you beat me to it, MW division could use any kind of talent really.

I didn’t realize Lawler was so young. He’s been around the sport, it seems, for sucha long time. That would be awesome to see him fight in the UFC. Instant title shot against Silva, anyone?

absolutely not. that sounds like the dumbest waste of time idea i’ve heard in a long time. Dana will bring him in but just to show that his company is the best he’d have lawler fight a middle of the pack guy that will give him trouble. That way, if lawler loses, he can say “look at their company’s champ. he can’t even beat a top 5 guy over here” and if he wins, he can bulk up ppv’s with lawler by having him fight a few other 185 contenders.

No definatly not an instant title shot!!!

An instant title shot for Lawler? I don’t see it as smart in any way. Let him work his way up if he can.

Last I checked, Silva is clean out of 185ers to fight. Lawler v Silva could be billed as clash of champions or something. If Lawler starts midddle of the pack and gets beat, the fact that the UFC brought in a champ from another Org would be wasted. They did the same with Henderson for two different divisions. It’s for marketing purposes…more casual fans watched Elite XC events than UFC so his name would be fairly well known. Lastly, I’m not saying Silva wouldn’t win easily, but it can’t be worse than when Silva v. Cote was announced. What the hell had Cote done to deserve a shot? Exactly, they ran out of oppnents for Silva. Anyway, that’s my rebuttal.

And Crowls, you seem pretty much like you’re an @sshole

Come on RedDog, you aint gotta be like that. When you suggest a silly idea like immediate title shot for lawler, of course ppl are gonna jump on you. And the Hendo situation was way way way different. He was widely believed to be one of the top fighters in the world at both those weight classes coming from a respected organization like Pride where he fought good competition. Lawler has already fought for the UFC and is not thought by many to be real competition for Anderson Silva and he’s been fighting for a joke of a company against inferior competition. That’s why he needs to start out a few rungs down the ladder. If he makes it through a couple guys that’s great, i love watching him fight. The fight with lytle was awesome back in the day.

Crowly, 2 things for you:

1) Who do you propose would be a better fight for Silva at 185 that Silva has never fought before, would be a challenging opponent, and that the public would want to see? You think fighters for Silva are just going to magically appear?

2) I sure hope you weren’t one of those people that thought Hendo was one of the world’s best at those two weight classes because you’d be crazy. He was always overrated and until he finally beats someone halfway decent in the UFC, he’ll continue to be. Those fights were all about hype and belt unification.

3) Lawler is not the same fighter as when he was in the UFC I guarentee you. In fact, I’d wager money that he’d easily beat Cote.

4) Yeah, Elite XC was a joke of an organization but from a marketing prspective, it was also the most watched. Lawler might be fairly recognizeable to the lay man.

5) I was just throwing the idea out there, it doesn’t necessarily reflect that that’s what I want to see. I personally think Silva should go up to 205. I feel forced to lay out why the idea wasn’t THAT rediculous. Like I said before, I would have rather seen that fight 10x over the Cote matchup.

Hendo has beaten:
Carlos Newton
Babalu
Lil Nog
Renzo
Ninja
Bustamante
Kondo
Gono
Chonan
Vitor
Misaki
Wanderlei

Lawler has beaten:
Lytle
Villasenor
Trigg
Ninja
Scott Smith

Yup, you got me, Lawler is def for real. I mean, just look at his record, guy def deserves a shot at the spider.

Look I agree with you, Anderson should go to 205. There isn’t anyone i wanna see him fight at 185. Hendo for a second time would be good at some point but for right now, he needs to be at LHW. I’m just sayin, there is no reason for Lawler to get that shot. I don’t think it would equate into PPV buys like u seem to and it would be a waste of time for the real fans like us. The “casual fan” probably doesn’t give a sh*t about seeing the titles unified, particularly with a defunct org. We were the ones who wanted to see that happen with the Pride belts not casual fans. I for one have no interest in this fight right now. Give Lawler Marquardt right now if u want and that can be a contender eliminator. If he wins he gets the spider.

I never said Lawler was for real. I just think he’s better than Cote. BTW, You’re telling me Hendo was a superstar MMA fighter when he came back to the UFC? Most people had no clue who he was let alone what a Pride FC was…which you seem to have forgotten was also “defunct”. All this came from me just putting an idea out there to see what people would think, not to get ragged on. And by the way, who would have thought that a Kimbo Slice main event would be the most watched MMA event in the history of our planet? If something is marketed properly, you never know what it will bring. And now you’ve got me arguing a point I never even cared that much about to begin with. You know what, Crowls, this conversation is “defunct” and you’re just plain funked. I’ll catch you on another conversation.

