UFC 94 poster for 'St. Pierre vs. Penn 2' Jan. 31

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LET THE PENN LOVING BEGIN!!! GSP via domination in every aspect of the fight! After this fight, I hope BJ finally realizes he needs to stay at 155!
by JV on Nov 11, 2008 9:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As a fan of BJ and a GSP hater, I kind of agree. I don’t see “GSP via domination in every aspect of the fight!”, but I do believe that “BJ finally realizes he needs to stay at 155!”
GSP is a large WW. When BJ works out as he should and has been, he is an average sized LW. Skill wise, they are both top notch in every aspect of the game, I don’t need to get into that, everyone knows it. GSP gets the nod in wrestling and Penn the nod in BJJ. It is all going to come down to how BJ adds his weight. If he does it properly, he will weigh 168 – 170 the day of the fight, but GSP will be outweighing him by at least a dozen pounds, and thats of pure muscle. No doubt GSP has strength advantage, but on the ground, that will be neutralized by BJ’s flexibility and BJJ.
I really want to see BJ win this fight and I believe that he CAN do it, but I see him getting beat in this fight more times than not. GSP will for sure be the betting favorite, but by how much? No lines on BetUS yet, havent checked anywhere else though. Very interested in the opening lines. GSP at -150 or better would be ideal. BJ would have to be a +200 dog for me to put money on him in this fight though. (My accounts been dwindling from football – JOHN – should have listened to you…)
Also, what does everyone think that chances of this fight going the distance are? Can BJ go 5 rounds with GSP? We already know GSP can go 5 rounds, and go hard for every round.
Overall, my heart says BJ but my brain tells my GSP. Who do I listen to?
I look forward to seeing some replys and responses…
by ViolentMike on Nov 11, 2008 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike, I agree mostly with you except that you said BJ is an average sized LW. He made Joe Daddy look little, and Joe is a pretty good sized guy, albeit compact. I think BJ is probably bigger than Florian and Huerta too.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BJ is by no means a small LW, But there are some monsters in the LW divsion, such as Gleison Tibau and Gray Maynard, even Hermes Franca. I’m sure there are more, but I gotta go grab breakfast… Plus WW’s often move down to LW making them larger sized LW’s.
Tibau make Stevenson look like a Bantomwieght in that fight.
by ViolentMike on Nov 11, 2008 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a great analysis Mike, agree on every point.
I want BJ to take it and hope that he can but just think GSP will be too big and too strong for him.
I suppose its good for the UFC if GSP wins as well because otherwise the L/W title will loose its value if BJ chucks it in.
by Nick J on Nov 11, 2008 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think BJ stack up with Gleison about the same. And Franca is only 5’6", and BJ is 5’9". I think Gray and BJ are pretty much even.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vintage Violentmike! Good stuff! Great analysis, I cant disagree with anything.
1 thing you missed is the mental aspect of the fight. I think BJ is much stronger mentally than GSP. I know that BJ wants GSP bad, but I am not really sure that GSP wants it with Penn. If this is true, big advantage BJ!!!!
Vm: Do me a favor and leave the football bets alone! I know its so much fun to have action on a football game, but its really not worth it. All the money that you bet should go towards mma. You have so much knowledge about the fighters as well as the betting lines that it gives you the best chance of not loosing money. Leave the NFL ALONE!!!!!!! I learned the HARD WAY!
by john on Nov 11, 2008 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How does one “hate” GSP? I don’t get that…
The guy is incredibly talented and puts on good fights. What is there not to like?
I’m a fan of both guys and I can’t wait for the fight.
by R-Dizzle on Nov 11, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was, am, and will always be a fan of Matt Hughes. I suppose you can consider me old school. I have all the respect in the world for GSP and believe he is a Top 5 lb for lb fighter. There are just certain fighters I love to hate. He beat down Mayhem Miller in Mayhems only UFC fight. His accent annoys me at times. And he is one of my brother’s favorite fighters. For some reason, he almost always roots for the Canadians so we always bust his balls over it. GSP is the best Canadian fighter… Also, he’s a mental midget… (sorry, had to add that one)
Catch my drift?
by ViolentMike on Nov 11, 2008 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As for the Hughes comment, I forgot to mention that GSP is his nemesis
by ViolentMike on Nov 11, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand that then. I just wanted to know the reasoning.
