Patrick Cote knee injury surgery to result in lengthy recovery
by MMAmania.com on Oct 27, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
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Patrick Cote tore the meniscus in his right knee during the third round of his main event fight against middleweight champion Anderson Silva at UFC 90: "Silva vs. Cote" at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Ill., this past weekend, according to SportsNet.ca.
"The Predator" will undergo arthroscopic knee surgery to repair the damage next week and possibly be out of action for up to eight months.
The report indicates that the Canadian actually suffered the injury just four weeks out from the fight and decided to push through it and challenge "The Spider" rather than withdraw from the card, which had already been ravaged by injuries.
He took a cortisone shot to dull any discomfort prior to the showdown and all seemed to be good until Cote tweaked the knee in the second round. Cote then came out for the third round and lasted just 39 seconds -- he collapsed in a heap when the meniscus finally gave way.
Referee Herb Dean waived off the action, ending perhaps one of the most bizarre title fights in recent memory. In fact, the antics of Silva before the stoppage combined with the freak injury has numerous critics nationwide lambasting the pay-per-view (PPV) event despite solid action on the main card.
It also appears to have struck a nerve with Silva who typically shows up, takes care of business in less than 10 minutes and collects fat bonus checks for his destruction. Not on Saturday night, however.
The silver lining in all of this is that the champion will likely be eager to return to the Octagon sooner rather than later having suffered no damage and wanting to redeem himself fast. Of course, the Cote injury means that there will be no rematch anytime soon -- a prospect that likely would not agree with most fans at this time, anyway.
In the meantime, best wishes go out to Cote that he makes a fast and complete recovery.
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well I personally wish cote a speedy recovery, but hope to not have to see a rematch! here are my thought on the fight and your comments!:
I’m readin a lot of guys hopping off the anderson silva band wagon, and don’t get it. I’ll explain to you guys what he was doing, go back and rewatch the fight. He was unsuccessfully trying to get into cote’s head. He at one point did a double foot shuffle, cote followed it up with a quad foot shuffle. Then silva was moving his hand “bruce lee like” in front of cote. He was trying to get cote to press forward so that he could counter. Props to cote for not doing it.
As much as i didn’t like the fight, I give my respect to both fighters for sticking to their game plans. I personally am not interested in a rematch.
i want to see silva/liddell at 92, mw title defense at 95 or 96 and then challenge whoever hold the LHW balt at UFC 100
anyone else have any better ideas? please share!
I also read after every ppv guys that hate joe rogan and goldie. Rogan is by far the best commentator in the business, his knowledge and insight is uncanny. Goldie usually doesn’t bother me either, but this past weekend, I really got sick of him. He says some dumb shit, and is always looking for Joe’s approval.
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thank you mania!! I was waiting to get my thoughts across
side note, who you guys got tonight on MNF??
over/under?
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what the lines are, but probably the under on the MNF. Tenn. has a nasty defense, and Indy’s offense hasn’t been its usual explosive self, what with all the injuries to the OL. And Tenn loves to run the ball, especially against Indy’s depleted defense, which leads to lengthy, clock-chewing drives.
by PW on Oct 27, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was thinking over all night, but you brought up a valid point. every mon. game this year has been over, but I bet the under and tennesee 4/41
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that’s why I stopped betting on football.
by PW on Oct 28, 2008 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I was cursing you too! I bet the under just because you made to point that the titans run and the clock will be moving. no big deal, I asked for it!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 28, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see the event live, but did catch the main event on the net today. Glodberg actually noticed the knee problems early in the second round and mentioned it but Rogan ignored him. After the injury he says “Remember back in round two when I mentioned that he was shaking his leg out?” And Rogan ignored him again.
I just thought it was pretty funny. Golberg is getting pretty good at picking things out in fights sometimes but Joe gives him no love. Probably because he is so sick of him by the end of the broadcast that he wants to choke him the f out.
by DDT on Oct 27, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone watching saw him shake his leg out.
like I said, I usually have no problem and think you guys are crazy when bashing announcers, but I noticed it this time. Goldie just is a moron.
my wife and I were so impressed when joe said something like “he’s on the balls of his feet like he wants to throw a head kick” and within seconds, he threw a head kick.
my wife also gets a kick out of it when I say something and not 5 seconds later joe says the same thing almost word for word like he heard me. my wife laughs and says “did you write that for him?” it may be something off the wall and a joke, but it never fails!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin: Liddell vs. Silva wont happen anytime soon. Didnt chuck already say he wont fight again till spring?
