Kenny Florian: BJ Penn is 'human' and 'can be beaten'

I don’t understand why Kenny would make the comment of he’s human he can be beaten.I mean BJ’s a great fighter but come on he’s lost 4 times.No shit he can be beaten.

Sure Kenny, he can be beaten, just not by you.

Penn’s so overrated it’s not even funny. Florian would mop the floor with him imo.

After GSP mops the floor with BJ he can go back to the LW division and defend his belt maybe once every 2 years. IMO if you move up to another weight class have to give up the belt. It’s just not fair for the rest of the fighters in the division that have to wait and wait till they get a shot. I personally don’t think he should even get a automatic shot at WW title he should have fought one or two fight to earn a title shot. I guess it doesn’t matter GSP will send him back down to LW division.

BJ is on a totally different level than Sherk and Kenny. I do think Kenny has a chance but as Bj stated, he is the “greatest mind in mma.” It’s going to be a good fight and that’s all i care about. Hopefully BJ knocks out or submits GSP because I don’t see GSP winning the same way.

GSP vs Penn fight is stupid right now!(Not saying I dont want to see it) If BJ wins, it’ll only take longer for the lw and ww belt to be defended at times. Kenny’s in line at lw and Alves at ww, if BJ wins who does he fight next? Does he return to lw, stay up to fight Alves or is it GSP-Penn 3? Too much shit to think about if Penn wins, the UFC should have him continue at lw and let GSP fight Alves!

Personally I think GSP’s gonna win so there really is no need to think about the aftermath of Bj winning, though theres no way in hell to be certain about this fight. I did bet my buddy 100 bucks on gsp. gsp tko round 4

GSP will beat BJ
BJ will beat K-flo
The spider will KILL GSP

Cheers from Canada!

GSP: we all love you but…… didn’t you watch the Silva/Franklin fights…..book a plastic surgeon brother!

GSP is going to beat bj up for five rounds and send him back down to the lightweight division, I wonder if he’ll just retire once he realizes he cant beat GSP. He doesnt seem very motivated to fight at 155 anymore, since he hasnt really been challenged

I like Kenny and root for him in all his performances BUT as good as he is, like sherk, BJ is on a an ENTIRELY different level!

Forget Bj/Florian FOR NOW! GSP vs PENN II is the biggest and best i can think of and its coming up!

at LW BJ is untouchable….170 may be a different story but timw will tell!

BJ is a confident and cocky sonuva bitch but with this new cardio he is a MONSTER……

NoOne can call the penn/gsp fight its all about whose better on that GIVEN night!

Keep dreamin dude GSP will be in the fight of his life. I like both fighters, but to call this an easy fight for GSP is crazy.

Y me Get Mod

I like BJ and GSP and don’t really care who wins as long as it is a good fight. This is going to be a war an I am looking forward to it. I am a big fan of Kenny and stopped doubting him after his first three fights when he kept winning and proving me wrong. You will not see a fighter more hungry and determined to prove himself. Penn should not underestimate him.

Has anyone looked at

1. Penn, GSP and Florian resumes
2. Penn, GSP and Florian last 4 performances

All I know, is GSP is on a tear, I honestly don’t even know why Penn is considered one of the pound for pound best fighters, maybe it has to do with his natural talent and the fact that he is seriously training right now. GSP has away better career resume then Penn by far but thats not important; GSP since losing to Serra along time ago has dominated; I predict this GSP will beat Penn; he’s just a way better fighter; unless Penn catches him like Serra did, but who knows. Penn will drop down and fight Florian; that will suck for Florian, hes good but Penn will have something to really prove, if he loses to Florian I think Penn may retire or mentally will need a break and take some time away from the game.I predict Penn will beat Florian; GSP will fight Alves and I feel sorry for the Pitbull but I think GSP will be relentless. Then I think we may see a Penn vs Sherk again pending on Sherks next fight who knows, but after GSP reels off wins over Penn and Alves then we will see one of the greatest fights in the history of MMA; GSP vs Anderson Silva at a catch weight, other then Fedor the best pound for pound fighters in MMA with the most dominating welterweight; thats right not Matt Hughes vs Anderson Silva the most dominating middleweight. I don’t know who will win that. Again anything can happen in the octagon and I could be totally wrong. I hope Anderson fights soon and I hope he puts on a better performance, not sure what was up with him last fight; I have a theory that he took it easy on Cote and didn’t want to hurt him, cause he liked him; also I think he wanted to drag that fight out to get more rounds in; but only anderson silva knows; I know he said it was his game plan to do that but with Cote; maybe he respected Cote punching power?? who knows. I hope the UFC signs Fedor; Fedor vs Lesnar I want to see that. where the hell is Tim sylvia has he retired?? Its Crazy but Tm Sylvia has fought everybody pretty much; Fedor, Nogueira, Couture, Mir, Arlovski, unfortunately for him he lost to all those guys. Lesnar easily take him down and dominate him, so We won’t see that fight ever.

