Georges St. Pierre talks UFC 94 bout against BJ Penn (Video)
by Jesse Holland on Oct 30, 2008 12:49 AM EDT
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I like the way he says ‘performance’. However skilled GSP is BJ looks like he is unbeatable , right now. It might go for decision again .
by ZinaList on Oct 30, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions
I am a HUGE BJ nuthugger but after watching GSP handle Fitch I have to say that I don’t see it happening for BJ.
GSP has started to fuse an actual gameplan with his crazy athleticism.
He barely scraped by BJ the first time, yeah I know. BUT losing to Serra was the best thing that has happened to him. He looks stronger and smarter than ever. Very methodical.
On the other hand, BJ looked good against Sherk, but Sean is not known for having killer stand up.
I hope its a good one but I see GSP taking this by decision.
by OJR on Oct 30, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I am a HUGE BJ nuthugger but after watching GSP handle Fitch I have to say that I don’t see it happening for BJ.
GSP has started to fuse an actual gameplan with his crazy athleticism.
He barely scraped by BJ the first time, yeah I know. BUT losing to Serra was the best thing that has happened to him. He looks stronger and smarter than ever. Very methodical.
On the other hand, BJ looked good against Sherk, but Sean is not known for having killer stand up.
I hope its a good one but I see GSP taking this by decision.
by OJR on Oct 30, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I am a HUGE BJ nuthugger but after watching GSP handle Fitch I have to say that I don’t see it happening for BJ.
GSP has started to fuse an actual gameplan with his crazy athleticism.
He barely scraped by BJ the first time, yeah I know. BUT losing to Serra was the best thing that has happened to him. He looks stronger and smarter than ever. Very methodical.
On the other hand, BJ looked good against Sherk, but Sean is not known for having killer stand up.
I hope its a good one but I see GSP taking this by decision.
by OJR on Oct 30, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
WHA!?! . . . I guess someone else is gonna have to ride shotgun and navigate this wagon . . .
by AdamG on Oct 30, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Im always with you AdamG when it comes to BJ Penn! I am a big GSP fan also, but I honestly would NEVER pick against BJ Penn! THat guy is a bad ass with tons of skill!
by john on Oct 30, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ has never been knocked out and I don’t remember him ever being rocked on his feet. GSP has shown he can be KO’d. GSP should strike faster and more diversely than BJ and should be able to take BJ down slightly more effectively in the early rounds than he did last time but I don’t believe he’ll be able to work any GnP at all unless BJ gets tired in rounds 3-5. He will not submit BJ. With the fact that Matt Serra knocked GSP out, i see BJ only needing to land a few right hands. One is gonna connect flush in an exchange and GSP is going down.
by Crowls on Oct 30, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
guys, Ive been noticing people saying BJ is going to knockout GSP. BJ doesnt knock people out he submits them or tries to pound them out. When GSP lost to Serra it WASNT a chin shot, it was at the side of the head and set off his equilibrium how do people still think he has no chin. Fitch rocked him quite a few times and he was fine. GSP will handle Penn i know Penn is a great fighter but GSP is pound for pound the second best next to Fedor. this fight isnt going to a decision because Penn cant last that long not with a GSP pace. noone is getting submitted here, GSP will take this fight to the ground and wear out Penn until the 3 or 4th round where he will pound him out. How do people see Penn winning this fight really? knockout, he doesnt have knockout power, submission? good luck doing that against GSP, decision hahahahahah if it was a one rounder perhaps not 5 rounds.
GSP will win this fight decisively and then beat alves through ground and pount 2nd or 3rd round and then silve 3rd or 4th round
by jackel on Oct 30, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn’t say it was a chin shot. are u suggesting that there’s no possibility that BJ lands a right hand on GSP’s temple or behind his ear….and he does punch pretty hard. Sorry i said KO, what i mean is that he will hurt him with a punch and pound him out. There will not be a flash ko like rashad on chuck.
by Crowls on Oct 30, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just to be sure I read this right.