I’d consider BJ one of Hughes’ nemesis’, too. They’re probably his two biggest.
I give credit to Mayhem for taking that beating. He enjoyed it. I would have liked to see him have a few more fights in the UFC at MW.
by R-Dizzle on Nov 11, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Sherk can go 5 rounds hard also = )
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except for when he fights GSP, cuz his nose is blown up well before then.
by LJ on Nov 11, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with JV. The sherk fight didn’t say anything about BJ except that he has an excellent jab. Also if you look at “improvements” from each fighter since their last meeting- I believe that GSP is the far better fighter now. Grappling goes to BJ regardless of belts. Striking goes to GSP only for the fact of reach (same as BJ-Sherk both awesome striking but reach was the factor). Wrestling and cardio goes to GSP. I think at the pace they will go GSP will get a ref stoppage once BJ gasses in the 3rd or 4th.
by NameNotRequired on Nov 11, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I THINK SOME OF YOU MUST HAVE NOT HAVE SEEN THE FIRST FIGHT
BJ WAS WOOPING HIM UBTIL HE GASED AND LOOK AT BJ RECORD
AND WHO HE HAS FOUGHT HE LOST A DECISION TO LYOTO MACHIDA
AND IF YOU WATCH THAT FIGHT IT WAS CLOSE HE HAS NEVER BEEN
ROCKED HE ONLY GASED IF HE SHOWS UP IN SHAPE I GUARANTEE
YOU GSP WILL LOSE
by DREW on Nov 11, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cant agree with you more. This fight shouldnt even be taking place. last two times at welterweight he lost to hughes by being put in a crucifix and punched in the face to submission and the second time GSP clearly won the decision but because Penn cut him with his thumb in the first round causing quite a bit of damage the spoiled rich kid begins his complaining i should’ve won blah blah blah look at the damage and like usual BJ gets what he wants. the only way BJ wins this fight is through another fluke cut like that. Since that wont happen it ll eb GSP domination for 3 maybe 4 rounds until there is a ref stoppage!!!
GSP vs Silva is the real supermatch that the UFC could put together not couture and lesner and not bj and GSP. GSP vs SIlva would be the best fight MMA could put together.
Also I think if BJ loses he should lose his belt. This is a complete win win for BJ and he doesnt deserve it. When he loses he ll say the weight was too hard to put on, i didnt feel comfortable, perhaps he ll even say he got lucky. The lightweight division is stacked and this fight is just making florian wait for his shot its bull.
by jackel on Nov 11, 2008 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Jackel. Is there anything else you’d like to complain about? BJ couldn’t lose his belt because its a 170 pound fight, not a 155. You should know that. GSP will get owned by Silva, and I see BJ winning this fight too.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Having him lose the belt would be completely unfair and would not make sense – its a WW fight.
What’s next? Have Miguel Torres fight Fedor and if Miguel loses he loses his BW belt? Ok, that was a bit farfetched but…
by ViolentMike on Nov 11, 2008 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you can’t just say Penn lost his last 2 fights at 170 and leave it at that. Everyone knows he DOMINATED in these 2 fights until his cardio failed him. Now with his new work ethic, that has been seen in his last 3 fights, it makes perfect sense for this fight to happen. Also, everyone knows Silva wouild destroy GSP. YOU COULDN’T BE MORE WRONG.
by ja434650 on Nov 11, 2008 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
everyone except me i guess…
So BJ dominated GSP in the last fight?
You gotta work on your comment a little here… it could be much more funnier.
by Jee on Nov 11, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i mean… how a top 5 P4P contender could gased after One Round?
by Jee on Nov 11, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Penn was never dominating GSP in their fight, yes he did cut him open and murk his eye up nice, but that was from a thumb poke to the eye and a glancing shot to the nose. GSP took the fight from there and should control BJ for 5 rounds for a UD.
by mmanutz on Nov 11, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only way BJ loses his belt is if someone at 155lbs (not 170lbs) beats him.
by Kdog on Nov 12, 2008 3:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love both these guys, but I have to go with GSP. It’s going to be a great fight though! GSP is too big and strong, and he has improved drastically since their last fight. Hopefully BJ doesn’t poke him in the eye too many times :).
by LJ on Nov 11, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man!!! I couldn’t of said it better,Go G.S.P!!!!!!!!!!!!
by trevor on Nov 11, 2008 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only reason BJ lost to Hughes was because he was out of shape. If Bj comes into this fight in great shape then this has the potential to be one of the best fights of 2009. Athleticism goes to GSP, Mental toughness, flexibility, and innate ability goes to BJ. Can’t wait! GSP by decision!
by horny for mma on Nov 11, 2008 9:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Poster is the best UFC poster Ive seen…Cant wait for this one. BJ by UD.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 9:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The poster could be better. Doesn’t really stand out or catch your attention.
by Toad on Nov 11, 2008 9:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
what more do you want? explosions or naked ladies?