PS, Ninja sucks.

My name is RedDog and I endorse the above message.

good jits match but i hate watching lister fight. that would be nearly unwatchable for me.

Speaking of Kampmann,apprently he’s moving down to 170.Him vs Paul Taylor would make for a great fight.They could put it on the Ireland card with them both being European.

yea, i just saw that on his site. that taylor fight would be a good matchup, but i think he’s a little higher up the food chain than that, even with a change in weight. maybe marcus davis would make sense but i’d like to see him fight diego. alves down the road could be unreal. Davis probably makes the most sense tho, well rounded guys, very good strikers, a quality opponent for his first fight at 170, but not too high up the chain. he’s gonna be big at that weight too, i can’t wait.

I don’t think Davis is ready for Sanchez. Davis would really move up the ladder if he were to beat Diego somehow, but I don’t see it happening.

Sorry PW, i meant Davis vs. Kampmann not diego.

I like:
Kampmann vs. Davis
Kampmann vs. Diego
Kampmann vs. Alvez

How about Kampmann vs. Swick, the battle of a couple guys who ran as soon as they got their first beating @ 185. This would make a determination of who ranks higher at their new home.

How ’bout..
Kampmann vs. Swick
Kos vs. Karo
Davis vs. Lytle
Alves vs. Sanchez

Would they set the last fight back up again or too unfair to Alves after he earned his No.1 contender spot? I know he said he would fight again rather than wait for a title shot, but that is more than a “keeping busy” fight.

i like that stuff except for kos vs. karo. that would be the “bored to tears” fight of the year

maybe so. I don’t particularly think so but even if he would, that’s about where i think he would have to come in at. He shouldn’t get a top ranked guy right away. Personally I think Kendall would fight tall and lawler would have trouble getting inside on him. If the got in close I could see lawler getting knocked out from a knee or cut badly from elbows. If he takes grove down I see him getting triangled. I’m not sold on Lawler. He’s been fighting inferior competition. I love watching him but he’s got some proving to do if he comes back.

good stuff man, yea he looked a lot better. on the grove thing… i just don’t see it. but hey like i said before, even if that is the case, i just think lawler should come in and have to work his way up. for one, i think he needs to show he belongs in the top of that division but also u can bulk up these ppv’s that ppl on here constantly complain about being weak. Give it a rest guys, u get like 15 cards a year or more out of the UFC and if any of them were for a diff org you would say they are good cards. Yea it’s easy to make a card look stacked when you’re gonna put on like 3 a year… cough(affliction). I hope that company does well, but everyone quit bitching and enjoy the fights.

the funniest thing is affliction could put on 2 cards a year and the only fight on both cards that would excite me is fedor

second that, i like babalu too but no one for him to fight

lol, my bad

lawler’s still only 26 yrs. old. he got ko’d by diaz when he was just a kid. robbie’s just now starting to reach his prime

Do you think he can go from getting KO’d by a guy that can fight at lightweight can stand and trade with a guy that has the most accurate striking in MMA? Some peoples chins can get better (I have heard of exercises and there is also of course the idea that if you have a good defense you can avoid it) but against Anderson Silva? Highly unlikely. Robbie needs to prove himself in the UFC. He wasn’t able to before. Returing to the octagon after a lacklust performance in the past should not bring you into immediate title contention.

Dang man.. thats a bit harsh if you ask me

No, Belfort fan, he has a good point. But Nick Diaz isn’t a striker. He’s a b_tch slapper.

And that fight was 4 years ago. I think hes improved since then.

You may be right. I think they would both be fun to watch.

RedDog, When i said that was harsh, I was refering to what he said about no one liking him. Not about what he said about Diaz.

i think henderson would take his lunch money

Hey mike….

You said “name a striker”, so I did. You can call any MMA fighter a “striker” or “grappler” all you want, but they are all strikers….especially when they knock guys the fuck out, like Diaz did to Lawler.

If i remember correctly, they fought at 170, so who’s to say Lawler would stay at 185 if he went to the UFC? He’s more of a WW than a MW anyway.

A striker that he could possibly be facing if he signed with the ufc, because thats what this post was about… And no hes not more of a WW anymore, i read an interview with him before his last fight with scott smith where he said he walks around close to 200….

wow, gonna lecture me and then diss leban like that..oh and I agree 100%