BJ training for GSP aka polishing the brass on the titanic.

Im just a normal, average man in my cage fighter shirt with wholes in his game. I dont have no Hollywood agents. I just like to beat people up!

Classic!

Hate to say it, but GSP is in TROUBLE!!!!

What song is that? Using the beat of “The Ocean” by Zeppelin but can’t find it..

that was pretty funny, i hope bj puts on muscle and not just fat to get to 170, i like the wholes in his game comment at least bj has never been knocked out.

Man! you can tell BJ is trying to beef up for GSP. if BJ can get his body size just right he can give GSP on hell of a fight. BJ’s stamina and strenght has doubled since he dropped down to 155 and GSP just evolves every fight. it will be hard to call if BJ can come in real lean at 170 that night. if he come 165 and somewhat lean. its GSP’s fight. but BJ is beffing up for sure. CANT WAIT!!

Guess who’s back!!!!!!

I can’t wait for this fight. We will see the most focused and intense BJ Penn that we have ever seen. As for GSP, he always looks good, but I truly don’t see anything he can do to overwhelm Penn. The ONLY way I see GSP winning is by decision. We will have a new welterweight champion come Jan 31. I know I will get flamed for this comment, but I don’t care.

BJ is going to be slow if he continues the way he is training. GSP’s strength coach is a badass and will have him ready.

Is BJ practicing his moans and facial looks for when GSP pounds him out? Looks like a regular workout to me!

BJ is gonna get TKO’d GSP is gonna take him out by the second round.

Those moans are to distract GSP. He will hear them and start tweaking his nipples and rubbing his oversized sigfried and roy cup on BJ and thats when the prodigy will strike. I cant wait for the fancy french canadian to lose he barely beat an out of shape bj penn in there first match and he wont be so lucky this time.

By the way the song is Dolla by fort minor. That features the ocean. link is below

http://www.dlmusic.ru/eng/title.php?g_path=/music/n3/new/02.08.2007/Fort%20Minor/We%20Major/03_-Dolla%20(feat.%20SOB)-Fort%20Minor-We%20Major.mp3&gartist=Fort%20Minor&g_title=Dolla%20(feat.%20SOB)

GSP is taking it unless BJ can land a few combo’s and get the tko or ko….GSP is a freak and will win. I think if he takes him down, beats him up he wins by tko or sub or by points…Penn will only win by ko or tko standing but I don’t think it’s going to happen!

everyone talks about BJ getting KOd but when have we ever seen BJ seriously hurt by a punch or kick??…..NEVER

so i dont see GSP winning by KO or SUB so his best chance is decision

GSP’s training always looks 50 times more professional and more intense than anything I’ve seen BJ put out.

penn lacks work ethic.
gsp will tool him just like the first time.

You guys are nuts for calling this fight either way (decisively i mean) no ones gonna dominate it, if i was a judge id be scared outta me pants for this one. ITS GONNA CLOSE. Both guys are very capable of a finish. I love both fighters and i expect a 3-4 round WAR! Very hard fight to call. whoever wins, ill be happy i got to watch. disagree if you like, but right now in MMA this is the biggest fight ever. Im drooling…

GSP is in fine tune mode. I don’t think he can make leaps and bounds progress from where he stands.

BJ, the other hand, has tons of untapped potential. He has shown uncanny ability from the very start. I mean look at the guy. He still hasn’t reached his prime yet.

Also, I don’t think GSP has much of a chin. BJ’s head seems to be filled with dough and can take a beating.

GSP by decision if BJ gases. Or, BJ by TKO.

I’m a bj supporter so I hope he wins, but this fight is too hard to call either way. May the best man win

i think this fight is 2 and a half months away. just wait until it is 2 weeks out. i can only imagine the debates. nobody is even talking forrest/rashad, wandi/rampage nog/mir(well maybee alittle nog/mir) or hendo/rich. i just read that ufc 93 in dublin has already sold out. the next 3-4 months are gonna be awesome for mma fans, and i am including dream/k-1’s nye bash and Afflictions fedor/arlovski event. BOOM!