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here’s another vote for naked ladies.
by Shadyone33 on Nov 11, 2008 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why can’t there just be this huge explosion of naked ladies?
by O damn he got caught on Nov 11, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes…exploding boobies filled with cash
by McArthur on Nov 11, 2008 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
should be a great fight! BJ needs to keep it standing.. If GSP is able to put BJ on his back we could very well see a bloodied up BJ from GSP elbows..
by RoB on Nov 11, 2008 10:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bj and bloody can’t belong in the same sentence, it’s impossible
by ja434650 on Nov 11, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GSP’s improvments are leaps and bounds ahead of everyone in MMA, let alone BJ Penn. Even if no improvements were made by either, GSP already won. I can’t see Penn making it past the 2nd round, he will be in no shape to continue heading into the third. It’ll be messy.
by GodDamnMike on Nov 11, 2008 10:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let’s not forget that GSP not only earned his black belt recently, but he is a different fighter since their last fight. The real question is whether BJ Penn has upped his game as much since their last outing.
by MMACrossfire on Nov 11, 2008 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
All bj has to do is improve on the cardio(which has been done), when he’s in shape he’s superior and we saw that in rd. 1 of the first fight
by ja434650 on Nov 11, 2008 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys kidding me!!! Cant wait til Feb 1st so i can read all the reasons why BJ randomly won via dumb luck and twinkies, retarded. “BJ should realize that he belongs at 155” he would b*tch slap your mama and im sure shes pushing 205 = ) Looking forward to all your excuses for George come Feb 1st, BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 10:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Word up AdamG! This fight is bigger than the superbowl! GSP fans will sing his praises until he is exposed as nothing more than an above average fighter, that happens to possess near superhuman athleticism.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“This fight is bigger than the superbowl!”
NOT in the USA
by ViolentMike on Nov 11, 2008 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it depends on who you’re talking to. As a die-hard NY Giants fan, I love the Superbowl, especially last year. But if there were one sport to disappear forever between football and MMA, I’d keep MMA.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the superbowl is one of the world’s absolute biggest sport happenings of the year! hahaha what are you talking about.. BJ Penn vs GSP isn’t even on the sports radar if you’re gonna compare it to anything like that..
by RoB on Nov 11, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
doubt it…2 black belts and olympic caliber wrestling is hardly just above average
by McArthur on Nov 11, 2008 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and Jackel doesnt know sh*t, apparently = ) BJ lose his strap?? What the hell are you talking about dude, GSP fans are full of wealthy knowledge on all aspects of MMA LoL!! Lose his strap!!?!? Go back to your red wine and hockey game and leave the MMA talk to us real fans. BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 10:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
if you move up a weight class you should have to fight your way to the belt. bj should have to face Kos, Diego, Fitch, etc maybe even 2 before even going for the belt. same goes for GSP moving up to face Anderson Silva unless its a non title fight at a catch weight or something.
by Egads on Nov 11, 2008 12:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Randy moved up a weight class and came out of retirement to a title shot. BJ is getting this title shot because he held that belt before GSP ever did.
by --utaptout-- on Nov 11, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, BJ gets the title shot mostly thanks to GSP. Penn beat Serra at light weight (his natural weight)- and Serra was the last person to beat GSP. And Penn was the last person to fight competetively against GSP (GSP has dominated Serra,Koscheck, and Fitch in his last three fights). Also, the fact that he once held the ww belt comes into play. And finally, and most importantly everyone wants to see this fight- no matter who you like better, this should be a great fight.
by Kdog on Nov 12, 2008 3:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a big fan of BJ but i don’t take away that GSP is one of the best in mma. I can wait for this fight. however, i would say Bj on the second round by submission.
by pandaboy on Nov 11, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
gsp will come in this fight with the perfect game plan again and put bj that he dont want to be…
by ERIC on Nov 11, 2008 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m gonna go crazy here and gaurantee victory, BJ PENN!
