UFC Quick Quote: War Machine on the war path
by MMAmania.com on Sep 29, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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"So the UFC decided to let me go because of my statements after the death of Evan Tanner. They tried to make it look like I was insensitive towards Evan and that that was the reason I was being cut. In all honesty my bulletin regarding Evan was bashing the UFC and the way they treat fighters and not negative to Evan in any way. if anything I was sticking up for Evan and the way he was mistreated by the UFC just like the vast majority of it fighters. Anyway, since my bulletins and all the bullshit being talked about on the underground several of Evan Tanner's close friends and family members have been in contact with me. 99 percent of them were not mad at all and pretty much let me know that they knew where I was going with the whole bulletin and for me not to worry about hurting any of them directly. SO yeah one of his close friends just messaged me a few hours ago and let me know that the UFC sent NO ONE to speak at his funeral. He let me know how much this saddened the family and how very disappointed they were about it all. This is an EX CHAMPION of theirs, NOT some scrub that fought for them once and thats it. Are you trying to tell me he doesn't deserve any of the UFC brass' presence at his funeral? Doesn't deserve a single kind word or statement of gratitude for the services that he provided their organization?"
-- War Machine -- the fighter formerly known as Jon Koppenhaver before a legal name change to his nickname -- issues a scathing attack on his former employer via MySpace.com dubbed, "Evan Tanner and the faggot ass UFC." The UFC apparently cut the former contestant on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 6 after he refused to take a fight against Brandon Wolff (no upside) and made questionable remarks shortly after the death of Evan Tanner (speculated he committed suicide and he didn't). He may need a muzzle.
(Thanks to BloodyElbow.com for the heads up.)
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Yep, agree to disagree. Koppenhaver is such a loser that I don’t give a f**k what he says…
by The Negation on Sep 29, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon Mania, show ‘em what I gotta say about Koppenhaver. Show ’em how I dissed him…C’mon…
by The Negation on Sep 29, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit…War MAchine’s a loser. He spits senseless shit…
by The Negation on Sep 29, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
War Machine brought everything that came his way on his lame-as$ self. If he hates the UFC so much, then why the hell is he still talking about them? He should be happy to be cut and move on. Instead, he’s trying to mask the fact that he’s a chump that’s afraid to fight. I’m glad this punk got submitted in 50 seconds in his last fight. He can’t compete on the UFC’s level.
by RedDog on Sep 29, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. He doesn’t. This kid talks as if he is a seasoned veteran who knows the in’s and out’s of the UFC, or as if he was one of Tanner’s close confidants. In all reality, he is one of the same “scrubs” he was talking about. Perhaps he would’ve stayed in the UFC if he hadn’t gotten “bigger than his britches” about who he was going to fight. He wanted someone “with a name.” What a joke. The only reason this kid’s name is recognized is b/c he legally changed it to something that,in all honesty, is rather ridiculous, not because of his talent in the cage.Someone below made a very good point that the UFC could have been equally criticized for using Tanner’s funeral as publicity if they had showed. Rather, I think they erred on the side of good taste. There was a discussion on a thread last week that had Tanner’s relatives saying how kind and helpful the UFC had been. So. Does War Machine have a point? I doubt it. If he does, is it his place to make said point? No. Absolutely not. The only thing this overgrown child’s opinion should be taken seriously on is how to be a C-level pro fighter, and how not getting mental help will affect you in the long run. Nothing else.
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus he cited no sources, so everything he said is just Hearsay.
by kitsunex on Sep 29, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right on chefdaddy!! i dont think he would have called the ufc faggot ass bitches if he hadnt been cut. if he has a problem with how the ufc handle things he should just leave and not use evan tanners death as a way 2 bitch at the ufc
by the dude on Sep 29, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but if the UFC never sent a rep., that is f"ed up. He was a big part of the history of the UFC. I think he should have more praise than they gave him!!!
by iagoof22 on Sep 29, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
iagoof22: We shouldn’t speculate on something that a guy named War Machine said. Who knows what happened behind the scenes; whether the family wanted anyone attending the funeral, etc. Gotta take everything he says with a grain of salt…after all, he’s a bitter loser.
by RedDog on Sep 29, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said Chef. As for War Machine, his name is going to look kinda strange on a McDonald’s name tag 2 months from now.
by naturalshadow on Sep 30, 2008 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC is a JOKE
Not one UFC guy went to his funeral? Good job Dana, good job UFC…you losers
All this crap will come back to them…sooner or later fighters will start dropping the UFC like flies.
