BJ Penn video: 'I should be the best pound for pound' if I beat Georges St. Pierre at UFC 94
Note that Penn also adds that if St. Pierre beats him, "Rush" should be crowned the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world.
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let’s not get carried away BJ, you guys are fighting for the bronze. the winner of GSP/Penn should be considered the 3rd best P4P fighter in the world.
by horny for mma on Nov 14, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree… that’s kind of a stretch there.
by Reldeed on Nov 14, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“This isn’t the Ultimate Takedown”
LOL
by ViolentMike on Nov 14, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I like that too mike. I was saying it the other day, mmarated does the BEST interviews man! I understand this is a radio station, but I really wish mania would do live interviews and not the written ones! You’re in vegas right mania??
by kevin on Nov 14, 2008 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im not sure what to make of this comment. Bronze? This isn’t boxing. Just because they’re lighter, doesn’t mean that there weight class is not as good as the heaviewr ones. If anything, WW and LW are the two most exciting divisions in MMA.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep – Fedor can beat guys 100lbs heavier than him
And Silva – he can beat anyone (except Fedor)
by Anger Jack on Nov 14, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Fedor is great too, but beat “guys” 100 lbs. heavier than him? HMC is 1 guy, and he is a can. I would be far more impressed if he beats Arlovski in his next fight than I was when he beat HMC. As far as bigger guys go, I would like to see how Fedor would do against guys like Carwin and Lesnar. “Choi” is just basically Japanese for “Sapp”.
by naturalshadow on Nov 15, 2008 3:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is an overrated commie who fights nothing but cans
by prophet on Nov 14, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude your a tool, Fedor is the best has beaten the best and will always be no.1. Anderson Silva 2nd then GSP because he is far better than what BJ will ever be!!!!!
by MMAKilla on Nov 14, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor hasn’t beaten Couture or Lesnar so there’s no way he can be considered #1.
by prophet on Nov 15, 2008 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and he’s beaten virtually every other significant Heavyweight outside the UFC except Josh Barnett, who destroyed Randy. Beating Lesnar today won’t prove anything even for couture because the guy is just beginning his MMA career.
by liukangstoupee on Nov 15, 2008 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we don’t have to worry about it cause he’s not gonna beat GSP !
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Nov 14, 2008 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOLOLOLOL, When I’m on his back AND mounted ? LOL wow, That’s pretty funny, that’s not gonna happen.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Nov 14, 2008 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it does happen, B.J. better finish the fight, or he is screwed.
by naturalshadow on Nov 15, 2008 3:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA thats funny. After winning a couple of fights 155 (Jens, Sherk, Joe Daddy) and beat a guy who you lost to recently makes you best p4p? Your record is 12-4, how could you merit a p4p number 1 spot? He has #1 P4P potential, but no work ethic. Win 7-8 fights in a row against top contenders, and then we will consider giving you spot over Fedor or Anderson.
by John on Nov 14, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BJ is not the same fighter today as he was back when he was fat and 200 lbs fighting and losing to Machida. Those days are long behind the new focused BJ Penn. BJ’s family is very rich, hence, he is rich. He does not NEED to fight. He does it for the pure fun of it.
Lost my track of thought, someone asked me a question here…
BJ would hold titles in two weight divisions. That is something that ONLY Hendo has done, and that was in PRIDE, not UFC. If BJ pulls off a win over GSP, he can make the BEST arguement for being the #1 lb for lb fighter. Which in turn is the problem, best lb for lb fighter is simply an arguement and that is all it ever will be. Everyone’s opinion of best lb for lb differs.
BJ WOULD hold two title in the UFC in two different wieght divisions.
Fedor is a HW that has never TRUELY been beaten and often fights fighters much larger than himself.
Anderson Silva cleaned out his division like no other.
