Frank Mir training to take 'Minotauro' Nogueira the distance at UFC 92

That is the part I would be worried about if I was Mir. It may be a good plan to beat Nog, (he certainly isn’t going to knock him out, and probably not submit him) but can Mir go the distance himself?

I said earlier man, Mir is a comedian. Remember people, this is a guy who plays flag football for cardio.

We’ll see. He’s never had good cardio before so I wonder if he’s doing things differently now. Normally you’d say this would be a really good fight until the late in the 2nd when Mir starts to gas. I hope he has improved his cardio because Nog never stops.

Have to go with Nog. Then again Nog hasn’t looked great recently. I know he’s renowned for taking a beating and still finding a way to win but I think he has also gotten slower. We’ll see. I’m looking forward to it.

John.. I bet 2 1/2 rounds..for to look like he has a snorkalin his mouth.

My favorite Nog line of the show .. " I ain’t playing around.. " I love it.

how bout when he said to that vinny kid “you are my enemy now”

that was scary.. next to Wandy.. he is the last guy I want calling me his enemy.

Yeah I’m not saying its gonna work, but its the best strategy to win

Mir has gone past the 3 minute mark only 3 times in his career and he looked drained to the point of exhaustion each time.

It amazes me that fighters in no way hide the fact that they dont reveal their real gameplan ahead of a fight yet everybody takes their word for it during fight promos.

Nog never quits. He has been in 20 minute fights with Fedor in which he took
relentless poundings and was still a live threat at the closing bell. Mir has hardly any experience going deep in a fight, and he looked absolutely terrible each time it has happened. We are talking about possibly the toughest fighter in the sport against a who has shown a tendancy to cover up and call it a night.

I do like Mir and think he can submit Nog though. If Barnett can have him in a knee bar as the round expires then Mir can be threat to submit him. I dont get why people are acting like Nog is more prone to big shots then Mir, Mir took two big right hands down the middle in the Vera fight and has never shown great defense on his feet, sans for push kicks.

You make it sound like Mir is on the same level as Barnett. Mir might wish that he was, but he definately is not. He is not in the same league as Barnett.

Listen up boys. Dont listen to this crap thats spewing out of Mir’s mouth. I say it everyday: Mir is the heavyweight Travis Lutter…..He just doesnt have the cardio and work ethic to go for 25 minutes. It will NEVER happen! Remember when lutter was awarded a title shot against Anderson, and he came in fat and over weight? THen he was given another chance at a big fight against Franklin and he gassed after 1 round? WE tend to think because its a HUGE fight that Mir will actually be conditioned, but I PROMISE you all that it wont be the case come Dec 27th!

Nog is going to severly out class, this b-level fighter/Marketing creation known as Frank muRRRR!!!!!

phil: 2 1/2 rounds is more like it, I gave him 3 to give the fat fuk the benefit of the doubt!

B-level my ass, he freakin owned and finished Nog, something Fedor couldn’t do in more than 1 attempt. It wasn’t even a fight. You guys should give Mir the respect he deserves. Forget about a few fights he didn’t look to good in because he was still recovering from a severe injury. He’s more than back now and the HW division better look out.

odds are up for the K1 GRAND PRIX this weekend… Badr Hari and Jerome LeBanner are both VERY live underdogs at +125 and +140!! place your money down now!

Seriously, Mir on GH and Test wouldn’t win.

i bet mir wins everyone downs him like they did forrest and look what he did, mirs gonna do what forrest did and eek out a decision based on POINTS

I took Forrest, but I just don’t see it in Mir, everything he’s good at, Nogs better.

Here here….overated since day one and completely outclassed in this one.

I agree, I have always thought he was overated. He has had a couple of good fights and that was it. I could never understand what all the fuss was about.

herring would beat mir

And if Herring wasn’t an IDIOT, he may have taken it!

yeah but rashad and mike brown have knockout power, mir does not… and neither chuck nor faber have the chin that nogueira does… so that rules out the “getting caught” and “punchers chance” element… which is a significant underdogs best chance to win in mma

I thought Tito was a very good coach.

I was not a huge fan of titos but so far i think he’s been the best coach on tuff so far.

It worked when they listened and would have worked the times they didn’t listen. It was just bad memories.

You’re right kevin. Serra is a great cornerman, except he’s got that awful accent! But I gotta say, if you asked me who would win this fight 2 months ago, I would have said Nog without blinking, but if Mir comes in a executes a good strategy(without gassing) he could shock a lot of people.

Franklin was the worst coach of any season.The guy couldn’t motivate for shit and had the personality of a doorknob. Tito and Serra have been the best coaches so far.Also Mir has no chance in this fight.

i wish you would have posted before me Nick J. I was stumbling on the spelling of “breathe” and now i know how to spell it. Its just not a word I type very often. It doesn’t help that i am a complete ot.

tyler, I thought Franklin was a good coach. He might not have a had a lot of personality but but at least he wasn’t an @ss hole like Highes.