Rashad had a flash KO of Chuck?
No, my friend. Incorrect.
Rashad KO’ed Chuck violently and without any doubt.
Now, back to the BJ/GSP debate…
by OJR on Oct 30, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
by flash i meant one punch, clearly it was violent. chuck was out for like 6 weeks
by Crowls on Oct 30, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP needs to stop gaining muscle. The guy was noticeably more flat footed, and winded in his last 2 fights.That’s not to say he sucks, but He use to be so much lighter and quicker on his feet.
by rolando on Oct 30, 2008 1:11 AM EDT reply actions
GSP seems a lil bit hung over eh? I’m a big GSP fan, but, not when he’s fighting BJ Penn.
by TabascoSAUCE on Oct 30, 2008 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude he is so hung over. Imagine waking up the next morning after a big ass party and your talking to your buds and you are all hung over. That’s EXACTLY how I sound like (minus the french accent)
by Brandon on Oct 30, 2008 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
And he’s wearin’ AFFLICTION!! YEAH!
by Syd[a.k.a "The Negation"] on Oct 30, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
That is the most anti-heterosexual freeze frame I’ve ever seen in my life.
by RedDog on Oct 30, 2008 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with RedDog, I could use a different pic up there!
by chefdaddy on Oct 30, 2008 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s making me question things that I don’t want to question.
by PW on Oct 30, 2008 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
O my girl walked by the computer room and saw the pic and was like, what the hell are you looking at lol./
by belfort_fan on Oct 30, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess someone at mania has the hots for gsp. For gsp’s sake, hope it’s a girl!
by cbchwa on Oct 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of noticed that in the Fitch fight too, but he spent a lot of energy in the first few minutes trying to finish Fitch. Greg Jackson must have noticed it also, he was telling him to stay bouncy. Even if he is more flat footed now, he packs more heat in his punches. He never used to punch that hard and Fitch’s face is a testament to that.
by Gord on Oct 30, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i honestly think that penn is just smarter and a much more well rounded than pierre. then again, something tells me that this fight will not be finished in a dramatic fashion.
can anyone see a knockout in this fight?….no. can anyone see a submission in this fight?…both defend well. can anyone see this going to a decision?…95% sure.
by bradpittfightclub on Oct 30, 2008 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
I see BJ knocking out GSP!
by kevin (some guys hate me...and I don't care) on Oct 30, 2008 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i see gsp knocking~out bj penn. 4th round.
by ricky~dooby on Oct 30, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
BJs never been knocked out…GSPs been TKO’d…I think BJ is hungry to win this fight…remeber guys, Sherk was only his first fight where he seemed really revitalized and hungry. I think against GSP, somone who’s already beat him in a decision in which BJ thought he should have won, BJ will come out looking to really take it to GSP, not to mention the title is on the line, he would be the first to hold 2 titles simultaneously. I like GSP, but I have to go with BJ on this one.
by Chadx23 on Oct 30, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does everyone say that BJ’s never been knocked out? Matt Hughes TKO’d him.
by JB on Oct 30, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
cmon, he wasn’t even rocked, it was a ref stoppage. BJ hasn’t even been cut, let alone ko’d
by kevin (some guys hate me...and I don't care) on Oct 30, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely correct. BJ could have sat there taking those punches all night. at no point was he really hurt. A TKO sure, but not a the-ref-pulled-the-guy-off-of-him-cause-he-was-getting-his-head-smashed-in TKO.
by DDT on Oct 30, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I would argue that GSP is much more well rounded than B.J. GSP has better cardio, strength, striking, and wrestling. I really only give B.J an edge in BJJ, but I don’t see him subbing GSP.
