UFC Quick Quote: Brock Lesnar is sick and tired of the steroid allegations
by Jesse Holland on Nov 4, 2008 4:08 PM EST
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"I’ve been accused of using steroids my entire life, probably since the tenth grade in high school… I’ve never failed a drug test. Now if I was a black guy and I looked the way I do would I get asked this question a 100 times? I just happen to be a white guy that has some great genetics, so I guess that puts a bullseye on me… I’m a white dude that’s shredded and you don’t see a lot of it -- a guy that’s walking around that looks like me."
-- UFC heavyweight title contender Brock Lesnar tells Larry Pepe on Pro MMA Radio last night about how he feels regarding the allegations that he is/was a steroid user -- allegations that have apparently followed him for well more than a decade. Lesnar is a massive specimen, weighing near 285 pounds these days and cutting down to the heavyweight division limit of 265 pounds around fight time. He will challenge heavyweight champion Randy Couture for his division title at UFC 91: "Couture vs. Lesnar" on November 15. It's important to note that Lesnar has recently been tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) for illegal/banned substances and passed with flying colors. Lesnar and other competitors on the card will also be test on or around fight night. We'll have more on Lesnar's appearance on Pro MMA Radio shortly.
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What does being white have to do with it?
by ViolentMike on Nov 4, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
as racist as it may sound mike, look at black dudes and white dudes! Black guys are more muscular naturally than white guys. I think it was a true statement made by brock!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he has never touched steroids, hgh yes but never steroids!
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
picky picky roy, i agree and have said so in the past!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i am just messing around actually i hate talking about steroids unless the have a proven failed test, i do think that upwards of 70% of fighters have are are doing steroids but i would rather them get away with it than acuse someone of taking them who hasn’t.when they get caught with a test than let tham have it.
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Notice how brock specifically said he “never failed a drug test”, which is totally different from “i’ve never taken steroids”. Brock, youre such a user. And yes, how do you explain all that roid rage if you aren’t on roids???
by cbchwa on Nov 4, 2008 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say the exact same thing. It’s not just this time, he always says, “he never failed a test”,rather than saying, “I have NEVER taken steroids”.
by Gord on Nov 4, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, so never failing a drug test does not equal never using the drugs.
I bet in his WWE days, he was juicing.
by jd on Nov 4, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he has a some stage, have a look at him in WWE and look at him now, he’s no where near as lean. Also, most steroid users have a big roll of skin and fat behind there neck, this is a sure sign. Whats that behind his neck. He might not be doing it now, but he definately has at some stage and I reckon there are heaps more that are hiding it.
by Mr Potato on Nov 5, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh jeez. Here we go.
Race has nothing to do with muscularity.
Skin tone has EVERYTHING to do with muscularity. Why do you think bodybuilders are all tanned hmm? It’s because darker skin colours make muscles stand out more, or look more defined. Especially when they grease up with oil for posing in competition.
In the case of a Ronnie Coleman, he obviously doesn’t have to tan, but if you look at Arnold’s Mr. Universe run, he was always tanned in those days when competing.
by Graham on Nov 4, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol..that’s the most nonsense ever.. black guys obviously have stronger muscles and better defined.
by shamo84 on Nov 4, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol.. I think that’s the most nonsense I have ever heard..
by shamo84 on Nov 4, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s not fair! I thought the first one had been moderated due to the racist sentence! so I wrote the second..
by shamo84 on Nov 4, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
black guys have more natural testosterone than whites, proven
by brendan on Nov 4, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
moreover plantation owners prefered forcing large men to procreate with large women (better field “workers”) and lighter skinned males with lighter skinned females (more presentable in the home), as sick as it is. It was the thought at the time, and you can’t tell me that hasn’t effected the physical nature of the modern african american?
by sycboi on Nov 4, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but these days they are terrible workers! what gives?
by trey_trey on Nov 4, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. That is so wrong, yet I am still laughing my ass off.
by naturalshadow on Nov 4, 2008 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
White guys are just as big, black guys have a different muscle make. White guys can swim faster because we’re made different but black guys can run faster and thats got something to do with there achilles being shorter or longer. Black guys aren’t naturally stronger or bigger, look at some of our scandinavian friends, those guys are massive and if black guys are naturally bigger what’s going on in Ethiopia and other surrounding countries. Those guys are skinny as
by Mr Potato on Nov 5, 2008 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then why is Obama so small? Oh wait let me guess, its his white mother lol
by Chadx23 on Nov 5, 2008 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The man does have a point, and If I were him I would be pissed about the steroid questions also. Its a shame that guys like Baryy Bonds ruined it for all the other athletes.