Yeah for sure he’s better than most people give him credit for. I think people have the image of the bloated Mir in their heads. The one that got demolished by Vera. We all know he’s not that bad.

Still he did lose to Ian the Machine Freeman so…I don’t know. I think Nog wins this but I’ll be interested to see how competitive it is and what kind of condition Frank is in. He’s definitely not a walkover.

Yeah my image of Mir is tarnished from the Cruz fight where his face was a complete mess and he was severly gassed halfway through the first round. Did not look like someone capable of ever being top 15 let alone champ again.

I’ve got Nog all day long in this one, its a very easy pick.

Nogs standup is waaay better than Mirs, if you cancel out their jits (i know its playground logic) and roll in Mirs woefull cardio this is the easiest title fight to pick for a while.

Mir will be gassed by mid way through the 2nd and Nog will mount and force a TKO, bet the bank on it.

He was woeful against Marcio Cruz too. He really wasn’t ready to fight.

loads of talent? you must have a problem understanding if you think mir is going to win.i will make ant bet you want mir has great bjj i give him cerdit for that but he is no where near a elite and he will not beat nog.maybe he should rematch cruz or vera, and i hate when people say the mir of old he sucked than too.

dude he was 24 when he took the belt!! What do you want him to be like at that age? Don’t forget that he was an up-and-coming fighter at the time when he got in the accident. Since then it’s taken him 4 years to fully recover both physically AND MENTALLY (the crucial point). He now has fully dedicated himself to the sport and improved tremendously. I don’t care if you don’t believe that now but you’ll see it on the 27th and hopefully believe it then. Talent wise, at 29 years old, he’s wayyyy above Nog.

Anthony must be either Mir or his little brother.

Phil, I respect your comment, but I think that is exactly the point! Nog looks like an old run down “rough life” guy and hes only 2 years older than Mir! I would have guessed 11 years older….as far as Nog’s record, he has done some impressive things and I agree that as of right now, he is the #2 HW in the world….however, I believe Nog’s time is up, he is already burned out because he started too early and has been in too many battles, its amazing because he gets beat up in every fight but pulls the win out on his talent, but I think it is time for NOG to move on. This is a new era in MMA, and if Frank Mir can dedicate himself 100% to being in the best physical condition possible, I truly believe he can win. I would rather see Mir win, because I want to see the rematch between Brock and Mir.

i’m with PhilQNY.
Nog will walk through Mir, then Lesnar. i understand being a fan of Mir because he is a cool guy but to think he has much of a chance against Nog shows a lack of MMA knowledge. it is MMA so i won’t say it can’t happen but the chances are slim to none.

if anything i’d say Lesnar presents a bigger challenge then Mir.

lmao, who’s Roberto Travern? How about a 4-time BJJ black belt champion, that’s who he is. A guy way more decorated than Nog who Mir broke his arm in under a minute in his first MMA fight!!

lets skip ahead to after the accident when he still hadn’t recovered fully mentally until the Hardonk fight…

Hardonk, perhaps a top 5 HW in striking ability with what Joe Rogan has gone on record as saying the most brutal leg kicks in the sport… he submitted him in the 1st rd. Thats easier said than done against a guy that powerful. That’s all I’m saying.

Lesnar: Mir was facing a pretty unknown commodity with a clear ground weakness while he was a wizard on the ground…hmmm, what would you do? yeah, take the fight to the ground. Unlike your boy Couture who got tooled on the ground by Lesnar, Mir kept his composure, was never rattled, and eventually got the knee bar. That takes skill bud. I’d like to see what you’d do getting trashed with hammerfists the size of lunch buckets like Mir was.

wow jomamma! Nog won’t walk through Mir. He will probably beat him, but he won’t walk through him. Lesnar is going to beat Nog IMO. He’s just too freaking big and strong. I don’t think Nog will be able to control him, and Nog’s face will be a mess due to hammer fists from hell!

Anthony – travern was decorated but doesn’t come close to werdum. Nog trashed his ass. Hardonk – come on man, what’s the point of all the striking skill if you can’t stuff a takedown from across the cage by a guy limping on one leg? As far as your lesnar comment – Mir didn’t keep his composure buddy. Rewatch the fight in slow motion. He had his eyes closed and was just pawing at whatever limb he could feel. Even Mur admit that his BJJ is not on par with Nog (check bloodyelbow interview).

Nog takes this one but you can’t down play wins from Mir, that’s like GSP luckily beat Penn, a win is a win, Brock was killing Mir untill the end and then got caught but so what that is the sport

Completely agree. and I love your post above. I think this fight is going to be a rude awakening for a lot of people, particularly Mir. Oh, and the other thing Mir has over Nog that you forgot, and this is very important to Frank: Hair. He has better hair and leg kicks.

not after the ultimate fighter semis ended. http://www.spike.com/video/exclusive-frank-mirs/3071707

Gabe would mess him up badddd