Jon Fitch, Christian Wellisch and possibly others cut by UFC

Former number one UFC welterweight contender Jon Fitch was today handed his walking papers for refusing to sign an agreement that would give the promotion exclusive lifetime video game rights to his name and likeness, MMAmania.com can exclusively confirm.
American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) team member Christian Wellisch was also released. Others who do not sign the agreement could also be let go in the near future, including stars Cain Velasquez and Josh Koscheck (he will still headline UFC Fight Night 16: "Fight for the Troops").
Fitch and members of his camp were not immediately available for comment on the startling development.
While the full details are a little murky at this time, Fitch was apparently approached about the issue when he turned in his signed bout agreement to fight Akihiro Gono at UFC 94: "St. Pierre vs. Penn 2" on January 31. And when he and his representatives attempted to negotiate the video game deal it was all or nothing.
He didn't sign it and was terminated shortly therefafter.
Fitch -- who is tied with Royce Gracie and Anderson Silva for the most consecutive wins in UFC history (eight) -- recently lost a gutsy unanimous decision to welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre at UFC 87: "Seek and Destroy" on August 9.
The former Purdue University wrestler just returned from a trip to Thailand to refine his Muay Thai and stand up skills. For the time being he may have to now put those skills to the test outside the Octagon for the first time since 2006.
He's among the top 170-pound fighters in the world and should land on his feet sooner rather than later. Talk about a big loss for the UFC ... and Jon Fitch.
More on this breaking exclusive news as soon as we receive it. Hopefully cooler heads soon prevail.
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by Rich B on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why didn’t you sign the agreement Fitch!??! Why?!
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Nov 19, 2008 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch is a top tier fighter, but he is no GSP, Lesner, Liddell in terms of marketing. I say he should have signed the deal and remained with the top MMA organization.
by DJR on Nov 19, 2008 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he really that important for the game? How many kids are gonna be saying “I call John Fitch, I get to be John Fitch!”
It does suck that the UFC would let someone go over that, especially a talented fighter, but hindsight being 20/20, I am sure Fitch wishes he just signed it.
by naturalshadow on Nov 20, 2008 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nobody is going nowhere they are basically going to make a create a player and he’’l be on it. fitch willbe in the ufc for a long time.
by mikeybear on Nov 20, 2008 2:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Rich B should have just said “that sucks” and leave it at that for his wit.
by Brandon is right on Nov 19, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHERES ALL THE UFC NUTHUGGERS NOW?!?!!? keep lying to yourselves that the UFC is a fair organization guys
by brendan on Nov 19, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haters are so much easier to point out than the “nuthuggers”.
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 19, 2008 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got to pick yr battles, this is one I side with the fighters… I’d like to hear the details of the likeness contract and if there’s compensation?.. Dana didn’t have to let fitch go just don’t use his likeness for the game.
Remember when Couture said Dana and the Fertitta’s treated Couture poorly because he wouldn’t sign the likeness contract? Anyone think there’s no truth to that?
Freaken’ petty move by Dana and the UFC… just a damn shame to strong arm fighters for a ‘freakin’ video game!
Dana is acting like a Chessy Boxing Promoter!
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by THORAZINE on Nov 20, 2008 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’M DEFINITELY BUYING THE NEXT AFFLICTION PAY PER VIEW and I’m going to watch all the next UFC’s at HOOTERS.. FREE!
by THORAZINE on Nov 20, 2008 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously? over a f$*%ing video game??!!….the past UFC games sucked…..and i think the new one will too.
Fitch is too good of a talent to be let go over a stupid game…..a sorry ass one at that. (probably)
by The 5th Beatle on Nov 20, 2008 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pay attention to crap like this the next time you Klown try to knock Fedor for not signing with the UFC. This is just ridiculous! This is why stars like Fedor do not sign with the UFC. This is just Bullshit. who the F is the UFC that they think that they should own the lifetime rights toa fighters name and image. F off!
Perfect! More fighters to help affliction grow
by john on Nov 20, 2008 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This pisses me off with Dana, he comes across ok sometimes but when he can save a dollar anywhere he will. I wish affliction would take off and I hope Fedor never comes over to the UFC so they can’t keep doing this sh*t. There needs to be another org. that will compete to make sure the fighters are always looked after. It’s like he thinks ‘oh well, another fighter will take his place’. If you just have Lesner, Penn, GSP, Liddell, Couture, Silva and a couple of others and line them up with nobodies what sort of fight is that going to be. In each div there are only 2 or 3 strong fighters the rest are up and comers. Dana needs to build an org. with quality fighters and stop thinking on how he can save a dollar for the fertitas to make his christmas bonus bigger.
by Mr Potato on Nov 20, 2008 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its understandable because the game stands to make a bunch of money…. its a big deal… business is business
by sanshouer on Nov 20, 2008 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not just about the business. It’s about people who are in it for the company and not just themselves. Fitch could have really helped himself by helping them but now he has to go and fight for affliction who may well go the same way as pro elite or strikeforce. He messed up big time.
by MattCat on Nov 20, 2008 4:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Before coming to work I was watching SportsCenter as always. I cought a glimpse of the bottom line and it said tha Jon Fitch was released by the UFC. I instantly rewound it and started to SCREAM.
Seriously, WHAT THE F*CK is up with this sh*t????
That REALLY pissed me off to begin my morning. Fitch has been my favorite WW in the UFC for a couple of years now, yes, well before his fights were making the main card.
Fitch is 8-1 in the UFC, only loss to GSP where he showed just as much heart in that fight as anyone has ever shown in the UFC. 99.9% of todays fighters would have crumbled and been stopped in that fight, but not Fitch.
I know this sounds crazy, but its too bad EliteXC isn’t still around because a Jake Shields vs Jon Fitch fight would have been thier BIGGEST fight to date, and is a fight that I have been wanting to see for a long time.
Losing Cain Valezquez and Kos as well, more than likely? What is the UFC thinking? A few dollars from some 12 year old kids buying video games should NOT force 2 of the top 3 WW’s and one of thier premier up and coming HW’s out of the organization. Cain would be an excellent addition to the Affliction HW roster. For Kos and Fitch, especially since they won’t fight each other, basically have 3 options. Affliction, Japan, or the locally based StrikeForce.
THIS IS JUST WRONG!!!
by ViolentMike on Nov 20, 2008 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does this also mean that Swick didn’t sign as well? It seems like it was the AKA guys that had a problem with the lifetime contact.
OH YEAH, and back to me reading it on the BottomLine on SportsCenter, it said that the news was being reported by MMAMANIA.COM!!!!!!!!!!!