I try not to accuse fighters, until they prove to f ail drug tests.
by john on Nov 4, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah john, but you put on blinders for guys you like. Alves used a diuretic that is used to mask steroids and you still say he’s clean. I respect your point, but you need to not contradict yourself. If he didn’t use the diuretic, he would have popped, but it was less severe for not being steroids. IMO any failed drug test should be a 9 month-1year suspension. Any failed test after that should result in a lifetime ban! If a guy doesn’t learn a lesson after a year with no competition and pay, he doesn’t deserve to tarnish my sport or any sport for that matter anymore!!!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you to a point kevin and i don’t like to play naive but diuretics can be used to cut weight,you are right they are used to mask test and usually when caught with them it is considered a dirty test, but alves does have to drop alot of weight to make ww so i dout he is still using if he ever was but when you catch him red handed than call him a user.
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly roy. Thats why I give alves the benefit of the doubt. I read a new interview with Alves yesterday that says he goes into the weigh ins at 171 lbs, but fights at 198 lbs. Thats a TREMENDOUS weight cut and like Roy pointed out Diuretics can be used for the weight cut. THats why I give Alves the benefit of the doubt. when he fails a drug test for ROIDS, feel free to crucify him. Until then, its really a shame to taint the name of a young bright star like Alves. People need to lay off the accusations, thats all I am saying. People accuse fighters of roids with no PROOF and it sucks. People accused wandy n shogun for years simply because PRIDE didnt test for drugs…Thats really messed up. Innocent till proven Guilty….Thats just my two cents, but I hear you guys and respect what you are saying. But us bloggers go crazy for this sport and we should want it to expand. unjustly accusing fighters of drug use, wont help the CAUSE!
MMA REVOLUTION Baby! Lol, just being silly!
by john on Nov 4, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when I defend mma to all the haters, I take great PRIDE in the harsh penalties and extensive drug tests that our beloved athletes go through. It just drives me crazy to see fighters names get slandered like this without proof!
by john on Nov 4, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is almost as racist as what Brock said. Also makes no sense to me.
by FightinRoundtheWorld on Nov 4, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And oh yeah, white men can’t jump[except Bobby Sura, LOL].
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Nov 4, 2008 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Black and latino guys are more muscular than white guys. That’s an unpopular reality but it’s true.
by Pug on Nov 4, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree about the latino men. I live in NY, hang in the Bronx a lot, Latino men are no more naturally muscular than whites. Black AMERICANS, on average but not all, usually are.
There is a reason, it’s called the “Middle Passages”. Only the strong physcially could survive that, and slavery in general. Notice that African men aren’t as muscular on average as African American men. If you took the average white dude, and white MMA figthers and football players (what I’m getting at is strong white guys), and put them through that in the millions…who would you put money on coming out on average and passing on their genes.
Sorry, but its true. That’s just history and science.
by Damn on Nov 4, 2008 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Latino people do tend to be fairly strong, and sometimes cut, but not overly muscular. Many are rather small. Just look at boxing’s weight classes. The small classes are filled to the brim with latino fighters, but there are very few heavyweights.
by naturalshadow on Nov 4, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, name the “science” that it supposedly is because in my opinion you are talking out yer ass. All the stuff about slaves being bred stronger is crap. I don’t believe scientist have found a strong gene, correct me if I’m wrong. Living in California I have seen lots of fat black, white, and brown people.
by FightinRoundtheWorld on Nov 5, 2008 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, learn basic genetics and history. Also, read my comment over again. I never said they were “bred strong”, I referred to natural selection that did that. If a small white man was competing with Brock Lesnar in the survival game through what slaves went through, who do you think would live longer, being better able to fight off disease, famine, overworking, etc?
It wouldn’t be the non-athletic guy, it would be brock lesnar. Who would breed with a white woman like, say, Brooke Hogan (look at her father). Now what do you think the baby wuold look like?
by Damn on Nov 5, 2008 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually they were “bred strong.” slave owners would “breed” the biggest male with a big female in hopes of getting bigger, stronger offspring. It’s a fact!!
by kevin on Nov 5, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it’s ANOTHER MYTH that black guys are more muscular! That being said, Brock is 100% correct about the stereotype!
He was not being racist, he is just telling the truth………..except for him not being on steroids! lol
Let’s not forget that blacks take steriods too! DUH! Although I bet some simpletons will read this post and disagree!
by Bla Bla on Nov 8, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kevin aka simpleton,
Blacks are NOT more muscular! Race is NOT an issue when it comes to muscle! ONLY SIMPLETONS WOULD DISAGREE!
Yes, skin color does aid in the appearance of muscle size. Example: Bodybuilders tan before a show to look more ripped and bigger. That is a reason blacks, due to dark skin, appear to look bigger. Obviously the myth itself seems to be the main reason that belief continues to stick.
by Bla Bla on Nov 8, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Brock is under the impression that only black guys can get “ripped” (which he is NOT…I might add), because they (and he) have “great genetics”…the rest of us white guys must have bad genetics.
