MMA Chernobyl: Petruzelli defeats Slice on CBS
by MMAmania.com on Oct 5, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
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There are no words to describe what the hell happened tonight at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla., for the Elite XC: "Heat" CBS special of "Saturday Night Fights."
No, seriously ... no words. But I alone (separate from the site) will vent nonetheless.
Scratch all the nice undercard bouts. Scratch a former UFC champion, Andrei Arlovski, rebounding from a scary first round against Roy Nelson to score a sweet second round knockout. Scratch Jake Shields defending his 170-pound title for the first time ever against a very game opponent in Paul Daley. And scratch Gina Carano toppling Kerry Kobald via unanimous decision in a much ballyhood featured bout.
But whatever you do, don't scratch Seth Petruzelli. The same Seth Petruzelli who could not emerge from exposure on the wldly successful The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) program to become a successful mixed martial artist.
Because who needs Spike TV and the UFC when there is CBS and Elite XC?
Excuse me, but what the fuck happened tonight? This is a blog, but rarely do we -- or me for that matter -- take the time to express unbridled opinion. Tonight is a little different.
Make no mistake, Petruzelli answered the call this evening, agreeing to fight promotional poster boy, Kimbo Slice, in the main event of the evening when Ken Shamrock bailed out literally hours from showtime. He should be commended for the decision and more than likely will reap the rewards for it at least until his next fight.
I hate words. And I hate rehashing the entire situation.
However, what Elite XC did tonight was essentially network suicide. "The Silverback" -- in replace of an aged and purposely overmatched Shamrock -- went out and stopped Slice ... the man that promotion had gone to great lengths to protect -- in less than 30 seconds.
What the fuck ... Petruzelli?
This is MMA where anything can and often does happen. However, it's beyond me how a dude like Petruzelli is somehow promoted to a national stage on literally hours notice and then defeats a guy like Slice who has been portrayed as a posterboy for the sport.
Hindsight is 20/20. And when Shamrock bailed because of an injury in the eleventh hour, there's no question the Pro Elite brass was stuck between a rock and a hard place. In fact, for those who call the organization "crooked" this is proof postive that there is no foul play involved.
If that was the case, Petruzelli would have taken a dive. Arlovski would have been brought in to build a star and murder Slice within the cage. Or the fight would have been scrapped altogether.
But no ... Petruzelli comes in and -- in the eyes of the millions of viewers nationwide -- smashes Kimbo.
Listen, Elite XC has some great fighters and is a solid promotion that attempts to put on good fights -- look no further than the welterweight championship fight tonight.
But when the company hitches its wagon to an aging Shamrock -- with the hopes of building its most bankable star -- and gets burned so hard like it did tonight heads need to roll.
Tonight was an absolute joke because of the main event and nothing else.
Keep in mind part of me realizes that Slice wins this fight nine times out of 10. But tonight he lost and so did Elite XC and the fans watching nationwide. This loss, quite honestly, should not count against Slice (as did Seth) because he was man enough to take on an opponent on literally minutes notice.
No one does that. Not when it comes to a professional MMA organization, anyway.
And that's the major problem here ... not Kimbo or his loss. Tonight was a massive blunder that this writer feels borders on retarded (you heard that Jared Shaw) ... something with which UFC President Dana White would more than likely agree.
You get the feeling that, when piss comes to squat, Elite XC, including Kimbo, just can't win no matter who or what is in front of them. And maybe in the grand scheme of things that's not such a bad thing after all.
Unless your Seth Petruzelli.
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Idiots. If that was Arlovski knocking out Kimbo, no big deal. A TUF reject fighting at 205? That’s embarrassing.
by FilmDrunk on Oct 5, 2008 1:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop calling Seth a TUF “reject”. He lost in the Semis to Brad Imes and was signed by the UFC. Unfortunately for him he faced Hamill and Gouveia in his first 2 UFC bouts.
by Flyingknees on Oct 5, 2008 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doupt, and he’s a game fighter who obviously wont take a dive. it seemed like he felt guilty about hi victory in the post fight inerview.
by Ro-J on Oct 5, 2008 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo got knocked out by a Jab like punch. It was great!
by Ro-J on Oct 5, 2008 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jeez mania why dont u tell us how u really feel? lol
by brendan on Oct 5, 2008 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo got hit in a killspot. He got hit right behind the ear with a jab, and with a strong fighter like Seth that will drop a lot of people. Kimbo got hit in the back of the head at least 3 times during the wild display of punches.
But I am sorry, Kimbo Slice used to fight anybody, anywhere. Seth is not a ground guy, Kimbo should not have did the James Thompson Gong and Dash. Kimbo blew that fight. He choked. He got EXTREMELY sloppy with his standup. I don’t see how you cna do that. His gameplan could not of been different from Shamrock to Seth. The only thing different was that you had to worry about takedowns, that’s it. Everybody knows that Shamrock was going to take you down, so you sprawl and you keep the fight standing.
Kimbo literally blew it.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Oct 5, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BEHIND THE EAR??? No way! He was looking straight ahead, face to face with Seth. He got punched in the face, not the back of the head. With two people looking face to face, it is impossible to throw a jab that would land on the back of a head. I simply can’t believe that a jab by a scrubby 205er with one foot on the ground, backing up in retreat mode, against the fence would KO Kimbo. For sure he has been hit harder than that.
I really wish that I would have known that Shamrock was a fool and needed stitches and that Seth Petruzzelli stepped up to take his place. Does anyone know if there were odds for Kimbo/Seth on BetUs??? I would have bet on Seth for sure. Of course that is easy to say in hindsight, but I would have bet small on him if he was like a +350.
I have never heard of someone getting scratched from a card just hours before hand due to a cut. That is ridiculous. But if anyone can do it, you can count on ol’ Shammy.
Shamrock’s F up ended up leading to VERY costly errors on the parts of both EliteXC and Kimbo. No other organization would have made a move like this, and not many other fighters than Kimbo would have accepted it. But, if he turned the fight down, he would have lost a lot of respect from “the streets” because he is the person know for fighting anyone, anywhere.
by ViolentMike on Oct 5, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really Mania? Fergie wins that fight 9 out of 10 times? We just saw him for exactly what he is, which is a sub-par brawler who has no business fighting actual mixed martial artists. Petruzelli, while he wasn’t able to survive in the competitive LHW division of the UFC, is young and experienced and trains in all aspects of MMA, exactly the kind of fighter that Scumbag Shaw and Scumbag Jr. have been keeping away from Fergie. With any luck the Kornheisers, Wilbons and Romes of the world were taking note of this and now have some idea of the difference between a real MMA star and a champion of the parking lots, back yards and alleys.
by PW on Oct 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got punched in the chin the third replay they showed was clear. and Seth was standing on one leg and moving backwards not a power shot but a shot on the button.
by Ro-J on Oct 5, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo loses this fight 9 out of 10 times more like it. How could this not count as a loss on Kimbo’s record? If he won, he woulda counted it as a win. Fact is: Kimbo is not that great. Not sure why Mania is hurting over this.
by c-war on Oct 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah man, I totally agree. This is not really a shocker.. at all. Seth is a veteran, and Kimbo is a rook brawler who fought noone until now. Seth came in much lighter, and buckled Kimbo with ease.. Seth is still a B or C level fighter, he just exposed someone who has no business in professional mma.
by Caper on Oct 6, 2008 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, but you know what I meant.
by FilmDrunk on Oct 5, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent blog MANIA’ I feel the exact same way,, with the exception that this is MMA not Boxing and there’s always fights to build, especially if they get togther with Affliction…
Shamrock VS Kimbo, Carano VS Cyborg, Arlovski VS Fedor, Tito VS Frank Shamrock, Shields VS Robbie Lawler.