BJ hit Georges with almost every punch he threw in the first fight, and Georges still pulled out the victory. Sure, BJ looked gassed in that fight, and maybe in better shape this time around (a BIG maybe), but he is not going to KO Georges (unless he hits harder now than before).

I predict the same type of fight….

Round 1 – BJ wins it by striking.
Round 2 – Close, but BJ still outstrikes GSP.
Round 3 – BJ gasses, Georges wins.
Round 4 – Georges continues to outstrike a tired BJ.
Round 5 – Not even close…GSP tools BJ

GSP wins it 48-47

I cant wait for this fight man, damn Ive never heard of a person being weak and pathetic like some ppl here posted just because he makes noises while he is lifting weights. ? are you guys serious who gives a flying f$%k!! did you guys not here he is 90 days out.. BJ was probably still working on all aspects of MMA except weight lifting , im guessing he just started his strenght training for the camp so kinda tough the first day out but im sure 30 days from now he will be just fine… point is even 90 days from now if he makes the same noises does that mean he is still weak?? c’mon guys anywho I hope this is a 3-5 rd fight so both fighters can show how greatly improved they are, BJ was lacking the cardio and GSP has just put everything together. It will be like watching Federer and Nadal play for the final damn definetly the 2 best fighters going at it. I like both but, favor GSP on this one

BJ looks like hes never lifted weights in his life, he is in BIG BIG trouble against GSP he is going to be much much stronger than bj and just control the fight with a great game plan like he always does and why is he trying to put on muscle mass we all know how much he hates to cut weight lol and i hate his average guy comments, georges is a perfect example of how a profesional athlete should present himself. BJ is going to take a worse beating than john fitch did. GSP….GSP….GSP

IMO opinion and i cant believe im going to say this but, perfect scenario would be BJ winning by close decision then BJ defending both belts once LW against either Sherk, Florian or someone deserving, then WW against Thiago,whilst GSP fights Diego Sanchez for #1 contender at WW and then have A monster Trilogy fight between BJ and GSP wow I think it would be bigger than Randy vs Chuck saga.

This may or may not be the toughest fight of GSP’s career, but I’m sure it will be the one that ends the “mental weakness” debate once and for all, or at least it should be. I think he will be pushed to the max by BJ and will have to display all of his skill to get the win. That said, I think he wants this win more then he did against Hughes or Serra. I have this strange feeling that he’s coming for blood and wants his most dominant victory yet. If this is the case we are in for an awesome fight!

Wow. BJ’s gonna leave a very good looking corpse in the Octagon when GSP murders him :)

It would be nice if BJ comes in at a strong-looking 168-170. He’ll never have the physique of GSP, but that’s not what wins fights.

Psychologically, BJ seems absolutely certain he is going to win the fight.

If it goes the distance you have to give the edge to GSP obviously, but I see BJ subbing him within 3, after a crazy back and forth fight, or BJ knocking him out in shocking fashion in the first round.

What I love about this match-up is how polarizing it is. I think there are more people who feel GSP is going to dominate, and, seeing as GSP is probably the most well-rounded fighter in mma today, you can make a good case for it. His wrestling, which is the best functionally IMO, is his surest avenue to victory. But his stand up skills are excellent as well, and I don’t think he’ll be afraid to keep the fight standing for long stretches, despite what happened the first time around. He just won’t commit to going for the KO, whereas I think Penn will if the opening is there.

As far as jits, obviously BJ has the decided edge there. Against almost anyone else in the division, GSP would be able to dominate there as well, but not against the guy with the best jits in the game. That’s why this match-up is insane: best wrestling vs best jits, both have great stand-up (GSP better kicks, BJ better knees) and both are very good at defending takedowns and subs.

Some factors: BJ has a better chin. He has never been KO’d, unless you want to mention the second Hughes fight in which BJ separated a rib and basically laid there in a crucifix while Hughes kind of rapped on his head for awhile. But please, that wasn’t exactly being KTFO. GSP on the other hand, was brutally KO’d by Serra.