I hate this clown.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mania, please don’t moderate non-offensive comments[i bet this would get posted instantly]…freedom of speech man.
by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"] on Nov 4, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ur a clown…y u hate him cuz hes takin over the ufc by storm in 2 fights…and he lost one…lol
by Xtremecouture15 on Nov 4, 2008 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the man says he didn’t do it, just believe him. I would never offend a man of that size.
by c-war on Nov 4, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually race has everything to do with everything these days in america at least. it is considered racism to look cross ways at a black man these days much less question their character.
by day1er on Nov 4, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Lesnar means anything bad, but a rocket scientist he is not.
by CL on Nov 4, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
black guys have less bodyfat that’s why they’re muscles look bigger…
by RoB on Nov 4, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because he thinks for some stupid reason that being black or whites a difference… Their’s TONS OF black ppl that use juice.. and plz THAT PICTURE of brock shows he’s a juicer.. don’t believe me.. compaire that picture of WWE to the picture of him UFC and just look at the difference, he still doesn’t look as shredded as he did in WWE and he trains A HELL OF alot more now that he is in the UFC.. great genetics YES, mixed with GH YES!!! equalls brock lesnar.. he may not be doing it now but he sure as hell did it in the past..
by ricky on Nov 4, 2008 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Juicing does NOT add or improve your skill set, so who cares?
Example : Leben, Chris.
Most athletes juice at one time or another.
I still like Alves, Leben, Brock, Sherk, etc.
And Brock, keep the racial demographic theories to yourself.
Same thing to all of the “race genetic genuises” posting here.
When one of you gets an MD/PHD in bio-genetics then drop some knowledge…
Keep it to MMA.
by OJR on Nov 5, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
may now he dont that he is on mma. but im sure he did when he was wrestling
by zeeh on Nov 4, 2008 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1st off, shredded uh NO! He is not maybe in his hey day of popping needles in his butt with the rest of the pretend drama wrestlers. He is such a 1 dimensional idiot I hope Randy hurts him maybe then he will stop speaking in 3rd person. Then put big Nog against him and get him out of the UFC he can then train with Kimbo at backyard BBQ’s for money.
by Qmonster on Nov 4, 2008 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
listen, I have no doubt in my mind he’s juiced in the past, zero! But he is noticeably not as ripped as he used to be. this leads me to believe he is no longer juicing. there is a difference between wwe and mma, wwe is entertainment, you don’t see as many “fat” wrasslers anymore (like when I was a kid). I would say 80%+ of wwe guys juice. They are on the road 300 days a year, and I think it would be impossible to get those physiques while always traveling and keep them without a little help.
Alves on the other hand failed, yes it was a diuretic that masks steroids, but lets not be ignorant and stupid and put 2 and 2 together.
as far as some of you saying steroids or performance enhancing drugs don’t help, go troll somewhere else, or read a book or article on steroids. If they didn’t help or give an edge, why would anyone use them? why hasn’t anyone hit 65+ home runs lately? Don’t be ignorant or try to disagree on things that aren’t opinion!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 4:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who disagreed with you?
You’re agruing with people that haven’t even posted yet lol.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
go read the other steroid thread (leben), guys were saying they don’t mind and it doesn’t help. sorry intro for jumping the gun!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve done test before, so I can’t hate. MMA is leading the way as far as anabolic testing in professional sports goes. Especially Nevada’s commission doing randoms. I agree maybe only ten percent are clean, but innocent until proven guilty.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i do agree james, i would rather the guilty get away than the innocent be tarnished when they haven’t.
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ROY. if only 10% are clean and 90% are using, how is it cheating?
by b.w. on Nov 4, 2008 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i never said anything about cheating, i am more conerned with the health risks they take than the advantage they get from them.i do beleave the 70% or probally more have used or are using.
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep – even I have used steroids & I’m not even a mma fighter (I took a steroid shot in the ass only once – but whose counting)
by Anger Jack on Nov 4, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i used steroids every week. the Albuterol in my asthma medication is a steroid.
by kitsunex on Nov 4, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously roids don’t give you that much of an advantage, just ask Chris Leben!
by IhitU.uHITfloor on Nov 4, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
test gives you an insane mental and physical advantage. The differnce in what you can do in the gym is crazy. I would never recommend doing them, but the only way you can fully understand is to do them. I did a 10 week cycle, 1cc of test per week. Went from 150 t0 185. Afeter I stopped juice for a while i lost ten lbs. but the rest I kept. This was about 4 yrs ago. Of course I was working out 5 days a week and taking protein shakes in between meals.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
James, that’s one thing many don’t realize, the mental advantage. I would say it would be equal to or greater than the physical advantage. Out of all the different sports out there, I would say a fighter would benifit the most by taking steroids.