No way Chuck will take a fight with the spider 2 months out.
Silva vs. Luis Cane UFC 92
by john on Oct 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what john, I think you may be right, but I don’t get it. what’s with these guys needing months to prepare for a fight. GSP,Matt Hughes, Kos and others have all taken fights on short notice. this is their job, they should be in fight shape at all times and able to train for a specific opponent on 2-3 weeks notice!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah john, i heard that too, what I don’t get is the 2-3 month training camp these guys need. A fighter should be in fighting shape all the time, so 2-3 week preparation for a specific opponent should be plenty!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Please get over your selves and seriously if you cant tell when a guy is setting up a kck by getting on the ball of there feet u are dumb . Do you and your wife sit around complementing each other on UFC knowledge Watch this hunny i think these two are going to fight i bet they will throw punches at eachother, (Wife)- O hunny look there fighting ur so smart i bet u told the ufc mma would get real popular ur so smart. lol
by DBG on Oct 27, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, you’re funny DBG. no, it’s the little things that I point out, happens during football games too. It’s not just the balls of feet comment, was an easy example to use. Was just saying Rogan is very knowledgeable, sorry for trying to use an example. next time I’ll try to keep it at 1 sentence so peanut brains like yourself will get it easier. Trying to use an example, no matter how simple it may be is just asinine! (sarcasm), it’s simple, educated people use examples, morons don’t. go to college and give the type answer or statement you want and you’ll get no where, which is probably where you are in life. Yeah, my wife and I watch the fights together, and fact is she could probably tap you 9 out of 10 attempts. Sorry you watch the fights with 5 drinking buddies with no knowledge, must be a sad life!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, I dont like it either, I just fear that those are the facts!
by john on Oct 27, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t disagreeing john, you’re right, fact is guys like to train for a specific guy for too long. I don’t get it!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, I’ve got to disagree on the fight prep time. For example, GSP is always in shape, but that doesn’t mean fight shape. I just saw an interview on this site where GSP says he does individual martial arts between fights and then brings them all together for an 8 week camp. Given that some boxers only fight every 6 months and only have one sport to master, I don’t think 8 or 12 week camps for someone trying to master and tie in 4 or 5 martial arts is a big deal. We still get about 3 fights a year out of most of these guys. Not bad considering their livelihood could end with one punch.
by SilasM on Oct 27, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey numbnut, I did go to college (mizzu) so u can kiss my ass, all im saying is you stink up most of these comments with your personal crap bout how ur job is going on strike,football,how your wife gives you head.Its a MMA Blog you kiss the web sites ass. You have talking point to your self ie- Monday morning conversation with Kevin. You act like you own the site or that we should all learn something from you.
by DBG on Oct 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not picking sides or trying to start a fight DBG, This is simply an honest question I’ve wondered about for a while. Why would an institution of higher learning (“mizzu”) purposefully misspell it’s name?
by chefdaddy on Oct 28, 2008 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have to agree Kevin is getting really old.. The guy thinks he knows a lot more about the sport than he does.. He gives his opinion like it is a fact and he is usually wrong.. I also agree who really cares about your “_ morning conversation”. I don’t care about you or your wife.. you arn’t good at picking MMA fights or a good MMA analyst so just stick to the topics and stop acting like a lot of people actually care what you think. This is Mania’s site not yours
by Kory on Oct 28, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suggestion for the umpteenth time: If you realize you consistently don’t like someone’s posts, SKIP OVER THEM. Your problem is solved so easily. This is a site to state opinions, if you disagree with someone’s, debate them on it. Kevin states his opinions/analysis simply to start debate, which makes for good reading and entertainment for most of us. The amount of insulting posts on here as of late is what’s really getting old.