for me the penn/gsp fight is a real pickem but bj destroys florian.i dont even see florian beating sherk in a rematch.as for the proposed gsp/silva fight i dont give gsp a chance.i know you can never take mma maths into consideration but can you honestly(nuthugging aside)hand on heart say that gsp would beat hendo or franklin or even marquadt for that matter.then youve got the next tier of bisping/leites/maia.i wouldnt say they are definites!!

If Kenny Florian has to convince himself of the obvious, then he’s obviously not confident enough to beat BJ.

I honestly think Kenny’s starting to talk to get BJ focused on lightweight again. Kenny’s not going to sit back and wait after the GSP fight for Penn to decide he wants to fight at middleweight for some reason. I think he’s trying to get his attention so that he wants to return to lightweight. Also another supporter of GSP beating Penn.

Scott, i honestly see GSP destroying all of those aforementioned names, except for maybe hendo. i think the only other one in that list that might give him trouble is franklin, but GSP’s striking is way more technical. and he has a much better ground game. bisping? bisping couldnt put away leben. i mean, leben is a tough as nails dude, but do you see GSP fighting leben and NOT finishing him? not me.

i would much rather see roger huerta vs bj penn, roger lost to kenflo but he likes a brawl and doesnt run like kenny, same for bj he likes the standup cus his striking is magnificiant, look at the gsp fight his face blew up like a balloon
anyways i think that would be a potential fight of the year.

i dont think bj should give up belt, he demolished sherk, sherk too is beyond most lw, and bj will defend it when he has to, i really cant see kenny winning this fight. bj not roger when he hits and runs bj will counterstrike and possibly drop him he will hurt him, if he kod sherk he can do it to kenny.

as far as ww, i think bj has a chance he did in first fight and they both improved so much, but if gsp keeps sharp with his takedowns he will secure a unanimous decision, if itit goes past 4 rds i still dont think bj will have sufficiant stamina, he was exhauseted after both joe and sherk fights.

but only the fights will tell.

Roger Huerta is the most overrated fighter at LW.
He got SOOO much press and hype (magazine covers too) yet he, as it was proven, sucks! Maybe a little exaggeration but he is definately a low-mid tier fighter!

Wheres that dude that called me a “puss” yesterday?? Let that cat know im getting ready to meet with a Marines Corp recruiter in a few hours so i can enlist . . . What “puss” does that? BJ BJ BJ!!!

if bj wins against gsp he needs to either just give up the 155 belt or fight florian then give up the 155 belt when he wins

lot of decent title fights at 155 sherk joe daddy florian maybe huerta…

for BJ to create his legacy as the best ever he needs to beat GSP then clean out the 170 division

beating sherk again florian huerta etc doesnt really build the legacy he wants

also with him fighting 4 times per year its not practical to tie up 2 belts and also lessen the number of 5 round fights
BJ winning sets up a great rematch with GSP but if he does that and refuses to give up the 155 belt then ufc will have created a headache for themself

also with this being BJ its only a matter of time before he decides he wants to face andersson silva…