Mania, did you catch SportsCenter yet?? I know you got props on MMAlive before but is this your first props on the real ESPN???? Congrats on that front!
by ViolentMike on Nov 20, 2008 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To answer my own question, Swick spoke with Dana personally and said that he does not want to leave the UFC no matter what…
by ViolentMike on Nov 20, 2008 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John, I figured somehow you would spin this so you could swing from Fedor’s sack! LOL. Seriously though would you even know who Jon Fitch is if it wasn’t for the UFC. If not for the UFC (and Dana) MMA would would not even be popular and you would not know who any of these guys are. If you don’t play by your companies rules then they have every right to let you go, same with any job. I think the UFC treats their fighters well. When Dana was asked to describe Chuck Liddell in one word he said “loyal”. Look where that got Chuck, he is the most recognized figure in the sport. Fedor just has bad management that does not know what is best for him. Ask yourself this, where would Fedor make the most money and get the most exposure? UFC, period. Once the guy got exposed to the biggest MMA arena his popularity would skyrocket and the cash would flow. He is just that good. You always spin these silly reasons why he is not in the UFC and complain about the conditions he was offered. If he had taken the offer two years ago he would be huge right now and be the highest paid MMA fighter. As far as the Jon Fitch thing goes, I’m sure it will all work out. Seems like you always hear garble like this early and then it all turns around with everyone saying “No,No there never was a problem”. What’s the big deal anyway, sign the silly contract. If he leaves UFC most people will forget about him anyway. Sad but true.
by Chainlink on Nov 20, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what is wrong with a 10 year deal? why does it have to be a life time deal or nothing? Its JUST WRONG!!! U need to stop swinging from my sack buddy! I dont even know who u r, yet you are so hung up on my every word?
U need to accumulate some more blogger miles before coming at me buddy! Im a Vet, u a rookie! lol
just teasin!
by john on Nov 20, 2008 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A 10 year deal would have been ok, that’s what I was thinking when they said that Fitch had been released. 10years is 5 games or so, why couldn’t fitch’s management sign a deal to that. If I was you Fitch I would be clawing my way back in to the UFC, because until all the fighters make a stand at the same time (STRIKE) then nobody has a bargaining tool. Dana sees all fighters as expendable commodities, if he had no fighters then he might have a change of heart.
by Mr Potato on Nov 20, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, video games truly are taking over the world. The UFC just lost the number 2 fighter in the welterweight division to a fat kid’s nintendo game.
by c-war on Nov 19, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who says Fitch is #2? He was dominated by GSP… Thiago Alves is #2 at 170lbs. As soon as the UFC signs Jake Shields, he will be #3…
by SDMMA on Nov 19, 2008 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets be real…Fitch beat Alves already, even though he is not currently ranked as the number 2 guy, he still is the 2nd best fighter in WW.
by c-war on Nov 19, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beside that he lost to the Champ, he’s still in the top 3 WW in the world right now. 16 consecutive win, 8 in the UFC, and he already beat Alves! (KO)
So… he still deserve the second spot! And in my mind, Shields is wayyy behind…
by Jee on Nov 19, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch is a top contender still in his division. And what comes to Jake Shields, Fitch, GSP, Alves and many others could give him a real beating now. He really needs to work with his standup game. Now his fighting looks pathetic.
by Padre on Nov 19, 2008 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch can beat Fitch?.. and Shields has better stand up than Fitch? I wish you had to take an IQ test before you were allowed to post.
by c-war on Nov 20, 2008 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it doesnt matter that they cut him. he was never going to be champ anyways. he cant beat GSP and if BJ wins he deff wont have a shot there either. it probably a good move for both parties.
what the hell is the big deal anyways. sign the damn thing just like MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA and all others have signed to be in games. granted they all have unions work the deals but they still have to sign.
by djhbv23 on Nov 20, 2008 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever seen a WWE or football game where half the players are missing because they don’t want to sign an f’in contract?
It’s like hey Jon, either you can sign up and get to be in this game with free publicity and what not. Or else you can try your luck on the open market with some farm league.
He’s going to be feeling real stupid in a few days.
by Dom on Nov 19, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of ww’s, here’s a new shields interview, little more realistic, says good first fight would be with Diego. I haven’t watched TUF yet, might have to pull a “conversation” out tomorrow or later tonight to talk about these developments. trying to digest it. enjoy!
by kevin on Nov 19, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As I watched the last fight card. UFC is losing it credibility. They will not make the fights we all want to see. Silva v GSP. Super Heavyweight is like Kimbo Jr. They let lesnar rise to the top before the people that deserve it. They are about to lose some of the vets soon(Lidell, Couture, Wvanderlei, Spider….) and now they are losing younger promatable talent. Dana better turn this around. Affliction will pick this talent up fast. I like the future of Affliction!
by Patrick on Nov 19, 2008 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like afflictions future to…on Danas tomb stone. haha. and how arent they giving us the fights we want. BJ vs GSP is huge and GSP will get anderson after that so hold on douche bag.
by djhbv23 on Nov 20, 2008 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad move by the UFC. Here’s an idea fellas, negotiate with one of your toughest fighters.
Idiots (said in all sincerity by a huge supporter of the UFC)
by Liam on Nov 19, 2008 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow this is nuts! The UFC’s just hoping Fitch comes around and signs the agreement.
If he doesn’t sign this is a pretty big loss for the UFC.
by mmanutz on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the rest of AKA (Kos, Swick, Cain) are of like mind. THAT would totally suck.
by synyster on Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a bigger loss for fitch than the UFC
by Dayvet on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree… he will have no choice but to sign the agreement and return. Why wouldnt he sign to be in the video game? What is better exposure for the UFC and Fitch himself than to be in a sweet game? Dumb move by Fitch, he will realize it and return soon… hopefully.
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Nov 19, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is not stupid. The UFC wants to own people and I don’t blame him. He may not get the exposure fighting with other promotions, but it’s a matter of principal. If he was making $500k per fight like Chuck yeah it would be stupid, but this guy doesn’t make that much as it is.
I am a huge UFC fan. So much that I spent over $50k last year going to fights. I doubt I will line the pockets of the UFC ever again until they start looking out for the fighers a little more. They are like pimps. I understand business because I have owned many very successful businesses over the last 20 years, but this is not ethical nor is it fair.
These guys deserve more than that. If I had 200 million to start a promotion I would do so today. I wish someone had the balls to compete against them and make something of it.
Of course who am I to say anything. They are making millions off of people like us while the fighters are here one minute and gone the next.
by duh on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the point isn’t that he didn’t wanna be in the game, it’s that he doesn’t want them to have lifetime rights over his name and likeness. If some other org pops up down the road and he ends up there, he doesn’t want the UFC still making money off of his name. My guess is that he also wasn’t happy with the amount of money he was offered for the video game deal. Either way this is insane. They both better work this out
by Crowls on Nov 19, 2008 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what did i tell you guys? these are the same nazi reasons that fedor and many other great fighters are not signing with the UFC, clear cut example… wheres all the huggers at to defend this ridiculous decision?
by brendan on Nov 19, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I defend it on the basis of…
Feel lucky to be in the UFC. There is no other organization. GSP sign the stuff, BJ does, etc. Jon Fitch’s name won’t be worth shit in 5-10 years.