BJ has never been subbed. GSP has, by Hughes.

GSP has better conditioned. No matter what kind of shape BJ gets in, he will not match GSP in this department. But he can do a lot of damage control so that he doesn’t run out of steam halfway through.

In my opinion GSP is not mentally weak at all, quite the contrary, but I think BJ is a little bit tougher. But this is largely a matter of opinion, as both guys will really come to fight.

I expect the first round will be a feeling out process unless Penn decides to go for broke. More than likely it will be Penn that moves forward and pushes the pace in the early going, which is a little unusual for GSP, since he is often the guy dictating where the action goes. But with a full tank, BJ is more aggressive than GSP.

GSP is an exceptional athlete and truly a prototype of the modern mixed martial artist. But Penn has that X factor as a fighter. He has a way of making it a fight and disrupting the plan of his opponent. He is also just an unbelievably huge threat from his back, which is something that GSP has never really had to deal with. GSP is used to being in control almost always in a fight. I don’t see him controlling Penn. He’s going to be diligent and try to rack up the points, but it’s going to be Penn who has the guts to go for broke and force GSP into the deep end.

A lot of people, people who follow the sport closely, still don’t get how good, how talented and tough BJ Penn is. He is easily one of the best fighters in the history of the sport and he is going to prove it when he faces GSP. It’s going to be a sea-change moment in mma.

I could write all day about this fight, it’s such a monster.

This is a fight there should be an in depth documentary about, it’s going to be that good. It will be the first one I attend live. It’s of Ali Frazier proportions, IMO.

I seriously don’t think GSP is so much better than he was in their first fight. Ok, I know he’s dominated people. But lets go back a while and look at his career:

UFC 54 vs. Trigg: Beats Trigg with a RNC. BFD. Trigg is a never was.

UFC 56 vs. Sherk: Exposes to the world that Sherk is really just a decision fighter that can’t hang with the big dogs at 170.

UFC 58 vs. Penn 1: Barely wins a split decision (a BS split btw)

UFC 65 vs. Hughes 2: TKO’s Hughes, the one dimensional, refuses to evolve, good for his day, never was

UFC 69 vs. Serra 1: TAPS DUE TO STRIKES!!! What f*cking champ EVER taps due to strikes!?!? Shows his lack of heart and toughness

UFC 74 vs. Koscheck: Takes down and barely outstrikes a one-dimensional world class wrestler a couple times in a match where strikes are legal, and wins a UD without inflicting any damage.

UFC 79 vs. Hughes 3: Dominates an even more washed up, older, and less musclebound Hughes, who couldn’t even come close to finishing Chris Lytle.

UFC 83 vs. Serra 2: Refuses to stand with the natural 155 pound man who made him cry, and takes him down and GNP’s and knees his way to victory.

UFC 87 vs. Fitch: Earns a dominant UD victory over a man who is outclassed by GSP in every aspect of the game besides heart, grit, and toughness. GSP couldn’t handle 5 rounds of what he gave to Fitch. GSP would fold.

GSP’s record is not any more impressive now than it was then. Everyone wants to talk like he’s superhuman, and that he’s evolved so much, but he hasn’t. The only thing he’s better at now is wrestling. His jiujitsu is better now but thats negated because EVERYBODY’S jiujitsu is better now. He’s a terrific fighter in his prime, but there are so many people out there that believe his hype. “I make many mistake, I am refocused, That loss is the best thing that ever happen to me”. He hasn’t changed. He changed up his gameplan so he doesn’t get hit anymore. Wait until he gets rocked again. I don’t know if BJ will do it (although I hope he does), but if he doesn’t I bet Alves will, and when he does, GSP will fold and probably tap to strikes again when he can’t handle the rainstorm of punches coming at him. GSP is a fraud that can’t take a punch.