Put this on the next card
I don’t think it’s suicide, it’s just MMA… casual fans will be back after having a taste of this crazy sport… if nothing else to see what Kimbo does next!
by THORAZINE on Oct 5, 2008 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Keep in mind part of me realizes that Slice wins this fight nine times out of 10.”
9 out of 10 times I agree with you mania, but this time i have to disagree!! Why does Kimbo win this fight 9 out of 10 times? because he beat tank? ray mercer? I assumed petrucelli was going in to take a dive, but what he did was prove what I’ve been saying all along. The WORST UFC fighter (HW) would beat Kimbo! I put 500 on shamrock, why, because I expected him to get exposed at some point! It was a short right, and look what happened! Instead of putting seth down, we should be thanking him! I believe Kimbo is a smart, well spoken humble man, but he deserves to be the first fight of a telivision broadcast, not the main event. This proves it…thank you seth petrucelli! Al the people who think Kimbo is the best HW in the world or even top 50…thank you seth petrucelli!!!
cmon mania, I’m disappointed that you rained, no, pissed on this guys parade. I realize you (as an unbiased journalist) don’t normally give opinion, but I’m quite disappointed that you would start now!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 5, 2008 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“kimbo deserves a muligan”???
isn’t that what his carreer thus far has been?
anyways, Shields is one of my favorite fighters, he really needs to work on his GNP power. My wife was literally yelling when he rolled into the cage for the arm bar. He needs stand up training, it’s average at best. ON the ground, he’s unstoppable, but a good defensive wrestler that can strike (small chuck) would give him trouble.
Gina is in big trouble with cyborg…I predict a KO.
Man, arlovski is still fighting tentative…he’s still an animal, but let loose a bit!
Rua…what can I say??? I’ll quote my wife: “junk”
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 5, 2008 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, even though i knew better i was hoping for that KO which never came from paul. Shields very much underwhelmed me tonight. His gnp wasn’t there, his cardio wasn’t there, his stand up was shitty enough that gus commented on it. Gina is finally admitting that she can’t make the weight for the weightclass made for her. Cyborg from pbps was putting up some serious offensive volume and yoko didn’t give up so props to her.
by NameNotRequired on Oct 5, 2008 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve read all the way down, looks like mania is the only person surprised at this outcome. Which is funnies, someone actually thinking kimbo is legit or watching Kimbo try to (unsuccessfully) get the double on the referee. that was priceless!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 5, 2008 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know – that and $kala freaking out in the background made my night.
by NameNotRequired on Oct 5, 2008 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m too tired to continue reading but i want to give you props for talking about the 9 times out of ten… i’d say its seth that wins that 9 times out of ten, kimbo had to use james “the colossusly brittle jaw” thompson’s ear to win that fight and gets knocked by a 205er falling back into the cage on one foot…. way to rep the mean streets of miami
ps yeah he tried to take the ref down for a good minute after that fight… hilarity
by san shouer on Oct 5, 2008 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As soon as i heard he was fighting Seth I made a bet with my brother that kimbo was gonna get knocked out…. Seth was the favorite in that fight in my mind, Kimbo is not a mma fighter he is a street brawler who beat up older street brawlers and a terrible JT. It took guts for Kimbo to step up and take that fight ill give him that but WTF was shaw thinking by letting him??? Good bye elite xc Jared just killed the whole org. in one night… Hey jared you should of just fed him the The Pitbull atleast people would of understood the 14 sec knock out…
I can picture Dana laughing his ass off saying I love my F@@king life..
by BigDaddyDahl on Oct 5, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I interpreted that Mania was saying Kimbo would beat Shamrock 9 out of 10 times, NOT that Kimbo would beat Petruzelli 9 out of 10 times… right?
Because I’m with Kevin on this one 100%, and would be surpised that Mania thinks Kimbo would beat Petruzelli 9 out of 10 times.
by THORAZINE on Oct 5, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was watching the DREAM GRANDPRIX when Bas was commentating about Alvarez having to step aside because of his eye and Hansen stepped in to win the whole tourney. I remember Bas saying that more than 75% of the time the fighter who gets the “lucky break” wins!!!
Looks like he knew what he was talking about.
by anthony cazares on Oct 5, 2008 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seth is no reject. He’s a true Mixed Martial Artist. Kimbo got knocked out by a JAB.
Technique over strength. Nuff said.
by damaja on Oct 5, 2008 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully for MMA Elite XC sells it’s company for $1 to the UFC because that’s how much they’re acting like it’s worth!!!!! I have to say i find it funny how everyone is taking it upon themselves to IGNORE the fact that Kimbo was hit with 2 “HAMMER FIST” to the back of his head. Grant it Seth caught Kimbo with a nice punch but that’s not what hurt him it was the 2 Hammer fist to the back of the head that really put him out! I can’t believe that the announcers talked over and ignored those obvious shots to the back of Kimbo’s head. Even the fan in the front row pointed to the back of his head & screamed that Kimbo got hit with the illegal shots when they replayed the stoppage he was seen in the audience motioning to the back of his head. You can also notice that the referee started to stop the fight due to the blows to the back of the head & before his interview Kimbo told the Doctor he was hit in the back of the head. Brock Lesnar sure was deducted those points from the score card when he hit Mir with the Hammer fists to the back of the head,,, Why wasn’t Seth treated the same? Why would Elite XC go to great lengths to promote Kimbo & then dog him by ignoring the obvious illegal blows to the back of his head?
I know that Dana White is laughing at these idiots because they are just proving why The UFC is going to remain on top of the MMA world!!!
by Pierre on Oct 5, 2008 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, that fan was jared shaw, and that punch put kimbo down. con pierre, I’ve never seen you in these parts before, so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but your synopsis of the fight is terrible…I even watched it 4 times (didn’t even take a minute), he was hitting him legally, and Kimbo was out. He tried (and couldn’t do it) to take the ref down. When he got up, he was still groggy and his eyes were glossed over. Frank mir got hit repeatedly in the back of the head, and Brock was warned. go rewatch this fight, it won’t take you long. by the way, jared shaw’s meals and clothes and bills are paid for if Kimbo succeeds (just in case you were wondering)
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 5, 2008 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s not forget to mention the strait rights Kimbo took aim to the rear of Tank Abbott’s head.