That said, this could very well go to a decision, but B.J. will be fighting at 170, where he is fat and not usually very conditioned.
by naturalshadow on Oct 30, 2008 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions
striking? I’m sure GSP’s has improved, but do you remember what his face looked like after their last fight?
by chefdaddy on Oct 30, 2008 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Chefdaddy, get with the program that fight was 2 years ago, both fighters have evolved since that time. My call on this fight is that it doesnt go to decision. The reason for this call is if you pay attention to how GSP makes a game plan it always includes beatting his opponent at what they are good at so he can break them mentaly. Jon Fitch for example. No one had ever passed his guard. GSP did it in the first round nad mounted him. Sure part of his gameplan was to finish the fight but Fitch suprised him which is why he has so much respect for the guy. GSP will have in his game plan to submit BJ penn. He defenitely doesnt want a decision so he can show hes a defenite winner against BJ Penn. and BTW their first fight is clearly GSPs win. He clearly won with points. All BJ did was win the first round. Just because he bloodied up GSP doesnt meen he beat him. THe rest of the fight was all technical and GSP capitalized on that
by PRiME on Oct 30, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m quite with the ‘ol program my friend, and as both fighters have evolved I still give standup to BJ. But if GSP is planning on beating Penn at what he’s known for (and yes, I know GSP likes to do that to his opponents), that means BJJ. I don’t think he’s near BJ in that department. I see either Penn by submission or GSP by lay ‘n pray. Just a note, I’m not a nuthugger to either one. That said, while Rush won the fight, BJ was out at the bars the night of the fight while GSP was in the hospital. So GSP got a pyrrhic victory with that one. Should be good either way.
by chefdaddy on Oct 30, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d say that BJ’s striking is better than GSP’s however most of the damage to George’s face in the first fight was mainly due to the “happens-too-often-to-be-accidental” BJ eye poke. If George had asked for a time-out to recover, a lot of those later shots wouldn’t have landed, especially the one that broke his nose.
GSP will take it into the later rounds by being careful and not making any mistakes. When BJ gasses (and it will happen) George will finish him off.
by JRK on Oct 30, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely forgot about the eyepoke! with the frequency of those as of late (and not to mention the groin shots) these guys are gonna need some Kurt Rambis style Rec-Specs!
by chefdaddy on Oct 30, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you JRK, I still haven’t seen BJ’s cardio tested, he could have just gone from terrible to o.k. Becuase he’s better at it doesn’t mean it’s awesome. I don’t think it took a lot of energy to sit and counter Sherk for 3 rounds.
by Shadyone33 on Oct 30, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I like BJ in this fight. I can see the end being similar to the Sherk fight:
BJ catches him with his jab, cross, uppercut
GSP staggers back
BJ bumrushes
Gsp drops levels for a shot
Gsp eats knee,
gets rocked,
and then RNC’d. 4th round.
Im already so pumped for this fight. On my birfday! ha
by sinister on Oct 30, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got to disagree and give the overall striking edge to GSP. I think that BJ does have better hands, but GSP is better as a complete mma striker. That’s because he mixes in kicks really well and throws a variety of strikes. I can’t remember many of his fights that didn’t include at least one spinning back kick. Plus, no one in mma uses strikes more effectively to set up takedowns which I think he’ll use to try and wear down BJ. And even though BJ’s cardio does appear to have improved dramatically, I thought Sherk’s biggest mistake was not at least pressing for a takedown and making him use energy defending it.
by GregC on Oct 30, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m calling GSP again, and in more dominant fashion.
GSP is the favourite going into this fight.
Also, BJ nuthuggers you can’t explain away all BJ’s losses by saying ‘he would have won if he didn’t gas’.