This fight will answer everything we need to know about each fighter. And it will place the winner in the rarified air of Fedor and Anderson Silva.

c’mon y’alls, we all know this fight is going to be too close to call this far out. and yes bj’s workout is not anywhere near as professional as gsp’s. but we all know bj spars so hard. gsp is the professional sniper assasian. bj is the sneaky ninja assasian.

im real interested in the mentals of both fighters actually. i like where both their heads are at with bj having a slight edge in the head games.

bj said in the past that he “justs wants to be remembered as the best ever”. i think he really takes that to heart and this fight can really cement that. usually he’s lazy, but he has tons of pressure for this fight that will bring out the best in him. i mean he basically put this fight together by calling gsp out after he called the end of the sherk fight instead of the ref. he was already on the offensive out of the gate. gsp’s belt is on the line come fight nite, not bj’s. we will see the best bj we’ve ever seen in the cage come fight night.

and we better because gsp is at the top of the game right now. his sports shrink is keeping his head focused in the cage and fighting to his fullest potential. since his matt serra loss he has been destroying opponents.

hahahahaha this is so funy

this is a good fight and i think its at the perfect time because they both have bin domminant and there both still young so its a perfect fight and very even but i say gsp by em ground and pound round 3 unless bj penn has really good cardio then gsp by split because i feal gsp rite now is at his peak and only that i mean gsp is just alot bigger then bj penn but one thing i will say for sure is that its gonna be one hell of a fight

GSP IS GONNA DESTROY THAT LAZY OUTTA SHAPE PENN!

bj penn was born to be a fighter. gsp is a great athlete and technically sound but lacks the fighter mentality that bj has. that will be the difference in my opinion.

Honestly, I have to say this and Im going to get flamed to hell but I think BJ is slightly over rated. go to bjs wikipedia page that has his entire mma record and give it a look its not really that impressive. There is a lot of hype that goes with the BJ train and I just dont see how he is deemed the greatest fighter to grace the ring. Alot of people are saying BJ is a new man, he is in the best shape of his life, thats great and probably true but GSP isnt exactly a chubby guy, I think it will be a good fight but BJ really isnt all hes cracked up to be.

Oh and I dont understand all this talk about mental acuity, does anyone actually know these guys or do you just see them on the TV? Who knows how they are mentally. Penn could be going through extreme personal anguish about being a closet homosexual or GSP can be suffering from post partem depression for taking a big dump, what the hell does anyone here know. Fighter mentality… these people that we watch on TV are essentially characters like every other entertainment show.

Bj is not impressing me with the with the grunts or the weight training. sounds like he has vaginitis or somethin.. GSP is a Phenom he is gonna destroy the lazy Hawaian.

“Im just a normal, average man in my cage fighter shirt with wholes in his game. I dont have no Hollywood agents. I just like to beat people up!”

GSP: oh I’m scared. I’m so scared that I can’t hold of myself when I wrecked this guy and ended up in commatose state instead of just a stretcher

BJ is hilarious – this is a complete reverse psychology video – throw up some light weight training sessions, talk about holes in your game, and generate some controversy and talk.

A lot of penn nut huggers on this site. I would really like to see penn stay at the welter weight division for a while and earn a title shot. Yes penn wants to avenge that loss, but he made gsp look bad in the first round and there’s a lot of controversy in this fight so you can count on gsp coming out stronger than ever before. Serra said he’s never gotten destroyed in a fight, well as dana white said in the post fight press conference he did tonight. Penn has 13 wins and 4 loss’s, gsp has 17 wins and 2 loss’s, neither has been ko’d but, they’ve both been tko’d. Yes a green gsp was subbed by hughes but penn never even came close to subbing him in there first fight, gsp is a black belt now so a sub now is even less likely. I honestly believe penn will have to pull a serra in this fight to win, gsp will smother penn and dominate him for 3 to 5 rounds and I fully expect him to take him down in the first round fustrating penn and shaking his confidence. I think it will be an up and down fight with gsp grinding out a victory tiring out penn and either winning by tko or decision. Maybe a sub of an extremely tired or stunned penn, it would make my night, rub a little salt in his wounds which he deserves for calling out gsp. Even better yet would be a first round ko of the un ko able penn LOL. History means shit, no body is immume to the ko, well maybe a silva is but hopefully it penn get KTFO in the first, go gsp!