Arguements can and will be made for any of the 3 above fighters to be #1 lb for lb. The only way we will get an answer is if/when two of those 3 above fighters lose a fight. Then who ever remains unbeaten from this point forward is #1 lb for lb in my eyes.
by ViolentMike on Nov 14, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree VM…even if he has 12-4 record….check out the dudes his faught….75 to 85% of them have been to top 10 fighters in different weight classes and the the remaining 15% hell…they are all high profile if not top 10. LOOK im not the biggest BJ penn fan..i dont hate they guy but let be real here….Joe daddy/sherk…top of their division right now. they look like shitty fighter to you John but lets put this in perspectice…BJ is sterting to clean out 155 in the same fashion A. silva did in middle weight, even better 155 is 10 times more stacked then MW.you should know better bro! your the one of the smarter dudes in here. VM has very many valid points john. in your eyes the may not seem as viable opponents to make him the fighter he is. but in reality any one who has wins currently over these guys…is on hell of a top athelete
by santiago69us on Nov 14, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Silva didn’t have that warped view of Machida as the rightful LHW champ, Silva could very easily hold the 185 and 205 titles too. Penn deserves to be in any P4P discussion, but I still think Spider and Fedor are ahead of him.
by PW on Nov 14, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t nkow about easily hold twon titles for anderson, maybe but we really haven’t seen him fight any of the top 205 guys.and at mw the only two guys that i consider great fighters that he beat are dan and rich.
by roy on Nov 14, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just so u guys know, that was not the real JOHN that made the above post. bJ penn is a God in my eyes. Top 3 pound for pound fighter for sure.
Mania., cant u add a feature that ensures no ones has the same name on this site?
by john on Nov 14, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BJ vs Urijah fight should determine #3 spot
by Anger Jack on Nov 14, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Urijah is not top 5 P4P. Just check the level of competition he has faced. Miguel Torres should be ahead of him.
by NameNotRequired on Nov 14, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where does Urijah come from? did i just imagine him getting knocked out the other night or did you just not know to say he should be number 3 ahead of G.S.P is RIDICULOUS!
by Breton on Nov 14, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So beating Hughes twice, Koscheck, Fitch, Karo, Sherk, Miller, Trigg, Heiron, Serra AND your man Penn doesn’t make a case ?
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Nov 14, 2008 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The winner of this fight MUST be considered the best p4p fighter. They are the only two guys willing to put everything on the line against an opponent who is an equal. Fedor and Silva have yet to do that.
by Phil from Quebec city on Nov 14, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell is equal to Silva? He destroyed Franklin twice, who is a top 5 fighter at 185 or 205. He destroyed Henderson, who held the 185 and 205 belts simultaneously in Pride. And Fedor has beaten everyone who’s anyone in Pride, multiple times on some occasions. If you penalize because neither actually has an equal then you are either high or dumb.
by PW on Nov 14, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might be high, but I think there are some figths for him in the LHW division: Machida, Forrest Griffin, Rampage…
Another possible opponent: GSP, if he wins is next fight…
by Phil from Quebec city on Nov 14, 2008 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor needs to fight Randy Couture!
by Phil from Quebec city on Nov 14, 2008 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed the interview. BJ was pretty respectful (for BJ). He does seem really focused. I like the point that Phil from Quebec City makes. The two of them are putting it on the line. It’s not to say that the others wouldn’t, but at least they’ve made it happen.
by Shadyone33 on Nov 14, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“Phil from Quebec City” LOL
Was that a joke at Phil, or is that what you thought his name was? Just curious… Its PhilQNY and I think it stands for Queens, New York – although, I may be wrong too, but in know he’s a New Yorker.
What up PHIL!!!!!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Nov 14, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOLOL, maybe if I would have looked up just a tad….
LOL.