I hope fighting in a shitty organization was worth keeping his name for video games rights.
I’m sure the contract isn’t crazy, just says that UFC gets to make money off of him for video games.
by Ben on Nov 19, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They need to unionize and this is coming from a ufc nuthugger. Most these top guys still don’t make much money, especially when you consider they don’t have health coverage and they have to pay for training expenses. it’s sickening.
by Timmy on Nov 19, 2008 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then he should’ve just signed, he will never be featured in updated releases of its video game anyway if he’s not with them anymore. ufc will never promote someone who’s not with ufc, right?
by dorobikoy on Nov 19, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And a loss to us fans too…And what would happen to the Gono fight?
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Nov 19, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Though i am disappointed as an MMA fan, it’s not that big of a loss for the UFC. He’s not the most marketable guy and everyone saw him getting stomped out by GSP. Funnily enough only marketable fighters or “legends” have that right to opt out of this bs clause. As far as wellisch, who are we kidding?
by NameNotRequired on Nov 19, 2008 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, one would think that zuffa would need/want to lock down their stars but they are the ones with power to opt out. If He was more marketable this would have never happened.
by NameNotRequired on Nov 20, 2008 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I smell BULL SHIT!!! As the UFC has made it look easy to run an MMA promotion, but it’s really hard to believe that Dana is willing to lose quality fighters over a video game (and the loss of Fitch is HUGE!).
The UFC is making the biggest fucking mistake taking such a hard stance with this game.
by HB Beachbum on Nov 19, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on who refuses the deal before determining who its a loss for. While Fitch is a pretty surprising loss…there are other welterweight fighters…
by Jase on Nov 19, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC has gone gestapo.. All things have a finite life span, i pray the UFC’s lifespan is longer than i am currently fearing.
Its sickening to lose a quality person and fighter like Fitch over something this trivial..
by Brandon Smith on Nov 19, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This has always been my biggest gripe with the UFC. This is the most upfront example of them firing someone for something so ridiculous, but they regularly refuse to sign fighters for minor gripes or because that fighter is not willing to give their soul to the UFC. It hurts the org. The UFC is still the best in the business and might always be, but they could be sooo much better.
by Clayton on Nov 19, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC won’t get better until there is another org that can sell as many PPV.
Until then, the fighters just need to sign whatever.
Life outside the UFC sucks right now.
by Ben on Nov 19, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For sure. I’ve been arguing this point for a long time. Competition is good. Worker organization can be pretty shitty at times, but in sports it usually works out for the better. I think these guys seriously need to organize. Something like the NFL players association. That should keep them covered until Dana White is out of his present position or another org. can step it up and compete on a greater level.
by Clayton on Nov 20, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree. fitch gone over something like that?! it just makes me wonder if theres more to it than what we’re hearing…
by allamerican on Nov 19, 2008 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really both ufc and fitch are to blame. neither could come to an agreement therefore its both their faults.
by phil on Nov 19, 2008 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily. whenever one of the two parties are unreasonably stubborn, you can’t blame the other for not coming to an agreement.
by RHV on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldn’t Fitch just sign the agreement, what’s the big f’in deal? Maybe Dana is making a statement that you have to be fully committed to the UFC.
by MikeD on Nov 19, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i guess he didnt want to be in the ufc video game for the rest of his life
by matt on Nov 19, 2008 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah MikeD why wouldn’t Fitch just do like he’s told right, who the hell is he to try and make up his own mind and go against Dana and his my way or the highway ultimatum. People who don’t just lie down on command and actually think for themselves should be put right in their place shouldn’t they.
by Robert on Nov 19, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FTHAT!!! Would you want someone owning your name for life? If you life is sad, maybe, but I don’t think his is. He probably has another thing, it’s called pride. I was a big Dana/ufc fan, but more and more i’m not. Who the f does he think he is? It’s about the fighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by BOW on Nov 20, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if fitch goes anywhere hes a number 1 countender
by rawbt on Nov 19, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is complete Bullshit. If John Fitch doesn’t want to be in a gay-ass video game or doesn’t want to sign something on the spot that states that he gives the UFC ‘lifetime rights’ to his video game likeness, then so the fuck what?!! I can hear Dana White now, “If it wasn’t for the UFC, you wouldn’t be shit. Carve off your nuts right now and give them to me or you’re out.” Fuck that.
by Kenny the Swede on Nov 19, 2008 9:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree… he will have no choice but to sign the agreement and return. Why wouldnt he sign to be in the video game? What is better exposure for the UFC and Fitch himself than to be in a sweet game? Dumb move by Fitch, he will realize it and return soon… hopefully
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Nov 19, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope the fighters come to their senses and en masse decide to not sign the agreement.
by Timmy on Nov 19, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is complete BS. If John Fitch doesn’t want to be in a some corny video game or doesn’t want to sign something on the spot that states that he gives the UFC ‘lifetime rights’ to his video game likeness, then so what?!! I can hear Dana White now, “If it wasn’t for the UFC, you wouldn’t be anything. Carve off your nuts right now and give them to me or you’re out.” screw that.
by Kenny the Swede on Nov 19, 2008 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FItch The Bitch
Id Be Proud To Be In A Video That Will Be Around Forever,
by Hotdamn on Nov 19, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Being proud doesn’t pay the bills. You know rent, trainers, medical food etc…
by Sam on Nov 19, 2008 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So hes a bitch? Do you even know hes reasoning? Bold statement keyboard warrior!
by BOW on Nov 20, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch The Bit$h
I’d Be Proud To Be IN A Video Game That Will Be Around Forever Even If The Game Sucked,
by Hotdamn on Nov 19, 2008 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, I’m not sure I would. No matter what happens ten years down the road, the UFC or whoever bough the rights from them would have sole ownership of your video game likeness. That shit is forever, man. It’s not just one game.
by Clayton on Nov 19, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is another reason why people hate the UFC. They have the greatest fighters in the world, but are terrible to them and even worse to other fight organizations. Jon Fitch is the greatest fighter at 170 pounds other than GSP and the UFC are making a huge mistake letting him go. Forcing all these exclusive deals is ridiculous and exactly why Fedor and Couture will never fight.
by Rush on Nov 19, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
all of you who support the ufc on this one are insane, the fighters are in this like its any other business to make money, they should have the right to their name and get some of profits from the video game, the ufc is slowly turning into a dictator, we need more competition to keep the ufc in check, they are getting to much power over the fighters. Thats like madden asking the same thing from top nfl stars, they wouldnt stand for and no fighter should.
by brian on Nov 19, 2008 9:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you want to use my likeness in any game you want ad infinitum? fine. pay up sucka. pretty simple I’d say.
by sycboi on Nov 19, 2008 9:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i guess thats probably it, they would give him what he wanted for it. Fuckers, losing such a entertaining fighter over this.
