UFC Quick Quote: Fabricio Werdum 'surprised' by knockout loss to Dos Santos at UFC 90

by MMAmania.com on Oct 27, 2008 2:35 PM EDT Comment 62 comments

"... I was ready and focused, but everything happened so fast, the punch came fast and strongly. I punched him and down my head and he punched me in the same time. I twisted my knee when I fell down and opened a cut in my nose, but everything is all right. I couldn’t even feel the fight, but it’s ok, in fighting you only have two options: win or lose. Now it’s time to think in my next fight.... I’ve never been knocked out or submitted in my whole life. We always have a first time, and it was my first KO. Cigano deserved that, I have to congratulate him, because he surprised me ... it wasn’t to0 much confidence. I was with a great Muay Thai, ground game, but it all happened so fast. He deserved that, he said he respected me before the fight and I respected him and still do, confidence is a normal thing."

-- Fabricio Werdum -- who was widely considered a top 10 heavyweight -- reflects on his 81-second knockout loss to Octagon newcomer Junior "Cigano" Dos Santos at UFC 90: "Silva vs. Cote" via Tatame.com. With a win Werdum would have likely bolstered his argument that he belongs in the four-man mini heavyweight tournament to declare an undisputed division champion. Now it's back to the drawing board for the Brazilian, who intends to temporarily move to the Untied States to train in the near future. As for "Cigano," he joins Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez among the short list of fresh division talent with huge upside.

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i wanna see werdum in better shape… maybe im wrong but he was a lil big you know? =S great ko by santos :D

by Ryosuke on Oct 27, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree, he looked like he took junior lightly.

by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course he took Junior lightly, he made the pillsbury dough boy look anerexic.

by c-war on Oct 27, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

heavyweight divison sucks, it’s boring and we do need a TUF of nothing but heavyweights.

by mikeybear on Oct 27, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe Werdum should have watched Dana White’s video blog to see how fast Dos Santos was punching those mits! He might not have been so surprised.

MIKEYBEAR: I completely agree, I’ve been thinking that for the last several seasons now.

by RedDog on Oct 27, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’m so glad he got knocked out!
- a loss against arlovski a guy who lost too silvia
- a win against an overated gonzaga
- and an un fair premature stoppage of the HW divisions smallest dude, vera

and all of a sudden he thinks he deserves to be in the top 4 contest…. no!

thank god dos santos put him in his place

i hate werdum stick to being cro cops jui jitsu coach you over weight, super dull fighter

by ufcaddict on Oct 28, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he knocked about 15 pounds of his head for sure that nite..crazy violent KO. werdum will be counting his teeth out of his stool. lol.

by santiago69us on Oct 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am really busy today at work so I cant post much. I will say I like Werdum’s attitude and he isnt making any excuses. He will be back strong.

Let me leave you guys with a lil something to ponder:

UFC 92 Anderson silva vs. Luis Cane???

by john on Oct 27, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

John, is that fight a rumor or are you just hoping? That would be a unbelieveable addition to probably the best card of the year already. Would that be Anderson’s toughest test to date?

by BNF on Oct 27, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its not an internet rumor, a friend from Vegas (who is usually right) text me about the possibility earlier this morning, but someone on another thread said that Banha and the spider are friends, so I dont really knoow what to think!

by john on Oct 27, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’ve been talkin bout wanting to see this fight since cane won his fight

i hope it happens

by ufcaddict on Oct 28, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Junior Dos Santos vs Shane Carwin???

by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Oct 27, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouludn’t complain!

This is how I would pair up the heavyweights:
1)winner of Lesnar/couture vs. Winner of Nog/mir which will be Nog so let Werdum fight Mir

Kongo vs. Dos Santos

Herring vs. Cain Vallasques

If Brock looses to Randy, have Brock vs. Carwin

by john on Oct 27, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is good HW bracket..right there.

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

john your spot on apart from valasques herring! herring cant fight good wrestlers his balance and base are rubbish. maybe have herring fight antoni hardonk and carwin fight valasques. and the winner fights the looser of brock randy! anyway its just speculation and talk

by the heat on Oct 27, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

any of those match ups work for me.