by Gord on Nov 4, 2008 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When HGH is detectable he’ll be singing a different tune…..along with 50% of all fighters.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it is detectable, with blood tests. I think EVERY athlete should have to submit 2 blood samples a year, 6 months apart. the only problem is cost, but that is total BS in my opinion. look at what the average athlete makes, then look at your elite stars. I’m guessing they could take 1% of the average pay for all professional athletes, and it would more than cover testing for pros and college sports. It’s all a cop out for a few simple reasons. americans like home runs, heads over rims and big hits in football. If they all of a sudden started testing everyone for ALL substances, the games would be back to being played like the 1980’s…
THE RIGHT WAY!!!!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right (the blood test thing)…I should have clarified that it isn’t detectable by just pee tests.
If the UFC wants to act like they are “doing their own testing”, but not testing for the most common steroid on the market, they are just playing everyone for fools by not doing blood tests.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep – even I have used steroids & I’m not even a mma fighter (I took a steroid shot in the butt only once – but whose counting)
by Anger Jack on Nov 4, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA! You took it in the butt…
by IhitU.uHITfloor on Nov 4, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a steroid shot in my ass once too, but a doctor gave it to me for muscle inflamation. I hated it. You can feel it shooting through your body.
by c-war on Nov 4, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes – irrepairable angryness is with me now for good.
Kids – do not take steroids – ever;
Do not let the angryness overtake you
by Anger Jack on Nov 5, 2008 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HGH is a natural product produced by your pituitary gland. there are no levels of it marking an illegal substance at all. there not really considered a “steroid” of sorts or performance enhancement drug. HGH can do two things increase muscle mass or increase height. so it 50/50 deal. HGH is labeled as a supplement in herbal medicine. Now there is a synthetic injection available to you but it can only be made available thru prescription of a doctor and Medical board are highly scrutinizing when ever it is prescribed. Now we cant get into the side effects of using it. which alot of fighter show no signs of only case i can see is Antonio Silva.
Mentioned here are just some of the known side effects of the undue use of HGH.
- Acromegaly (as described in detail above) Premature death (in case of acromegaly)
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- Heart enlargement (due to prolonged use of HGH. Can’t be reversed) Low blood sugar with risk of going into a diabetic coma
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- Excessive hair growth all over the body Excessive water retention**
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- Liver damage** Thyroid damage**
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**These 3 reasons specifically is why its redundent to use as a performance enhancer….water retention makes it much harder and more dangerous to cut weight 24 hrs prior to a fight. thyroid as well will cause abnormal surges in water weight and fat retention. liver damage..is just simple to see and detect and will also have severe effects to your bodies ability to produce fresh blood than can carry oxygen to your lungs.
by santiago69us on Nov 4, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah’ but anyone who has taken it will tell you it is the best fat burner out there and they are probably right.
by Gord on Nov 4, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whats that gotta do with it being used as a “steroid” and 80% of fighter using it?
by santiago69us on Nov 5, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BOW..check it up man..the symptoms i copied them from a medical website. and i checked wiki and personal blogs about using it…ITS FACT!!! tard!
by santiago69us on Nov 5, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually weed promotes estrogen.
by naturalshadow on Nov 4, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah! And listen to the Beatles!
by Syd[a.k.k. "The Negation"] on Nov 4, 2008 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His muscles are inversely proportionate to his class.
by Harry Triangle on Nov 4, 2008 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He sure sounds outRAGED about the whole subject.
by Capt. Doug on Nov 4, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brock is a beast by nature. Like Joe Rogan said, “Steroids don’t make your hands grow” But I sure he has supplemented his diet before
by Don on Nov 4, 2008 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
…nor do steroids make your head bigger, or penis smaller.
Rogan’s statement about Brock’s hands is just as irrelevant as any of those myths.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brock Lesnar should have finished some sort of formal EDUCATION beyond highschool and he would not be so stupid to say, “if I was a black guy….” WHAT A TOOL!!!!!!!
by adam on Nov 4, 2008 4:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he may have attended a class or two in between NCAA wrestling championships.
by PW on Nov 4, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People accuse Bobby Lashely of being a roid user. I have ever heard people talk about it with Rashad…..pretty sure that race has nothing to do with roid accusations. This is especially true in Brocks case. He is a monster. As far as the idea that blacks are stronger than whites………I don’t think it’s true. But whatever, the stereotype is there.
by RyanHobbs on Nov 4, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HGH never comes up in drug tests.
Can’t think of anyone who’s been caught for using it, especially not designer versions.