by medecine balls on Nov 19, 2008 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wtf? How the hell can they think’s it’s ok to cut a guy over a damn video game? That’s BS. This guy was in a freakin’ title fight not long ago, in which he tried hard as hell and didn’t quit, despite who he was fighting, and they cut him b/c he didn’t want to sign over “lifetime rights” for a game?!
by Dayman Fan on Nov 19, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Go Fitch! Completely agree with Kenny The Swede, I mean, what the hell? Can`t believe Dana expects anyone to sign an agreement giving away ‘lifetime rights’ to using their names. I hope the fighters get organized, this is an issue important enough to validate a strike! (even though that would mean no fighting for a while – yeah, i hate it as much as you do)
Dana and the UFC need to understand that the fighters are more important than their precious org. Fitch, Joachim Hansen and Fedor FTW!
by GoFITCH! on Nov 19, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Absolute bullshit! Fitch is stand up guy and one of my favorite fighters. Dana needs to relax.
by jason on Nov 19, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this is a beef that couture had and a lot of other fighters. its not just about a video game. its about them owning a fighter’s likeness in perpetuity, aka, forever. i have read before this wasnt just with regards to video games. but other items as well. like shirts, figures, etc. so that no matter how big a fighter gets or what he does when he’s done he’ll give up a whole pile of merchandising rights and money to the UFC.
i dont know the fine print. but its still a load of crap on the part of the UFC. to drop fitch like that. and i usually dont get pissed at the UFC or white, or the fighter salaries, etc. because i figure they are getting paid well enough that they and their management team are satisfied with their arrangement.
i dont think fitch or the dudes at AKA are idiots. and im sure there must be something messed up going on with this. the UFC might have a valid point with something here, but to cut the best welterweight in the world that isnt GSP, right away, over this junk. man. that is a discraceful move for the UFC. now, lets see if fitch’s management or camp give us some more info, or white and the fertittas, so we can see what the hell is up with this nonsense.
by hardcase on Nov 19, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well said Hardcase, I wish there was some sort of legal re-course a fighter could take against the UFC for something as petty as this!
by THORAZINE on Nov 20, 2008 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I give Fitch credit for standing up and saying no. The UFC is becoming a fascist machine. Fitch run to Affliction for their January card…
by Bigmcmac on Nov 19, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and fight whom? All AFfliction has is HW’s. They are a one trick pony!!!
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Nov 19, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. They have an excellent HW division…and thats about it.
by Jase on Nov 19, 2008 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they have a growing MW division sign on and fight at 185 for a fight not like he hasnt before, and negotiate with dana about this video game, hell just say “dude dont put me in it its against my religion” and he cant be released for religous reasons what would dana do then?
by randy murders on Nov 19, 2008 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what the f, jon fitch was one of my favorite fighters, now he is going to have to go freelance and fight a bunch of nobodies for the rest of career. How do u let him go when he is one of the best in the world sign him to a deal that keeps his rights as long as he is in the ufc why the hell do u need a lifetime right to using him a damn video game, not to many people are going to know who he is 50 years from now and he is in a video game
by matt on Nov 19, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Time to watch and support other promotions where our favorite fighters are going. Kinda like Arlovski, I support Affliction cuz i wanna see him fight.
by PRiME on Nov 19, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea but the ufc still puts on the best fight cards and i am not going to buy another organizations card just for one fight
by matt on Nov 19, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What the FUCK???? How can you let go someone who’s your clear cut #2 guy in a stacked division?! This is an example of another retarded UFC contract. What do they expect from these fighters? Fucking dictators
by RUSH on Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The UFC is OBVIOUSLY in the wrong here, cutting a fighter and personality like Jon Fitch is just stupid and wrong. However, the UFC wanted him to sign a contract for lifetime rights to his name in a VIDEO GAME! Being an avid gamer, I want Fitch to sign just so I can see him in all the UFC games.
I mean, I know the UFC is being unreasonable and all, but was Fitch really going to get rich off of being in a video game? Reminds me of all the NBA games missing Jordan and it pissed me off to no end.
by Razzel on Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YOU DANA WHITE.
lifetime video game rights? what a load of bullshit.
by J on Nov 19, 2008 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lol. It’s Jon Fitch, not GSP.
What is Jon Fitch worth? nada in the video game world
by Ben on Nov 19, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First time i think ive ever been really mad at Dana
by medecine balls on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The UFC is making a mistake getting rid of Fitch. He will be picked up by a promotion in NO TIME!!! The UFC claims they have the best in the world. If they want to keep it that way and not have a worthy #2 promotion they can’t just let go of these caliber fighters for something as non lasting as a video game. This game will be forgotten within 3-5 years, Fitch wont! UFC better watch who they let go, Fitch wasnt let go because of a bad losing streak, Fitch could be the next champion anywhere else.
When does the money greed end? We are no longer getting free fights till at least UFC97. WEC is going to PPV, Theres more and more cards being pumped out. They wont let fighters in on profits from the game. My respect for what UFC is doing is no longer growing. I used to be pure UFC, I am now keeping up with different promotions such as Strikeforce, DREAM, Sengoku, Affliction, etc.
by PRiME on Nov 19, 2008 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would like to hear more of the story before I make any judgements.
by WB on Nov 19, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I’d like to know if one of the parties was out of line.
Not enough info right now. I hate to say it, but Randy seemed like a baby after all the facts came out.
by Ben on Nov 19, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree. all the anti-ufc/dana haters are coming out in droves. 1/2 these names i dont even recognize. lets wait and see what happens. i think fitch will come to his senses as will all of aka. theres nothing out there that compares to the ufc. even if a promotion gives fitch more money and lets him keep his “likeness” he will never be able to pull in sponser money like he did with the ufc. and no one had better say it’s not about the money, b/c thats what this is all about. i wanna see all these haters names once Affliction folds and the ufc is the only major org left standing. these people say they want competiton for the ufc and that it is a good thing. what they really mean is that they are still pissed of about the ufc demolishing PRIDE FC and taking them out, and dont really care about competiton, they just want dana white and the ufc to fail. it always comes back to this, i can promise anyone that, when you see guys talking trash about the ufc and saying great things about joke orgs like elitexc and affliction, all they really are, are former PRIDE FANBOYS that cant deal with it. deal with it!
by b.w. on Nov 20, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets just wait and see what comes out….we dont know if that was the only reason. Fitch shouldnt have gone into a meeting to sign a fight agreement and then try to negotiate shit. There has to be more to it than that…
by Dayvet on Nov 19, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is total bull!!! The fighters need to get organized!! Like all the other major sports, the athaletes need to look out for themselves as their overlords just want to exploit them!!
by zanelewis on Nov 19, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yup, it is behavior like this that will bring about a fighter’s union.
by stevo on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will never happen… no way!
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Nov 19, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They don’t even need a union- they just need the fighters to refuse to be treated like cattle.
by Enniskillen on Nov 19, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol.