I forgot all about Gonzaga. We have to find him an opponent also

by john on Oct 27, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gonzaga vs. Mustafa Al-Turk

by john on Oct 27, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep spot on! are they tied down to oponents? i think they are!

by the heat on Oct 27, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

“surprised by knockout.” Really? Like he went in “expecting” to be KO’ed? I think everyone who’s ever been KO’ed is surprised by it.

by chefdaddy on Oct 28, 2008 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he should have been training instead of eating Krispy Kremes. I’m so glad that he got punked! He can quit whining about not being in the title picture now!

by LJ on Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hey… nothin wrong with krispy kremes..

by O damn he got caught on Oct 27, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its simple; JENNY CRAIG.

by theexmexican on Oct 27, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was watching the Roy Nelson “Big Country” work out DVD series, Krispy Kreme and KFC play a big role in preparing for fight night. Jenny Craig has no place here..

by O damn he got caught on Oct 27, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was never a big fan of werdum but it’s nice to see that he’s humble in defeat, i would like to see santos vs carwin sometime soon, they’re both fine after their last fighs so why not make it happen sometime soon

by hughes on Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea, gracious in a loss. Still top 10. I wouldn’t put carwin against santos. If you watch some of his vids on youtube, you can see that wrestling is not a strong point. I would put him up against a striker-kongo, hardonk, herring or gonzaga (simply because he folds under pressure).

by NameNotRequired on Oct 27, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to see Dos Santos fight Kongo and Carwin fight Gonzaga. Both would be exciting fights and there would be a big upside for the UFC no matter who won. If Dos Santos wins he’s beaten 2 top opponents, if Kongo wins he’s beaten a solid up-and-comer. In the other fight, if Carwin wins he beats a former number one contender and gains more notoriety and if Gonzaga wins he’s rebounded from adversity and on his way back up.

by GregC on Oct 27, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Santos may not do well against wrestlers, but he is working with Nog so you would think that preparation for submission offense would be no problem.

by RyanHobbs on Oct 27, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

very classy. On a not so classy note: Tough break fat boy!

by James S on Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m surprised he didn’t get that Memo on Cigano.. Some of us… Maniacs knew the deal.. and he found the hard upper cut way.

I hope he can come in better shape nex time around.. no more dunken donunts for that guy.

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No joke man! that was coming from a mile away. hey Phil…you psyched about UFC 93…i know you are.

by santiago69us on Oct 27, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m psyched up for UFC92/94!!! 93.. looks good.. but I’ll be drooling at the mouth the day Nog rips Mir’s leg/arm off his body.. and the day GSP vs the Prodigy..I can’t wait. Oh man.. and we have Wandy vs Rampage 3.. know how the firsttwo went down.. oh man.. I can’t wait.. I love this sport!!!!

On another note.. I was watching some of the World Series last night.. ( WAR PHILLIES ).. that’s for " John ".. they anounced the MLB NETWORK.. 24 hrs , 7 days week, rain, snow, and shine.. there will be a 24 hr baseball network??? IMO.. HOW F’ boring would that be.. OH my God.. 24 hrs.. of baseball stats.. etc..

Why not the UFC Network.. 24 hrs a day.. MMA!!!!! Now that is a newtork I would get behind.. I remember in ’04 when I was in Brazil.. on cable they had a channel called " Combate ".. it was a 24 hr a day.. fight channel.. with all types of old school fights.. tourneys.. behind the scenes stuff. interviews.. I saw some with Wandy, and shogun.. this channel had our name all over it..

but wht not.. can you guys imagine a 24 hr MMA Network.. with old/ new fights to watch all the the time.. ufc all access all the time.. interviews.. all the time.. weigh ins.. pre/ post fight coneference.. the works.. the UFC Newtork is sdomething I " PhilQNY ".. would endorse and get behind.. how about the rest of you maniacs?? What do you guys think??

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

id pay for that.

by b.w. on Oct 27, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

your damn right I would endjorse it!

by john on Oct 27, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d love a 24 hour mma network. Throwbacks to some of the great old fights would be amazing.

Some that would be nice to see for some of the newer fans

Lawler vs Riley
Goodridge vs Frye 1 and 2
Herring/Nog 1
Karo/Diaz
Newton/Sakuraba

I’d also like to see some specials dedicated to current stars, and how they came into prominence. Have a special on Sakuraba overthrowing the Gracies, then follow it up with a passing of the torch to Wanderlei. Show how Hughes became this seemingly invincible champion. Show Penn moving up from lightweight to defeat Hughes, and show the context for how insane that was at the time. Show Coleman winning 2 ufc tournaments, then having his way with Severn to win the championship. Show some of the early examples of well rounded fighters like Ruas, Frye, and Maurice Smith.

So many possibilities for specials like that. All you’d need is a narrator and some fighter commentary to fill the gaps along with fight footage. I’d watch that kind of stuff all day long

by yohnstoppable on Oct 27, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yo.. if the Network is not up.. by the time you make to the UFC.. get that into someone’s ear..

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they can have Logo, they sure as hell can give us this.

by BNF on Oct 27, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guys.. I saw this channel in Brazil?? All day and night.. re runs of old fights.. ex.. Oleg vs Renzo.. Royce vs Dan Severn.. they even show some sick ADCC shit.. to add to yohnstoppable.. have documentaries.. like " Choke ".. " The smashing machine "… on this channel.. it can be like a premier channel.. like a Showtime/HBO.. you would have to subcribe to it.. but one thing is for sure..100% of all maniacs that can afford this channel would have this channel.The possiblities are endless.. with the UFC/MMA Network.. the behind the scenes.. stuff.. you can order a PPV on this channel.. and get special things .. that the other ppv won’t have.. Oh my God.. Dana White.. let’s make this happen!! NFL has a Network channel.. now MLB.. it’s time for the UFC Newtork.. 24 hours a day 7 days a year.. all year round.. MMA!!!!!!