That’s what I get for having such a small window open…
MY BAD!
by ViolentMike on Nov 14, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI – The small window is adjusted so that it looks like I am “previewing” an email in my inbox, but I’m actually here…
Tip for you inexperienced web users at work!
by ViolentMike on Nov 14, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how are both fighters putting everything on the line? GSP is putting his title on the line, Penn has nothing to lose, also silva had an easy weight class to defend, aside from hendo who was doing good and got caught, silva’s awesome but i wanna see him fight penn or gsp then that should settle some arguments
by fighter879 on Nov 14, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Penn is putting it on the line by leaving his comfort zone and moving up a weight division and asking to fight someone who already beat him. He could just stay in the light weight division and beat up everyone there but he choose to test himself by taking a fight in which he’ll be the underdog. That’s how he’s stepping up and putting it on the line.
GSP is stepping up by fighting a guy who almost beat him and of course, by putting his title on the line. And also by accepting a challenge from someone outside of his weight class.
Both are great pound for pound fighters and whoever wins will get my vote for best lb – 4 – lber. Just my opinion.
by Kdog on Nov 15, 2008 2:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
out of that entire 15 minute interview the only thing you heard was that one sentence . . . Just listen and learn something tools!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 14, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
refering to “him being the best P4P if he wins” and ViolentMike is spot on!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 14, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If either, I’d say they should be second, Anderson Silva still is the most dominant of the champions.
I don’t think Fedor has had enough fights recently to beat them out.
Also don’t forget if BJ wins he’s is 1-1 with GSP.
I bet UFC hopes BJ wins because they can make a 3rd tie breaker between those two.
by ShaiZ on Nov 14, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they won’t…Alves will get a title shot first
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
word. And they would have the only multi champ at this time in BJ. George fights a fight or two and by the time its time for “Ultimate 2009” the 3rd bout will be set. If not, BJ fights Florian, maybe Sherk again, or Huerta, the ufc should get Gomi and Nick Diaz in the 155 div, id rather see bj fight those two more than any other current ufc LTWTs, we know what would happen with Gomi but at least its better than bj/kenny “pray for a cut” Florian. It will kind of suck really, i want bj to move on to bigger fights than the LTWT div has to offer. BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 14, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If BJ wins——> I bet Alvez gets a title shot while George fights Sanchez for #1 contender spot and the bj/gsp3 will be the main event at “Ultimate 2009” if both win their fights to the their contenders. Next year i think we see BJ/GSP at end of Jan to start the year, then BJ/Florian at begining of April (BJ then relinquishes his LTWT strap), next is BJ/Alvez around roughly July 4th (while George fights Diego at same time, if not already), then BJ/GSP3 Dec 27 2009 for the WLWT strap!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 14, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see BJ keep both belts and fight 4 or 5 times a year. He said he wants to be known as the best ever, so lets see it. I know he can if he sets his mind to it.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, if BJ does beat GSP, I don’t know if he’ll be able to take Alves. Alves has WAY better striking than GSP, and excellent takedown defense. That fight will stay on the feet until someone is rocked, because neither man would be able to take down the other. I know BJ has an iron chin and a pumpkin head, but he hasn’t been hit by anyone that hits as hard as Alves. I think Alves will be his toughest challenge in his career. I’m one of the biggest BJ fans you’ll ever see, but I’m also objective and a realist. I think Alves poses alot more problems for BJ than GSP (or anyone else at WW for that matter). That said, I’ll be pulling for BJ until the end of time!
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should ask Fitch if Alves has WAY better striking than GSP, or if it really MATTERS. This is MMA not boxing.
by Gord on Nov 21, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The main point is IF!Because he is not going to beat GSP,unless GSP comes in like he did against Serra the first time ,so i guess he is basically saying that he is going to lose to the best p4p fighter,but I would say that they are fighting for the number 3 spot,but after this fight is over I would like to see GSP move up to 185 and test his luck with Anderson.Then and only then would GSP have a right to that title.I don’t care what anybody thinks ,that would be very entertaining to watch
by scott on Nov 14, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also, GSP has redeemed all his losses; just like Fedor. I think GSP deserves to be in this P4P category moreso than BJ.
by JB on Nov 14, 2008 4:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think BJ has to beat George to be in the P4P conversation seriously. Til then, even on my list (which is very BJ bias list) regardless of where Fedor and Ando fall on my list George is still in front of BJ, til BJ corrects history on Jan 31st, George has the ball in his court til then. But both are right next to each other on every ones list im sure, thats what makes this fight so great, its not like either one is some shmuck that doesnt deserve this chance to settle up, its amazing.