The problem is, there are a million people wanting to fight MMA and in the UFC.
And the guys in the org that aren’t huge names (even Roger Huerta found this out) are expendable.
I hate to say it, but Fitch is expendable.
And the UFC owns MMA until a real competitor comes along.
And the competitors are begining to realize just how HARD Dana works and promotes his stuff. he is a smart biz man.
by Ben on Nov 19, 2008 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This hurts no one but the fans. I think you’re totally right, but that doesn’t make it suck any less. We as fans are deprived of Jon Fitch’s presence. If he goes off to some crap org. trying to court viewers with a big name we might get to see him in a couple decent fights, but then what? We’re missing out as fans and that’s the bottom line. This crap has been going on for years, too. We’ve missed out on so many great fighters and the great match-ups because the UFC brass refuses to compromise on their greedy, hard-line megalomania. In the end it doesn’t do anything but hurt the fans and the fighters.
by Clayton on Nov 20, 2008 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dana wants mma to be mainstream: If that ever happens then the fighters will get a union going, just like other mainstream sports. WAR: FITCH
by BOW on Nov 20, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bj Penn is getting cut too, this is for real. You should hear in a few days. I hear he stuck his tongue out at Dana White so he’s getting cut.
by Brandon on Nov 19, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, retarded. But WoW to the Fitch news, talk about unexpected, over a video game . . .
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 19, 2008 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m kidding. I’m trying to illustrate the fact that the UFC cuts fighters for the most trivial reasons by using satire.
by Brandon on Nov 19, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, for a second when i first read ir i was like “wha!” But then i read the reason, well played.
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 20, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW – everybody just chill!!! There are two sides to every story. Plus, Fitch lost his title shot = gate keeper for the next year any way. Go sign some where else and get another pink slip by the middle of 2009!
by JTK5 on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who in their right mind is going to sign “lifetime” anything. You sign that leave the promotion in say 8 years and they keep you in the game but you have gone to another org and on to different things but they are still making money with your name and likeness. Absolute BS. You can’t just spring it on someone either you normally have to compensate someone for this kind of stuff and there is normally a length of time too. i.e. you sign a 5 fight 2 year deal and they can use you in the game for 2 years. But you get money for it cause it is in you contract.
by staples on Nov 19, 2008 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure the WWE has a merchandising agreement with its fighters, why is this so hard for the UFC to do? Give the fighters something instead of nothing and put the issue to rest. This could get ridiculous, just as the UFC was getting a lot of great press they allow something like this to happen. Talking about screwing the pooch from both ends.
by A Lynch on Nov 19, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, don’t mean to refer to WWE entertainers as fighters.
by A Lynch on Nov 19, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC can only get away with this kind of thing for so long.
Fighters will eventually get pissed off and leave in mass if they feel they’re collectively and consistently getting shafted.
by RHV on Nov 19, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stupid move by Fitch. What’s the use of keeping your own video game likeness rights if the UFC is the only one that is in a position to put you in a video game. After his performance against St Pierre he won a ton of new fans and he was set to become a major force in that division. Now he seriously has to start from scratch. There’s hardly any talent at WW outside the UFC besides Jake Shields
by Jye on Nov 19, 2008 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW!
FITCH WAS THE NUMBER 2 GUY AT 170 IN THE UFC AND PERHAPS THE WORLD CURRENTLY (OPINION)…
THIS IS A BIG LOSS FOR THE UFC, JOHN FITCH AND FANS!
But why wouldnt he want so sign!?
idk, someone please inform me….
by SoCalStunNa on Nov 19, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We don’t know how big the video game industry is going to get. The thing is booming as it is. I’m guessing he didn’t want to sign his whole video-game life over to the UFC.
Lets face it, the UFC video game contract was LIKELY TERRIBLE (This is the UFC we are talking about here, right?)
by Brandon on Nov 19, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HA we have the same name!
still tho Video Game vs Fighting in the UFC
by SoCalStunNa on Nov 19, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell can ya’ll have the same name? I could understand if it was Bill, Charlie or John but “SoCalStunNa” that is pretty random. Oh… now I get it you both are named Brandon. just jackin… sometimes I forget that I have an identity other than Psyqo78®™
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 19, 2008 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Complete bullshit! They want the Fighters to sign away their rights forever (exclusive, lifetime), but the UFC (Zuffa) would never sign away their rights, names, likeness, etc… This is more than Video Games and Action Figures – this is pure greed and Dana White has completely lost his mind.
Do NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL Athletes sign away their rights FOREVER to their respective League if they have Sports Merchandise with their names and likeness on them? Hell No they don’t!! The UFC wants MMA (Their Brand) to be the biggest Sport in the World??? This is not the way to do it.
A “Players Union” and a “Strike” would be great to show the UFC that they are NOTHING without their FIGHTERS, and us FANS will not be FANS without the best FIGHTERS.
I NEVER get this fired up, but this is the last straw. Fire Dana’s sorry ASS now and hire someone to be the face of the UFC who’s not a narcissistic bitch!! Dana has to go! I’ll never pay another dime to watch the UFC while Dana is their “Frontman”!!!!
by TheProfessor on Nov 19, 2008 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That maybe one of the best posts ive ever read on this site.Props man
by DBG on Nov 19, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure the Fertitas are pissed at Dana for turning the UFC into a cash cow LMAO.
by Pat on Nov 19, 2008 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who said anything about the Fertitas being pissed at dana
by DBG on Nov 19, 2008 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, as being part of the players union in those sports – they automatically sign over the rights to the union. The union is then compensated for usage rights in different games.
This is also the reason that head coaches didn’t show up in Madden for awhile until EA sports negotiated with the coaches association.
Plain and simple, the reason why UFC wants these lifetime rights is to protect themselves from lawsuits in continuing games. If the games are popular enough, they don’t want to have to go to the 100 or so guys every game to try to get rights again.
The other thing people keep forgetting is that the UFC has only been profitable for a year or two. Before that, they were 70 million in the hole. That 70 million doesn’t disappear as they are still having to pay off those creditors.
Until the UFC gets into a position where they don’t owe on anymore debt, they are going to have to play it close to the vest with the money. Zuffa has only owned the freaking thing for nine years. Amazon took about seven years to turn a profit and is STILL paying off debt.
Just be happy that the people behind the UFC actually have the business acumen to grow the sport for the future. Without a smart business hand at the helm, you get Elite XC (or even worse, our freaking mortgage crisis going on in the U.S.)
Before the UFC, the bulk of the fighters were making $500 a fight. Now, the lower level fighters are making around $5k just being on a card with the UFC.
by Jason on Nov 19, 2008 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything you wrote is a complete lie and total bullshit
by Dave on Nov 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, this is NOT something I’d expect to hear. I hope to get more info soon, because this horrible on the UFC’s part if it’s true.
by WebGarden on Nov 19, 2008 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What?!
The UFC is cutting one of it’s best Welterweights because he won’t sign his life away in a video game?