That’s like saying ‘he would have won if he worked on hands’ or ‘he would have won if he learned to defend arm bars’.
by ShaiZ on Oct 30, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The one thing I CAN’T see the fight going is a decision. The pace GSP sets now will gas Penn by the 3rd for sure. If Penn makes it to the 4th, he will have nothing left to defend GSP’s GnP.
by Gord on Oct 30, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man,if he beats BJ penn, he cant rest well yet, coz Thiago Alves is coming after him, that guy is an animal!
by mad_drummer on Oct 30, 2008 1:20 AM EDT reply actions
lol alves has nothing on penn, or gsp for that matter!
by kevin (some guys hate me...and I don't care) on Oct 30, 2008 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
you’re right but give him 2 years and he might just be something for them, i personally hate thiago but he’s pretty damn good when he makes weight and keeps his mouth shut
by randy murders on Oct 30, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
bj won’t juice though!!
by kevin (some guys hate me...and I don't care) on Oct 30, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean when he beats bj penn. Penn is only a tougher version of matt serra.
by nathan on Oct 30, 2008 1:28 AM EDT reply actions
Ridiculous. Penn is better than Serra in all aspects of the game. Serra’s TD defense is weak, while BJ’s is legendary. Yeah, GSP took him down, but he made GSP work for it.
by Pat on Oct 30, 2008 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you referring to Georges taking down Serra or BJ. GSP took Serra down as effortlessly as I’ve ever seen. BJ was tough to take down, but I’m pretty sure it will happen after a couple of tries. This fight can’t come fast enough for me. A late xmas present for fight fans everywhere.
by DH on Oct 30, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, Serra STUFFED one of GSP’s takedowns and GSP’s wrestling is a lot better now than it was against BJ. GSP made it look fairly easy taking both of them down.
by Gord on Oct 30, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
.. pj penn is not a tougher version of matt serra. Bj has a better chance of beating gsp than matt serra ever will. All matt serra had on gsp was his lucky punch. Bj has a way better skill set.
by asfd on Oct 30, 2008 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Balderdash…Pls don’t compare BJ and Serra.
by Syd[a.k.a "The Negation"] on Oct 30, 2008 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Nathan… UR talking about imo arguably the best p4p fighter in the world. and ur trying to say that he is only a tougher version of matt serra… ur crazy my friend.
by belfort_fan on Oct 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
haha. key word here… “when?” you mean, NEVER! GSP will never beat PENN after the first encounter. PENN will adapt into GSP’s way of fighting and put him away then. still, i believe PENN will submit GSP via second rear naked choke. GSP should know better NOT go take BJ to the ground(if he can), because GSP should know by now that PENN’s legs are like another pair of arms, but WAY STRONGER! he’s like an octopus…
like what we bruddahs say here in hawaii… f*ckah, just crap’um!
by boardRIDER on Oct 30, 2008 1:40 AM EDT reply actions
You really say that in Hawaii? Strange. Either way, this should be a good fight. It goes back and forth but I currently just want the better man to win… whoever that is. haha
by RyanHobbs on Oct 30, 2008 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
of course. nothing wrong with it.
i must agree with you as well. let the BETTER man win, and it’s BJ PENN. haha.
by boardRIDER on Oct 30, 2008 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure that some canadians would disagree with you ;) I am just looking forward to a good fight.
by RyanHobbs on Oct 30, 2008 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Rear naked choke? Not happening my friend. GSP will NOT be submitted. IMO GSP is too strong for Penn and will either win by decision or TKO 4th round.
by Jake on Oct 30, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP has already been submitted. And although he’s improved since then, I wouldn’t say he’s un-submittable. I don’t think it would be RNC though. I just don’t see anybody getting back control on GSP, even BJ. Unless… BJ rocks GSP, and instead of finishing with strikes, decides to choke him out cold lol.
by Pat on Oct 30, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re not leaving BJ much to work with. If he can’t get a choke ,he can’t get a sub. His only sub is a choke.
by Gord on Oct 30, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP will beat BJ up for 5 rounds just like he did to Joh Fitch. No way Penn will get close enough to touch him this time around. I can’t wait until this fight is over so BJ will go back to his own weight class and quit screwing up the way championships are supposed to work.
by Gankaho on Oct 30, 2008 2:01 AM EDT reply actions
GSP looks READY! This fight is going to be unreal. I still think Penn has a TON of ways to win but damn does GSP looks prepared.
