The more I thing about this the more pissed I get. This is a cowards comments, why make comments like this about a guy who he is never going to fight. Its just stupid. I would have thought he’s have more respect for a fellow fighter.

I’ve read all the way down, and it amazes me. Do you guys realize that bisping fought to a decision against the guy who ko’d your god (chuck)? I got flamed the other day as a fairweather fan, and laughed. I’ve never been a fan of chuck, I think he’s got talent, but he’s not motivated and believes he’s a celeb. It’s the tito syndrome. Clay “king of fight night undercards” is a dip shit. I’ve never been a fan of his either! Because he has the stamina to repeatedly take a guy down and do nothing with it makes him good??? no, or he’d have fought for a title by now!

Well all I can say to that is that Bisping is certainly good enough to beat his Bro. Every year the standard of TUF goes down but his bro couldn’t even make it into the house.

Finally someone has the balls to say it, that Bisping is SO overrated. He is getting the Kimbo treatment. UFC just using him to break into UK. He has had 8 or 9 UFC fights…and STILL hasnt fought any real competition. MOST of his fights they fed him ONE DIMENSIONAL BJJ grapplers or wrestlers.

I will give Bisping this, he has decent takedown defense and decent striking. The UFC knows Leben is the FIRST striker Bisping has faced, but he is slower and after 8 or 9 fights they cant keep handing him Elvis Sinosecs or Charles McCarthy’s.

There are SO MANY fighters that would be a GREAT fight for Bisping, but would have a real good chance of spoiling the UFC’s plans…..How about Franklin, Hendo, Reljic, Grove, McFedries, Gouveia, and many more.

If Bisping got the likes of competition that Clay has faced or someone UNPROTECTED like Heath Herring……Bisping would lucky to be at .500

Bisping fought to a draw against Rashad, who is now fighting for the title…if he beats Leben is he still overrated? Good solid fight could go either way but here are my thoughts
A Bisping win means better fights at 185 for everybody, Bisping vs Anderson is better than Leben vs Anderson 2 right? Although Leben is always dangerous no matter who he fights he just has the perfect to ko’d again by Anderson
I want Jardine to win just so Wandy’s win over Jardine looks even more impressive…
no predictions here to hard to call

i like the way you think…

I disagree. Chris has a good submission game but at the same time, Bisping is much for quick on his feet. I truly think that Leben needs to bring this fight to the ground.

I know what you mean. I am not so sure that Bisping will get a TKO but I could certainly see him getting the decision. I could also see Leben submitting Bisping however. Leben has an underrated ground game. I could see Leben catching Bisping in a triangle if Bisping tries to work some GnP.

He is like Kimbo….Feed him guys that CAN NOT strike. Bisping will get beat and often when he finally faces b top b level, low A level fighters, that being WELL ROUNDED fighters.

Maybe after 14, or 15 UFC fights they will let him fight top MW. Until then we got to heat how bad ass he is cuz he BARELY beats Sinosec and wins over McCarthy and Pointon and Haynes.

yea screw the guy for supporting his bro!!! even if he sucks and doesnt have the work ethic clay does there still brothers so of course clay will support him …. and yes bisbing is overrated

Unfortunatly Bisping is a top draw for the UK market so the UFC is in a difficult position. They want to keep him in the win column but at the same time, they are trying to let him work his way up in competition. Rashad was a good step but he wasn’t able to overcome it. After letting him get used to fighting at middleweight he is stepping it up by fighting Leben. Leben is somewhat of a gate keeper for being a highly ranked middleweight. However, with a win over Bisping, he would be right back into the mix with the top middleweights IMO.

Who did Cote beat to get his title shot? Don’t be suprised if Bisping gets a title fight shortly after beating some other bum. Cote lost to the only 185 contender he fought in Travis Lutter. Other then that he raked out 4 glorious wins against Jason Day, Kendall Grove, Drew Mcfredies, and split decision over Ricardo Almeida(which I can’t recall if it was close or not at the moment), so how is that a title worthy career? I don’t understand sometimes, but I guess that is what happens, money complicates things. So don’t be suprised to see Bisping get a title shot with a win against Leben or 1 more win against a gatekeeper. WE may be seeing him fighting Anderson in 9 to 12 months.

The EliteXC uses Kimbo to carry their promotion and to essentially keep it alive whereas the UFC is using Bisping to expand their product in hopes of going global with the UFC. Not to mention, he DID win The Ultimate Fighter. They can’t let that show promote him so much and then have him fight in another organization. I doubt they would have ever done that with Kendall Grove.

I dont agree, Have you ever read an MMA board most people dont think he is a good fighter ie they dont rate him so how can he be overated, if you realy think he is that bad then why get so pi*ed off about it if your right then Leben will knock him out in the first round and all will be well with the world.