I for one am not that impressed with penns resume, ya he’s a good fighter but he’s no anderson silva or fedor. I’m sick of his excuses, didn’t train properly, didn’t train properly. I watched behind the scenes of ufc 58 part 1 and 2 and bj’s trainer said bj’s has never being better and is in terrific shape, not taking fighting seriously? There’s so much hype surrounding this guy without so much backing it up. Gsp has a better resume than this guy, trains smarter and harder and will be the favorite in this up coming fight for a reason. Honestly I wasn’t all that impressed with penns performance over sherk ya he tko’s him at the end of round 3 but destroyed him is exaggerating to me. Anderson silva other than cote destroys his opponents, hendo and lutter beat silva in the first round and I wouldn’t say he destroyed them either but did finish them in the second round. And for those who say penn never has a mark watch part 2 of ufc 58 behind the scenes he has bruises on his face but gsp looked terrible one eye was really messed up which I still believe was a thumb in the eye, whatever though,it happens. Fights aren’t won on how much the opponent bleeds, or how beat up a fighers face is after a fight, as one punch in the nose can cause a hell of a lot of blood, or a elbow that cuts the forehead can cause a blood bath. That why the rules are based on effective striking,grappling and octagon control based on a 3 or 5 round fight. Gsp did bleed a lot and did get damaged more than penn but that was all in round one, penn did nothing in rounds two or three to win them, unless you want to change the rules gsp won the fight. I watched the first round of gsp/penn the other day and still don’t think penn destroyed gsp in that round gsp connected several times with leg kicks punched him a couple of times and did push him in the fence, obviously penn punched gsp more in the face and had more effective striking is why he won the round, it just looked worst that it was because of the blood involved. I’m pretty sure gsp with win this rematch and penn will be forced to fight florian which isn’t a guarantee for penn as I sure most think it will be, and agree with what someone said earlier if he loses to florian he might quite all together, as it would be very embarrassing and too much for his huge ego to handle.

Nathan, you were responding to what I wrote; Penn said he wants to be a legend; Dana says if he beats GSP; he doesn’t have the body frame to fight Anderson Siva huge blow right there; if he loses to GSP; huge blow right there and facing Florian is not going to be easy thats for sure; if he loses holy huge blow; 3 strikes and your out; I will add I could be wrong; but if those things were to happen; mentally that could mess with his head. Guess we will have to wait and see. It doesn’t matter if Penn wins and loses; he will be fighting Florian for LW Title; when who knows but I bet Florian has learned from his loss to Sherk; infact what a great learning lesson for Florian; Penn does not have the intensity or cardio that Sherk has; better boxing I will give Penn but Sherk learning as we speak; but Florain probably is working his ass off as we speak; Penn you have your hands full. Forget about numbers and stats; GSP last fight and Penn last fight; who would win of the losers Fitch vs Sherk?? I that would be crazy; Penn picke apart Sherk pretty good; but sherk never tried to shoot or take him down; while Fitch never went away; he just kept coming and GSP kept putting him away each round for 5 I will add; I know people Love Penn as people love GSP; but forget who your favourite fighter is; look atwho seems to be on top of the game recently, who has more skills, work ethic, fought better opponents; they fought before who cares really; look at GSP and who he has beat and what he has done sice then. I will say thought anything can happen in the Octagon. Hey if Penn can beat GSP my hats are off but I doubt it; I want Couture to beat Lesnar I was wrong but my hats are off to Lesnar;

Am I the only one that has a feeling Kenny will win. Everyone is writing him off because they feel BJ is better in every aspect of fighting. But I believe Kenny is going to push the pace use his reach, and elusiveness and try and tire Penn out. I got Florian Decision.

His reach won’t be effective because he has no power to set up his right, so he will have to use leg kicks. He won’t want to through a lot of leg kicks either, because BJ will sweep and take him down. His best bet is to stick and move.

Adam G
 I think its impressive when a fighter racks up an arsenal of wins in a row might I add to their resume, we could see the rebirth of Penn, or we could see a GSP against Anderson Silva.

Jared
I like Florian he demolished Joe Daddy, and I think he does have a chance to beat Penn; after all I like his comments he said, Penn is only human, everyone gets beaten at one time or another in MMA with exception of Fedor, It will be interesting to see him fight Arlovski, I think He will take arlovski down and submit him.

2009 is going to be a year where I am going to say; holy who is going to win, I am nervous for Liddell. I love being a fan, and I love cming on here and reading everybody comments

I used to really like bj and think he was a really great fighter but now that I look back at his fights I dont think as highly of him as i used to…I guess you can use the argument he wasnt serious then and he is now if you want but I think he’s a little over rated as far as considering him to be a super great fighter, I think he should stay at lightweight and he could go down as the greatest lightweight ever I think kenny will be a tough fight for him tho. For people that say his standup is magnificent I dont think so I think its good but not wow super good, when he fought hughes at ufc 63 he was winning the standup vs hughes which anyone with any kind of standup would cuz hughes standup is horrible and he didnt even really rock or damage hughes too bad in it. And he wasnt that impressive over jens pulver to me either, honestly jens he sucks at least nowadays. And joe daddy he’s ok but kenny just whooped him even easier then bj and sherk is just like a smaller hughes , maybe a little better standup but nothing dynamic… I think gsp is going to win this fight easily only chance bj has is catch him with a punch or knee and daze him otherwise almost no chance, hes not going to submit him come on be realistic