If Penn brings his cardio to the max then I feel like the line in vegas should almost be even.
by Warrior Training Center on Oct 30, 2008 2:26 AM EDT reply actions
That ab shot was like looking in the mirror! :-) BJ’s in for a rough night, stick to LW Baby Jay!
by mma_dad on Oct 30, 2008 2:29 AM EDT reply actions
gsp by ground and pound 3rd round mother fucker hahahahah fuck yea gsp will beat up bj penn haha bj stands for blow job hahahaha gsp gsp gsp
by fuck yea on Oct 30, 2008 2:32 AM EDT reply actions
I am guessing about 14 with the name and his command of the english vanacular.
by Psyqo78®™ on Oct 30, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
clicking this link made me feel like i was about to watch gay porn.
by Amos on Oct 30, 2008 2:44 AM EDT reply actions
I’m really looking forward to this fight. I don’t really care who wins, I like both fighters. A couple questions, though. If BJ wins, what’s next for the top of the welterweight division? Also, I’m sure GSP is correct in saying BJ’s game contains holes, I’m just not sure they’re big like GSP says. Am I missing something? A year or so ago I would have said cardio, but BJ’s since proven he’s capable of actually preparing for a fight and if he shows up in anything short of top physical shape, he probably deserves to lose. Other than that, he’s got solid stand up, great BJJ and decent take-down defense. And lastly, is BJ Penn one of the last fighters in the UFC that could shake up GSP’s head?
by clayton on Oct 30, 2008 2:55 AM EDT reply actions
BJ is not great at checking leg kicks. He uses his reflex to raise his leg sometimes, but he still doesn’t absorb the blow like you’re supposed to. I actually think BJ would have a harder time against Alves, than St. Pierre. Alves would leg kick the shit out of BJ. Hell, a miniature Keith Jardine or Forrest Griffin might be able to decision BJ lol.
by Pat on Oct 30, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
“decent tahe down defense” how about legendary!!!
by BOW on Oct 30, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
There seems to be a strong feeling that bj is gony win this one?! Im a little suprised considering gsp is a completely different fighter to the last time they fought, his wrestling is way better and infact some say the best in the ufc!! Also his bjj is way better as his strength and also experience, all the same bj is just naturally brilliant at all aspects and has an amazing chin!! Iv not decided who im going for, but i think im swaying towards gsp??
Someone said in a post that there is a rumour of a. silva v chuck liddell coming to britain?? Anyone got any news or gossip? Theres no better place than on here to find out!!
Also can any of you guys tell me where i could get a pair of iceman shorts as the only ones i can see are the signed version, im just looking for a pair for training and stuff!! Cheers guys, much appreciated!!
by mo on Oct 30, 2008 3:03 AM EDT reply actions
How does GSP have an amazing chin? It’s not bad. I mean, he took a lot of shots from Matt Serra, but I wouldn’t call it amazing.
by Pat on Oct 30, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
AFFLICTION WOOT WOOT!!!GSP gonna whoop BJ ASS BADLY finish him by 2nd round!
by Khaos_Warrior on Oct 30, 2008 3:39 AM EDT reply actions
Here we go again. Totally agree… BJ should have had at least one tune-up fight at 170 before going for gold. Less exciting yes, but better for him. GSP by 4th RD TKO or 5th RD UD.
by DJ on Oct 30, 2008 6:05 AM EDT reply actions
I really would nto have that much interest in seeing GSP versus Anderson Silva. Silva would destroy him. I think BJ is a little too small to fight Silva, but would make for an interesting fight which would Silva would win. I ahve said all along, I don’t hink anybody can beat Silva. If he is to be beaten it will be a boring fight in which the winner does what Dan Henderson did to him in their first round of their fight, but to do it it for 4 rounds to win by decision. This will not be easy to do. The reason whhy i bring this up is because the winner of the bj/gsp fight will most likely be considered the biggest threat to Silva. I think Dana said that he wouldnt allow BJ to fight Silva, but would allow GSP. Both would lose anyway.
