacquiao” he is a true athlete, like the champions in the sport of MMA. This is the moment that boxing fans chose… support a soap opera star named De La Hoya, or get behind a real man and make Pacquiao the new standerd in their sport. I really hope they chose correctly, because I don’t need boxing to fail to enjoy my MMA.
by carsole on Dec 7, 2008 3:48 AM EST reply actions
Pacquiao is Filipino, not Mexican.
I agree with all your comments, it’s so rare these days you see something worthwhile in boxing, whereas MMA is almost always full of highlights.
by ARodOfIron on Dec 7, 2008 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Um…Oscar made 30 million…..boxing ain’t dead…your favourite bar is dead, and will be out of business before boxing is.
by introvert on Dec 7, 2008 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
PACMAN eats De La Hoya..Basically out classed him.
Time to see Roger Huerta in a chicken suit..haha
by skelow on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 AM EST reply actions
hey guys rumour circulating that a.silva could be fighting luiz cane at ufc 95 anyone got any info?
by scott on Dec 7, 2008 10:05 AM EST reply actions
Wow. What a one sided affair. Oscar should’ve never taken that fight. Manny is P4P the best boxer right now. PACMAN!
by Kimura88 on Dec 7, 2008 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Pacman is now a known fighter all over the world (thanks to Oscar)…just watch how fast Mayweather talks about coming out of retirement now that there is a guy that can make him millions more.
On a side note…Oscar is a legend of the sport and a champion time and time again. He deserves nothing but respect from anyone who watches ANY type of combative sport. You fools that come on here and talk down guys like him are completely of base. Grow up.
by introvert on Dec 7, 2008 10:57 AM EST reply actions
for once, i agree with you. oscar has done alot for the sport of boxing and has kinda carried the sport for the last 5-6 years. he fought every top challenger in his prime. he is no longer in his prime, thats why manny won. manny is 29, oscar is 35, big difference in boxing. if manny had fought a 29 year old oscar last night, the results would have been much different imo. oscar will be a billionaire soon, with all the money he’s earned and all the money he will make in the future with gbp and will be a 1rst ballot hall of famer. i’m not taking anything away from manny, he’s awesome, but it will be a long time before another fighter that comes along and captures the publics attention like oscar has.
by b.w. on Dec 7, 2008 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
mmamania.com? what does this have to do with mma?
by battery on Dec 7, 2008 11:58 AM EST reply actions
boxing, shut the door and lock it!
It stime to retire boxing!!
by TYSON on Dec 7, 2008 12:18 PM EST reply actions
Why retire boxing…Boxing is apart of MMA as JJ is or as Judo is or Thai KB, etc…Don’t disrepect any element that makes up MMA. Without any of these elements there would be no MMA. I myself do Judo and Boxing…and many MMA fighters attend different schools to get clear knowledge of each, to be a better fighter… So until you know how to learn how to throw a punch, have great foot work, manage distance, have good head movement, and learn to take a punch, have a little respect for boxing……i cant stand people who think they know what they are talking about..You sit there in the comfort of you couch and judge like boxing is an easy sport…
by Com'on on Dec 7, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hope Roger Huerta carrys through with the chickensuit bet with Vera.
by RobH86 on Dec 7, 2008 12:30 PM EST reply actions
gonna enjoy oscar getting his “butt” wooped his final 3 fights
by lookingup on Dec 7, 2008 3:46 PM EST reply actions
Bring on Chavez Jr vs. Old man Oscar…….Mohammad Ali could of through more punches than Oscar did that night……Last round did Oscar throw a punch?
by lookingup on Dec 7, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions
This was a fixed fight, that’s why boxing is going down. Boxing is more about money than really fighting, boxing should change the rules the winner of the fight should get the bigger pay day now matter who the names are this will ensure both fighter to really fight and not pretend
Oscar didn’t even try to fight, lesser fighters then Oscar did better against manny pacman is the best but I don’t think he is that good to shut out Oscar every round. I say it was fixed I wouldn’t be surprised if manny singed with golden boy.
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by David on Dec 7, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply actions
Fixed fight you say!!! hahaha….
Because it did not happen as most of you predicted you’re now saying it’s a fixed fight.. hhahaha….
you say: lesser fighters then Oscar did better against manny…
Why did you say this… Have you seen Barrera, Morales, Marques or Diaz fought with oscar? your just assuming man.. like most of you assumed that Pacman have no chance.. base you analysis and words on facts man.. not on assumption.
by aldpin on Dec 8, 2008 7:42 AM EST up reply actions
Before the fight, many are saying “Pacman will be beaten badly and that he is out of his league”..
Now, after the fight some are saying it’s a fixed fight because Oscar did not win and beat Manny Pacquiao like they predicted or wanted to..
And because Pacman gave his best, now its a fixed fight.
At david:
You said “lesser fighters than Oscar did better against manny” “but I don’t think he is that good to shut out Oscar”… How did you knew that previous figther who fought Manny is a lesser figther than Oscar? Did you saw them fight with Oscar? Of course no.. You’re just assuming again.. like most of you assumed that Oscar will badly beat pacman.. Base your words and analysis on facts man not on assumption..
by aldpin on Dec 8, 2008 7:35 AM EST reply actions
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