b.w then why is Chuck Liddell making that much money without having to take a paycut after losing? .. Tito Ortiz is worth way more than they paid him

you guys dont get that this a business first, just like any othe sport.chuck is a legend and sells ALOT of ppv’s and tickets. he is one of the few fighters who is a cross-over star. werdum is pretty much a nobody except to hardcore fans. tito WAS a big draw, but i dont think he ever achieved the status that chuck or randy has. plus tito is a trouble maker and thinks he is worth more than what he actually is. why do you think tito has’nt signed a contract yet?

As usual, nothing to disagree with in your posts b.w.

Werdum thinks he’s worth WAY more than he actually is (just like Tito – I mean Trump’s son even waded into that whole “record contract” mess). As others have said below, Fabby should have taken the pay cut and ran with it. He should also probably take a page out of Tom Cruiz’ book and fire that sister of his that he’s currently go as his manager.

On top of the fact that Chuck is still one of the biggest PPV draws in the UFC, he is also a loyal company guy, and loyal employees often get better treatment than guys who call their boss a bitch. As a business owner, it makes sense to me, and as you said b.w., it’s business baby.

right on. :)

you couldn’t be more wrong b.w that is the only thing i get.. and that is why the comparison between Werdum and Tito is horrible, Tito Ortiz is in fact a bigger draw than Chuck Liddell and A hell of a lot bigger draw than Randy Couture, if you don’t believe that u should go and compare their numbers and you’ll see that Tito is the best. the amazing thing about it is that the UFC wasn’t even marketing Tito the way they did with the others, he did it on his own.. bottom line Tito Ortiz is worth more than Chuck and Randy, the only huge problem in the way is Dana White because he lets his personal feelings get in the way of business. he has been trying to take Tito’s stardom away by matching him up with extremely bad stylisctic matchups, and tries to market his boy Chuck whom he thought was gonna KO the guy Tito beat! Could you imagine if the UFC even tried to market Tito the way they do with Chuck and gave him better matchups with guys that they thought and hoped Tito was going to beat like they do for Chuck!

Chuck losing 3 out of 4 and they’re not even saying a word about it? yea i know b/c it’s a business.. but THAT is the f’in thing if Tito had lost 3 out of 4 fights Dana would mention it every chance he gets, and that is what Dana is doing he’s critizizing him like hell because he’s not winning over top 5 guys, but hey when it comes to Tito it has nothing to do with business or the entertaining fights he’s in, even if he draws more than anyone and wins over an opponent that Chuck loses to. Chuck could go on to lose his 4th in 5 fights, and he still gets paid alot more than the other guys and Dana never says a word about it b/c Chuck is his best friend! .. there is no answer to this because this is straight facts and you know it!

Tito Ortiz is a bigger celebrity and a star than Liddell is..

And that’s why he’s been gainfully unemployed since he left the UFC in May.
If Tito Ortiz was actually good for business he would have fought, or at least signed with someone, in the last 6 months. And don’t give me the “bad back” excuse, he’s just getting some work done because he couldn’t find his giant-headed ass a J-O-B. Thankfully for guys like you though he’s a super human healer and he’ll be back in 1/2 the time it took Nate Quarry?!?!?

yeaa b/c he’s been training much harder and been in much better shape than Nate Quarry’s ever been in since he was a kid.. he’s been unemployed b/c the UFC rules MMA and Dana White keeps the other orgs small, Tito is a bigger star than any organization can handle b/c the money isn’t in the sport! he should’ve been a soccer player in europe where stars get paid what they deserve and gets appreciated by the fans.. and to have a president that has close personal relationships with fighters and favorizes guys that he likes and throws the guys out that wants to make some money is just unbelivably bad, Tito’s been f’in makin Dana’s money who’s been giving money to whom.. look at the ppv numbers when Tito’s been fighting and you’ll see that the numbers he’s done were at the time great for the UFC..

Tito, is that you? Or does RoB = Jenna? Because I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a fan that actually believes ALL the crap that comes out of his Huntington Beach Pie Hole.
How the hell would you know anything about Nate Quarry’s “training” anyway? What a silly comment.
I also like how you actually blame D.W. and the UFC for Tito’s outlandish contract demands. Riiiiight, it’s everybody’s fault BUT Tito’s. Take it from me RoB (or don’t, I don’t really care), problem employees are more trouble than their worth, and as “business man” Tito should understand that and act like an friggin’ adult.

Anyway, good luck with the twins you guys.

Yup Barnett would own Lesnar. Dont know about AA though.

AA has much better striking than Randy and matches up better with Brock Lesnar in size, so i’d say that Andrei wins that fight. but it would be close and in a year maybe i’d give Brock the edge.. Brock is a beast and he would definitely be a top 5 hw if he beats Nogueira!