Which I guess means nobody in MMA does HGH? haha.. yeah right.
by DirtyML on Nov 4, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My guess would be about 80% of fighters 185lbs and up.
Go ahead and hate me for saying it, but I believe GSP, Brock, Alves, Kongo, Rampage, Wandy, Coleman, (many others) get “help” by some form of HGH.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GSP and Rampage don’t look like they juice at all, come on now, I know 10-15 guys built like GSP, who don’t juice. You’re really not paying attention or you’re a poor judge of character if you think a guy like GSP would get any satisfaction from cheating. Just because a guy is a little muscular, doesn’t mean he’s cranking. However, Brock, Alves and Colman are MORE than a little muscular. Guys with tallent and good genetics like GSP don’t have to juice. It’s guys like Leben and Franca (who don’t have the genetics) that feel they need to.
by Gord on Nov 4, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i will say that franca claimed to use due to an injury and he tried to back out of the sherk fight, but dana,pretty much, would not let him back out(it was a little before the lw division got stacked). im not condoning what he did, but i have noticed latley that dana has been letting guys back out of fights on short notice with injuries instead of pressuring them to fight. as far as leben goes, he has no excuses.
by b.w. on Nov 5, 2008 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya sure Gord……you just happen to know which guys have good genetics? lol that’s funny. How do you know? Did you used to hang out with GSP’s grandfather or something? lol….funny stuff.
by introvert on Nov 5, 2008 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How STUPID was this comment. What next Brock? I hope you lose!!!
by ramsam on Nov 4, 2008 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
First Matt Hughes ignorant comments about Obama. Now Brock’s yapping about if I was black OMG!!! Maybe you Americans should invest even more in your educational programs intead of wrestling programs.
by Wellington on Nov 4, 2008 4:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No need to play the nationality card here dude.
by Syd[a.k.k. "The Negation"] on Nov 4, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1st off, shredded uh NO .. he is not maybe in his hey day of popping needles in his butt with the rest of the pretend drama wrestlers… he is such a 1 dimensional idiot I hope Randy hurts him maybe then he will stop speaking in 3rd person… then put big Nog against him and get him out of the UFC he can then train with Kimbo at backyard BBQ’s for money..
by Qmonster on Nov 4, 2008 4:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope they pop him after UFC 91 for steroids.
R.I.P [BROCK LESNAR]
by couture on Nov 4, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe he never used roids but am sure he got busted or was caught with growth hormone so dont think all his massive hand and balling ball head is natural
by ruan-fiy on Nov 4, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maniacs:
I am full blown pride Pothead.. through the good and the bad times of my life.. pot has been there for me. I have had numerous drug tests for jobs in the past and I have come up “0” times positive for weed..I would go as far as burning a leaf the night of my drug test.. I would just wake up.. and sip on a special drink..so if I never tested positve for weed …I never really took a pull off a blunt.. ever.. right?
by PhilQNY on Nov 4, 2008 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Again, right! The only difference I can think of is Brock didn’t detail how he likes to juice all of the time before saying that he has never failed a test. lol
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did your employer come in and had you a cup and tell you to piss in it? well thats what the commission does and has done with their random testing as of late.
by kitsunex on Nov 4, 2008 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do they hold your dick in the cup? Because if they don’t , you could have one of your (clean) buddies piss in a bladder with a little hose on it and stick it in your shorts. The guy is standing right behind you as you (make it look like you)piss in the cup. I think they make them with batteries in them to keep the piss warm, to really make it seem legit. This is just one of the MANY ways to beat the test.
by Gord on Nov 4, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can also have a fake dick! My friend got one out of high times mag. He was on paroll and they watched him pee. It’s pretty cool. Looks real and has a warming pack that holds the clean piss that keeps it @ body temp. It worked everytime!
by BOW on Nov 5, 2008 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My friend got this cool kit from high times mag. Looks just like a real penis and has a warming pack foor the piss. He was on paroll and it worked every time!!!
by BOW on Nov 5, 2008 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad, first post was in moderation, I guess
by BOW on Nov 5, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Phil, thanks for the “Ready Clean” advice!
by Syd[a.k.k. "The Negation"] on Nov 4, 2008 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ur welcome Bro.. I fully endorse this product.
by PhilQNY on Nov 5, 2008 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly Phil!!! Same here bro, the night before and all is well! Guess i’m not a smoker! Brought this up yesterday, thought john made that comment way back, but it was you. Way off topic, but what about OJ? I guess he didn’t do it, huh brock? BURN ON FELLOW BURNERS!!!
by BOW on Nov 5, 2008 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
didnt he get caught with a box of hgh or steroids when he was in college by police?
by eko_unltd on Nov 4, 2008 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no, while he was in wwe, charges were dropped. he said they were supplements, but IMO they were HGH!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dout it kevin, normally i would say yeah they where steroids or hgh and they dropped the charges to cover up for a high profile college athlete but they where pills and where tested if it was something injectable i would say no dout it was.of course steroids come in pill but any pro athlete using isn’t going to mess with that when they could use the injectable for the same crime.
