MMA fighters on Election Day 2008 (Video)
by MMAmania.com on Nov 4, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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Let's not go nuts here like the Hughes/Obama thread otherwise we'll shut down the comments section again.
It's interesting to hear some feedback from several fighters on their respective choices and the reasons behind those choices. In case you didn't know, today is Election Day in the United States.
For more head over to Sherdog.com, which includes a more detailed explanation from Karo Parisyan (he holds back in the video above).
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Shame on your wife, Trigg, for being a Cubs fan.
Pretty cool video though.
by Dayvet on Nov 4, 2008 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cubs have more tradition then most baseball teams, Cubs all the way! (well at least to 1st round playoffs)
by MikeD on Nov 4, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man better luck wtih those cubs in the next 100 years. lol
by onthebutton on Nov 4, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol yea i know, I come to accept many things being a Cubs fan. But Wrigley Field is a blast and I love their stadium and team.
by MikeD on Nov 4, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe this is the right forum. I don’t really like either candidate, but it doesn’t matter because Obama already won! McCain would tax the middle class more and let the rich keep their money. My dad always votes republican for this reason, he is so pissed to have to vote for a “pompous ass like McCain” today, especially with a woman who shouldn’t live in Washington, never mind being one heart attack away from running it.
Obama…I don’t trust him! Any man who is mentored by and looks up to a man who spits forth hatred towards america and whites, and only distances himself after being nominated, in my opinion can’t be trusted. As far as politics goes, I like Obama’s ideas and policies, but don’t trust him. It’s a lose/lose, one may die in office, and one has a good shot at being assassinated.
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I was American I wouldnt have a clue who to vote for, both are bad in my eyes. It would just be choosing the lesser of the two evils. As MMA is my biggest hobby and I cant imagine life without it (not in a suicidal way _) I aint voting for McCain. But Obama is so fake and phony. Wants to pussy out of middle east and let terrorists run loose. I vote UKIP or conservative in UK. UKIP baby!
by Adam on Nov 4, 2008 1:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually McCain isn’t against MMA with the current rules in place. He has said it isn’t his cup of tea but it is no longer “human cockfighting” as it was in the begining
by staples on Nov 4, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats how out of date he is hes a billion years old…obama change that we all despreatly need…
by skoler1 on Nov 4, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McCain hasn’t spoken against it in years dude.
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 4, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What changes are you expecting. When has any President made any slight change in your life? If its change you looking for, it’s got to start with you. I don’t know how much your life does or doesn’t suck, but if you’re expecting Obama ( or any pres for that matter) to help with your depsperate needs don’t hold your breath.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great post james, no ones going to give you anything… you gotta take it
by brendan on Nov 5, 2008 2:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Politics usually works out being the lesser of evils. UKIP, however are really evil! I don’t know where you got this stuff about Obama letting terrorists run loose and McCain isnt anti-MMA.
by BritishBulldog on Nov 4, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why are we in Iraq to begin with? sadam Hussein? there are 100’s of dictators just as or more brutal than he was, but we’re not there. There is zero reason to be in this war but oil, and we’re not getting that. Me personally, I would have nuked Iran and Iraq, stole their oil and saved american lives and money!!!
by kevin on Nov 4, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For anyone who has not voted yet and intending to, don’t base it on MMA and certainly not what any of these knuckleheads have to say.
As far as McCain on the MMA topic, he has actually been complimentary of the sport. His comments early (“human cockfighting”) led to the revamping of the sport as we know it today. He has since stated when asked about MMA that the sanctioning and weight classes has allowed for better organization and fighter safety and no longer opposes it or has any plans to work with legislation to ban it.
Shocking that Karo would not have a clue who McCain is!
by PJJ on Nov 4, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Wants to pussy out of the middle east and let terrorist run loose.” Is this what the foreign policy of America has come down to? I hope not, it sounds way too much like an ignorant macho mentality. I don’t understand why we don’t listen to the terrorist who are attacking us. They love that we are in the middle east because it makes it so much easier to recruit new terrorist. For every one that we kill, there are two to take his/her place. Besides, there are so many terrorist factions, that eliminating terrorism is like trying to grab smoke. There are more efficient way to reduce terrorism, war is not the answer.
by Blazing Arrow on Nov 5, 2008 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One more reason for me to not like Karo and Frank.