by ja434650 on Nov 11, 2008 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At any of your local participating McDonalds, Tobacco/Bong Shops, NHL Events, Sarah Lee Product Distributors, or with the purchase of any two bottles of Napa Valley Wine. (These were all of the big time sponsorships and promos that i heard about regarding this event poster)= ) JUST KIDDING LAMES!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man! I keep tired of all these BJ nut jugglers saying he is the best and the only reason he lost was because his cardio failed him when he was a WW. Breaking news: “cardio is a part of being a good fighter”. If you have the skill set but not cardio then guess what? you’ll never be pound for pound. It would be like saying Travis Lutter is the best MW on the planet and the only reason he lost to AS and RF is because his cardio failed him but in the first round he dominated. Come on people just give GSP the credit he deserves for winning their first match up and is BJ wants to win and believes he got the better skills, then he needs to get his ass in the gym and work hard like GSP does
by Jew Jif Shoes on Nov 11, 2008 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I find it hilarious when people guarantee a victory in this sport, there are no guarantees, and guaranteeing penn will beat gsp just show’s flat out MMA ignorance. Is penn superman or something? does he have magical powers? I’m a huge gsp nut hugger and know he could lose to any top ten but feel over all he’s the best fighter, except for thiago alves who I can’t say gsp is better than because they haven’t fought yet. One thing I notice on this site is how very few bloggers are objective when looking at a fight, they must be new or haven’t seen all of the fights of each fighter. Penn could win but he could also lose, just like he did the first time, if you don’t realize that you’re a fool. All I say is I think gsp will win and hope he does but I don’t think for a minute that he can’t lose, if your human you can lose. There both top, talented, very high level fighters its not like both guys are fighting tomato cans like joe average, I’m sure it will be a very competitive fight, and feel it will be similar to the first one without gsp bleeding so much. But then again it could be over quickly with either a quick t(ko) or a sub who knows, I really hope it’s at least a 3 or 4 round war and lives up to the hype and no one gets injure or we’ll never hear the end of this.
by nathan on Nov 11, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, thats why i call that cat a thug, hes crazy to gaurantee anything, especially in this fight, especially with these two fighters, and im THE BIGGEST BJ PENN NUT HUGGER ON THE PLANET! Just ask around . . . see i told you = ) I say BJ BJ BJ all day but know anything can happen and both are capable of that anything. But if all goes smoothly then Penn should win by my calculations. BJ BJ BJ!!! Whats funny is that GSP fans bet against Penn in fights like the stevenson and sherk ones, but us Penn fans arent stupid enough to think Geprge is gonna lose to Matt serra or J.Fish = ) You guys bet with your hearts, we bet with our heads. When it comes to this fight there will be no compromising though huh, we’ll bet Penn, and you’ll bet George. BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bjs should stick with LW he barley beat sherk in a stand up battle and sherk is horrible at stand up. GSP destroyed sherk. Hope to see you at the fight, or are you just a computer geek wanna be fan.
by Nick on Nov 11, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well i wont be in Vegas if thats what you mean, but ill be watching. GSP has tons of height and size overall plus reach advantage on Sherk dude, figure it out, he should have destroyed Sean . . . When you compare those factors and take them away from BJ/Seans fight, BJ put him away in the exact same amount of time and just as badly, Sean couldnt even remember the fight after, right??? . . . But whatever, everyone except you GSP fans think BJ isnt worthy, the guy fights in almost excvlusivly title fights, its for a reason man. George has to climb ladders to get to where BJ just demands to be, he knows his worth and wont fight any one but the best, and at WLWT, right now, in the entire world, the best is George St Pierre. BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
*Everyone except you GSP fans think BJ is worthy. (Typoooo)
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the GSP/Penn debate, Nick’s comment there was probably the worst ive ever seen.
by The Anomaly on Nov 12, 2008 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barley beat him, he put on a boxing clinic. Did you see Sherk after that fight?
by parks1 on Nov 11, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wanna know what bothers me about this fight the fact that bj can just walk into the 170 pound division and get a shot at the champ right away its bullshit bj penn has nothing to lose he is not going to loss his belt when he losses to gsp its bad fight for georges for that fact alone even though i think he will beat the shit out of bj i still think it should be a non title fight if he wants a shot at the title i think he should have had to fight some people before either way GSP all the way
by tay on Nov 11, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
bj has nothing to lose in this fight unlike gsp whos puting his belt on the line bj should stay at 155 and fight all those good fighters and let gsp defend his title against guys like thiago alvez.