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by JimmieGreens on Nov 4, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i am pretty sure it was originally thought to be hgh, but they found it to be just suplements.
by onthebutton on Nov 4, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ofcourse he has used steroids; you’ll notice he said: “I’ve never failed a drug TEST”, and did NOT say: “I’ve never taken steroids”….
We all know pro wrestlers (WWE, etc) take them!
Not that it matters now anyways, if he’s testing clean, then he’s clean, plain and simple. He’s just sick of hearing it now that he no longer uses… eventhough I do think it’s total BS that he says/implies that he NEVER used steroids, yeah right Lesnar!
by JS on Nov 4, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He sounds like a winy little pre-teen complaining about it (not that I would tell it to his face – but it looks & sounds like the tantrums my 8 year old sometimes throws)
by Anger Jack on Nov 4, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He always answers the question, “I have never failed a drug test.” Why not just say, I never used steroids? The answer is very obvious on the E60 episode when he gets up and walks away before the question is even finished being asked.
by JtP on Nov 4, 2008 4:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He used to be shredded, he actually looks deflated and flabby now.
by Ixian on Nov 4, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly! He never failed a drug test because he was only super shedded in the WWE, where they don’t test for steriods. He’s still huge, but not shedded.
by SilasM on Nov 4, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anybody notice how he doesnt deny using steriods,he just keeps saying “I’ve never failed a test”.
by knee to the nads on Nov 4, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ive never failed a drug test either,but that doesnt mean i dont smoke weed
by knee to the nads on Nov 4, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The perfect case in point is Chiek Kongo, I mean look at the guy he would probably be just another basketball like bodytype if it werent for steroids but yet no one accuses him….
by Colin D on Nov 4, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
YAY BROCK USES HGH…I USE HGH….HGH IS NOT ILLEGAL …AND IT MAKES ALL SKELETAL STRUTURE GROW AS WELL AS HELPS HEALING PROCESS….HAS BEEN THEORIZED BUT NOT PROVEN TO INCREASE CARDIO FUNCTIONS…..
AAAAARGH
by SALAMI on Nov 4, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes it is illegal without a prescription just like steroids
by roy on Nov 4, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It also makes cancer grow faster and causes joint swelling, joint pain, carpal tunnel syndrome, and an increased risk of diabetes.
It has a lot of benefits however.
by DirtyML on Nov 4, 2008 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see that Lesnar is “enlightened”. Like I needed another reason to think he’s an asshole.
by RogueSpear on Nov 4, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love how any athlete who HAS used performance enhancing drugs (steroids or HGH) always always always claim that they have never failed a drug test. Guilty people are always extremely quick to point that out. Just because you do not ever fail drug tests doesn’t mean that you do not use steroids. THEY CALL IT CYCLING FOR A REASON. CYCLE FOR 6 WEEKS, GET CLEANED UP AND TAKE TEST.
by Kevin Kelly on Nov 4, 2008 5:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This guy is such an ass. Hope Randy takes his head off.
by Killvicious on Nov 4, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Until he fails a test I don’t think he’s used. I think he is smaller now due to the difference in training between the WWE and MMA. While in the WWE he probably focused more on his muscle building than anything else and now for mma that is probably the least of his focus. I just don’t like to accuse or make assumptions on what I think I do or don’t know.
by rydinlow on Nov 4, 2008 5:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Some of these comments are a joke. Some of you have no clue. I have been a nutrionist and a Health Teacher for 13 years. What amazes me is that people think that Black and White are still the same genetically. The amount of fast twitch muscle fibers is far greater in the Black athlete. It is not racist, it is true. Also, go back and look at Brock’s college pictures. He has always been huge. He was not on steriods in college and HGH was not even on the scene when he was in high school or JC. He is a huge freak of nature. That does exist clean, trust me.
by GOAT on Nov 4, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Biosynthetic HGH has been around since 1985.
by DirtyML on Nov 4, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and you are saying a poor boy from the Dakato’s could get his hands on designer drugs like that?
by GOAT on Nov 4, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for posting, completely agree.
by brandon on Nov 4, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arny was doing steroids way before Brock was in College.
Or was he the only one in the world that could get them?
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All true. Well said. Brock was a monster at 16. Check out the photos! He may well have been on steroids during his WWE tenure. Its common knowledge that they pretty much all use. They have to, they’re on the road 300 days a year.