by chefdaddy on Oct 28, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks chef, I find it amusing that I haven’t done a conversation in a long time, and the whole point of it was to be stupid and joke around. I pick fights bad, yet have picked some of the biggest upsets ever, and have not picked fights that were supposed to be locks. It’s so funny how one guy can get under someones skin so easily. Me kissing manias ass, thats funny, do you realize how many times I’ve emailed them pissed my comments (very relevant Ones) get omitted. If my wifes opinion is relevant at the time, I mention it was her, just like you guys say “my buddy watching the fight with me said:” sorry that my wifes mma insight intimidates you. these are all opinions for the most part, if you disagree, say so, most of the tim, I’m right on though!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 28, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt mis miss spell mizzu is short for Missouri or maybe you like Mo, Dosent matter look at Missouri’s next college football game you see what im talking bout
by DBG on Oct 28, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasnt trying to come off like a smart ass chef dont know why they spell it Mizzu but most do
by DBG on Oct 28, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Mizzou,if that is what u all were talking bout
by DBG on Oct 28, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the Horwich Miller fight and you will see what’s wrong with rogan. His blind nuthuggery of the rubber guard and blatant plugs for eddie bravo and 10th planet JJ was some of the most horrifying commenting i’ve had to endure. Thank god for mute. As far as Silva-he should face jardine at 91 since everyone else is busy.(He won’t fight Cane, they’re friends)
by NameNotRequired on Oct 27, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya I think at one point Rogan actually said the rubber guard is the most important aspect of BJJ. I got a chuckle out of that considering I’ve been taking BJJ for 2 years and never actually worked on the “rubber guard” in class. Overall I do think Rogan is a very good announcer though as he is very knowledgeable on the sport.
by GSP4Prez on Oct 27, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as the fight goes I agree with Kevin to an extent: I called a long time ago that Silva was likely looking past Cote. I think I was right and Silva was strugling to put it all together in the ring. That is why he was goofing around a little; he was trying to get Cote to make a mistake. Cote didn’t bite so Anderson was being all Machida and being very defensive.
by DDT on Oct 27, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Kevin, I actually agree with you! What is this world coming to? Haha, I too think Liddell is next for Anderson, but maybe on the January 17 card to suplement the Hendo Franklin fight, 92 is already so stacked its ridiculous. Either one is fine though. Other than that, I totally agree, back down to MW to cruch someone then up to LHW to win that belt too. Can’t wait to see how it all unfolds!
by 1-0 via Arm Triangle on Oct 27, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find silva a bit eccentric too. not a bad thing, just a little odd. maybe this plays a part in his “showmanship” being mistaken for show boating??
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, Anderson Silva doesn’t want to fight for the LHW title because he thinks Machida deserves it. Beyond that, it would be a bad move for the UFC to have him win that title along with the MW title because if he retires holding both it makes for a very difficult situation for the UFC. In fact, if he keeps the MW belt, I think they’ll wait and have GSP fight him in the last fight of his contract so he can either win and retire at the top of his game or lose and have GSP hold the MW title (which would also be good for the UFC).
by GregC on Oct 27, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if anything, it makes for 2 great tournament situations. you just made a great argument for him to hold both belts!!!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEah but lets say he gets both belts and does not retire as planned. Then we get 1 title shot a year,c2 if we are lucky, in one of the busiest divisions(LHW), because he will have to defend both belts at least once a year. That would kill me and I am sure many other UFC fans. I would much rather have him hold one or the other. On that note, when does WEC disband there two larger weight classes. Then Filho will be coming to the UFC and that will add to the 185 class. Not to many 205ers that are going to make waves.
Also when does the UFC sign Shields, ALvarez, and the other few recognizable names in MMA from elite xc? Wow the 170’s will be super thick after that…
by Da Monkey on Oct 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murilo Bustamante said that he is willing to bet ANYONE money that Anderson will not retire after his 6 fight contract
by john on Oct 27, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d hate to have Silva retire with one belt, certainly not two. It will weaken the champions that come in after him, because even if they win a tournament everyone will say, “yeah, but he never beat the real champ.”
by PW on Oct 27, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, I don’t think Silva will retire any time soon either. He’s to competitive. He could be just throwing it out there now, so when it’s time to renegotiate Dana will spice up the pot to keep him fighting. Even if he did retire, he would get that itch like Randy any many others did to get back in the mix.
by Gord on Oct 27, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Kevin I agree with everything except I do want to see Cote rematch Silva. Cote’s heart is as big as they come, and heart can always take you places that no one but yourself thought was possible. Just ask Forrest Griffin.