While holding his head down to his leg.
And only got a warning.
Kimbo was rocked but wasn’t screwed up until the looping rights to his jaw.
by Jas on Oct 5, 2008 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw one forearm to the back of the head but it was after Kimbo dropped. That pink haired puss was running backwards and landed a cross not a jab. Kimbo’s hands were down trying to grab the leg of a girly front kick and wam he got a cross on the chin and fell. Then pinky as shocked as all of us spasticly threw about six blows and misses or glanced kimbo with all of them aside from one side of the wrist shot to kimbos ear. That cross dropped him. Thank god the hype is over. Beating guys on youtube a filming it should not be rewarded
by scott on Oct 5, 2008 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point. it was more of a straight right cross, than it was a jab. a jab is used to set up other punches, and seth’s punch was more out of self defense. plus seth/s back was against the fence giving him more leverage. it was a stronger punch than most people think. and kimbo was hurt bad, he almost fell face 1rst.
by b.w. on Oct 5, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ref was stopping the fight before ANY other punches (beside the first jab)were LANDED (they all missed). Watch the replay. Kimbo was on queer street from the FIRST punch.
by Gord on Oct 5, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
putting ice on his eye and telling him he’s the best and it was a fluke!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Oct 5, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really Mania? You get knocked out but just because you took the fight on short notice, it doesnt count??? Guess what, Seth took the figh ton short notice too, didn’t seem to bother him too much. Quit making excuses, your boy got KTFO!!!!!
by Harrison on Oct 5, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and seth wins this fight 9 out of 10 times
by pancakehead on Oct 5, 2008 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 Kimbo just proved that he is a flash in the pan. He is trained by Bas and he showed that tonight- evolve with the times or fall out with the past. Street Fighters havn’t been able to cut it in MMA for a long time.
by Enniskillen on Oct 5, 2008 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st! ..anyways Mauro Renallo can suck a cock..saying Kimbo wasn’t himself coming in..Like go fuck yourself you rat goof!
Kimbo lost! fair and square..dude got caught and lost to a lightweight.
you guys will have to put shamrock against kimbo now ..since he needs too look like a knock out artist.
man…I knew Seth would win..he fought bigger opponents!
Seth…thankyou
by RobWhiskey on Oct 5, 2008 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hay use GOFF lightly, and YES I am sooooooo glad Kimbo got beat down. Funny the next best thing Elite XC has is Gina.
by iagoof22 on Oct 5, 2008 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only joke that I saw tonight is Kimbo Slice. He’s not an MMA star. He isn’t ready for the spotlight that EliteXC put on him. He’s just not good right now. He’ll get better. Thing is, it’s gonna be too late when it happens. By the time he’s put in the time to actually be an MMA fighter, his time will have passed him by.
Kimbo Slice is a gimmick and nothing more. Their gimmick got his nads beat. Crap happens. EliteXC would be better off not putting Kimbo out as their poster boy. This might actually help the organization….. if it doesn’t completely destroy it.
by Craig on Oct 5, 2008 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I understand the jumbobeard. It’s there to hide the off switch. Lights out Kimo, I mean KimbOooh!
by OldDog on Oct 5, 2008 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was billed as a guy who would fight anyone, anywhere, anytime. Then after he lost they said he wasn’t prepared mentally or physically. Which is it?
Kudos to both men for taking the fight, but it is fitting that Kimbo would lose tonight. As hard as the Shaws have tried to build stars on top of piles of tomato cans, tonight they got a reminder that this isn’t boxing. In MMA, crazy s—t happens all the time. Almost nobody stays undefeated for long.
So now do they feed the Silverback to Brett Rogers? Give Kenny and Kimbo a go at the next event and set up a Rogers/Kimbo fight for 2nd/3rd quarter 2009? I dunno.
I like EliteXC’s shows, though. I’ve got nothing against them. I want to see good fights, is all, and when they have a roster of good fighters not being put to good use often enough it’s frustrating.
by Sportstwo Speeds on Oct 5, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this honestly is a really good opportunity for elitexc, kimbo, and petruzelli, i think they can hype the rematch and get a way bigger draw, i would see it, just to answer the question of was it luck or does kimbo really just suck.
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Oct 5, 2008 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that’s actually pretty smart. it buys them another 4 months of kimbo but I seriously think its time for them to wake up and realize that Kimbo shouldn’t be their be all and end all. They need to promote him less and promote somebody like Lawler instead! They need to hedge their bets behind someone who is far more legit!!
by Anthony on Oct 5, 2008 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with everything you said.
“This loss, quite honestly, should not count against Slice because he was man enough to take on an opponent on literally minutes notice.”
What the fuck? Man enough? How about Seth being man enough to take on that overhyped bum? Kimbo expected a walk in the park against an over the hill Shamrock. Instead he faced a decent fighter in Seth.
The fact is that unless Kimbo’s opponent is over 40 and has a glass jaw, Kimbo will lose every time. He is not an MMA fighter.
Today’s events just confirmed what everyone knew already.
by Flyingknees on Oct 5, 2008 2:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Flyingknees 100%! Seth wins 10 times out of 10! Once I heard Seth Was Signed to Fight kimbo I’ll admit I was pissed. then after about 10 mins.. I started to Laugh and I was like.. Kimbo is gonna get destroyed! I seen Seth Fight and I know his Skill Set.. and Knowing Kimbo’s.. I Told everyone Seth 1st round KO In 22 Secs.. I was off by 6 secs lol. 99% of UFC undercard HW would Kill Kimbo. He is a nobody that has gotten backed By ELITE.. I love 2 watch Events and Im not a UFC Whore. But ELITE just got owned 2night.. Bad match up. Bad call.. AWESOME FOR US! AND AWESOME FOR SETH! Kimbo Vs. Homeless on Youtube in a month. Bye bye. =)
by Freeze on Oct 5, 2008 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
No one gives Seth credit. He STEPPED up FAR more than Kslice. Seth is a 205’er and kimbo is , well what EliteXC wants you to beleive a bad ass striker and KO artist.