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We wish dudes, we wish…

by Syd[a.k.a "The Negation"] on Oct 27, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where do I sign up? If the UFC actually did this could you imagine being able to watch the ppv with all the prelims Live. Bad ass idea

by Psyqo78®™ on Oct 27, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was a vicious KO! Werdum/Herring to get back on track?

by JV on Oct 27, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Werdum and Herring would be a good match up.

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

loser would get a huge drop in the rankings. loser faces kimbo!!!

by theexmexican on Oct 27, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lets not go crazy now they wont fall that hard

by the heat on Oct 27, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That sounds like a good fight, what with Herring’s submission defense being tested by, arguably, the best BJJ HW in the UFC after Nogueira,

by Space on Oct 27, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking Cigana/Herring. They both prefer to stand and it could make for a great fight in my opinion. I say Werdum/Carwin.

by RyanHobbs on Oct 27, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Junior dos santos versus “cheech” Kongo next!!!

by horny for mma on Oct 27, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

god I could only hope junior would hurt kongo.
kongo is the most boring, over rated HW in my opinion. he’s terrible (in my best charles barkley voice)

by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

trrrble

by brendan on Oct 27, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, I’ve never seen a guy with that kind of explosiveness and athleticism never use it. I’m tired of watching Kongo try to wrestle opponents when he supposed to be a great striker.

by O damn he got caught on Oct 27, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

John had pointed out that match up for this weekend..

Ryan.. I would like to see Heath/ Werdum cuz their both coming off a loss. I wouldn’t mind seeing Carwin vs Cain V.

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The idea that they should match up because they are both coming off of a loss makes sense, however, they are both fighters that I would hate to see have back to back losses. Herring was dominated by Brock so facing a heavyweight at the caliber of Werdum might not be in his best interest right now. Herring and Cigano have been said to struggle with wrestlers and prefer to stand and trade.

This is why I think that it could make a great fight and win or lose, both fighters (assuming the fight was a good one) would get better recognition in the heavyweight division.

by RyanHobbs on Oct 27, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good point.

by PhilQNY on Oct 27, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

pretty good response from werdum. i do think that he took dos santos lightly though, and the weight(fat)gain didnt look good on him. his ego was getting to big and he was thinking too much about other fighters and fights. werdum can still come back, he just needs to take his training and diet more seriously, and him moving to the states is a good idea. JOHN posted that PHILNQY came up with the dos santos/kongo and werdum/herring match-ups right after the fight and i think that is spot on.

by b.w. on Oct 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Werdum’s speed was compromised ’coz of his fatness…Hence, the KO.

by Syd[a.k.a "The Negation"] on Oct 27, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually thought his extra weight might have been part of the reason too. You certainly can’t count out Ciganos hands though.

by RyanHobbs on Oct 28, 2008 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think it was Junior that KO’d Werdum..
I think LT from ‘Blitz 2 – Teh League’ jumped out from the stands, raped Werdum, and left before even the BA Zuffa HD cameras could pick him up.

Just look at his picture… scarey!

by Luppers on Oct 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Werdum vs Valasquez. I know I spelled Cains name wrong, but it’s hard to spell.

by DirtyML on Oct 27, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Did anyone see on Dana video blog, when he meets Fabrio and his coach. his coach is all being buddy buddy with Dana saying that Fabrio is “bigger and stronger”, I remember thinking to myself that he plan might have been to come in bigger to wear out Santos in the clinch or be really heavy on top. Now it seems like he was just trying to give the blubber a cover story

by riskreturngroup on Oct 27, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Werdum just needs to come out and take people down. He’ll never be a good standup fighter.

by sbud on Oct 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i sure as hell wasn’t “surprised”… i told my buddy while they were being announced…“werdum gets knocked out… 1st round”… and BAM! shoulda bet on that one!

by Andiesel on Oct 27, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i was as happy as a pig in shit to see werdum get ktfo.

by allamerican on Oct 27, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is unrealistic, but… with the HW division in limbo right now with the 4 man tourney; now would have been the perfect time to have a HW TUF comeback/arrive show. Have two brackets: strikers and grapplers. 8 strikers face off on one side: the likes of Dos Santos and Kongo. 8 grapplers on the other: the likes of Carwin and Velazquez. They not only have to train to beat each other, but each winner of each bracket needs to be working on being able to handle somebody from the other bracket in the finale.

by UFCAddict on Oct 28, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs