KJ Noons thinks he's a free agent ... Elite XC doesn't
by James Iannotti on Oct 8, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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With a lightweight title fight between Nick Diaz and Eddie Alvarez confirmed for November 8, where does that leave recently stripped champion, KJ Noons?
According to a Sherdog.com interview with Noons it means he now has complete freedom:
"I'm a free agent. Since I’ve been stripped, I’m no longer the champion and I don’t owe them the fights. I owed them fights for being a champion."
Not so fast ... Elite XC officials disagree. Here are thoughts from the company's Head of Fight Operations, Jeremy Lappen:
"KJ still has two more fights on his contract. I’m hoping we’ll work something out, but there’s really not much to work out. He’s still under contract with us."
This is just more disagreeing to add to months of back and forth between the mixed martial arts promotion and its former champion. Everything stemmed from Noons not wanting to grant Nick Diaz a rematch and another shot at his belt because he didn't feel the Cesar Gracie black belt was the top contender.
Noons' opinion was that 2008 DREAM Lightweight Grand Prix stud Eddie Alvarez had earned the top spot with his impressive tournament run. Apparently Elite XC didn't fully disagree with that opinion either since Alvarez is now facing off against Diaz for the vacant strap.
It's obvious the company wanted to squeeze everything it could out of the Noons and Diaz feud, but they promotion also clearly didn't like the idea of of having its champion making the match making decisions so he was stripped of his 160-pound belt.
For now Noons is content on going back to boxing. In fact, he has a scheduled bout against Alejandro Bogarin (8-6-3) on November 13 in El Monte, California. Noons sports a solid professional boxing record (7-1 with 5 knockouts).
Regardless, that doesn't mean Noons' mixed martial arts career is over. Believe it or not he's still on semi-good terms with Elite XC, and he's even talked about facing the winner of Diaz and Alvarez sometime in the future.
Here's a snip:
"We’re still on good terms. We’re gonna see if we can work a deal out, but as of right now, we are on the same page as I’m going to go box right now. Hopefully they’ll want to bring me back in the future and they can have Eddie or Nick or whoever they have in the future fight the real champ."
This is just a weird situation that doesn't seem to have an end in sight. The saga continues.
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Go right ahead and try to fight somwhere else. and once u end up in court you will wish you haddent.
by belfort_fan on Oct 8, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy is a real piece of work. I knew, that while it was necessary, that move would taint the belt. Hopefully the winner of Diaz/Alvarez won’t accept the belt, but call KJ out to fight.
by chefdaddy on Oct 8, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this kid is just a chump. Flat out BITCH! who the hell does he think he is? EliteXZC has been more then generous to him and he acts like he is entitled to more. F off. U better honor your contract KJ because I do not see other mma organizations knocking at your door, especially since you are a bitch that refuses to fight.
Diaz vs. Alvarez will crown the REAL lightweight champ of eliteXC! Kj you will soon be completely FORGOTTEN!
by john on Oct 8, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the champ fights all comers. noons lost his champion statis when he denied diaz the oppurtunity to get busy
by rob on Oct 8, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
noons doesn’t wanna fight anybody!!! except for a just above .500 boxer. i think noons loves the idea of being a fighter and thinking of himself as a fighter, but as far as wanting to actually fight, his head is saying one thing and his heart is saying something else
by deuce 4 on Oct 8, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I think he is honestly afraid to fight.
I think Elite XC should make Noons rematch Krazy Horse, provided he can stay out of jail.
by naturalshadow on Oct 8, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KJ is a pussy!!! Diaz/alvarez is a match in which the winner is a true champion. Elite should be more worried about building their legitimate champions, especially with the demise of Kimbo. I can’t tell you how many guys (not mma fans) I run into this week saying Kimbo was an early stoppage and he’s the man. I asked all these people if he wasn’t out, why was he (unsuccessfully) trying to take the ref down, and his eyes were glossed over? They have no response! I read this morning that elite had to pay kimbo extra money to take the fight. I read a bunch of other interesting things, it was a good article on yahoo.
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 8, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i heard that for the first time today another site actually posted up saying they thought it was early?i was shocked that anyone let alone a mma site would even consider calling that early, that ref saved kimbo and your right he WAS OUT than came to and couldn’t even take down the ref who was not punching him like seth would have been.
by roy on Oct 8, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, we’re agreeing alot today roy, feels good huh?!!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 8, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, i will always agree with you when your right.
by roy on Oct 8, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People can say whatever they want. Videotape does not lie, and Kimbo got his ass kicked.
by naturalshadow on Oct 8, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hay, I actually agree with Kevin, and that doesn’t happen often either.
by iagoof22 on Oct 8, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KJ is a pussy. Nobody is going to want to sign a guy who dodges fights. Kimbo was definitely out, regardless of what all the ignorant fans think.
by LJ on Oct 8, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i read an interview with seth petruzelli, where he said that he and his wife were threatend by kimbo’s entourage and one of kimbo’s people was yelling at him “you cheated!” lol! what a circus act!
by b.w. on Oct 8, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the same pimp who kept trying to say sean gannon was cheating…they are a bunch of clowns.
by santiago69us on Oct 8, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he cheated? I guess Elite probably told him to stand there with his chin out, and him throwing punches at Kimbo could be considered cheating.
by LJ on Oct 8, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, well you can hear him after the fight asking for an escort out of there. Thats pretty sad that you beat someone and instead of being able to enjoy it, you have to be worried about their entourage. Kimbo seems like a stand up guy, but you need to distance yourself from your neighborhood “yes” men at some point.
Kevin predicts a Kimbo vs. Mike tyson match or Kimbo goes into the WWE by the end of the year. He’ll get KO’d by tyson and make millions in wwe!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 8, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
got 2 or 3 comments in limbo
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 8, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
b.w. in some of the first interviews with Seth, he says that right after the KO his manager was getting death threats. He said he told the commission that he didnt want to get shot leaving the arena. Did you see the pictures of Seth on cagepotato.com? The article said “theres a fine line between playing and living that lifestyle”
by JV on Oct 8, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes. i saw it. thats kinda scary to think about.
by b.w. on Oct 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye Bye Birdie!!! so long noons enjoy your short run at boxing as well…maybe your MMA exposure will carry you….to maybe the contenders show. we people like him involved in MMA. let the real fighter fight. i dont think anyone will care to put KJ on any descent card after blantanly violating his contract.and good luck coming back to elite XC in the “future”(when they are 60 mill in the whole and right next to Wachovia and WaMu on a chapter 13.
by santiago69us on Oct 8, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Without Elite XC, who would we laugh at?
by the_mexicutioner on Oct 8, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!! Probably just Tito and his MASSIVE HEAD!
by LJ on Oct 8, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito and Bigffot Silva should have some sort of huge head-off
by Harrison on Oct 8, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have some decent fighters, but their org as a whole is a joke. i dont know wether to laugh or cry.
by b.w. on Oct 8, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Queen Karl think he’s Randy Couture now, except withiut a title?
by the_mexicutioner on Oct 8, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think noons is hoping that elite folds soon. other than that he is an idiot. even if elite does fold by the end of the year, i cant imagine the ufc or affliction would want anything to do with him after the holding out fiasco.
by b.w. on Oct 8, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who’s gonna pick him up? I say feed him to BJ, just like I said feed kimbo to Lesner. I can think of a few others I’d like to see once elite folds!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 8, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO, Those could be on UFC Night of Comedies, 1.
by chefdaddy on Oct 8, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think the UFC wouldn’t scoop him up, your mistaken.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Oct 8, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know, maybee they would try and work the nate diaz/noons angle, but the ufc has had problems with noons’s manager mark dion, who was brandon vera’s manager. dana doesnt like to mess with those hard to deal with managers and fighters.
by b.w. on Oct 8, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, like Kimbo’s managers and Fedors. I see your point but still even though KJ is a fancy boy he still does have some very real skill. I would rather see him in the UFC anyway (so long as he fights who he’s told). Seeing him fight Diaz or Alveraz would be nice but IMO he should fight the loser of Diaz Alveraz and if he wins, he fights the champ. The reason I say this is because I’m pretty sure Alveraz will take this and the Diaz Noons fight would be an awesome build up to a Noons Alveraz match. EXC needs to start thinking about advertising their other fighters right instead of just Kimbo.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Oct 9, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Noons is a great fighter.
Too bad he’s a douchebag.
by Jon on Oct 8, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont get the hate for KJ? KJ goes in there, and beats the dog sh*t out of Diaz. Then Diaz fights two nobodys (one of which he didnt make weight for) and you guys wanted him to get a title shot? Then Diaz disrespects Noons every chance he had, and KJ was supposed to jump and give him a shot? Alot of you guys cried when Forrest got a title shot after beating Shogun (who at the time was considered the #1 LHW) You same guys were saying that Diaz should get a title shot for beating who? F*ck Diaz and his fried brain cells, I hope Alvarez pounds him out!
by JV on Oct 8, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i see your point jv and would not disagree with anyone who thinks diaz is a douche, but its not up to kj who he thinks deserves a title shot, most people and the company kj works for think diaz does.if they say this is who is next and your the champ you take it, especially in elite where there not that deep and that fight made the most sense(alveraz too)plus since he beat the dog sh*t out of diaz as you put it he should not have had a problem doing it again and collecting another win.
by roy on Oct 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can agree with that. A fighter should not say whos next. I just think KJ not wanting to fight Diaz was more to piss on Diaz for his antics? The more I saw that fight the more I see just how bad KJ whooped Diaz. And the one time Diaz got the takedown, he did nothing with it. Then he gets mad at KJ for the Doctor stopping the fight, WTF?
by JV on Oct 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off KJ didnt beat Nick he cut him, technically he won,but who has KJ beat. He got smoked by a ghetto fab crazyhorse then gets a title shot.So fuck KJ.KJ should have to fight the #1 contender,and in Elite it just happens to be Diaz. KJ is scared and won that belt with a lucky cut and he knows deep in the back of his mind he dodged a bullet.FUCK KJ!!! KJ stick with boxing faggot
by knee to the nads on Oct 8, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am not a kj fan and i agree with the F**k KJ, but he did beat diaz and a real good fighter eve edwards.
by roy on Oct 8, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“A lucky cut” Those cuts didnt get there by accident! Just watch the fight again and look at it closely. Diaz was getting battered, was going for sloppy takedowns and had weak boxing.
by JV on Oct 8, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad for KJ he signed the contract before he was a champion and I am sure there is no clause saying he had to be the champion to complete his contract.
He will lose hard in a court of law and should just STFU and fight and if he really wants to show EliteXC that he doesnt care for them, just fall from the first punch in both fights to end your contract.
by DirtyML on Oct 8, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If KJ does not want to fight he’ll probably be negotiated out of his contract. He has some leverage because according to KJ his contract included two boxing bouts promoted by Shaw that he didn’t get either, so we’ll see how it turns out.
In my opinion KJ got screwed big time in this deal, he was the champ and wanted to fight Alvarez, but EXC and their infinite promoting wisdom would rather sell Alvarez/Diaz. In an interview KJ mentions that the fight with Alvarez was not possible because he was taking time off and therefore had to fight Diaz, but now Alvarez is fighting in November. Most people jump to conclusions and question KJ but how about Kimbo not wanting to fight Rodgers and why didn’t EXC take measures against him for not wanting this fight. Boxing promoters have always been shady, MMA promoters like the Shaw’s will always be shady no matter how they want to sell this situation. Diaz is a bumb who hasn’t beaten anyone in a long time and lives from the fame of beating a Gomi who came to Vegas for the nightlife and not a fight, and a Robbie “can’t take leg kicks” lawler.
by Diablo on Oct 8, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He better be on good terms with Elite cause really who wants a problem child like him. The UFC has already been burned by Noons manager Mark Dion and I’m sure wants nothing to do with him now. Really besides the Nick Diaz win what really makes this guy think is in top of the heap. Does he think he is in line with guys like GSP or BJ Penn if he does then he is sadly mistaken.
by Tim on Oct 8, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Despite what everyone seems to think, Diaz’s fight against Gomi at Pride 33 was proof positive that Diaz is a warrior. Who truly cares about the personal side of Diaz – just think about the MMA aspect. The dude has some mad jiu jitsu skills, and he is never really in danger on the ground. A win by gogoplata…I consider that impressive. Yeah, he punches in a weak manner, but he is willing to take a few to give a few. So, maybe KJ really is trying to duck Diaz this time around, I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was purposely trying to avoid him.
by Carano4VicePresident on Oct 8, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cmon KJ! make it happen already! YOU are still the real champ! everybody thinks Diaz is going to choke you. What are you going to do about it?!
by coach ed papavitch fka kama kaze on Oct 8, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes going to bunch up his panties and make excuses
by brendan on Oct 9, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Diaz does not have a chance in the world to beat KJ Noons.. Period! he got dominated and is too stupid to beat KJ.. I’m happy he goes back to boxing it’s better for him!
by RoB on Oct 9, 2008 5:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Would be interesting to see noons at 155lb in the ufc
by braveheart on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All the hate on Noons is from Nick Diaz fans. They all just want to see their boy with the belt. If I was the champ with several successfull defenses (plus owning Diaz until he was cut) and they were paying Diaz 4-5 times as much as me trying to give him a rematch I wouldn’t take it either. Diaz doesnt deserve it. IMO Diaz is higly overrated and wouldnt hack it in the UFC. One big pride win (overturned) and he thinks hes king of the hill.
by RiverHorror on Oct 9, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, most people hate Noons because he’s not that good haha. And FYI, Diaz could hack it in the UFC, and that one big Pride win, overturned or not, was against the number 1 lightweight in the world at the time.
by rockwell on Oct 9, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serra has a win against Pierre, champ at the time. Doesnt make him elite.
by RiverHorror on Oct 9, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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