I ALSO cant beleive that Mauro said that Kimbo needs or deserves a “mulligan” after taking this fight? WTF???? Kimbo’s entire handpicked can of a career was a “mulligan”
Sucks that we have to go back to watching Slice KO old, out of shape, glass jawed, poor strikers of men in their 40’s….in order to try to recreate the facade that Kimbo is legit
by fightfan on Oct 5, 2008 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give Seth all the credit in the world … I went to great pains to highlight that. But if there is anyone who feels — despite of his accomplishments to date — that he deserves to be considered a top MMA fighter (as Kimbo was) then we need to pack things up. And again, as hard as it may seem to understand, Seth doesn’t deserve that. This was an indictment on EXC … not Seth. Seth and Kimbo deserve all the credit in the world for taking this fight. It’s just too bad it was on such a big stage. That’s the argument.
by MMAmania on Oct 5, 2008 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what your saying is how you think since Kimbo was being billed at the real deal, instead of putting someone like Seth who is capable and proved he is capable of beating him, why not put Arlovski, since Seth isn’t a star, and Arlovski is?
by Robby on Oct 5, 2008 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mania, you’re giving everyone the impression that you actually thought Kimbo was a good fighter!!! Maybe you missed what most of us bloggers knew all along…Kimbo sucks! “9 times out of ten”? Are you joking? I’m surprised that this was Kimbo’s first loss! Did you see his glass chin? It was a jab that dropped him!
I also want to point out the bias that exists among the leadership of Elite XC. After Kimbo was dropped and Seth was going to town on his head, you could see Jared Shaw screaming and jumping up and down in the background that Seth had hit Kimbo illegally on the back of his head. It was hilarious. Maybe I’d be screaming too if I had just flushed away two years worth of promotion and false hype.
by RedDog on Oct 5, 2008 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that was what Mania was saying. However, since you brought it up, it would have been much better for Elite XC to have Kimbo get beaten by Arlovski than to lose to Seth.
by naturalshadow on Oct 5, 2008 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo……..please say this with me……IS NOT A REAL MMA FIGHTER! For god sakes he was found on the internet! He is billed as the internet street fighting sensation! Come on! Just own up and admit that a REAL MMA fighter came out, didn’t even break a sweat, and easily beat a rough around the edges street fighter….plain and simple.
Kimbo is not and will never be an MMA fighter to me. That is my opinion. He is a joke. He was given hand picked opponents before and finally, thank you lord, finally something happened out of Elite XC’s control and when the tables turned, LIGHTS OUT! Now we all were able to see how this supposed TOP MMA FIGHTER/STRIKER could really handle himself. Face it MMAMANIA, Slice is a joke and nothing more.
by AJ on Oct 5, 2008 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mania why would you say Kimbo would beat Seth 9 out of 10 times? You sound like a 15 year old Kimbo nuthugger who has never watched real mma in your life. Seth is a much better fighter than Kimbo, a legit mma fighter, and all Kimbo does is walk in hoping to land a big punch.
by paco on Oct 5, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo is a real fighter, but he is not now (but may be someday) a top fighter. Big distinction.
I don’t think Kimbo wins 9 out of 10 times—there’s no evidence that he’s good against professionals.
by BobC on Oct 5, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mania, when was Kimbo considered a top MMA fighter?
by Harrison on Oct 5, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Tito, I don’t think your purple pimp suit goes well with your giant cranium.
by OldDog on Oct 5, 2008 2:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his head looked smaller. maybe cuz no one in the crowd knew who he was?
by damaja on Oct 5, 2008 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah you notice how the lady interviewing him said that he was the former heavyweight champion?
by RyanHobbs on Oct 5, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA yea! Well that’s CBS NOOBS FOR YOU! lol
by damaja on Oct 5, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As soon as they announced Seth as the opponent, I told my brother in law Kimbo was losing. He didn’t believe me.
There is nothing you can say about the short notice for Kimbo that you can say about the short notice for Seth.
Oh, and Radach Ninja was the fight of the night.
by JB on Oct 5, 2008 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Radach vs Rua looked like some newbies in a jiu-jitsu class. That trash was ugly.
by Craig on Oct 5, 2008 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed with your statement 100% ecspecially the swinging for the fences for half the match, almost embarassing to watch.
by AJ on Oct 5, 2008 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well not necessarily, and i’m not giving excuses to Kimbo because he barely got touched in this fight and still lost, but Kimbo’s fighting style is widely known. Seth Petruzelli’s? Notsomuch. I’ve been following MMA closely for awhile and I didn’t know who he was
by Anthony on Oct 5, 2008 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew the name, but for the life of me I could not remember why? haha.
by naturalshadow on Oct 5, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?!?! carano vs cobald was definitely fight of the night, they put on a hell of a show.
by iitsT.O.baby!!! on Oct 5, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious? The ugly one spent about 7 of the 9 minutes holding onto Gina’s leg.
by PW on Oct 5, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just “less than 30 seconds”?? Call it like it is… it was 11 seconds. The amazing Kimbo fell in 11 seconds. All the more embarrassing.
by ARodOfIron on Oct 5, 2008 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s “unless you’re,” not your.
Other than that i agree.
by MMArk on Oct 5, 2008 2:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many excuses does EliteXC have for Kimbo losing this fight… Bottom line, top of the line fights don’t lose to lower level fighters; regardless of time prepared for a fight. Look at Sean Gannon in the UFC and that says what Kimbo really is.
by Enniskillen on Oct 5, 2008 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok this rant is simply retarded.
Seth is actually a good fighter. He would prolly beat kimbo 9 out of 10 times, not the other way around.
And the loss should count towards the record regardless of the situation.
It sucks that kimbo was put in this situation but guess what, he should have realized that he couldnt be protected forever.
Its better he learned this the hard way now so he can really dedicate himself to improving.
too bad this might be the nail in the coffin for EliteXC if CBS dont renew their contract. We’ll see how the ratings pan out.
by bob jones on Oct 5, 2008 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seth is not a good fighter… he is a below average LHW. He has soem decent skills, but don’t call him a good fighter. We all knew Kimbo was going to lose when he finally fought someone good, we found out last night that we didnt’ have to wait that long!!
by Harrison on Oct 5, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when my friends that don’t watch MMA ask me about Kimbo, I used to tell them that any HW in UFC would crush him. Now I have to correct my position, any HW, or LHW (even LHW that can’t hack it in UFc) Could crush Kimbo. Paul Daley would kick his ass as well. No hate for Kimbo let the man make his money, just don’t confuse a spectacle fighter, with real MMA fighters.
Now Kimbo vs Shamrock makes cense. Now it’s the battle of has beens(with all dew respect) and never been. And if Kimbo wins, the spin machine that is the “Shaws” can easily carry him through a new group of hand picked "Scrubo’s "…. well, until he runs into another half decent fighter. Go Seth that was awesome, expect an envelope full of cash from Dana, because he is happier then I am… without a doubt.