by horny for mma on Oct 30, 2008 6:54 AM EDT reply actions
Totally agree. When BJ fights, he has fire in his eyes. When Silva fights, his mind and body are like water. Silva = new level of MMA. Silva’s timing and precision in combat(IMO)is a lifetime above his rivals. I dont see people that relaxed even in sparring. Its like he’s doing mental yoga or something. Sorry, but I’m just amazed. Between BJ and GSP. I think if they fought 20 times. They’d probably win 10 each. Neither stand a chance against THE Spida.
by WayofTheWarrior (hooked on mmamania) on Oct 30, 2008 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva walks around at up to 230 lbs. It is super far fetched to think that Georges will ever fight Silva, let alone the smaller BJ. This scenario ain’t happening unless Georges has a late growth spurt. 2-3 inches and 15 lbs.
by DH on Oct 30, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you even listening to what you are saying? You think GSP would get destroyed by Silva and you think BJ would make it an interesting fight. Then you go on to say the only way Silva loses, is by doing what Hendo did. What Hendo did is something that GSP COULD easily do and BJ wouldn’t have a hope in hell at out wrestling Silva. Dana knows GSP has something on Silva (great wrestling) and it could be an interesting match. He also knows BJ would get KILLED (he has nothing on Silva and he is TINY in comparision).
by Gord on Oct 30, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
@ red dog .. GSP beats Penn then Alves then Silva(spider) = GSP # 1 MMA of all time to this point !
by bDavid on Oct 30, 2008 7:43 AM EDT reply actions
Right now If I had to put money on a GSP/SILVA fight I would bet the house on Anderson. I love GSP he one of my favorites bt he has only been a couple of fights in which he actually took damage, he lost one of them. I know GSP has tons of skill and athletisizm, I just dont think he has the raw toughness to beat Anderson. Anderson has been fighting in the streets since he was 4, has no parents (uncle/aunt) and is just a straight up killer, there is noway GSP takes those shots that Cote took, theres noway. I think Silva would KO GSP in the 3rd minute of the first round.
by Spyder on Oct 30, 2008 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Anderson was the original Kimbo Slice! j/k
Umm, well, GSP used to get his ass kicked as a kid. Does that count? lol
by Pat on Oct 30, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, GSP doesn’t have the chin of Cote, but he would have gotten the take-downs that Cote missed. You thought Silva would have KOed Cote in the first couple minutes TOO and he was NOWHERE near KOed in the 3rd round (not to mention he was limping around on one good leg for half the fight).
by Gord on Oct 30, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This fight will go to decision in favor of GSP. Then GSP will go on to get destroyed by Silva
by rydinlow on Oct 30, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions
St. Pierre looks tired as hell. I bet he can’t wait until the reporter gets out of his room.
by yoububg on Oct 30, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions
GSP will dominate Penn. Even if Penn is Mr. Stretchy legs, GSP can hold him down. Ref stoppage. BTW, I’ve called every fight correctly since starting on this site five or so months ago. That’s not to say I’ve made a call on every fight, but I have made my opinion known on many. I don’t have a crystal ball, but there are some fights that are mismatches and somehow people are easily convinced that they aren’t. BJ beating Sherk does not equal being prepared for a modern GSP. I’m not insulting BJ Penn’s skill set, but if you look at this fight with no emotion, you will see that GSP is the victor barring anything strange happening.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 AM EDT reply actions
How many times are you all gonna debate this?