by danny on Nov 11, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
bj is greedy and wants all the belts. and now his talkin shit on gsp saying he uses steroids. i used to like bj alot but not anymore
by danny on Nov 11, 2008 2:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Prove that BJ said George is on steroids . . . Never happened. Dont come in here making sh*t up dude, this fight doesnt need any more hype, especially not BS hype like that. Never happened. But yea, BJ is greedy, and as his fan, i love it sucka!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (AdamG ) ) on Nov 11, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fightsports magazine retracted the statement and acknowledged their MAJOR @#$% up of an article. BJ’s thoughts on gsp at his website.
by Katsu on Nov 11, 2008 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m less interested in who people think is going to win, then how they think each guy might win. IMO, Penn is going to have to push the pace and put pressure on GSP from the start to get the victory. I don’t think he can win if it goes the distance, and GSP has a way of getting comfortable in a fight and getting stronger as it progresses.
But BJ is one of the few guys who could force GSP out of his comfort zone and actually dictate the pace of the fight, something GSP is not used to at all. He can’t take GSP down, not unless he connects with some big shots, but he can lure him into some big exchanges standing that he can get the better of. He can make GSP desperate for the takedown and then stuff those takedowns, frustrating him a little.
Eventually, if GSP gets off balance due to getting the worse end of an exchange, Penn can take the fight to the ground and get control, maybe even get GSP’s back and finish him.
Granted, this is best case scenario for BJ, but since I want him to win, I’m trying to imagine the best approach for him, and what I keep getting is that he has to be super aggressive from the start.
We all know what GSP has to do. He has to be smart on his feet and not get into any crazy exchanges and then he needs to put his wrestling in gear and take BJ down and hold him down all night. GSP has the opportunity to try to ride him out to points a victory, whereas the onus is on Penn, IMO, to finish the fight.
by Revjames13 on Nov 11, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dunno—this would be a major accomplishment for George if he can finish this fight. He may be looking for the homerun.
by Kdog on Nov 12, 2008 4:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I DONT GIVE A FUCK!! BJ ALL THE FUCKING WAY!!! WIN OR LOSE, ITS GONNA BE ONE HELL OF A FIGHT!!!!
by The 5th Beatle on Nov 11, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BJ couldnt beat Hughes.
GSP mauled him with ease.
Fair enough BJ never used to be ‘commited’ or whatever to the sport (terrible excuse), but the records speak for themselves.
by ben on Nov 11, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
First of all Penn beat Hughes, and the 2nd time dominated him until he broke his rib. Secondly, you can’t play the matchup game, it really doesn’t work that way.
by ja434650 on Nov 11, 2008 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BJ submitted Hughes inside of one round when Matt Hughes was in his absolute prime and in the most psychologically dominant moment of his career. And he did it without Hughes doing anything of significance offensively in the fight. Zero. BJ got there before GSP and he beat him faster than GSP.
by Revjames13 on Nov 11, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i love bj penn man, the dude is such a badass – amazing skills, killer instinct for miles, and that attitude he gives off just make him such a badass. BUT. he will lose to st. pierre this time, and i think he’ll get finished by rush. i just don’t see where he’s going to take georges and be able to hold him there. he definitely has a chance to fuck st. pierre’s face up again, but this isn’t a straight boxing match. st. pierre rd 3 tko.
by Phil Baloni on Nov 11, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t wait for this fight because all of this talk about GSP is to big and strong is really irritating the fuck out of me lol… God Damn! That’s what I love about this sport is you can prove mother fuckers wrong and once these two fighters get inside the octagon, we’ll see who gets their ass kicked. This fight is a complete toss up, both fighters have their advantages and disadvantages so we’ll see the result a couple of months from now.