But overall the show was good, I thought all the fights were competitive, I did think that Nelson being stood up when he is in side control going for a Kamora was very shady.. but I expect that.
by riskreturngroup on Oct 5, 2008 2:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised by that stand up as well!!!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Oct 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think it’s being blown out of proportion. Make no mistake, I thought this was a COLOSSAL mistake by EliteXC as soon as I heard the replacement fight when the show went live, but the fact of the matter is Kimbo Slice has not talent whatsoever and sooner rather than later, that was going to be displayed. Well it happened tonight and now EliteXC can start the process of turning to more legit stars to promote their organization. Fighters like Lawler, Shields, Carano, Diaz, etc.
by Anthony on Oct 5, 2008 2:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
9 out of 10 times kimbo wins? wtf? am I the only one who thinks seth would win 10/10 times. He’s a much better striker and wrestler. The only thing he didn’t have an advantage in was weight.
This wasn’t an upset at all, just a bad mistake by EXC.
by sbud on Oct 5, 2008 2:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this site, but seriously how can anyone say Kimbo beats Seth at this point in his career 9 times out of 10? What has Kimbo done to prove he can beat someone like Seth, is Seth elite, no, will he ever be, no..but he is a lot more accomplished and is a very good striker, I hope that was a mis type, if not I hope you can explain it
by Robby on Oct 5, 2008 2:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo came in and didnt do what hes supposed to do ‘strike’. Anyways he got caught and wasnt out he couldve probably kept fighting but i think in all likelyness he probably loses still. Gratz silverback you just upped your stock! Maybe now we can see Kimbo vs Rogers^^ GOOOOO GINA HELL YES FUCK ALL THOSE HATERS GINA HAS BEEN LEGIT AND CONTINUES TO PROVE IT!!
by Khaos_Warrior on Oct 5, 2008 2:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally Kimbo is exposed!? I thought that everyone including the author of this site (especially!) would have finally understood that Kimbo is a fairly decent striker with some MMA training under his belt but that’s it. No different than your average TUF reject. He’s not much different than any of the current TUF’rs except that he looks a lot more scary and he remembered to press record with some of his backyard street fights against folks who had no professional training. Stop being impressed by this! Anyway- he finally met a mediocre but somewhat talented TUF’r reject and he got his ass kicked. Exposed!! No conspiracy. No 9 out of 10. Got what he had coming to him. Just a little bit earlier than expected…finally…fuck me…
by harrymanback on Oct 5, 2008 2:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MMAMANIA is going to wake up tomorrow with a bad hangover. Go over to the computer and be amazed at the non cense he can come up with, while on the sauce. :)
……Kimbo 9/10 ….how many here think that about right?
I say 2/10 for kimbo at best, and thats if Shaw’s are able to pay of Seth at least once ;)
by riskreturngroup on Oct 5, 2008 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo came in and didnt do what hes supposed to do ‘strike’. Anyways he got caught and wasnt out he couldve probably kept fighting but i think in all likelyness he probably loses still. Gratz silverback you just upped your stock! Maybe now we can see Kimbo vs Rogers^^ GOOOOO GINA HELL YES FUCK ALL THOSE HATERS GINA HAS BEEN LEGIT AND CONTINUES TO PROVE IT!
by Khaos_Warrior on Oct 5, 2008 2:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ginas fucked when she fights mrs, santos
by ctd cyanide on Oct 5, 2008 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was actually pretty happy with the event over all. the first fight was sick, and the female fight was pretty awesome too. i honestly wasnt expecting as good as a show as the delivered.
by bloggersarescum on Oct 5, 2008 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo under estimated that fighter, and he paid for it. But the part that tripped me out was when the commentators said “this is the biggest upset in mma history.” That’s some of the dumbest shit I’ve heard, because Kimbo Slice is an 4-0 rookie. That other dude is probably like 15-4. That’s not an upset, Petruzelli beat a rookie!
by Your Lord on Oct 5, 2008 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The shock is people thought Kimbo was actually a quality fighter. A man gets knocked-out in 14 seconds by a guy on one foot with a short jab. Come on. From the way it looks Gina Carano can knock-out Kimbo.
by Rashad on Oct 5, 2008 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I thought everyone already knew that Kimbo sucks! I’m especially surpeised by Mania! I thought he knew his sh*t! Apparently not.
by RedDog on Oct 5, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMAMANIA>>>??? What are U talking about..?? Slice wins 9/10 times ????? Come on man……, What? Slice is a joke. I don;t hate on him, I hope he make all the money in the world, but he has no buissnes being in the cage with a pro MMA fighter. There is no HW in UFC that won’t crush Kimbo… I am just shocked by that comment, I thought all hardcore fans knew that Kimbo is a joke and everyone was just waiting for any decent fighter to come around to prove it. I get on here to get ready for all the I told you so, and the Kimbo Bashing and I read that it was a surprise? That Kimbo wins that fight 9/10? U must have been drinking, cause I have no idea how taking the fight on short notice is any different for Seth…? I thought the change for him was more drastic and way more pressure. Going form a fight with LHW “can”,
to the "mystical Kimbo, who got 30 pounds on him…. did I mention it’s now the MAIN EVENT!!!! Advantage Kimbo, face down on the ground trying to attack the ref… also Kimbo.
Man I can breath again!!! It’s all right in the world again!!!!!!!! where Kimbo is exposed :)))))))))))))
Over all a good night of fights
by riskreturngroup on Oct 5, 2008 2:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, it was just a matter of time anyway. Exc just chose to get the charade overwith a little faster than originally planned. The moment they put Kimbo slice with someone that knew how to fight, he was going to go down. It didn’t matter whom it was.
by RedDog on Oct 5, 2008 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“This loss, quite honestly, should not count against Slice (as did Seth) because he was man enough to take on an opponent on literally minutes notice.”
-mmamania
this quote alone.
If it were slice that had won, you’d be on his balls. Slice is old, one dimensional and popular because of viral marketing of his internet backyard brawls. Slice isnt a good fighter, never was, Petruzelli wins 10/10 times. Get over it, we all knew Slice wasnt a star.
by Mike on Oct 5, 2008 3:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW……How much sweeter was this for the UFC the fact that a former fighter on TUF that couldn’t cut it in the UFC and was only a 205 pounder jabbed KSlice out in 10 seconds!!! As Joe Rogan would have put it….“WOW!!!”
by RedDog on Oct 5, 2008 3:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HA HA HA HA HA told you’s all he was a fu cking BIMBO
by deebow88 on Oct 5, 2008 3:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet Dana White is laughing his ass off as he saw this event. Why the hell was Shamrock training 24 hours before the biggest fight on network television. wasn’t this going to be his “i’ll find out if i’ll retire” fight?
I would love for Shields to go to the UFC…so he could get his ass kicked. The guy isn’t even that good. Semtex could’ve easily won the fight but he blew it.
Overall this was a weird event. that’s the only word i can think of to describe it. ALL of the fights were overshadowed by the Kimbo/Petruzelli main event and how it ended. it made you think “WTF just happened?”
the commentary is always so bad it’s not even funny. i hate the guy with the glasses the most. next time if they want better ratings, i suggest airing a nude Gina Carano weighing-in.
by LiFt on Oct 5, 2008 3:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah, if Elite XC wants some ratings then show us GC’s titties!
by RedDog on Oct 5, 2008 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG.