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 14, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn – I just may have to buy that PPV now – who else is on that card?
by Anger Jack on Nov 14, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Machida vs Thiago Silva and Karo vs Dong Hyun Kim is the only ones I know off the top of my head.
by pUniSHment on Nov 14, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anger Jack = Casual Fan…lol. No offense Jack, but no matter what the UFC says, this is the biggest fight in UFC history, and even if the rest of the card sucks, it will be worth the price by itself. Any fan should already know this. I am looking forward to this one WAY more than UFC 91 tomorrow. UFC 92 is also gonna be way better than 91.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JB, THOSE WHERE LOSES IN THERE OWN WEIGHT CLASS. BJ HAS ONE LAST TO MACHIDA AT 205 LB.HOW MANY OF THOSE GUYS HAVE FOUGHT IN THREE WEIGHT DIVISIONS AND HAVE BEEN A CHAMP IN TWO. AND I HAVE TO SAY IT HE WASN’T TRAINING LIKE HE SHOULD MOST OF HIS CAREER.
by WHATSUP on Nov 14, 2008 5:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I notice a lot of people don’t really know just how close Penn’s fight with Machida was. For anyone who can watch it, I recommend you do.
by pUniSHment on Nov 14, 2008 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i watched it. it was close. i would’nt recommend it. it was a very boring fight.
by b.w. on Nov 14, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was that your first time watching machida or something?
by The Anomaly on Nov 14, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love watching that fight because it’s one of the few times you see a smaller man pushing the action for 5 rounds.
by Kdog on Nov 15, 2008 3:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bj already is top 3 p4p after he beats gsp i think he could have that #1 spot
by brad on Nov 14, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is 28-1 his only loss was due to a cut and came back and TKO’d that guy. He has beaten big Nog, Cro Cop, Mark Coleman twice, Heath Herring, Kevin Randalman, Fujita, Tim Silvia in 36 seconds and 20 other guys. Fedor has also won almost all of them by submission only like 3 or 4 went the distance he he won all of the unaimously. Anderson Silva and Penn have quality wins but they also have 4 losses each.
Fedor is the best period.
by hatteras on Nov 14, 2008 5:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The P4P thing is jsut a matter of debate. Sherdog lists it, b \ut it is no way “official”. If you took Fedor, and shrunk him down to a 155lb scale of what he is, he wouldn’t be the fighter he is at HW. P4P is not a designation of who’s the top champion in their respective division. I know it sounds alot alike, but its not the same thing. It will continue to be a topic of debate forever, because there is no true way to measure it.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean Fedor has only finished 1 top 10 guy (Sylvia)and the rest of his wins against top guys have been decisions. You do know 15 of those 28 wins were against cans and he has 7 decision wins, not 3 or 4. Fedor has only fought about 6 top 10 guys.
by Gord on Nov 14, 2008 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA Number 1 my ass!!! No way in hell his number 1…. thats what he thinks!!!! oh Well keep dreaming fat boy…. GSP will murder your ass coming dis January… Penn will get smashed by GSP…. no way in hell he can keep up with the Rush.. Haha that guy that was asking question dont know what his talkin about.. Rush All The WAY!!!!
by St. Amour on Nov 14, 2008 6:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when the juvenile fans that can’t spell get on here and post ridiculous comments. GSP will not win this by landslide, no matter what. I bet you thought Kimbo Slice was the best fighter ever before he got KTFO’d by Petruzelli too.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear GSP has the most sensitive fans in MMA. It’s kinda pathetic.