“I can’t tell you why…I’m going with Obama and not McCain.” – Karo
I think Karo is a good representation of most Obama supporters.
by RealDrew on Nov 4, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JV, I hope you get used to Obama being president…or move to a different country.
by MikeD on Nov 4, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt Vote! My brother was going to vote for Barak, and I was going to Vote for McCain so we figured we would both not vote and it woulud just cancel each other out.
Same thing right!
by john on Nov 4, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
John, I have been pulling that one for weeks now!
I just say “We will have to agree to disagree and our votes cancel each other out. Make you a deal, you don’t vote and I won’t vote and we can just skip the long lines. deal?”
That makes my vote worth alot more depending on how many people actually stay home while I am voting.
by SaVaGe on Nov 4, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about senators and congressmen John? Those are the ones who make the real decisions. You should still go out and vote for those elected officials.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The skeleton in Couture’s closet is that he’s been ducking Nog at every turn using convenient excuses.
by NameNotRequired on Nov 4, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN RIGHT Namenotrequired! He is frieghtened of Nogueira. Nog would pick Randy apart in the stand up or out class him on the ground and Randy is fully aware of that, so he prefers to fight fighters with 3 total fights under their belts. Only place Randy would have an advantage is in the clinch, but If Randy clinches it will open up for Nogs stellar ju jitsu trips!
Randy cant Hide forever~!
by john on Nov 4, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well.. not forever.. just till his AARP.. kicks in.
by PhilQNY on Nov 4, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he cheated on his ex wife many many times
by brendan on Nov 5, 2008 2:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“He is frieghtened of Nogueira.”
Hahaha, get real man! Look at who Couture is fighting in just over a week (Lesnar), and your of the opinion Nog ‘scares’ him?
Couture has said many times that to be a true champion you have to fight the best; he has definately proved that time and time again.
Wake up!
by JS on Nov 5, 2008 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Hughes is the perfect representation of a McCain supporter.
Karo is a good representation of most voters, for either party.
by JoshuaThomas on Nov 4, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that is one thing we can all agree on, Karo is an idiot.
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 4, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Matt Hughes is the perfect representation of a McCain supporter.”
Was that comment intended to be a jab at McCain’s supporters? I’ll take it as a complement. Matt Hughes is a success. Just because you disagree with his views doesn’t make him any less of a success. He was one of the best fighters on the planet for years. He’s a family man and he’s worked hard for what he’s achieved. I would consider myself a success if I’ve achieved what Matt Hughes has.
by RealDrew on Nov 4, 2008 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One could argue that W. is a “success” as well. I mean he was (is) president. Success does not necessarily equate with anything else positive. W. is a douche, Hughes is a douche. They both like to pump themselves up by way of putting down others. They both think that they’re an authority on what’s right and wrong, when both are shining examples of how you should not treat others.
by RogueSpear on Nov 4, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think he doesnt say why because his respect towards his fans..he doesnt know who we support nor doe she care. JV…“I think Karo is a good representation of most Obama supporters.” in my mind your a misrepresentation of most republicans…horribly ignorant.one minded. mccain i like cuz he is open minded but no one is voting for mccain for mcain thwey are voting for the people he has workign for him…racist, elitist, successionist hard line right wing. funny when democrats lower taxes its to help the poor. but when republican do it..its the best thing in the world.
by santiago69us on Nov 4, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously Santiago…I want to have a discussion with you, but you really need to learn how to proof read.
by RealDrew on Nov 4, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One more reason for me to not like Karo and Frank.
"I can’t tell you why…I’m going with Obama and not McCain." – Karo
I think Karo is a good representation of most Obama supporters.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
by texen_1 on Nov 4, 2008 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Listen. If anyone has a general understanding of politics and not just voting bc of race or bc Obama is a very god public speaker they ould know that McCains stnd on MMA has dramatically changed since the 90s. Hell he was right it was cock fighting. He said and i quote “MMA has evolved into one of the biggest sports in america. What the owners have done with thie sport is remarkable and have made it more marketable to viewers. The rules implemented for the new MMA are crucial to its success”. end quote. Hes not against it at all.
by Charr552 on Nov 4, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So McCain is a flip-flopper?