WRONG.
100% incorrect, and here’s why:
Prior to tonight’s “David killing Goliath” ending of the main event, MMA fans all over the internet (with a heavy concentration here at MMA Mania) were questioning the integrity of EliteXC and wondering if we were about to witness a fixed fight tonight that would further solidify the place on the hype throne for the promotion’s poster boy (Kimbo). I was on that list. I even said to my wife before the undercards started tonight, “I hope the main event isn’t a work.”
The result of the main event may have put a dent in EliteXC’s business plan with the casual MMA fan. But they’ll rebound from that,
However, what they did RIGHT is restore my (and everyone else’s) faith in EliteXC as a legit promotion. Clearly that fight was the real deal. Remember how many people were screaming “fix” after the Thompson stoppage for Kimbo? Exactly.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the EliteXC is to MMA what the XFL was to football. However, they redeemed themselves tonight.
I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment.
-Shane (http://www.silverladder.com)
by Shane on Oct 5, 2008 3:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Elite-XFL comparison is pretty apropos, but it’s Elite’s own damn fault. They hitched their wagon to the wrong horse. They chose to promote a grossly overrated brawler instead of guys like Shields, Daley, Lawler, Rua, etc. If EXC was smart, and clearly they aren’t, they would keep Fergie on the televised card because the public wants to see him, but make him the first or second match. But when he gets higher billing than the champions, guys who have been training for years, they are just asking for trouble. And now they got it.
by PW on Oct 5, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok Ok guys…
Maybe you should change your URK..
back to
UFCMANIA.com ..
haha come ON
Elite XC gave us some MMA. and the UFC would NEVER, and I mean NEVER put one of there ‘POSTERBOY’ fighters in a fight like that in hours notice. Benji vs Daley – GREAT brawl. LOVED IT
Gina vs Kelly – OK poster girl, but STILL, exposing Female MMA.. and Gina is no Kimbo. she really does kick that ass.
Andrei vs Big Country – Elite XC …CROSS PROMOTING… what gets better then that? Also its a chance to show how the IFL boys skills really were compared to the Elite vets.. and you know what? they werent half bad.. Big lost and all, but he fought for sure..
Paul Daley vs Jake Sheilds – GREAT MATCHMAKING.. This had the potential to be the fight of the night.. but Jake dident look like he wanted it to.. he came out thinking he wouldent have to work passed the first round, but he did.. and he looked TIRED. He did everything possible to get the hell out of that cage, but I guess i give it to him for winning.. eh.
Kimbo vs Seth – Elite XC did us a favor by showing us Kimbo once more. Do you really have that big of an ISSUE with that?
REALLY? I personally thought you guys would of LOVED it, from the way your talking about it. But you spit on the org. They tested Kimbo for MILLIONS of people on Cable tv.
Look at it this way.
There is no way out for Kimbo in this option.
He could of man-handled Ken right? and everyone would of blamed Kens age, and his will-to-fight.
He could of NOT FOUGHT. and his hype would still be there, and speculations of Ken throwing it.
but instead
Kimbo fought. a ‘’no – name’’ in Seth. and LOST. although on paper it was Seths match anyway. They gave us a show, embrace it. ITS MMA ON CABLE TV
FOR FREE!
by Mike Fed on Oct 5, 2008 4:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no offense mania but i think you are way off, kimbo would lose this fight 9 times out of ten, technique wise he is well overmatched,
by kiwi on Oct 5, 2008 4:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goodbye ELITExc Hello Showtime/CBSxc! Good night of Fights. CBS/showtimes offer just got slashed in half…
by derreck on Oct 5, 2008 4:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kimbo should stick to fighting bums in car parks. my nan could slap seth petruzelli around!!! lol
by HALE UK on Oct 5, 2008 5:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the way that the Elite commentators made Seths win like Rocky. Anyone one can turn up and win. Bullsh*t, Seth is a pro mma athlete who has been decicated to the sport for a number of years. Kimbo is the Rocky figure and he just met Clubber Lang & the undercard.
by UKmmaBOY on Oct 5, 2008 6:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There was NO upside to this fight for Kimbo.
EliteXC shuold have scraped this fight and elevated the Gina, Shields, and Arlovski fights to be the Main Events.
I mean the Kimbo fight promos started just before the 10 PM end, so they esily could have scraped the fight, showed Cyborg’s fight, and showed the CBS Evening news and keep the programmin on schedule.
What a blunder. Retarded as everyone is saying.
Someone(s) in EXC/CBS should be fired for this.
by fil on Oct 5, 2008 6:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Show some respect to Kimbo for taking the fight. He said he would fight anyone the organization puts in front of him and there is proof right there. Does anyone have a video link to the post fight press conference?
by RyanHobbs on Oct 5, 2008 6:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“This loss, quite honestly, should not count against Slice (as did Seth) because he was man enough to take on an opponent on literally minutes notice.”
I’d agree if he fought someone who was ranked higher than him and in his weight class.
But sadly, no.
Kimbo is garbage like I knew all along, I guess “street certified” is slang for “I am garbage at professional fighting.”
Now EliteXC has no hope of raising that 50 million dollars of debt they are in, the Nov 8th show will be a real MMA show, and Kimbo Slice is the worst investment in MMA history, well besides maybe YAMMA, but I’d rather “survive” YAMMA again than ever see Kimbo Slice again.
GOOD GAME, KIMBO, GOOD GAME.
by DirtyML on Oct 5, 2008 6:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He would not beat Seth 9 out of 10 times either.
Quite a few grammatical and spelling errors as well, I’d imagine this was written after one too many strawberry daiquiris with misty eyes.
by DirtyML on Oct 5, 2008 7:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett Rogers must have been laughing so hard.
Reading his “public letter to EliteXC” is twice as hilarious now as it was before tonight.
As they say on one of my favorite TV shows…
“MYTH BUSTED.”
by DirtyML on Oct 5, 2008 7:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL myth busted…. CLASSIC.
Kimbo’s a bum over-hyped loser. Man he’d get his as handed to him if he picked a fight in a night-club in my little crappy coastal home town in England (seriously!).
by MrAngry on Oct 5, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Rogers is probably as pissed off as Scumbag Jr. was. A fight between an undefeated Fergie and Rogers would have made him a ton of cash. Now that fight has lost a bit of luster.
by PW on Oct 5, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=2992081
here’s a portion of the post fight interview with Kimbo
by Jason Moore on Oct 5, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo BUMBO Slice…… HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. The prick. Couldn’t have happened to a bigger dickhead. I pray he gets smashed in his next fight too so it’s back to car park fights against hand picked opponents.