You’ve got to be KIDDING me!
That’s the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard.
I mean, we’ve all heard of stupid reasons for fighters being cut, but this one has to be the dumbest.
by Dredg on Nov 19, 2008 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UNIONIZE! Not just UFC fighters, but a collective there needs to be a collective MMA fighters union
by efisher on Nov 19, 2008 10:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dana White has completely lost his mind. That narcissistic mother&%$#@* needs to be committed and institutionalized. He’s completely certifiable . . . I’m done with him.
by TheProfessor on Nov 19, 2008 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is why we need another Pride aka Affliction.
by Khaos_Warrior on Nov 19, 2008 10:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
is no one else concerned about the bigger issue here? Christian fuckin Wellisch? NOOOO
by Amos on Nov 19, 2008 10:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UFC is creating a brand, and the sad fact is fighters like Jon Fitch are a dime a dozen. Where’s he really going to go? Affliction, who has no welterweight division to speak of? Strikeforce, no welterweights. The truth is UFC is the best company in the world holding the best welterweight fighters out there. Him leaving doesn’t hurt them a bit, and we’ll continue to buy pay-per views and they’ll continue to make money.
He gave us an amazing fight against GSP, but I could really careless that he’s gone. More fighters will emerge with or without him.
by Cool Hand Chad on Nov 19, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yet again the UFC pisses me off. If this week wasn’t enough, what with albino fatso being given the belt after 1 win in the promotion.
I’ve always been a fan of the UFC. But then again, i’ve always been a fan of MMA. The more fights i see, the happier i am. It doesn’t nessecerily have to be with the UFC. Throwing their toys out the pram because a fighter wouldn’t sign his identity away for LIFE?! what the hell? who do they think they are? Fitch is a wordclass contendor. I will watch him fight. MMA fans will watch him fight. If it’s not in the UFC then what a bunch of retarded fools they are. It’s about time there was a proper promotion that revised the dumb decisions the UFC makes and push the sport further. Viva La Affliction. yes Dana you bald, dumb fuck… it is a buisness well done. It’s also a sport. How do you spell FAIR?
by hector on Nov 19, 2008 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The sport is bigger than one fighter. The NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, all have lifetime contracts on their athletes images for the video games. What’s the damn difference? There is none. Because in the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL, they also know that athletes come and go, but the sport remains.
And what’s this “It’s time for a proper promotion to push the sport further?” Name me one company that could do more for the sport than the UFC? There are none.
Afliction? Ha ha ha ha. Affliction lives off the tattered careers of former UFC fighters and Fedor. They can’t even put on a good card. The first Affliction show was a joke, with no production value, shitty play-by-play, and terrible wastes of time like Megadeth playing every other fight.
I love Jon Fitch. He’s a hell of a fighter. But you can’t bite the hand that feeds you. I’ll watch him fight elsewhere, and he’ll dominate because no other organization has the type of competition at 170. Fitch fucked up. Plain and simple.
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by Cool Hand Chad on Nov 19, 2008 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude the albino fatso beat the champion…how is that giving him the belt? The one person that beat him in the UFC is getting the same chance as him, I think he’s a great contender and can possibly be a really great champion. I don’t like his personality that much but that’s irrelevant.
I don’t know how to feel about this stuff. On one hand it seems wrong to want to own someone’s likeness forever, but then again, why wouldn’t you want the best fight organization in the world to own your likeness? It would be different if ProElite wanted to do something like that, but you’re already in the UFC, where are you going to go?
by DoctorSamson on Nov 20, 2008 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they should never have fired him over that. That is forcing him and all others to sign over all the rights of there name and likeness forever. If they don’t want todo that they get fired? Bitch ass move UFC. Fitch welcome to Affliction where you will probably get a title shot right away.
by hatteras on Nov 19, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He would be the only welterweight…which I guess could be kind of like being the champion…
by DoctorSamson on Nov 20, 2008 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only UFC nuthuggers are ok with this bs……the funny thing is they come around saying that fedor doesnt come to the ufc because he is scared!!! hahaha whatever…
by William Blake on Nov 19, 2008 11:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who says Fedor is scared? I’d say I’m probably the biggest defender of the UFC, but I would never say Fedor was afraid to fight in the UFC. Or that he isn’t the number 1 HW fighter in the world. You probably saw one idiot make that remark, and now generalize every other UFC “nuthugger” as having the same opinion. WRONG.
As far as this story goes, I’m shocked. But, I’ll wait until all of the details come out to make my final judgement. Jake Shields is the only fight outside the UFC that would be a good fight for Fitch. And Shields will most likely end up in the UFC, too.
by R-Dizzle on Nov 19, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
R-Dizzle, Hate is blind….. they all think whoever defends The UFC is this and that when half the time they don’t even read what is actually said.
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 19, 2008 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT? How are they going to cut this guy? Fitch is an amazing welterweight. So much for wanting the best welterweights in the business.
by Goomba on Nov 19, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Man… I don’t normally post or even send complaint email, but I made a point of voicing my opinion to UFC on this one. You should all do the same.
by Tigger on Nov 19, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess it’s a matter of principal for Fitch? On the surface, I’m with Fitch. Why don’t they just leave the guy out of the video game? There’s got to be more to this story.
by MMACrossifre on Nov 19, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Way to go, Dana! If UFC keeps treating their fighters like this, a lot of fighters will eventually bolt.
by KAS on Nov 19, 2008 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what other mma organization is going to come up with a game… if he wants to get paid for the game that is a diffrent story but it would be stupid not to sign…. think about it like this… if the ufc has rights to him name and he somehow goes to another org.. UFC will either try to still add him to the ufc roster.. or they will not.. it comes down pretty much to money and i guess he feels he should be paid to be in the game…
by TexasBOY on Nov 19, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lets face reality.
There are NO other MMA organizations that are well run and profitable.
Dana worked/works his ass off to bring MMA and the UFC to its current position.
UFC makes the rules. I hate to say it, but just like if you have money in the stock market right now, you are F’ed.
As far as being in MMA and hoping to make money off of video games, you are F’ed.
Holding out WASTES Fitch’s career time (not everyone can fight until 45), and he will become less prominent.
If we learned anything from Roger Huerta, it is SHUT THE F’ up and take your paycheck and makes friends (worked for Forrest Griffin)… May you lose out on 50 or 100k? Maybe, but its worth it right now being in the UFC.