This fight is gonna be huge, any post that even mentions these two gets 17238463746 responses of who picks who and why.
by Jon on Oct 30, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
I was wondering why I keep getting calls for you.
by Psyqo78®™ on Oct 30, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I have big respect for both of these superstars, although I find BJ a little obnoxious at times. Regardless, mark my words, BJ will come in with great cardio and will be very strong for the first 2 rounds. Penn will then fade in the 3rd and be TKO’d in the 4th. Basically, I see Penn’s improvement directly tied to his better cardio and improved professionalism. However, GSP comes in with improved striking, greatly improved wrestling, improved BJJ and the knowledge that he can fight a 5 rd war against people that are suppose to be stronger then him. GSP wins, period!
by SilasM on Oct 30, 2008 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
i see gsp finishing this fight with sick standup, dont forget he’s got an extensive karate background and trains in mauy thai A LOT, who does bj train with that’s better than him at anything? joe lauzon NOT.. yeah he trains with faber every once in a while but urijah doesn’t have the standup background gsp does just fast hands..
gsp 3rd knockout, then he’ll go on and use his athleticism to beat the spider,and destroy alves
by randy murders on Oct 30, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
I can’t make a concise prediction for this fight. It is too close to call for me. I have much respect for both fighters. That being said I assume GSP will have a slight advantage in the odds based on BJ coming up a weight class and GSP already having a win over him. Other than that it will be pretty even as far as the odds are concerned.
by Psyqo78®™ on Oct 30, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
i think its gonna be a intresting match up but em bj cardios never really that good so ied have to say gsp 3rd round ground and pound i mean bj looked exausted in the sean sherk fight but will see i think gsp will take it dow hands down
by joaquin on Oct 30, 2008 12:28 PM EDT reply actions
Would you agree that GSP needs wins like this to build his legendary status. You need to beat legends to be one, so in my opinion, this is a great fight for Georges. He’s got legendary skill, but he needs to bag some big game. Fitch and Kos are good, young fighters but they don’t have a huge name yet, like Penn. Mark my words, GSP is a MMA legend. After this tough fought win in January, you better give up those props.
by DH on Oct 30, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
Give him props? Just about any decently educated mma fan has gsp in there top p4p list, as well as the overal best in mma. I think the guy deserves all the praise he has earned, but people have been giving him his props. I watched the first fight between Bj and GSP two min ago. I wont even get into my opinion of who won or lost that first matchup. However, anyone who watched that fight, and cant admit that BJ’s cradio was the only thing that kept him from completley destroying GSP is blind. Im not making excuses at all for BJ, cardio is a major part of the game, but he was destroying GSP until he got tired. In this second fight, we get to see two toltaly different fighters. GSP has been unstopable lately, and Penn may have finaly fixed his only weakness. ( cardio, traing harder ect ) IMO Bj’s cardio is the difference maker between these two. We saw GSP beat Matt Hughs who people have been calling one dimensional as a fighter for years, and Matt Serra who he should of destroyed in the first place. GSP dominating Fitch was really impressive though. I know BJ hasnt had much competition lately either, but I though he was the better fighter when they fought the first time, and now with his improved cardio, I really think he is a better fighter. Oh and for the record anyone who thinks GSP’s BJJ is at BJ’s Level is wrong IMO BJ is the man
by LOKIE on Oct 30, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like both fighters, but I think gsp is going to get frustrated with BJ’s striking. I just have the feeling that he’s going to try and take BJ down and get caught with a big knee.
by parks1 on Oct 30, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I like both fighters but I think Penn is the most talented of the two. I’ve also noticed that Rush tends to cut and swell rather easily and has shown that he can get rocked. I don’t think I’ve never seen Penn get rocked or damaged in any of his fights, even against Machida, a much bigger guy. I have no doubt that if Penn’s cardio is good, he will win.
by bert77023 on Oct 30, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
I wish this fight was in November and not so far away. I’m saying it now gsp by complete ownage all the penn fans will go home and cry, but I hope they take comfort in that time heals all wounds.