All you bum boys bigging Kimbo up saying he’d beat some UFC guys just watch the replay HA HA HA he hardly got hit and he was rollnhg on the floor like a girl HEE HEE HEE.
by MrAngry on Oct 5, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not the only one to predict this outcome.
Over on Sherdog I saw plenty of people saying Petruzelli was going to win this.
by kayriss on Oct 5, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seth would destroy Kimbo 10 times out of 10. He’s a real fighter, and had he not been fed to the wolves early in the UFC, would probably be a force.
Check out his background.
Personally, if EliteXC would focus more on it’s true talent and not that Kimbo garbage I’d be far more likely to pay attention.
Not suicide to this viewer.
by Jon on Oct 5, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you see during the Kimbo/Seth Fight Jared yelling at the ref? It was during the fight replay! It was when they showed the replay it over and over again watch Jared behind the cage yell at the ref. You can perfectly see him yell..“It was in the back of the head!” HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GONNA CRY! Check it out! Thats big news! Get a video of it! Do you think he wanted Kimbo to win? HAHAHA Love the site!
Brad Whigham
by Brad on Oct 5, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo sucks. I was waiting to see someone expose this hyped chump. hahahaha
by Vato PIT on Oct 5, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Last nighty’s show was absolutely lame. EliteXC is amatuer hour. The only fight that was half-decent was the first one with Rua. I’d be shocked if the CEO of CBS (who has already gone on record as disliking MMA) renews their contract. R.I.P. Elite XC.
by Muscle Dolphin on Oct 5, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I went to the fight. Fans were booing, not the fighters, but booing EliteXC. It looked like nobody was in charge between fights. Everybody and their mother was hanging on the cage which made it had to see the action. They had no sound on the post fight interviews. I’m glad I didn’t pay for my tickets, I would have been pissed. I did get a good laugh when Kimbo got knocked out. You should have seen some of the reactions from the weekend warriors in the crowd. Priceless.
by Capt. Doug on Oct 5, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like someone has their panties in twist now that Kimba got OWNED. Why? I have no idea. If you’re a hardcore fan, or even a half decent pundit of the sport – which you should be having this blog and all – you’d smell a hype game a mile away. Hardcore fans have been laughing at Kimba for quite some time. Recalibrate your BS meter man! Unfortunately, now we’ll certainly see twice as much PR and BS from EliteXC now they have to get him back on the comeback wagon. I can see the promos now as they roll in can after can to fight him till he gets his "revenge" bout.
by MrEd on Oct 5, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore, MMA on the whole was a loser last night. Can Ranallo be any more “over the top”? Shields top five? How ridiculous. And what’s with Tito shooting his mouth off again about a potential contract? Does he ever learn? Tito seems to be grovelling for a job. At any rate, what company in their right mind would sign a guy who may not ever fight again? He is going to be out of training for at least 6 months with what appears to me to be a serious back injury. If Tito was smart, he would take Lorenzo’s offer and get on with it. I think that he may be Yoko’d.
by Muscle Dolphin on Oct 5, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah i thought shields was kind of exposed last night. if daley would have had any ground game/groud defense whatsoever, he would have koed jake. jake’s striking looked weak and his full mount reminded me of jake o’brien. actually shields reminds me alot of matt hughes 3 or 4 years ago, wich means he wouldnt get past the 2nd rnd with gsp. shield probably did the right thing resigning with elite b/c he would probably have a couple of losses in the ufc by now.
by b.w. on Oct 5, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Daley was actually laughing at Shields’ elbows from full mount.
by PW on Oct 5, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. This is why it’s never smart for a promotion to put their entire operation on the shoulders of one, unproven guy. Kimbo as a poster boy just doesn’t work. Yes, he has trained hard under Bas and has a great work ethic; but he’s a 34-year-old novice who doesn’t excel in any range. Seth finally exposed that.
This result somewhat makes up for the last fight which was STOLEN from James Thompson, who whooped Kimbo’s @ss in the 2nd round. Kimbo should never be a headliner, and the fact that EXC is still struggling and losing money proves that. Put him on undercards and make him work his way up (doubtful he ever will) like any other novice MMA fighter.
by Fred on Oct 5, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it just me that thought last night was a decent show? so what the headliner lost. it was a great card with exciting fights, people will come back. chuck’s still got fans and he’s 1 for his last 4 fights
by kmoney on Oct 5, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes i enjoyed the event as well, but i think the shaws are very bad for the sport of mma. if elite were to get rid of both of them permanantly and merge with affliction alltogehter, that would be a big step up towards being a legitimate mma org. plus fire MAURO!
by b.w. on Oct 5, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree. I’ve been very critical of Elite XC but last night was a decent card. The female fight was a good battle, Arlovksi got a great win, Ninja showed he’s over rated and it was very satisfying watching Kimbo get knocked out. Not bad for a free card. Played a drinking game where we took a shot every time Elite XC said something lame. Was pretty drunk by the end of the broadcast
“Will Kimbo continue his path of destruction…..” shows Kimbo fighting Thompson in the background- first shot of the night
by RiverHorror on Oct 5, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone connected with EliteXC needs to just get the hell out of the sport. It’s obvious that they don’t understand what makes a potentially great MMA fighter the way they threw everything behind a big guy from the hood with a beard. Total gimmick! This isn’t WWE, and it’s obvious that EXC management never understood that. They thought Petruzelli was as safe a risk as Shamrock? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! Beyond dumb.
The big, scary boogeyman bit doesn’t scare trained fighters. It would have been easy for EXC to promote a legitimate heavyweight like Roy Nelson. It’s less likely he would have embarrassed them like this. ANYONE with a few years of MMA training would have been a better investment. Instead, EXC decided to showcase a street Mike Tyson wannabe. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Top it off with ghey-ass $kala trying to complain to the ref about blows to the back of the head, and you have an EPIC FAIL all the way around.
If any MMA website is still talking about the farce which is Kimbo a week from now (or ever again), then that site deserves to lose ALL its traffic. He and EXC are done.
by Fred on Oct 5, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this blog, but the author has it terribly wrong. This was no fluke – Kimbo doesn’t win 9 times out of 10. He … and read my typing here … LOSES 9 times out of 10. Seth is a karate champion who dropped this dude with a jab. It was no fluke. Kimbo was just exposed. I don’t know how the writer of this author could have made such a blunder.
by tmoney on Oct 5, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have to love how people read into opinion pieces. Mania hasn’t rained on Petruzelli’s parade, he actually gave him props for stepping up – Mania’s point is that EliteXC blew it with this whole messed up situation. Kimbo is a very marketable fighter – that’s why he headlines, and he will continue to headline shows. EliteXC’s brass has a whole lot to sift through now and figure out some very important next steps. As much as I think the hype over Kimbo is way too over the top, these two guys stepped up to the plate on about an hour’s notice and the cards fell where they did. Kimbo’s never claimed to be the best, he just wanted to fight, plus he was a class act after the fight. Great write up Mania, point taken and understood. Cheers.