I dont think your opinion has anything to do with bispings fighting ability the fact that you mention Hamil shows that you haven’t moved on from the american judges decision that night……get over it its nearly 2009.

Bisping will win tonight by TKO or UD and then you can start posting about how Leben is a can and Hamil won his fight against bisping so bisping is the worst fighter in MMA.

As for Mike Bisping being a UK posterboy overhere MMA isn’t big atall, overhere bisping doesn’t get on chat shows or any TV appearances for that matter and he gets minimal press coverage when compared to the likes of Chuck or Silva so I wish americans would stop going on about him being the UFC’s only hope in the UK because it just isn’t true……rant over

Bisping is a virtual unknown in the UK, MMA as a whole is a minority sport with no mainstream coverage in the media. To watch UFC you have to have subscribe to Setanta for a monthly fee of approx $30 a month and no PPV fees. Bisping may bring MMA more to the forefront but with regards to ratings it is irrespective as the market share is so small.

Ironically the way Bisping is used by Dana is to wind people up who don’t like him as most people will read or watch something with Bisping in to bitch about it later. Like you.

Since Grove has lost 2 out of his last 3 (with 2 KO Losses), I wouldn’t exactly call him overrated.

Anyway, Grove and Bisping are both from TUF 3. It shows you how talentless that show really was.

That’s the thing, Rashad, with the record he has, hadn’t really gotten much respect or hype in regards to being a top contender in the LHW division until he knocked Chuck tha f out. I think it was pretty obvious that Dana had hoped he would pit Chuck vs. Rashad in an effort to set up a title shot vs. Forrest. Rashad just had different plans.

I agree with the last part of your post bisping is going to get a title shot sooner or later anyway win or lose so everyone should just chillout everything finds its balance in the end.

Dana White is interviewd in the UK media yesterday saying that a Bisping Vs Silva fight from the UK was a no brainer and would happen, so everyone should chillout those who love bisping should be happy he is getting a shot and those who hate him should be happy he’ll finally (probably) get KTFO

FACT!!!!

Clay will come to your house and chase you. then when you think you got away and are driving down the road you will see him chasing your car. then after you board the plane and are sure you got away, clay will be running on the ground or swimming the oceans staying hot on your tail. after landing and deciding the only way to get away is to climb Everest. you struggle to do it but you finally reach the summit. Well guess what? Clay is there waiting on you. he beats your a$$ and rolls you off of his mountain. War Clay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree, Maybe if Guida got a decent haircut and learned how to strike instead of holding his oponents against the cage for 15 mins he would get the attention he obviously wants.

Exactly, he lost that decision to Hammill. And that decision to Evans. Rashad is always hit or miss. He’s either going to win a boring decision, or win with a crazy KO.

Hammill just fought another “undersized” LHW in Franklin, and he got his ass whooped.

Bisping has lost to the best 2 fighters that he fought. Sure, he can beat on guys like Jason Day, Sinosic, and Charles McCarthy.. but until he BEATS a legitimate MW fighter, he will be considered overrated. That’s just the way it is. No one cares about his victories against lower-tiwer opponents.

Rashad is his only top tier fight he has. Though he KO’d Lidell in top fashion I still believe that Rashad is somewhat of an untested LHW. He lost a close won to Tito Ortiz and the rest of his wins all b and c level fighters. Do you truly believe that Rashad is one of the best 205’s out there even though he KO’d Liddell? I don’t personally.
Bisping has looked exceptionally accurate because he is fighting B LEvel fighters. He has not been tested at 185. Do you think his boxing would be that acurate against a Franklin or Marquardt? I understand that those are the top tier guys at 185 but remember skill is all relavant to who you are fighting. Sure Bisping looked like Mohamed Ali against McCarthy and Day, but lets see how he does when someone has a solid skill set. Leben is going to be a geeat test for him and his hands. If he goes out there and looks as crisp and sharp against Leben my hats off to Bisping, but for now Bisping is still pretty unproven, in my worthless opinion.

I have to agree with Din Thomas and Marvin Eastman.

How do you translate 61% of the pros polled picking Leben, as Leben winning 61% of the time?? I don’t get that…

And actually, if you look at his record.. Which would be much more logical for your argument, you’ll see that Leben has won 81% of his fights. That would be 4 out of every 5 fights. Which again, has nothing to do with this fight. So, overall, I’m confused with your point.

He fights in England because they’re guaranteed to sell out. It makes sense from a business perspective but he will start fighting better opponents now. It’s not his fault he’s been spoonfed easy opponents, it’s not like he picks his own fights.

I agree though I would like to see him fight a few guys in their backyards.

Guys only 3 of his 6 fights have been in the UK. Didn’t he fight Evans in his backyard?