He probably isn’t now since he doesn’t need any additional strength or power advantage, he’s already the most dynamic mma fighter. What he needs is skills. I think the whole roids thing with Lesnar is a non issue. He is actually a freak of nature. Look at the size of him back in 1999 in the NCAA.
Still I take a firm stance on cheats. 2nd offence = life ban.
I’m disgusted by the cheats and I assure you an awful lot of them are on illegal performance enhancing substances. I don’t want to throw out names but it’s not to difficult to figure out who the main culprits are. Some of them I have zero respect for. Why can’t they all be like BJ lol? Got to love his stance on the users.
by RobH86 on Nov 4, 2008 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry but you are very incorrect. Black and white genes are identical. You could not look at the gene sequence for a white person and be able to tell the difference between theirs and a black person. Maybe you teach health in Utah or Nebraska or something where they also still refuse to accept evolution.
by sp00ner1234 on Nov 5, 2008 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hope couture breaks lesnar’s big “non-steroid-enhanced” arm.
by B_Hos on Nov 4, 2008 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea ok brock..i sure believe ya on that.lol
by patrick on Nov 4, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That picture just adds to my opinion that he has juiced in the past. That’s when he was “shredded”, I would not say that he does not look like that now and is no longer using steroids. Whatever the case, the comment he made makes him look like more of a meathead. Just say you have never used, but why bring race into the equation? What a douche.
by Casey on Nov 4, 2008 5:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You noticed that he said he never failed a drug test…but he neglected 2 mention wheather or not he took steriods or not
by XxShogunXx on Nov 4, 2008 5:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I see what you are saying. I didn’t see your post before.
by JaSwin420 on Nov 4, 2008 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this guy is a stupid idiot pint proven randy plese knock this bum out
by joe on Nov 4, 2008 6:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it weird that he never actually claims he’s never taken steroids? He instead claims to have never failed a drug test. Ever heard of “getting your oil changed”?
by JaSwin420 on Nov 4, 2008 7:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He really should have known better than to bring race into this. A lot of black sports stars have been targeted for steroid use. Hell, the most prominent example, black or white, is Barry frickin’ Bonds. I think a more adequate measure of being targeted for steroid use involves fame or achievement. Someone like Bonds gets a lot of attention for steroids because he is famous and has various record achievments. The same with Brock.
by Saint Gasoline on Nov 4, 2008 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I Quoted This First On The Post Talking ABout He Was Gonna Be On The Radio Show…
Noby Wanted To Talk About IT
Now Over 100 Posts On This One
Haha
by Hotdamn on Nov 4, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
to question a guy who has never had a positive test is very unfair
there is nothing wrong nor racist about his statement about black people having better genetics in terms of building muscle than a lot of white folk
its to do with coming from a line of manual labourers, and therefore evolving in such a way that future generations were stronger and better at what they did
the genetic freak white males that you see are frequently from a long line of farmers ie brock and matt hughes
if you are going to hate on guys that use performance enhancers and are cheaters atleast direct your hate toward those who test positive… to question a guy who is 100#% innocent until a test proves otherwise is ludicrous
if he did ever take anything in wwe days then its none of our business… guys like bonnar sherk franca sylvia etc who have been tested positive are all back in the cage within a year… so to try to drag up things that he might of used several years ago is completely unfair
when hes the world heavyweight champion you better start showing him some respect
by bigjohn on Nov 4, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The WWE wanted and encouraged their meatheads to take steriods, and Vince Mccan never tested his guys anyway, and we he had to if the wrestler failed the test all he said if it was prescribed by a doctor it was ok and not a reason to be fined or suspended. If anyone thinks that Lesnar never took roids give your head a shake.
by Bigmcmac on Nov 4, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
From, what I hear, Vince and the WWE staff don’t push steroids and illegal substances on their performers. What they do is they just give the bigger, more cut performers a bigger “push” (more TV time, better pay). More likely than not, these guys are the ones on steroids. It’s like a boss who doesn’t ask female employees for “favours”, but promotes the ones who do!
by Pat on Nov 5, 2008 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont give a rats ass whether he juiced in wwe or not, as long as he’s not doing it now im happy. on the racsist note, imagine if a black man had said somerthing similar about whites we would all go “hell ya, tell it like it is brotha” but if a white person even say black he is a racsist. if anything think of it as a compliment that black men tend to look more cut. look at the rampage/griffin fight. skinny tall white guy vs muscle man rampage.
by Egads on Nov 4, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how come he always answers— i NEVER TESTED POSITIVE and why not i have never used juice in my life….also he said he’s just genetically muscular…then just use i have never used line…your FOREHEAD And ELONGATED ARMS disagree with him hahaha
by pop on Nov 4, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
2morrows Headline " MMa fighter Brock Lesnar seen at Obamma party doing the chicken dance"
by kimura pain on Nov 4, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
barack as pres on nov 4, bbbrrrooocccckkkk world champ on nov 15.
by Buttcrack Obama bin Laden on Nov 4, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He may have never touched roids, but they have certainly touched him with a needle in the ass or perhaps the shoulder area.
by yoububg on Nov 4, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BROCK IS A BIG JUICE HEAD!