Later on you may be able to change organizations, but NOT right now. Afflcition? Dream? lol. Elite XC? lol
by Ben on Nov 19, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fuck man im realizing how two faced dana is in his blogs he says he cares for the fighters and the best fights well jon fitch is one of the best fighters and he certainly has put on some amazing fights but why does dana have to be a fuckin prick and cut fitch, obviously if he goes to a different org. or retires he doesnt want ufc making money off of him with him not getting a cut this just pisses me off i love ufc but we really need other promotions. the ufc wants to own the world well before you do that you have to learn that its not all bout the money, the fighters are what give you the money in the first place, and to treat them like shit is like a big fuck you to all the fans.
by Jared on Nov 19, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You don’t know that! Some people have pride, go get some benny!
by BOW on Nov 20, 2008 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What if other orgs or sports had this principal? say they sign the next f*cking Fedor and have his image for life in a game but then said fighter leaves said org or sport and Dana wants to sign them, but wait how can he sign a fighter that is essentially marketing another org? Think it wouldn’t happen if everyone sought image rights forever? A game yes. a series of figures yes but for-f*ckin-ever? No way
by sycboi on Nov 19, 2008 11:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone relax, quit blowing your wad over this, i am sure there is more than just signing for video game rights behind this for Fitch’s release. Honestly i’d like to hear what dana has to say about the situation. Im sure there is more to it that we dont know. And I do think that somehow if this is truly an issue that it will be resloved with Fitch back in the UFC. Fitch gained a whole new fan base with his fight against GSP
by See What Had Happend Was on Nov 20, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I would like to see the UFC fighters create a union so that fighters can’t be pushed around. El Matador & Couture need to push this more.
by DaneJa!260 on Nov 20, 2008 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man…Jon Fitch, is a BIG LOST…ufc will have to get him back! There must be more to this…
by HauAreYou on Nov 20, 2008 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
People are forgetting the real question. Why is Christian Wellisch playing games with his contract? You’d figure he would sign away his first born just to be kept around with an 8-4 record, 2-2 in the UFC.
by EazyEismydad on Nov 20, 2008 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why what did he make in his last fight? Around 8g and he fights 2 times a year. He’s making dollar store clerk wages. He may have wanted out of his contract.
by Timmy on Nov 20, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am surprised the UFC has a separate contract for this stuff. I would’ve thought they had enough lawyers to cover then when a fighter joins the UFC in the first place.
by JB on Nov 20, 2008 12:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
this is bullshit wtf fitch was my favorite fighter at welterwieght. the thing that sucks is the fighters need to make all the money they can now because they can only fight for so long dana white can promote till hes 70 fighters cant fight that long to support their familys.im sick of fighters being treated like expendable dolts like the ufc is a machine that uses fighters as gears and when one breaks down they replace it with a new one…dana did it to tito its starting to happen to liddell and now danas new sidekick is brock…and dana hates tito for standing up for himself..dana white has always said he wants fighters and not business men like couture or tito he wants guys that do what he says and that aint right
by foke mon on Nov 20, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fitch just got back from a month long training camp at Tiger Muay Thai in Phuket Thailand. I’m sure he was excited to get back into the UFC and show his new tools. Sucks that Ego’s are ruining the sport.
Curious what Swick, Kos, and the rest of the guys at AKA are going to do as well.
by Jason on Nov 20, 2008 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ESPN reports that “other AKA fighters may be released as well if they lose their upcoming fights”. I would assume this means Kos and Swick with their December fights. It looks like a camp vs. UFC. The AKA camp is really tight (and Christian Welliesch (sp?) is a lawyer) so they may be trying to put their foot down. Not a good outcome for them if they all get booted. I wonder how much a refusal to fight each other drove Dana White and the UFC to want to “clean up” a little??
by K Campbell on Nov 20, 2008 12:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well i’m going to hold judgement until the full story comes out from both sides because there is no clear confirmation yet. Also When Werdum got cut his name was immediately taken off the UFC website but fitch and wellisch’s names are still on the website so i’m still hoping that this isnt true like the rumor 1 month ago that stated that lesnar or couture were injured so the UFC 91 main event is off and we all know that one was false
by Jacob Camargo on Nov 20, 2008 12:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unless the consideration is very substantial (meaning lots and lots of money), it is never wise to just sign your rights away for an eternity. If a fighter does not agree then they should just fight for free and call it a day. Remember, retirement will happen sooner than later for a cage fighter.
This is a business and no sound business man or woman (i.e., the fighters) would ever do this. Pull out the calculator and do a little short and long term game theory analysis. The allegation of the UFC offering a “take it or leave it” contract is a common corporate bully tactic notwithstanding Fitch’s ranking.
by Wild Wild West on Nov 20, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
To sign over your rights for a life time is a little much but what if their pay was increased because of Video game rights?
Sign over your rights and earn more per fight.
by Calgary Real Estate on Nov 20, 2008 12:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
can you say greeedy mother fuc*&%! Dana does not not want to pay one penny in compensation to have them sign a lifetime contract to there video rights!!!!! That’s BULLSHIT!
by Jack Mehoff on Nov 20, 2008 12:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
damn right it is, Maybe ignorant fans can start to learn why randy walked away from the UFC.
Im happy to hear this would love to see fitch leave the UFC and get picked up by affliction looking forward to jan 24
by dia mette on Nov 20, 2008 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch is good, that’s undeniable, but I also thought he was boring as hell. His most exciting fight had him taking a pillow biting session by GSP.
As for the contract, business is business. It’s like getting pulled over for a DWI/DUI, if you deny a sobriety test, you’re presumed guilty. If you take it, you could be effed. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
by rockwell on Nov 20, 2008 1:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bad call from the UFC and Dana White. Jon Fitch and the fighters run the UFC without them there is nothing. Eventually these unfair actions will add up and I wouldn’t be surprise if an MMA Union starts to organize against these abrupt decisions by the UFC. Boys this is Monopoly 101.
by Andy on Nov 20, 2008 1:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who cares! Jon Fitch is really good, at being a punching bad. ;)
by Natas on Nov 20, 2008 1:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the story
A bitterly angry Dana White said Wednesday the Ultimate Fighting Championship has cut highly regarded welterweight contender Jon Fitch and is not going to do business with any fighters who are part of the American Kickboxing Academy team in San Jose, Calif.
The outspoken UFC president said shortly after landing in Hawaii on Wednesday that he no longer wants to work with AKA fighters or those represented by DeWayne Zinkin and Bob Cook.
White said he excepted AKA welterweight Mike Swick from that group because he said Swick called him and told him he wants to fight for the UFC. But Fitch and heavyweight Christian Wellisch were cut on Wednesday, and heavyweight prospect Cain Velasquez and welterweight Josh Koscheck could be next.
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"We’re looking for guys who want to work with us and not against us, and frankly I’m just so [expletive] sick of this [expletive] it’s not even funny," White said from Honolulu, where he flew Wednesday from Toronto to hold a news conference to announce the B.J. Penn-Georges St. Pierre fight for UFC 94 on Jan. 31 in Las Vegas.
by dualdiagnosis on Nov 20, 2008 1:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit, worst link job ever. Here’s the real one- http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AoPiFcHghlU7ghuKq6hnLb49Eo14?slug=ki-ufcakafeud111908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Kevin Iole
Velasquez, one of the sport’s rising stars, clearly is on the outs with White. White said Zinkin wanted standard language that is part of every UFC fighter’s contract removed from Velasquez’s deal.