by c-war on Oct 27, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Goldie and Rogan. The only objection I have is there are not many major networks that will sign with a company who’s announcer describes a cut as a “Goat’s vagina” or a choke as a “rape Choke”. perfect descriptions as far as I’m concerned, but not good for network T.V. might even be one of the reason’s I don’t care if UFC makes it to any of the major networks. I like things the way they are, just want more of it.
by James S on Oct 27, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Dana can convince Rogan to keep his, um, colorful descriptions a little cleaner for networks. And I think UFC on NBC or Fox would be huge. UFC would probably make more money on advertising revenues than they do on PPV sales, so they could generate more money at no cost to the consumer (us). And with all the other promotions falling away, the UFC will be able to sign enough talent to put on shows much more frequently, maybe every other week. They could put on a 2-hour 4-fight card twice a month with recognizable fighters very easily. Maybe not Liddell-Silva-GSP-Rampage type fighters, but not completely obscure either.
by PW on Oct 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
James, you for got about when Joe said one of the fighters had “retard strength.”
by RedDog on Oct 27, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
COMPLETLY agree Kevin. It was all a ploy to get into his head. That was the WHOLE thing. Anderson thrives off his opponents frusteration it seems, which is why he is a counter puncher. Cote was awesome at not getting frusterated, he stayed cool, calm, and collected, and it payed off. And anderson, as good as he is as well, also did not be the first one to make a mistake.
by The Anomaly on Oct 27, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would’nt mind seeing Silva/Henderson 2 at 205. I think Silva would beat him again.
by Jrandolph on Oct 27, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats the point of seeing Silva/Liddell? So we can watch Liddell lose his 4th of 5 fights and three by brutal KO, thus pretty much ending his career, washing him up for good?
How about we give Silva a challenge for once?
I personally like the idea of him fighting a fellow brazilian in Luiz Cane. Someone that proved he can endure punishment and keep pressing forward after he beat Sokoudjou last week. That’s the fight that should be made for December!
by Anthony on Oct 27, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may very well be the kick that blew Cote’s knee, and Anderson Silva “checked it”:
http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&w=550&cs=1&s=38F67C10-1422-0E8C-9A3D18C2BD7AC2A1.jpg
Unless Cote’s knee always looks like that after he throws a kick!!
by TheProfessor on Oct 27, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent post. however i would love to see a rematch. cote deserves a second shot. the fight fan in me wants to see how much he can take and see if he can get that flash ko. after his surgery i’d like to see cote fight bisping or thales. a win over either would again give him number one contendership in my mind.
by christian on Oct 28, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to think that silva knew about the injury and that is why he didnt press the action. However I think he just doesnt give a shit anymore and is kind of just over the whole fight thing.
by kazanski on Oct 27, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how would he know about the injury? this is one of the most ignorant comments ever! He’s sick of fighting, thats his life, it’s what he loves to do. He is so upset over the fight, and douche bags like you having a negative opinion of him. While I was disappointed, and don’t like french fighters, he had to respect cote’s power!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cote is canadian not french. french people are from france and french-canadian people are from canada. they might speak the same language, but so do people from spain/mexico and the us/uk/austalia. just b/c they speak the same language doesnt mean they are all alike. there’s your geography lesson for today. :)
by b.w. on Oct 27, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the difference, thats my level of respect for the french and french speaking people of the world and on this site
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you BW. And also… to say you [Kevin] don’t like a particular type of fighter, because of a geographic or ethnic reason, is a really broad generalization and ignorant. But we’re all entitled to our own opinions. lol.
by JS on Oct 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Kevin. That’s the sort of the a Scotsman would say.
by PW on Oct 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate two things, the ignorant and the Dutch.
by medecine balls on Oct 27, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
medicine balls i like that comment.
its like this, im not racist i just hate minorities. lol no joking i dont.
by the heat on Oct 28, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For as serious as Silva is about fighting, I highly doubt that is the case.
by Gord on Oct 27, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Cote recovers. It takes real heart to fight the best MW in the world injured.
by Bill Maher on Oct 27, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it does? I’ll fight him tomorrow for 25k. thats not heart, it’s reality of getting your name out there. hell give me 15k I’ll fight him!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at your pic on your myspace page, I think you would be hard pressed to make 185 there Kevin.