by nathan on Oct 30, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
And whats with this improved cardio shit, he has improved cardio at 155 not at a pudgy 170 he has to make weight. He always looked good for 2 or 3 rounds at 155, your nuts if you think he’ll outlast a fighter who is the far superior athlete and a cardio machine. Gsp will wear him down again it’s so obvious to me penn is too small for gsp period. Can anyone tell me when he looked good in the later rounds at 170? We haven’t seen it and we won’t see it. Penn’s frame is suited for 155, even if he packed on 15lbs of muscle he’s still be a small weighter weight. Fitch, koscheck, gsp, alves and hughes all walk around at 185-200lbs solid, penn is solid at 155. Mark my words if he keeps at 170 his loss’s will keep growing when he could rule the 155 division for a long time if he stayed there, penns an egomaniac who by the end of 2009 will have 2 or 3 more loses on his resume.
by nathan on Oct 30, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
you guys don’t get it, BJ is going to come into this fight at 160-163. WW is 156-170, no rule says he has to come in and cut down to 170. He won’t feel the affects of a cut and will be in 55 shape!
by kevin (some guys hate me...and I don't care) on Oct 30, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, its beyond funny that these guys think he’ll come in fat trying to make 170, he does have to fight Kenflo eventually so he needs to stay in that 55 range. Hes gonna be soooo quick it will be rediculous, a 164 lb Penn fighting a natural 185er that cuts all the way down from a “walking around every day” weight of about 190 lbs to 170 lbs. And George is getting bigger and getting slower and less flexible and has less stamina to carry around that new weight, and BJ will look like a fire cracker in there!!! And he IS adding on muscle as we type, thats for sure. Ah Kevin, did you create that screen name and whatever else to see his videos, i didnt get toi that other post we were in before?
by AdamG on Oct 30, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly BJ already said in an interview he would be comming in a little under weight to keep his cardio
by LOKIE on Oct 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he did, BJ is quoted at saying “probably come into the weighins at 165 or something….”
by The Anomaly on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn’t agree more Nathan. I also don’t understand why everyone things BJ’s standup is soooo great. Why? Is it because he beat up Sean Sherk? It is Sean Sherk people! Watch the GSP Sean Sherk fight and see how good GSP’s standup is. GSP will completely own BJ in this fight, mark my words.
by Jake on Oct 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I get it, you don’t it,PENN IS TOO SMALL FOR THE BIG BOYS, he’ll get worn out by a much more powerful and athletic fighter if it goes past one round. Hughes got him down at the beginning of the second round and koscheck,gsp and fitch are better wrestlers than hughes. Watch gsp will use the same game plan he had with serra, tiring him out them finishing him off in the later rounds.
by nathan on Oct 30, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
BJ BJ BJ!!! And OJR, its all good, you wont get far, BJ will re-win you over as a fan, you’ll see. George wont even have a chance. BJ BJ BJ!!! 4th Round Triangle, new welterweight champion.
by AdamG on Oct 30, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah right, BJ is going to get his FIRST (in MMA) triangle on a BJJ BB GSP. I hope BJ is already training, GSP is.
by Gord on Oct 31, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
yea, hes been training for several months, George says he is but as you can sdee the majority of us see a hung over George in this vid, BJ hasnt had a drink in nearly 3 years, George said in an interview just last week that he would start training for BJ about 8-10 weeks before the fight, he is not training yet, he is drinking on wednesday nights though = ) BJ BKJ BJ!!! And again, Trianle in the 4th, Georges bB is a joke, got his brown, purple, and Black belts all in the same year???? One Belt for Serra, one belt for John, and now a BB for BJ, dudes a tool. Go to BJPENN.COM for some real training vids and to see what a real champion is doing.
by AdamG on Oct 31, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Tickets to UFC 94, $700
Hotel for the night, $200
The look on AdamG’s face after GSP owns BJ, PRICELESS. LOL.
by Gord on Oct 31, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see his abs? And his arms? Oh my god, I think I just came.
by justagirl on Oct 30, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
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