"Can you believe that?" White said. "Chuck Liddell has that language in his contract. Randy Couture has it. Anderson Silva has it. And Cain [expletive] Velasquez, with two [expletive] fights, wants us to change it for him? That’s [expletive] nuts. He can get the [expletive] out.
"I’m not a douche bag and I do a lot for these guys, a lot more than any of you will ever know. We’re in a horrible time in the economy now, and every guy with two nickels to rub together is making a run at us. We’ve worked too hard, given too much, to let certain guys come in and [expletive] with that."
by dualdiagnosis on Nov 20, 2008 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again… UFC is a business. Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta didn’t put $60,000,0000 into buying and re-inventing the sport of mma to be pushed around and nickel and dimed by its fighters who wouldn’t even HAVE jobs had it not been for their efforts… in the UFC or any other organization.
Did EliteXC (or Affliction, HDNet Fights, Strikeforce, HFC, AFC WFA) have a video game? did they have a reality tv show? Did they have corporate sponsors like harley davidson or anheiser busch? NO. The sponsorship and advertising deals you get in the UFC are unparalleled by any other mma organization. Just ask Nate Quarry… he just got a deal with Nike shoes… Nike. He doesn’t even wear shoes in the octagon and he is FAR FROM the most recognizable or even popular fighter out there.
Bye Bye Jon Fitch… I liked you, respected you as a fighter but apparently you took one too many shots to the head in your fight with GSP, there is definitely some brain damage, thats the only logical explanation for you turning down a contract with the premier mma organization in the world. Fighting with UFC brass is a losing battle, just ask Couture.
See if you get any loyalties with Affliction, nevermind trying to make the same money u were making in the UFC. Enjoy your 50% off affliction t-shirts, thats the only incentive you’ll be enjoying there until the fold and u come crawling back begging for another shot in the UFC.
by ironfist_55 on Nov 20, 2008 2:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well then why don’t all fighters leave that bald headed wannabe ganster’s promotion! F**K YOU dANA YOU’RE A egocentric moron! why don’t you and you’re rich friends step into the octagon and fight and we’ll see what happens.. take the wallet out of your as* and pay the fighters what they deserve.. he’s trying to hustle every fighter there is except for Chuck Liddell and when someone says no he goes insane!
by RoB on Nov 20, 2008 3:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What ABUSE!!!! Fitch should be congratulated for standing up against cheap ass bosses…Dana is so desperate to make UFC more attractive to buyers because of station casinos fall and the bad economy…so he’s desperately seeking new york accreditation and making crazy ad that says its trashing football and basketball…and now getting pissed because of a video game…
by nam on Nov 20, 2008 4:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I happen to agree with dana on this one….Why not just sign for the video game if it was that simple? They obviously straight up told him he would be released if not…so he basically chose to leave. FUCK FITCH
by JONFITCHSUCKS on Nov 20, 2008 5:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i wonder how much brock lesnar got for signing for this game and it makes you wonder if all other fighter even got anything
by joe on Nov 20, 2008 6:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is obviously not just about a computer game… Fitch will have been asked to sign his rights over on EVERYTHING… The computer game is purely circumstantial
by Oskarbravo on Nov 20, 2008 7:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
UFC wants these fighter to sing a lifetime contract…? wow…those a major major words…. lifetime contract.
by Anlienq on Nov 20, 2008 7:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dana White is a piece of shit. He says he doesnt want mma to turn into boxing but he comes off as being cut from the same cloth as all these other garbage boxing promoters. He says he’s done all these great things for fitch but I hope realizes he hasnt put his life on the line the way the fighters do every time they fight for his promotion.
by ugly on Nov 20, 2008 7:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love it! I hope Affliction picks up these other fighters. We need another power player in the MMA world! There’s no balance in power! Plus, I hate waiting so long in between big matchups. Sounds crazy, but, maybe one day UFC can play nice with others and coproduce matchups with fighters from other organizations more regularly. Like when Lidell fought Rampage over in Pride.
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Nov 20, 2008 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is so stupid. Dana better make this right.
by Jake on Nov 20, 2008 11:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow! This is not a good move for Dana and the UFC. Releasing fighters like Fitch will help promotions like Affliction grow and be successful. The UFC is not taking care of their fighters like they should. They are greedy as hell!
by LJ on Nov 20, 2008 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck This is more bullshit from the UFC and Dana, and for all you cockeaters saying there would be no MMA if it werent for Dana, fuckin pull your head out of your asses. Pride was already on its way to being the premier promotion when Dana was still licking sweat off of his aerobics students an tryin to be a damn boxin promoter, the UFC was alredy on its way to exploding, if Dana hadnt bought it, believe me, someone else would have and was about too before Dana hopped on the deal. They bought Pride to just shut it down and lied to the previous owners which is why that is still being disputed in COurts. Dana is a sack of shit plain an simple. Sure the last few years hes tried to build up the UFC not MMA but his bullshit tactics far out wiegh anything good he;s done. This just confirms it. Hell Penn, Couture, AA all have left at one time or another do to the insane contracts., and Fedor will never sign one. Obviously theres more to the story but I have to side withthe fighters on this one. An fuck Swick too, grabbed righton to Danas nuts an aint letting go…
by chiggs on Nov 20, 2008 12:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s obvious what is going to happen. Just like the Owners in MLB and the NFL that kept dicking their players, pretty soon the players will realize what kind of power they have: UNION!!!
Ain’t nobody paying $55 a PPV to see Dana White in his sportcoat. It’s all about the fighters. If Dana and even the defunct EliteXC and the others are screwing their fighters, insulting them in public, and pushing lifetime deals that pretty much NO BUSINESS really does anymore, the fighters will soon realize their power and unionize. We’ll probably see a work stoppage as well.
The MMA fighters will go the way of the NFL and become free agents and it will eventually look like boxing, where you could fight for any agency.
Anyone who wasn’t too busy looking at the teachers’ breasts in 10th grade history will know how the formula works in ALL industries. MMA will be no different.
by don on Nov 20, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You are 100% correct! And when this happens, I believe the Fertitas and Dana will have a big falling out!
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Nov 20, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The older nfl guys just won a lawsuit to get paid for their names being used. The nfl didn’t get the money, the players did! Really starting to hate dana! Still need to hear all the facts, but hes just a dick!
by BOW on Nov 20, 2008 4:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dana White is getting to be really full of himself. This is not a good way to run a business. He wants to be in control of everything and if he doesn’t it’s his usual response…**** them! haha..Mr. White Calm your ass down and stop pretending your Don King..Pay these guys what they are worth..We buy you’re ppv’s and we these guys make those cards exciting..sometimes more than the Main Events…I don’t care for Affliction but I hope it succeeds so that guys have were to go and give the UFC some competition…Tito Ortiz should have kicked your A**!
by TheTruth on Nov 20, 2008 10:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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