by Seamus on Oct 5, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s the whole “Kimbo would win 9 out of 10” and “Kimbo deserves a mulligan” that pisses off MMA fans. Everyone is acting like Seth is a no one when in fact he is WAY more accomplished and talented then Kimbo will probably ever be.
by Snipasi on Oct 5, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have time to read the entire thread, but it looks like my man-crush on Kimbo Slice is all over. Much like how my man-crush on Houston Alexander ended in similar fashion. I guess I’ll have to wait until the next “superstar” comes along!
by GBrown on Oct 5, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um…..am I the only one who found the card entertaining?
by introvert on Oct 5, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed the card – some good fights – Shields is a beast on the ground and Benji came out with a huge win and Gina always makes a card entertaining, all in all the actual fights were really decent…cheers.
by Seamus on Oct 5, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for Kimbo, Elite is using him to build their brand,, which doesn’t say much !! Seth exposed Kimbo for what he is `a newbie still learning,, Shaw should be shot on sight,watching him freakout at ringside,he is such a little worm ,,,other then that`great night of fights.
by Qmonster on Oct 5, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lmao at thinking Kimbo wins….EVER against Seth
by texen_1 on Oct 5, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least they didn’t throw a title match at him, ala brock and dana
by kmoney on Oct 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya cause Kimbo is on the same level as Brock…
by Snipasi on Oct 5, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just to be fair. kimbo would kick the ass of anyone on this mother fucker and he’s a decent person. im not a nutthugger, this was actually the first time i’ve seen him fight(besides the youtube shit) cause i’m not really that interested. he’s a head hunter first and foremost and while it makes some of his fights exciting, it makes him predictable to an opponent every time. if an angry kimbo came at me ready to throw down i’d assume the fetal position and proceed to shit myself. of course im about the size of kenny florian with 10% of his skills. he seems like a stand up guy in more ways than one.
by jonsey on Oct 5, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A little off the topic here, but is it just me or is Gus Johnson (the Elite XC anouncer) absolutlely horrible when he interviews the winners? He has ZERO personality. Bring back Bill Goldberg or something!
by Kevin on Oct 5, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not understand how you could possibly say Kimbo wins this fight 9 out of 10 times. I’m a fan of Kimbo and Petruzelli. Alot of ppl hate on Kimbo, but he’s always been been respectful, and trains hard. Once they announced this, I knew Kimbo was going to lose, no doubt. I didnt see it happening so fast, but I just knew it. I’d like to see him fight again, but obviously the hype train will have a hard time getting going like it was. We’ll see.
by Joey 1.0 on Oct 5, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Keep in mind part of me realizes that Slice wins this fight nine times out of 10”~~~~~I hope this is a typo. Petruzelli has beaten world class kick boxers… Kimbo is a good boxers but thats it. Petruzelli had Kimbo’s number in every aspect, let me repeat that he has beaten world class kick boxers… do you really think Kimbo was going to beat him 9 times out of 10? Petruzelli has better stand up and better wrestling (seeing as he wrestled all throughout high school). Petruzelli wins that fight 7 times out of 10 probably
by ILJO on Oct 5, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im dissapointed in you Mania… Joe Rogan and I knew that Seth had a great chance of winning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHG8nPvegO0&eurl=http://www.mmaspot.net/showthread.php?t=1602
Do you sill think Kimbo wins 9 times out of 10?
by ILJO on Oct 5, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they act like beating kimbo was some great task no one could do, when in fact kimbo is very easy to beat by many other mma fighters. I was laughing at elite xc when kimbo went down, i was like hahaha there goes their poster boy. I also think its funny someone like seth who couldnt make it the ufc comes and beats elite xc prized fighter. I also like how elite xc and affliction always refer to the ex ufc fighters that they have, lol it makes them look desperate to get people’s attention. I dont much for the elite xc announcers, they dont seem to educated in the aspects of mma, like when the gay dude with pink tie says he should get a muligan, haha kimbo has had a muligan every fight so far by fighting cans. I dont have anything against kimbo, but elite xc has made him out to be some great mma fighter, which he is far from that, i mean his stand up isnt great, and he doesnt have any other skills really cept stand up.
by troy on Oct 5, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst possible scenario would have been to not have Kimbo fight. People would have turned off the entire show and ratings would have been in the toilet. So a Kimbo loss is better than no fight… and given that the knockout was so quick this is going to generate a lot of buzz. Now, EliteXC can reschedule the Shamrock fight. Kimbo can brutalize Ken, and then get a rematch with Petruzelli. Not necessarily as good as a Kimbo win, but not the end of the world.
It would be dumb not to give Kimbo another chance. He’s still a draw, he’s exciting to watch, he’s improving, and he’s shown a lot of class in taking the fight and how he handled the loss. No matter what he’s done in the past, he’s behaved as a total professional since he started fighting MMA.
by Kevin on Oct 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mention numerous times that Shamrock “bailed” on fighting Bimbo.
He was forced to withdraw via medical order, get it through that tiny brain of yours, k thanks.
by PonyBoy on Oct 5, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Were do u get 9 times out of 10 kimbo wins? LOL
yes Seth is no giant among MMA fighters, but he is used to fighting at HW. And he would kill James Thompson. Were Kimbo couldnt. The minute they said Seth was in i thought well this is going to be very tough for a green Kimbo. Seths whole background is striking.
Who did i think would win. I wsnt sure, but I new it would be tough for Kimbo unless Seth was taking a dive.
I just cant imagine anyone who is supposed to have a clue about MMA say 9 times out of 10 Kimbo wins, LOL what has ever done to make you think he beats in reall veteran of MMA 9 times out of 10. Aside from the James Thompsons of the world.
by Badguy on Oct 5, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seth came in not training at all for kimbo i thought he would get murdered but i am glad that kimbo over rated slice in finally beat now and buy a ex loser tuf member
kimbo your 15 min of fame is up
by bryant on Oct 5, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, this author thinks Kimbo would win 9 of 10 against Seth ??
I highly doubt that is the case. I think the ease at which Seth P dismantled Kimbo shows it would go 9 of 10 to Seth.
Kimbo is powerful and pretty quick but he was exposed of his sloppiness and lack of skill. And if it went to the ground OMG, they’d be sweepin Kimbo off the mat. That said he is a great street fighting legend.
by Josh on Oct 5, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much money the author of this article lost on kimbo, what an asshole, listen to the guys fucked up statements, kimbo wins 9 out of 10 fights against seth, oh bullshit dick tracey, keep your personal betting life off of the net, you are almost as big a retard as jared shaw.
by Ultimate Fighter on Oct 5, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been telling him this for two years…some people you just can’t reach…
by Jesse Holland on Oct 5, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where the hell does the whole “Kimbo wins 9 out of 10 times” crap come from?
by Aaron_W on Oct 6, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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