Must be = “he was against mma before he was for it”
by Anger Jack on Nov 4, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im with rosholt on the reason to vote mccain obama banning assault rifles is stupid
by randy murders on Nov 4, 2008 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would like to confess that I have just been fooling around.
Vote OBAMA!!!!
by JV on Nov 4, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That is not me ^ its a cow@rd who has to hide his real name!
by JV on Nov 4, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL that was you! Sorry homie, didnt mean to call you cow@rd!
by JV on Nov 4, 2008 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BNF, last night I was feeling combative and there was alot of back and forth in the Hughes/Obama thread! So I saw your post and I got fash backs! That was a good one! But for real, Vote McCain!
by JV on Nov 4, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All good, JV. I am just trying to have a little fun, people tend to get worked up when they have different views on politics. I just voted, but it doesn’t really matter who I vote for since I live in California.
by BNF on Nov 4, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There were some propositions in CA that were the main reason I went out to vote.
by BNF on Nov 4, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just wondering. how did you vote on prop 1 (the high speed train)?
by Blazing Arrow on Nov 5, 2008 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Canada and our election about a month ago didn’t get the coverage that the American candidates are getting. I guess the rest of the world is waiting to see which way States are going to go. My votes goes for free and fair elections.
by TKO on Nov 4, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love Canada and Canadians, but the reason your election got so little coverage is because Canada has less than 1% the influence that the US does in terms of world economy, world policy, world media, and world entertainment. That is not to say the US is better in anyway, just far more influencing (both good and bad) as a result of historically freer economy combined with a much larger population concentrated in a near perfect geographical situation (friendly neighbors on both sides, massive coastlines on both sides (easy to defend as well as trade), full mix of climates, ect ect). The US could not have any better neighbor than Canada though and Canada really is pretty close in all arenas except population and warm weather climates (year round warmth that is)…and Canada seems to put out the best comedians for some reason too, such a funny bunch you are!
by noneed4name on Nov 4, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Canada alot, but as far as clout, it has virtually none. American politics are covered everywhere where there is people and media due to the countries clout.
by Bill Maher on Nov 4, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Laimon is an idiot. “Your vote doesn’t count, so what does it matter?” What a f*ckin’ moron! Go and tell that to the families of all the fallen troops from the various wars and battles over the past 200+ years fighting for your freedom and democracy. What an ignorant f*ck!
I’m not even American and that pisses me off. And the sad thing is that sooooo many people think like him. Yeah, the system is flawed and corrupt and neither of the candidates is all that great. But not voting because you think is doesn’t matter? Then go and live somewhere else under a dictatorship and we’ll see if it doesn’t matter!
by JRK on Nov 4, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it, he has every right to not vote. However, by doing so he is forfeiting his right to complain about the state of the country since he’s not taking part in changing things.
by GregC on Nov 4, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to think courtures wife was sexy, but now that shes in the public eye the more she talks and the more I see here I feel differently
by dia mette on Nov 4, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m the same way. But i’ve been that way my whole life. Once they start talking and I get to know them, they seem to become less attractive. I either need to find less attractive women or mutes. Anyone here no of any single mute women. j/k
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. I got the last word in the Obama/Hughes election thread. I guess that settles the debate about who should win and why.
by DrPepper on Nov 4, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I beleive you have to be a little evil to want to be a politician in the first place…I love how typical McCain supporters still stay stuff like “Obama wants to take our guns away!! He wants to ban hunting” when it has never ever been said…The tax thing is funny as only 5% of Americans make more than what Obama plans on taxing…even in newspaper articles whenever there is a mention of Obama s tax plan they always provide a factual footnote reitierating that the Obama tax plan only applies to those at $250k and above (not Obama says this is what the plan is, rather THIS IS the plan)…that said Obama is the lesser of the 2 evils this time around….lesss do it
by CageFightingKip on Nov 4, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have not heard anyone accusing Obama of taking away hunting and guns. Is this something being stated in your local news media.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was in the video James. I love how Obama supporters say that McCain try to ban MMA. when in all actuality he tried to ban the UFC before it was “MMA”. Huge difference! The evolution of this sport has alot to do with his actions. He played a major part in sanctioning, the application of rules and weight classes. He didn’t set the sport back he actually helped push it forward.