by Jimmy on Oct 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I’m under 200 right now, and if I wanted could make 185 in less than a month! You’re right though, that pic is 5 months old (maybe 4) and I was hurt at the time. you’re funny though!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he recovers well. I also hope he keeps his mouth shut about the fight. He couldn’t finish it. That is the real story. If the fight would have ended with a decision or knock out we all would have been really happy. Instead we were faced with what was the only main event stoppage of the kind on this kind of stage. It kind of bothers me that Cote didn’t pull out so during training, went in trying to kick with the leg and then expected everything to be ok. Anyhow, recover but stop trying to tell us that you were in Silva’s head. He was beating you soundly in a fight that you selfishly wrecked, just convalesce and try not to mess anything like this up again.
by AA on Oct 27, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“He was beating you soundly in a fight that you selfishly wrecked”
ahhhh okay
by Mark on Oct 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anderson silva vs the winner of wandy/page wouldnt be a bad idea
by markg on Oct 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In what, April? Uhh by then he’s either got a matchup with GSP or perhaps a title defense against Thales Leites on his plate. Plus, the winner of Rampage/Wanderlei deserves a title shot in April, no buts about that.
by Anthony on Oct 27, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Cote got off easy he’ll only miss 8 months, a few more rounds with silva and could have been years.
by GSP SUCKA on Oct 27, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he didn’t kick a hole in cote’s forehead in round one, Mark? He didn’t nearly knee Cote’s stomach through his rib cage at the end of round two? Cote did absolutely nothing effective. He did take the fight, selfishly, with a very serious injury. It’s why we’re even having this discussion.
by AA on Oct 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“He did take the fight, selfishly, with a very serious injury.”
Can you honestly tell me that had he backed out of the fight, you wouldn’t be one of the first ones here to call him a pussy?
by Pat on Oct 27, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said he backed out of the fight. I said he should have backed out of the fight when he knew about his injury a full month before this event. Koscheck filled in with 2 weeks to go. I’m sure they could have managed to sign one of the top 185 contenders to a match against Silva with one month to go. Lots of them want a shot at him, or to avenge previous losses. Cote knew about his injury and wasted my time Saturday night by fighting injured. That was an embarrassment of a main event, and it was in no way the champion’s fault.
P.S. Trust me I feel bad for Cote. But him talking about how he had Silva intimidated was just over the top. He should just heal from his injury without commenting a fight that he was losing and shouldn’t have been part of in the first place (for multiple reasons).
by AA on Oct 27, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who said it was an old injury? He looked fine in the fight until he got injured in the 2nd round, I have seen nothing pointing to an injury during training, and if he was only 80%, he wouldn’t take the fight against the #1 fighter in the world!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I got a new fan guys. what was wrong with that comment DBg, you’re gonna use the “already had the injury” excuse?
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people do have injuries, and some do flare up again expecially knees.Also I’ve came to this site for a long time and i do agree with you some of the time but most of the time you make dumb remarks like these once you become a orthopedic surgen or a Dr. I may listen to what you have to say about having a blown out knee,till then ive had my acl and miniscus repaired and knees blown out and once the do there rarley the same ever and do blow out more often,and easier
by DBG on Oct 27, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read the above article:
“The report indicates that the Canadian actually suffered the injury just four weeks out from the fight and decided to push through it and challenge "The Spider" rather than withdraw from the card, which had already been ravaged by injuries.”
That means that he had the injury a month out. That’s a really serious injury to attempt to overcome. He’s to blame for the confusion of Saturday night. Trust me if Silva would have known that the fight would have lasted just over two rounds he would have fought differently. Instead Cote came into the fight unprepared (injured…he should have pulled out of the match)and, on top of it all, is now talking a smack about someone who was beating him pretty damn soundly. Have you seriously ever seen a main event end that way? The moral: don’t fight with extremely serious injuries, you will hurt your promotion. The other moral: don’t belittle your opponent when he is winning the fight and you’re the one who can’t continue due to injury.
by AA on Oct 27, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you never heard about all the injuries he was plauged with when he went on a 4 fight losing streak either, because he never mentioned them.