Ya 2009 with be an interesting year and no cory I wasn’t really responding to what you wrote good points though. Seeing behind the scenes of ufc 58 part 1 and 2 was very interesting because it let you know the mind set of each of the fighters going into the fight. Penn said this fight shouldn’t be a problem at all, he over looked gsp and so did the guys around him, I remember him in an interview chuckling at the thought of gsp beating him, talk about under estimating you opponent, he should have watched some of gsp’s fights.
             Gsp does have an interesting history though he has two loses serra and hughes both he came back and destroyed, he had a bad fight with penn, he got hurt and barely won, something tells me history will repeat it’s self, gsp never makes the same mistake twice as he’s shown. Serra embarrassed the hell out of him which was gsp’s worse loss and look at there second fight, gsp makes a beginners mistake against hughes,embarrass’s gsp and then gsp destroys and embarrass’s hughes twice and the second was worse than the first. With all that being said all it takes is one punch to end the fight, one mistake, I think gsp will beat penn much more decisively than the first time especially since its a 5 rounder and think florian is a lot tougher than most are giving him credit, I think penn will win but wouldn’t be shocked if he lost. If that happened I hope penn doesn’t quit because he is a very entertaining fighter to watch I just think most exaggerate his abilities, I guess he has a lot of fans and they love the man.
        I have to bring this up which I find amusing as most die hard penn fans decribe the hughes fight as completely one sides until penn seperates his rib and gasses or whatever. The funny part is most say he destroyed hughes in the first round, I actually thought it was fairly close with the round consisting of hughes trying to take penn down and penn stuffing them(destroying????), the funny part is one of the judges actually gave the round to hughes LOL. Another point I have to bring up is penn was doing f**k all to hughes until he got his back which penn said was the time he hurt his rib. The only time he (destroyed hughes) was with the arm lock and triangle choke after he hurt himself, I actually think he burned out his legs combined with the injury really f**ked him up so he was pretty much useless in the third round so hughes just had his way with him end of story.
              I admit I’m biased towards gsp but really try to be objective when looking at which fighter who I think will win. I think thiago alves will be a harder test than penn for gsp and anderson silva is a fight gsp should hold off on until he beefs up a bit and improves his power and mai thai skills andersons a monster right now. Yes I think 2009 should be a great year for MMA I just really wish the UFC could bring Fedor over that would be sweet.

Just look at anderson silva’s resume in the ufc at middle weight then check out penns resume at light weight, enough said.

after joe fight bj was out of breath, watch his speech after.
and sherk fight he was breathing heavily too.
gsp will definately push a faster pase than either joe or sherk
i didnt say huerta would beat bj, but it would be an awesome standup fight, i dont see either shooting for takedown or backing up once.
yea he was getting worked by guida but he never lost confidence he made up for his performance in that third round, true right.
and yes huerta is over hyped, reason for that i think is to bring the hispanics to mma rather than boxing, u have huerta and probably eddie sanches who isnt too great that are latinos. maybe cain velasquez who i dunno if still is in ufc after dispute.
but besides the hype he is good fighter, hes young so he can improve still.
i i think he can beat joe stevenson, probably in similar fashion kenny beat joe just longer fight. i met joe and i love the guy but besides his guillotine he needs standup work. only fight i remember him winning withoit choke was a decision to cumo and pellegrino.
huerta and tyson griffin i can see next for them.
kenny improved amazingly after sherk fight
but he hasnt fought any taller stronger wrestlers since sherk, joe wrestled in hs and he told me he wasnt all that great till after hs what about when he meets gray or frankie edgar, or sherk again, we will see his current takedown defense, then if he can beat them, by all means i see him as the future p4p king.

fights in lw i wanna see
kenny vs bj of course (best bjj in lw)
sean sherk vs gray maynard (best wrestlers in lw)
tyson grifin vs roger huerta (best fight of the nighters lol)
joe stevenson vs many gamburyian (shortest lws)
nate diaz vs joe lauzon (scrony but sharp lw)
matt wiman vs rob emerson (heavy hitting lws)
clay guida vs kurt pellegrino or sherk or gray

Fights I want to see
  fedor vs anderson silva 205
  bj vs florian 155
  bj vs clay guida 155
  gsp vs thiago alves 170
  hughes vs diego sanchez 170
  koscheck vs fitch 170
  diego sanchez vs bj 170
  karo vs hughes 170
  serra vs hughes 170

Oh ya a rematch with fitch and thiago would be cool too.