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 4, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you not watch the video? Jake Rosholt was the one who said it. It seems to me like every other republican voter is voting against Obama under misinformation.
by Jono on Nov 4, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did not watch the video. I’m republican. I’m working. well, sort of working.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is a joke of course. I know many hard working Democrats.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not working too hard that you couldn’t post on mania… lol. J/K. Hey I’ll give it straight to everyone… I am a republican, a marine who fought in Iraq 3 times and was injured twice in combat, and I was infantry too not some pussy truck driver or something, and I am voting for Obama.
by sp00ner1234 on Nov 4, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for what you’ve done for our country. Seriously.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he was in the marines, or he would have known that the marines all fight. There are no truck driver types in the marines.
Where were you stationed, sp00ner?
by dave on Nov 5, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was said in the video whose message boards you’re commenting on
by ActionJackson on Nov 4, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well – Obama keeps talking one thing then another – I have heard a lot of numbers lately & they are all below 250k originally mentioned.
Another question is why should 5% pay more percentage of income for tax than others (if it is 5% indeed – I would not trust it to be 100% true)? [I come from a country with flat income tax; and that 5% is already paying majority of american taxes]
And finally – with economy in the toilet – raising taxes will exacerbate the situation even more (Obama even mentioned it himself)
by Anger Jack on Nov 4, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The five percent already pay larger income tax than others. The larger your salery, the higher level of tax bracket you are put into. So not only are you paying more than lower income people because you make more money, ( ex. 20,000 a yr would pay 1,000 a yr @ 5% and 200,000 a yr pays 10,000 a yr @ 5% using 5 percent as an example, not an actual taxing percentage used) but you also are bumped up to higher percentages 20,000 a yr still taxed at 5% while 200,000 is taxed at 7.5%… again example figures only. Plus people with higher income make bigger purchases meaning they also pay out larger sales tax amounts. I make roughly 30,000 a yr on paper. I pay out 1,500 througout the yr in taxes. When I file, I will get back about 6,000 in tax return and child tax credits. I am not complaining, but I can see where this logic is more of a problem than a solution.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Senator Obama does have a voting record as both an Illinois (I live in IL) and United States Senator. His record is not appealing to gun owners on this issue. For example, he is endorsed by The Brady Campaign, the largest gun control organization in the US.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/media/release.php?release=1040
He is also endorsed by the Humane Society of the US, one of the largest anti-hunting lobby organizations.
https://community.hsus.org/humane/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=27497157
This national lobby group has nothing to do with local pet shelters of the same name:
The HSUS was founded in 1954 by journalist Fred Myers and three others. HSUS founders did not seek to duplicate the efforts of hundreds of local societies working to help animals, and did not intend to operate its own animal shelters. Instead, they decided to tackle cruelties of national scope, seeking to resolve animal welfare problems by applying strategies, resources, and solutions beyond the capability of local organizations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humane_Society_of_the_United_States
I don’t care what Senator Obama has said since he decided to run for President, I care about his past voting record and his party’s record, as it is likely they will be in power.
This is only one issue, but anyone who has done their research and cares about gun rights should put this issue in the “con” column for Senator Obama.
by Nate on Nov 4, 2008 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mania, please post my comment. I was just trying to mess with one of my buddies on this site.
by BNF on Nov 4, 2008 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am wondering what keywords they use top moderate? It happens all the time with my post and I tend not to curse or post anything negative for that matter…..really don’t get it.
by Psyqo78®™ on Nov 4, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get it either and I think that is just the way Mania wants it.
by BNF on Nov 4, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this isn’t based on his choice of candidate, but i don’t think jay hieron is the sharpest tool in the shed
by ActionJackson on Nov 4, 2008 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate hughes but he is right OBAMA is a communist. HAHA
VOTE MCCain
by ktown on Nov 4, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t agree with Hughes, B U T, just b/c Hughes makes no sense, doesn’t mean that Obama is anywhere near being qualified to be President. But I guess I am an uneducated Republican with an MBA.
by Mike Z. on Nov 4, 2008 2:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, who gives a shit who the fighters voted for or think we should vote for. That goes for singers and Hollywood types too. This and every election is our election, and by our election I mean every single individual and family. Everyone go vote. Vote for the canidate that is going to help you and your family, vote for the canidate that stands for your ideals.