by pUniSHment on Nov 14, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Both have lost recently. At least Anderson’s losses were years ago and both of those were kind of BS. GSP got KTFO hard and BJ has lost a lot in proportion to how few fights he’s had.
by EazyEismydad on Nov 14, 2008 7:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on the Okami fight. Okami was getting tooled until Silva got DQ’ed. As far as the Chonan fight, what can you say, Silva got caught. The fight that really stands out to me is Silva’s loss to Daiju Takase in PRIDE. Silva got completely owned on the ground. It seems that he has problems with smaller fighters with good BJJ. That’s why I believe Penn would pose a threat to Silva. I know the Takase fight was years ago and Silva has huge improvements since than, but a Anderson Silva vs BJ Penn fight facinates me.lol
by pUniSHment on Nov 14, 2008 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but apparently it doesn’t fascinate Dictator Dana…lol
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When you say both, do you mean all 4 of Silva’s loses?
by Gord on Nov 14, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All of BJ’s losses are too champions – Jens Pulver – former lw champ, Matt Hughes- former ww champ, and GSP- current ww champ except for Machida who will probably be lhw champ. And he’s defeated 2 of the 4 as well. Anybody can have 30+ wins if you fight tomato cans. When you’re constantly fighting the best youre bound to have some losses.
by Kdog on Nov 15, 2008 3:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People don’t seem to realize what pound for pound means, right off the bat, I’ll say flat out the heavy weight and light heavyweight division and middle weight division is lame in comparison to the welter weight and light weight division. Can you imagine a 5’8 silva or fedor fighting at 155?, I bet penn would destroy them and I bet gsp would lose too. I honestly believe the competition at all the classes above welter weight are weak, fedor has fought so many cans in his career and silva is the best striker period in mma and few really try to take him down. All things being equal the bigger fighter will win, at least most of the time. I think the pound for pound list is deceiving, like I said I believe middle to heavy weight division is weak and the welter weight to lightweight are stacked with some of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, which tends to screw up a good fighters resume.
by nathan on Nov 14, 2008 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well said. I posted a similar comment in response to another, before scrolling all the way down and reading this one. Kudos Nathan.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 14, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post Nathan. The thing is, people make the arguement that Fedor is good pound for pound cuz he has fought opponents like 100 pounds larger than himself. Well ya know what, once you get up that big, they are just not built right to fight anymore, their proportions are off and Fedor has a huge advantage, not to mention all thier weight is probably not nearly as healthy as the larger opponents lets say Penn is facing.
Fedor might have faced and beaten some opponents that were 150% his wieght, just like Penn did in fighting Machida, but do you think that huge korean dude, or goodridge, or sammy stilt or whatever, could handle their own weight like Machida can handle his? Do you think they had the same balance, coordination, as machida? Not a chance. Penn is facing larger opponents, that can handle themselves very well on top of that. Fedor’s larger opponents can not say the same. That is why I put more emphasize on smaller fighters fighting bigger fighters, than bigger fighters fighitng humungo fighters. Bottom line, it is harder to be best P4P being a HW, then it is being a LW, their are harder ways to really test it at HW.
What does everybody think?
by The Anomaly on Nov 14, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree. Also, usually big guys dont have to know how to fight. They can usually get by with size and strength. Smaller guys tend to have to be more skilled by necessity. That’s pretty much the whole point of martial arts- giving a smaller person a chances to defend themselves against a physically bigger, stronger opponent.
by Kdog on Nov 15, 2008 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GSP!!! GSP!!!! BJ Penn over-rated!!!
by St. Amour on Nov 14, 2008 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love these BJ/GSP threads…can we have an instant rematch???