HE TOOK STEROIDS, GH, AND ANYTHING HE COULD GET HIS HANDS ON.
WHAT A BLOATED LIAR!!
by bob on Nov 4, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WHAT A PICTURE TO HAVE ON THE “I DID NOT” RAGE COMMENT!
BTW IM A BROCK FAN AND PICKING HIM TO BEAT COTOURE, BEEN WATCHING HIM SINCE WWE DAYS!
BROCK SHOULD WRITE A “IF I ROIDED, HERES HOW I WOULD HAVE” BOOK!
by SoCalStunNa on Nov 5, 2008 1:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That picture was taken right at the moment
his “nutritionist” was jabbing the needle in his ass.
by observer on Nov 5, 2008 2:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I heard he takes HGH (horse growth horomone) What ever. actually I could care less if any mma fighter is on some sort of juice. because they are in a sport where there may be severe injuries at any moment. let them all do it and the lies and speculation can end.
by Brian "Leben's Chin #1" with ROIDS on Nov 5, 2008 9:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone listened to 1st half of the show?
It’s the stupides thing I have heard – “yeah lets pay guys like 40K for 1st round finish, 30K 2nd round, 20K 3rd round”
So if it is championship then 10K 4th & 0 for 5th round finish???
IMHO – it does not matter as much which round they finish the fight – but they finish; 3rd round KO can be as satisfying (sometimes even more) than 1st round finish.
Though I agree that UFC should pay more aggressively for KO finishes (etc you will only get win bonus if you finish the fight – otherwise your bonus money is going to be shared by guys who did finish their opponents).
Although I have many things to say about DW – idiot is not one of them & hopefully he will figure out the way to deliver more exciting fights with great finishes soon (a’la pay Brock or Randy big bucks to avoid 5 round decision)
by Anger Jack on Nov 5, 2008 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone listened to 1st half of the show?
It’s the stupides thing I have heard – “yeah lets pay guys like 40K for 1st round finish, 30K 2nd round, 20K 3rd round”
So if it is championship then 10K 4th & 0 for 5th round finish???
IMHO – it does not matter as much which round they finish the fight – but they finish; 3rd round KO can be as satisfying (sometimes even more) than 1st round finish.
Though I agree that UFC should pay more aggressively for KO finishes (etc you will only get win bonus if you finish the fight – otherwise your bonus money is going to be shared by guys who did finish their opponents).
Although I have many things to say about DW – dummy is not one of them & hopefully he will figure out the way to deliver more exciting fights with great finishes soon (a’la pay Brock or Randy big bucks to avoid 5 round decision)
by Anger Jack on Nov 5, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You are on roids Brock stop lying. I hope your happy Brock you piece of shit. Your on roids just like my old boss Vince. And fuck Dusty Rhodes another piece of shit I hope your happy Dusty Rhodes you piece of shit you killed Eddie Graham.
by billy jack haynes on Nov 14, 2008 3:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesnar is withot a doubt the biggest piece of human shit in ALL of sports. Not only is this bloated fag a MAJOR roid user and HGH junkie, this bitch is dumb as a fucking brick, no offense to bricks. I hate this asshole. Nobody is jelous of Brock, Brock is jelous of strongmen who DON’T have a chemicaly altered prostate the the size of a grapefruit.
by brockonmycock on Jun 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock uses steroids thats for sure, we should ask him how he manages to clear drug tests everytime.That in itself is an amazing feat. The only time he could have done steroids and got away with it was in wwe(that i can understand).But how he did that in college, nfl and now in ufc is just brilliant. But Arnold did steroids as did the other bodybuilders of his time. That doesnt mean that he was that good only because of steroids. Steroids can only help you peak for a competition and cannot be the reason you why you are so good. Hard work and genetics play the most important role and not steroids in making super muscle.
by john on Jul 3, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really dont care if he’s on steroids or not. He’s just such a fucking prick I hate him. I think I might hate his fans even more though, just because most of them are just old WWE fans who dont really know anything about MMA. We need Fedor to shut him up when his Afliction contract expires. If anyones going to beat him its gonna be him.
by Chand on Jul 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I’ve never failed a drug test.”
What drug were they testing for??
There are some athletic events where the tests only cover cocaine and pot. Quite a world apart from performance enhancing drugs.
by Pappyo on Jul 12, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DID you ever do a hair sample drug test fat head lesnar
by Mike on Jul 24, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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