Let none of us be dumb enough to listen to and be swayed by any celeb or fighter and let none of them be dumb enough to be swayed by us.
Go vote.
Vote for your kids and your family.
If your under 18, just stay on Mania and post all day.
by Jeff on Nov 4, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats scary, these Obama guys need to get their heads out of their butts. Socialism is coming if Obamanation gets in. Spread the wealth? BS, if you didn’t work for it then you don’t deserve it. McCain didn’t try to ban mma, he wanted it regulated. I can’t believe these fighters are saying crap like that. Idiots! Nationalized health care, does not work, look at the countries that have it. I am a vet and go to the VA for medical issues, and that is gov. ran. Thats what it would be like if not worse. Hurry up and wait, need a surgery done, well it will be months before we can think of getting you in. For all you Obama supporters, I hope it’s your job that gets cut by the mean rich greedy companies that give many of us are lively hood after Obama taxes them to hell.
by Rubberman on Nov 4, 2008 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And oh yeah I voted for McCain and proud of it.
by Rubberman on Nov 4, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why doesn’t nationalized health not work? i’m just curious because every country that leads the US in health care has national health care. maybe our definition of working and not working are different.
by rob u on Nov 4, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The US is ranked 37th worldwide because there is a heavy amount of “fairness” weighed in the rankings. Fairness of course is seen as being much higher when everyone is covered, no matter what the quality.
Another major element is total cost…the US spends more than any nation on earth (cost/person) which is seen as a detriment.
Meanwhile, the US has the number 1 facilities, the number 3 response time (how quickly you can get things like an MRI) and the number one doctors (by a long shot). Its just that not everyone has access to them all because not everyone is insured.
From that, you might be able to make a better judgment on the topic as to how you personally would rank the US.
by noneed4name on Nov 4, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The reason our health care is so high right now is because of all the bogus lawsuits and one of the biggies is all the illegals that get free health care in this country, well it’s not really free because we pay for it on our end. Someone has to pay for it and the illegals sure don’t. I’ve been waiting on knee surgery thru the VA medical center for a year now, something that if I went thru a regular doctor could have been done within a week. Everyone I’ve heard talk from these other countries say it’s terrible. People well off in Canada come over the border to the U.S. for medical reasons because of their health system. Yeah it really sounds like it works. Go ahead and follow those idiots right off the side of the mountain. Blind leading the blind.
by Rubberman on Nov 4, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Canadians come to the US because of three reasons: 1 – if they can afford it, they can choose their doctors; 2 – there are far better specialists available in the US than in Canada; 3 – you can get expensive treatment immediately if you can afford it, whereas in Canada you have to wait in line like everyone else even if you have all the money in the world.
Otherwise, Canada has excellent coverage where you would not know the difference in quality at the basic level…and you would be covered no matter what your situation.
The US certainly is better if you have money. $12k/year gets you an excellent family plan. But if you cannot afford it, Canada is surely better.
by noneed4name on Nov 4, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got an amazing family plan for 6K a yr, and that’s one of the more expensive plans. I have a 15 dollar co pay, can see any doctor I prefer that’s in my plan network ( most all are because my ins co pays like 70cents on the dollar which is a lot compared to most ins companies) and it also includes dental and vision. I could go through cheaper HMO’s and see the doctor they want me to see and pay 4,000 a year. Plus in Oklahoma we have soonercare. I actaully qualify to get free insurance through the state, which I am thinking of switching to for 09’ just to get some dept paid off and save the extra 500 a month. 12k a yr must be with prexisting conditions. you can pay out of pocket for a lot of doctor’s visits and minor procedures with 12k a yr. would defeat the purpose of having insurance.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Typical far-right fear-mongering. Anyone who isn’t an ultra-conservative must be a pinko commie bastard.
by Joe Smith on Nov 4, 2008 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the US spends more money on healthcare keeping it privatize yet is ranked lower in terms of quality than other countries that provide some form of universal healthcare. Besides you use “socialism” like it’s the boogeyman that we should all be afraid of when the capitalism that mccain preaches is doing wonders for our economy right now.