by Brian on Nov 11, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To be honest this fight is hard to analysis as gsp looked so dominate and determined in his last 4 fights and penn looked very good in his last 3, and they did fight 2 and a half years ago, the more improved fighter should win. I for one didn’t think penn would lose to stevenson or pulver, sherk I wasn’t so sure about and thought his only chance was to win on points but penn tko’d him at the end of the third. This fight could be boring, with gsp laying on penn for most of the fight with penn effectively controlling gsp from the bottom, gsp might surprised most and outstrike penn and t(ko) him, or vice versa, penn win a decision which honestly would surprise me but the other scenarios wouldn’t. God I wish this fight was this weekend, I can’t take the suspence. I always feel nervous when gsp fights especially after the first serra fight, it would suck if he loses to penn, gsp definitely has more to lose with this fight, penn not so much he still has the light weight belt. But this is the fight everyone want’s to see, gsp wants it, the ufc wants it obviously PPV will be through the roof, penn wants it in the worst way, and all the die hard MMA fans want to see it considering all the controversy around the first fight. I actually don’t see penn going crazy in the first round like he did in the past and will try to size gsp up and pace the fight, and I’m sure gsp will have a great game plan and will try to do to penn what he did with serra only penn is much harder to take down than serra, has way better hands and is better off his back with his rubber legs. The more I think about it, it will be a tough fight for gsp, and on paper it should be the toughest of his career but the paper has a habit of been proven wrong all too often. MMA math dosn’t work,there are no guarantees in this sport, almost no two fights or rounds for than matter are the same. One thing I feel fairly confident in is gsp won’t be on his back much or at all in this fight, and penn will, they’ll be pretty even on there feet and it should be a competitive fight with gsp having the edge in the later rounds, thats how I see things feel free to disagree.
by nathan on Nov 11, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BJ has f*ckin fought Machida and hung with him. Size will not be a factor and BJ knows what he is stepping into. But all hellllllllll yeeeeeeeeaaa this event is going to be sahweet.
by xxBAxx816 on Nov 11, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
anyone can hang with Machida he never presses the action anyways even if he was fighting a phone booth, it would probably go a decision..
by RoB on Nov 11, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a GSP fan and this is the fight I want to see more than any other. He’s just not big enough to handle Silva, and Penn more talented than any other LW. There’s no reason Penns belt should be on the line, any more than Silva’s belt should have been on the line when he went up to LHW, so long as he’s able to come down and defend his title shortly afterwards (as per Silva).
As for the fight, I can’t wait. These 2 are insanely talented, I’m sure Penn will show up in the best shape of his life with no excuses. I don’t see the fight staying upright too long, and see GSP on-top on the mat thanks to superior takedown and TD defense, but I can see him getting suckered into a stupid submission much like brock lesnar vs. MIR. As said above, +200 Penn is a bet i’d make.
by JDiggler on Nov 11, 2008 7:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is the bottom line and I think a lot of people will agree with me…
Who cares if bj is worthy or not, who cares if GSP has more on the line…
This is going to be an absolutely amazing fight, everyone here that is complaining is probably going to purchase the fight because they want to see it. Maybe BJ isn’t wothy ect. but a quality fight like this is rare and if it’s possible to make happen then it should happen.
by ja434650 on Nov 11, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ben,
your comment about Penn losing to Hughes and GSP whooping him has me a bit concerned… did you watch the Penn vs. Hughes “title fight” remember Penn took this fight on VERY short notice because GSP was hurt at the time, Penn was crushing Hughes for 2 rounds and IF (yes i know IF) there were 10 more seconds in the 2nd round, BJ submits with with a Triangle… at the end of the 2nd round Penn could hardly stand up from exhaustion and got put in a Crucifix … Penn has not gassed in a fight since… I don’t mind your having an opinion but that comment really needed to be backed up… If BJ has one more month to train, he too dominates Hughes in that fight,
Now all that being said, this fight will be very very interesting, BJ is training like a real champion now and not just relying on raw talent, and WOW did GSP look amazing in his past few fights!!!
Another thing, BJ has won the 1st two rounds of EVERY FIGHT IN HIS CAREER EXCEPT 3… Machida who outweighs him by almost 30 lbs, 2nd round to GSP in 1st fight and i can’t remember the third, but it is accurate statistic…
i think the Rev said it best talking about “how” someone finishes this fight… they are both so skilled and i believe BJ can outbox (ie jab and move) against GSP just like in the the first match to set the pace and take control… i believe that the first mistake on the ground is the end of this fight, they are both so skilled and quick to capitalize on mistakes,
Personally, they happen to be my two favorite fighters… but i am rooting for BJ here by rear naked choke in the 4th
but once again, it will be exciting and this “blogging” means nothing cause that is why they fight!!
by thatiswhytheyfight on Nov 15, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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