by Gord on Oct 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he mention how he was totally fucking those opponents up mentally, because he was definitely on his way to losing this fight by decision. you’re missing my point, though. I don’t completely object to him going down due to injury, because shit happens in fights. But I object to his comments, which were grounded in hubris more than in any objective analysis of how the fight went down. He shouldn’t be so je ne se quoi when he’s the one whose body couldn’t hold up for 5 rounds against an opponent who was beating him. The outcome already disappointed millions of fans (of both fighters), don’t make things worst with stupid post fight comments.
by AA on Oct 27, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of “stupid post fight comments”. None are stupider than responding to one that has no reference to your post. How can I be missing your point, when my post what in regard to Kevin’s post? Just because my post is right underneath yours, it doesn’t mean I am refering to you. See all those little BOXES around the posts, there’s a reason for them.
by Gord on Oct 29, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone recalls prior to UFC 83 Cote had slipped on ice and injured that knee. This is why he pulled out of 83.
by EMM on Oct 28, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kevin, it says in the article above that the injury originated 4 weeks prior to the fight, and the reason he looked fine before the 2nd round is because he had a cortizone shot prior to the fight, and probably in the weeks prior to the fight. I, unlike you, am training to be a physical therapist and am constantly working clinical hours. Athletes (especially fighters, i would know cuz i also train and fight amateur) compete injured ALL THE TIME. I’m not saying it’s smart, but i’ve done it and i’m not even a pro!
btw, i know this is an old post, but i had to reply to this message
by UGAmma411 on Jul 7, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appeared to me that Cote’s gameplan was to take Silva into the later rounds(where Silva never goes)and test him then. In some ways this isn’t entirely a bad outcome for Cote (at least with respect to Silva). He has the experience of actually being in the octagon with Silva which should pay dividends if they ever fight again. Furthermore, he has shown Silva that he is not the least bit intimidated. I am impressed by Cote. Lets hope that he has a strong recovery from his injury.
by Muscle Dolphin on Oct 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope him a speedy recovery…but now that king silva is reading all of these idiots sayin shit about him…if they were ti fight gain…i guarantee a first 3 minute ko///than itll b a lil longer than 8 months
by Xtremecouture15 on Oct 27, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what you GUARANTEED last time and it never happened.
by Gord on Oct 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cote will be gone longer than 8 months.
Silva will have had two fights done by the time Cote competes again.
by DirtyML on Oct 27, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats what I was thinking, 8 months is best case scenario having surgery today!
by kevin (most moderated guy on mmamania) on Oct 27, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No wonder Mark Delagroitte (spelling?) was telling him not to worry about his leg before they came out for the third round. Poor old Cote. I thought Anderson was fun to watch.
by RobH86 on Oct 27, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
silva vs jardine (only top lhw still not spoken for or friend)
cote vs another top 5 mw (bisping, hendo, marquart) in 8 months
by COR on Oct 27, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t even think cote will achieve number one contender status again within silva’s time left on his contract, cote’s leg gave out just trying to keep up with the spider, at times it looked like he was watching silva then trying to do what silva was doing, im not to impressed with him, he went into the third with the most pasive silva we have seen, but anderson still landed everything he threw at him. cotes leg kicks looked real weak and his fist only touched him once, and silva was not “rocked” like people are trying to claim.
by swizz on Oct 27, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and why exactly would he have to “achieve number 1 contender status again” ?? he didn’t lose by knockout or submission. he lost by freak accident. so i’m sure in the minds of lots of people, he is STILL the number 1 contender and deserves an immediate rematch when he’s healthy. I was enjoying the fight and i was pissed that it ended like that, so hell yeah i want to see it happen again.
by kitsunex on Oct 27, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing has changed since the fight. The Spider is still the best P4P in the world. Cote still has an iron jaw and little respect from casual fans. Silva will re-focus and destroy his next opponent. Cote will recover and look to prove that he deserved the shot he just had by KO’ing the next guy he fights.
by SilasM on Oct 27, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I feel sorry for Silva’s next opponent. After all the crap he’s had to listen to, he’ll make a point of finishing it fast.
by Gord on Oct 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, something has changed. i think a lot of people, including myself are looking forward to seeing cote fight again. im kind of curious to see if he can be knocked out. i dont think ive even ever seen him get knocked down or even seriously rocked either.