I hope all you guys slobbering all over penns nuts don’t commit suicide if penn gets destroyed by gsp, it could happen. Don’t do it, its not worth it over your man crush blow job penn, life will go on. I don’t know how anyone can argue with after gsp’s loss to serra he looks better than ever and embarrassed everyone of his opponents since then and I think he’ll embarrass penn.

When people who know BJ Penn’s career talk about how good he is/can be, they start with the fact that he won the jits black belt world championships after training for three years without a point being scored on him (equivalent to winning a boxing gold medal after train 3 years without being hit by a punch). The first non-brazillian to do so. Even the Gracies said: “He should be one of us.”

Then you have to take into account that he moved up from LW and took Matt Hughes’ WW belt when Hughes was in his absolute prime and in most psychologically dominant moment of his career. And he did it in one round without Hughes doing anything of significance offensively.

Then you add the insanity of BJ moving up to 205 and taking Lyoto Machida (one of the best fighters in the world and still undefeated) to a split decision. That means one of the judges thought BJ WON the fight.

Throw in beating Renzo Gracie, one of the legends of the sport and easily one of it’s best BJJ practitioners.

Then go back in time and remember how this jits kid entered the sport by brutally KO’ing a couple top challengers.

Fast forward to the GSP fight where BJ takes (some would say) the best guy in the world at 170 to a split decision, sending him to the hospital while he walks away unscathed.

Lastly, toss in his last three dominant wins (especially the last two), where Penn has looked fitter and more focused than ever, while destroying the top 2 guys at LW.

Now tell me, what about BJ’s career makes you think he doesn’t have what it takes to seriously threatening GSP and his title? THEY HAVE ALREADY FOUGHT AND IT WAS RAZOR CLOSE!

Now they will do it again and it’s going to answer all the questions. I see a shocked GSP sitting in the center of the octagon, wondering what just happened.

This to me is one of the most exciting fights of the year.
Taking a step back and looking at the break down of each fighter
BJ you have to give a plus on the ground but only in the submission category. Noone can help really there and to avoid danger GSP has to use his athlectic ability and strength advantage to avoid getting into a scramble.

Standup, hands are about equal although BJ is deceptive here he has very quick hands. As far as kicks go GSP has a plus but if he goofs one kick and bj takes him down this could be a fast end for gsp so if he does kick he will be very careful about it. I also think that GSP has a reach advantage here so a pure boxing game might not go well for BJ and if i had a GSP gameplan this is where i would want to keep the fight.

Take downs are clearly somethign gsp has due to his better wrestling but again he has to avoid scrambles and BJs take down defense is just insane. if he wants back up he will stand back up its that simple. (Couture was saying in practices that it was really hard for him to take down BJ and he is walking around with 70+ lbs on him easily)

Cardio a clear + for GSP and his main strenth he just swarms people and over whelms them. but this can lead into a scramble and a fast submission.
Can BJ keep up with the energy that GSP brings to the fight

I dont see GSP submitting BJ (unless he is clearly injured)
It will likely go to decision for GSP

Game plans: GSP keep it standing and use reach and some kicks to frustrate BJ . avoid ground game unless you can get a clear advantage. Keep the fight into the later rounds. BJ has gone 5 rounds before but he isnt close to GSPs level.

BJ press the fight and take it to GSP or let him come to you and take advantage of the scrambles to gain dominate positions.
avoid long exchanges standing up

How things can go wrong- GSP tries to make a statement and rushes out to overwhelm BJ and gets caught (ala serra) or in a take down scramble.

Later rounds GSP tries to push and finish the fight and gets caught in a submission

really i think with GSP size and strength that this is his fight to lose and as long as he fights smart and uses points to win he will be fine. If he tries for the KO or TKO thats whn things will get interesting.

GSP IS BETTER THAN BABY JAY PENN AT EVERYTHING!

GSP WILL MAUL PENN AGAIN!