by kevin on Nov 14, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
GSP lost the stand up cuz he got poked in the eye early in the fight and took damage cuz of it, mainly to his nose…if that didn’t happen I think the stand up is a lot closer than people think. GSP has better wrestling and cardio..BJ is supposed to have better BJJ, but it wasn’t apparent in their first fight he didn’t even get close to a submission….doubt his BJJ will be a factor in this fight either since GSP has improved his BJJ a lot since they last fought….And about BJ’s comment on mounting GSP and taking his back….well he never got close to that in the first fight…don’t see how he would do it in this one….I think this fight will be a war, but GSP will win for sure….oh and I agree THIS fight is the biggest in UFC history…..SCREW the Couture vs. Lesnar fight (I will still watch it though!), the only reason he is fighting for a title is cuz of $$$$$$….Brock doesn’t deserve a shot, he dry humped Heath for 3 rounds…oh yeah and he landed one big right and that was about it…..that fight was boring
by savage on Nov 14, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is my pound for pound list if they weighed the same, meaning same weight with same body fat percentage.
1.penn
2.gsp
3.fedor
4.silva
gsp would still be the most athletic and the best wrestler
penn the hardest striker with his hands and by far the best grappler on the ground and on his back.
fedor equally good in all areas and most well rounded.
anderson the best striker all around.
I believe anderson looks like such a monster at 185 because he is a huge 185 lbs fighter and walks around at 210 or more and is 6’2 with a huge reach advantage. His striking is extremely advanced and accurate he never wastes his shots, and to be frank the 185lb division sucks other than henderson. I still think a good wrestler with good striking and the same size as silva like fedor could beat him, but If fedor kept it standing silva would definitely win. Being the biggest gsp nut hugger around I also realize his only real advantage over penn in there first fight was strength and cardio. This up coming fight should be very interesting and with out a doubt will be the biggest test of each fighters careers, or will it, you never know with this sport gsp could kick penns ass or vice versa, anything can happen.
by nathan on Nov 14, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like I said I’m a big gsp fan and hope he wins, and even if he does it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s pound for pound better than penn, gsp is an average middle weight and a large welter weight were penn is an average light weight. Same if gsp fought silva and lost it doesn’t mean silva is better pound for pound he out weights gsp by about 30Lbs like gsp out weights penn and is 4" taller than gsp, I think the odds would be definitely in andersons favor as he would have to take silva down for 5 rounds and there’s a very good chance of him getting caught in the stand up. To be honest I think alves is going to be the toughest test of gsps career if gsp gets past penn. Alves is huge and is a big middle weight, I really don’t know how he makes weight and his kicks and knees are brutal. I have no doubt gsp will have a great game plan and hope he wins but I know the fight could go either way, he really needs to up his mai thai as I’m sure he win, gsp needs to worry about his own division before he thinks about silva.
by nathan on Nov 14, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do know anything about BJJ? Bj might not of been going for subs but totally tied up GSP on the ground, hence how little damage he suffered. While I think GSP won the last fight and respect him a great deal, I don’t think he’ll win this one.
by parks1 on Nov 14, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes I do know a thing or two about BJJ parks1, I train under the Brazilian Top Team banner….tying up GSP and not taking damage doesn’t win a fight…this is not a grappling match, this is MMA….everyone talks about BJ’s BJJ like he submitted GSP or something…he didn’t, and he didn’t even get close to a submission…or taking his back or mounting him. You’re right about the damage part, but that is only one side of the coin. Judges don’t look at damage taken or damage avoided as part of the scoring…
by savage on Nov 14, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it’s not a takedown contest either man!! BJ can out box and out BJJ GSP anyday of the week! GSP can take anyone down, but it’s a pussy point war and no one wants to see that!
by kevin on Nov 14, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I don’t like watching people like Gray Maynard and Anthony Johnson fight. They do nothing with their takedowns.
by pUniSHment on Nov 14, 2008 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If avoiding damage was a criteria for scoring, then why didn’t Kalib Starnes win against Nate Quarry? He did a good job of avoiding damage on the feet too by running away….LOL
by savage on Nov 14, 2008 10:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To be honest I know what BJ is saying….a win against GSP means Penn just beat the best fighter in another weight class but Anderson or Fedor can’t say that becuase there is no 185 pound GSP or a heavyweight GSP. Not agreeing with him but an agrument can be made.