by ken on Nov 4, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you work for the government you can directly thank capitalism for your job, and if you do work for the government, you can thank capitalism for funding your job.
by noneed4name on Nov 4, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that capitalism is the reason America is the super power it is today. Competition forces people to excel. However, Barack is far from a socialist canidate. Since when is taking back the tax cuts of the wealthiest socialism? I guess the new definition of socialism is 4.6%. If your so worried about socialism, you should all focus your attention to the 700 billion bailout bill which has far more socialist ideas than obama’s policy.
by Blazing Arrow on Nov 5, 2008 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or does Mrs. Couture get more fucking annoying every time she opens her mouth?
I think I’ve found one more legit use for duct tape.
by introvert on Nov 4, 2008 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My bet = “I do not know / do not want to say who I am voting for” = McCain vote…
I need to find out who Lelie Sobieski, Tom Wopat, and the cast of the Hills are voting for….I do not make a move until I know where these elite stand
by CageFightingKip on Nov 4, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know Heidi from the Hills is voting republican, as for the rest, your guess is as good as any.
by James S on Nov 4, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to know when Sobieski is going to be topless in a movie. That is vital information!!
by PJJ on Nov 4, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes let me know when that happens those things are huge
by DBG on Nov 4, 2008 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The most hilarious part about “democracy in action” is this is supposed to be one of the biggest turn outs in voters in a long time and only 130 million people are voting.
That isn’t even half the American population.
Pretty sad.
Both candidates are bad choices, the entire system needs to evolve past democrats and republicans, Americans have evolved in the last one hundred years, their political system should to.
by DirtyML on Nov 4, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind, there are 10-20 millions illegal immigrants, felons, people 17 and under, none of which are allowed to vote.
by Mike Z. on Nov 4, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But some of the dead folks in Ohio that have voted are making up for the others.
by PJJ on Nov 4, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha. they’re registered but i doubt that they will vote.
by Blazing Arrow on Nov 5, 2008 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obama is a WHITE SOX fan , the Cubs thing wouldnt make sense.
by Beau on Nov 4, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Barack Obama can rot in hell, that socialist pig.
by xxBAxx816 on Nov 4, 2008 3:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Barack Obama is socialist?!? Obama is barely left of center, if he’s even left of center at all. Well, except in the good ole US of A where the politcal spectrum is skewed so far to the right that anyone who’s even remotely close to center is viewed as an extremist.
by Joe Smith on Nov 4, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How is it skewed to the right? We have had a progressive tax rate for years, welfare for years, Social Security for years…etc etc. Not everything is socialized, but it is hardly skewed to the right.
If the right had their way there would be a tiny single rate flat tax (or no tax at all) and nearly no Federal programs except for national defense.
I am not advocating either side here, but let’s get fact straight. If anything, both Obama and McCain had socialist leanings, just Obama is a little more to the left.
by noneed4name on Nov 4, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the most left wing senator, what rock have you been under?
by Rubberman on Nov 5, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MCcain will die and that dumb girl from alaska is gonna run this country!! No thanks ill take obama on this one.
by WENDELL on Nov 4, 2008 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep. She is retarded. If I were American I would have to vote for Obama. Not sure if he’s the real deal but fu*k can’t take the risk of Palin screwing the world up further than it already is. Anyways I’d still choose Obama over McCain even without that muppet Palin in the picture.
by RobH86 on Nov 4, 2008 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted the Ron Paul Revolution to win…too bad hes not running, only man whos views make sense for this country and no one listened to him…its a shame.
Anybody who doesnt know who he is or what he stands for look him up, his political views are exactly what we need to rebuild ths country and stop trying to police others.
by mikey on Nov 4, 2008 7:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
vote bob barr. His view are almost identical since both are libertarians.
by Blazing Arrow on Nov 5, 2008 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obama has been a senator for 16 MONTHS , and now he wants to be president????
That is too funny. Its like working for Microsoft for 16 months then wanting to be there president, but of course president of the USA is a much larger scale just using an exzample.
Also the name Obama is a little too close of a name to Osama they are probably cousins.
by MMAGURU08 on Nov 4, 2008 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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