by COR on Oct 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True COR, he has never been knocked down. His losses came from submission and decisions. I think most of his wins came from KOs or TKOs.
by SilasM on Oct 27, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF anybody gets to raed this, off the topic: Nogueira lost the fight against RICO rodriguez back in the pride fc. They gave it to NOG, but that was straight arm robbery. I challenge any real mma fan to look at that fight_NOG vs RICO. the real NOG. RICO was robbed blatently of that fight. AND NOG IS SUPPOSE TO BE THE BEST? HA
by carnage on Oct 27, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How random. Get over it. I agree Ricco won that fight but if Ricco and Nog squared up today. Ricco would get his ass handed to him.
by Psyqo78®™ on Oct 27, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i think that cote deserves a rematch… maybe because silva fought the way that everybody wants, maybe because cote demostrate that he’s better than the other fighters that challenged silva… but the rematch must happen the next year…
by the way… silva wont retire jajaja read the words and believe me ;D
by Ryosuke on Oct 27, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cote definitely lasted longer than the other opponents Silva’s faced, but in terms of giving him a fight Silva vs. Franklin II, Silva vs. Lutter, and Silva vs. Henderson were all more physically punishing for the champion. I, for one, am not that interested in a re-match just because Cote looked small and out-gunned in the fight. I don’t want to see one sided affairs. IF Cote beats other contenders and solidifies his contender status, which I don’t think he really did last time around, then maybe he would deserve to have Silva spend another 3 months of his career preparing for him.
by AA on Oct 27, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say Cote was game, I want to see a rematch and you know Silva is going to want one because of his performance. But Silva isn’t god and he is a top fighter but I don’t think there is such thing as pound for pound best. That’s the only way I think Dana thinks he can market a 6’2 none English speaking Brazilian. No matter how good you are there is always someone better
by jsoph on Oct 27, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cote is a good standup fighter and that is why Silva couldn’t dominate him like he did with his other opponents in the standup, Cote’s movement and defense is too good for that.. however Cote is not even close to being as good as Anderson on the ground and that is where Silva should’ve taken the fight to and stayed there.
by RoB on Oct 27, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly cote should not have been in the title fight, but thats all over with… i personally don’t think cote would get past dan henderson, damian maia (yea i honestly think maia can beat him), nate marquardt, and what the heck bisping. just because he made it to the third round doesn’t make him the best opponent to face silva. if silva would have taken the same approach with henderson he would have probably lost the fight. heres to cote fighting some tough opponents before fighting for a title shot again.
by parisyan_sux on Oct 27, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree Hendersons stand up and foot work is sloppy so to say silva took that same approch dosnt make sense, Marquart should be at 205 but I think Cote would annihilate bisping possibly Mia and put on a great fight with Henderson. Maybe we will get to see these fights when Cote recovers
by jsoph on Oct 28, 2008 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to get off topic… Who wants to see Maynard vs Sherk>??
by belfort_fan on Oct 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not me and if i do i hope Sherk wins cause that guy Maynard should not ever again be on a ppv if he fights that way.. that fight should have stayed on the undercard cause it sucked!
by RoB on Oct 28, 2008 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How angry would you be if you were Cote’s friend??!! After he told all his pals to put cash on him, and he was injured lol!!!
I like the idea of liddell v silva, it gives silva a test in the fact he has never faced anyone with liddells power, or style. Too many people are writing my man liddell off too easily for this one, for sure anderson would be the favirout, but it sure as hell wouldnt be a suprise if he was lying looking at the lights aswell!!!
Off subject, I know you guys are the best to ask. Does anyone know where to get a pair of iceman shorts??
by mo on Oct 28, 2008 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guys, Cote will be able to fight in 8 months but he needs about 3 months to prepare for a fight, especially coming off such a long recovery. It’s going to be a year before you see Cote in the octagon again. Who knows what the MW landscape will look like at that time. Cote blew his chance at the title the moment he decided to go into this fight 100%. That is a short-sighted and risky decision. He rolled the dice and it came back snake-eyes. Nobody to blame but himself. On the other hand, I agree with those that say Cote didn’t have much of a chance in the 3 rounds he stayed in the fight.
by bostonmmajunkie on Oct 28, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lidell vs silva wouldn’t be much of a fight. i honestly think it would retire the ice man.
by christian on Oct 28, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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