by Robert on Nov 14, 2008 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been saying for a while, Fedor could fight at 205 and have plenty of bigger match ups!!
by kevin on Nov 14, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LHW is actually a tougher division for anyone that can cut that far. I think thats why Crocop didnt want to drop, and why Vera has had such a shitty time at 205.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 15, 2008 4:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love reading all the agruments—it just gets me more excited about the fight. I think after it’s said and done, BJ’ll earn the win. I just hope the fight lives up the hype…
by Dayman Fan on Nov 15, 2008 12:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Attention Everyone, This is the biggest fight in UFC history right here. Whoever win’s this bout will set up endless possiblities throughout both divisions. If GSP win’s then I see a potential showdown with Alves or quite possibly The Spider. We all know what a Mega fight that would between GSP and Silva. If Bj wins, then he becomes the only person in the UFC to hold 2 straps at one time. That sets up tons of match ups for Bj at 155 and at 170. If he does win then im sure his first title defence will be against Alves. I do not see them putting Bj against the Spider if he wins. No disrespect to Bj, i just dont think it will happen. Also it sets up plenty of 155 bouts with a possible rematch with Sherk or Daddy, or quite possibly a match with Florian. I’d love to see a Bj vs Sherk part 2, im sure alot of yall disagree, but i think that was a great fight, Penn def showed his world class striking against Sherk, but Sherk’s striking wasnt bad either. I really wanted too see it go to the 5th round. Bj got him with the knee and the rest is history. So yes this is the biggest fight in the UFC’s history, not only because of the match up, but also because of what it will unfold in the future for the UFC, after this fight is over with. Damn i feel like im typing a novel here, sorry guys/girls. Anyway my prediction for this fight is a very sound 2 round war, with it being razor thin, and in the 3rd round Bj trying to go for something out of the ordinary and getting caught with a solid shot to the side of his face, i dont know if its leg or punch and being rocked, not dropped but rocked, and GSP taking advantage of it, taking Bj to the ground, Bj giving his back and GSP with a RNC. Bj lovers im sure you will disagree, especially AdamG, but good luck to Bj and GSP. Hopefully its not a lackluster fight
by See What Had Happend Was on Nov 15, 2008 12:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, I think BJ would have a much harder time with Alves than Anderson Silva. I say that because Alves’s takedown defense is much better than that of the Spider. Silva’s been known to struggle against smaller opponents with good BJJ. Don’t get me wrong. Silva is a excellent fighter, but if the fight goes to the ground I could see Penn ending the fight with a submission. Alves on the other hand has superb striking power. Not saying that Penn can’t defeat Alves, but IMO it would be a bit harder than Anderson Silva. No intended disrespect to Anderson Silva either.
by pUniSHment on Nov 15, 2008 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well i guess i dont have to watch the fight anymore…and ill bet you a billion dollars that that doesnt happen
by --utaptout-- on Nov 15, 2008 4:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YAP,YAP,YAP, and YAP.Are you a female? So much YAPPING, they should put a limit on the amount of words (YOU) can type.WTF that’s a lot of crap.
by WESTSIDE/OAHU on Nov 18, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL “see what had happend was” you must be the real nosterdumbass!!!! Are you psychic? I hope your prediction comes true gsp, choking out penn LOL I would laugh my ass off, I could just imagine the looks on not only the penn nut huggers face but pretty much everyone. I really would feel sorry for penn if that happened I think he would either commit suicide or the sport all together, the scenario did make me chuckle.
by nathan on Nov 15, 2008 1:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with some who think Fedor ‘maybe’ top lbs for lbs. But not Silva. The only 2 top contenders he has beaten are Hendo and Franklin. Let’s face it the Middleweight division sucks.
by DrHarry on Nov 15, 2008 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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