They may be the biggest now….but watch, UFC is going to burn once the fighters have a UNION!!!!!
by The Truth on Sep 29, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is some prophecy you’ve got right there. Anythin’s possible though, so i won’t rule this one out. All empires crumble…Just look at the NBA. Players are goin’ to Europe right now like Childress and I’m sure Starbury will follow suit once the New York Knicks drop him. It’s all about the $$$!!!
by The Negation on Sep 30, 2008 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure refusing that fight didn’t help much, though
by GoColts on Sep 29, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, thats most likley the main point (wich he failed to mention in this blog), getting his butt kicked and then trying to say who he will or wont fight is the same as a letter of resignation in the ufc. roger huerta brought up money issues and lost, i didnt see him getting fired. war machine trying to bring up a a false notion on how the ufc treated tanner(reports ive read have the ufc taking care of tanners family behind the scenes, where it counts most, not some plaque on a wall),is absurd and uncalled for on his part. he’s sounds like he is trying to use tanner’s death as an excuse for his own failures. i think he needs more than a muzzle, he needs about 2 minutes alone in the cage with anderson silva. war machine is an idiot!
by b.w. on Sep 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know where I can see what he orginially said in his blog.. that got him the axed?? Just curious.
by PhilQNY on Sep 29, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here u go PhilQNY… http://6throundmma.com/2008/09/ufc-drops-war-machine-over-evan-tanner-comments-and-declined-fight/
by THORAZINE on Sep 29, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. He cannot dictate his matches. This is probably damage control on his part.
by OJR on Sep 29, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys may call me insensitive, but enough is enough. the same guys that were calling for tanner to retire, are now crying and going on about what a great champion and person he was. I get it, i was a big fan, he’s dead and buried, now let it be. We got free mma coming this weekend then the free ufc, we got better things to talk about, and it’s not rehashing the death of a champion!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 29, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really feel any sympathy for him. The guy had piles of problems that he alone caused. And that little trip to the desert was little more than a successful suicide attempt, and his last blog entry almost spelled it out for everyone.
by PW on Sep 29, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you PW, comments like this are deleted daily, glad to hear you being sensible…in life we remember an addicted gambler/alcoholic in death a wise man. Please if I die, hate me as much as you do now…don’t tribute me unless you’re a fan now (sorry for stealing your line stink)
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 29, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time taking a guy that legaly changed his name to ‘War Machine’ seriously on any topic.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 29, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ocho Cinco is a much cooler legal name change than War Machine
by AJ on Sep 29, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same guy that want’s to die in a knife fight.
by Macho Bullshit on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and isn’t he one of those one and done scrubs he was talking about?
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering this is his last viable MMA related topic, I don’t think we will be hearing from him again until he commits a felony crime and ends up being the Jail Machine.
by DirtyML on Sep 29, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or we may hear from him from all his fights in the Phillipines. Where he ended up in a bar fight trying to pick up a 16 year old prostitute and figured he could beat up on her pimp and prove himself as WarMachine defender of the poor.
by dandeman on Sep 29, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In his blog, he even says that he’ll just f*ck our women and beat up guys here. Man if he acted wrongly in front of me on the street, he’s the one who’s gonna get beat up. No one’s gonna get away with that sh!t here in Flipland. Not even a faux-MMArtist with a fake-a$$ name like War Machine.
by The Negation on Sep 30, 2008 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is he bashing the UFC when he couldn’t even compete for s**t in it. He was barely an employee of theirs..it’s like working at McDonalds for a week, getting fired for overfrying the chiken nuggets and bashing Ronald McDonald, then mulling on to all of your buddies how they treated him and all other employees so badly. He needs to get a grip, a life, another job..
by Big E on Sep 29, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS ANALOGY!!!! and yes, I knew I was yelling.
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think he gives two shits about tanner, just an opportunity for him to make his recent shortcomings with the UFC seem like they arent his fault. from what ive heard the UFC has been taking very good care of tanners family. GO AWAY KOPPENHAVER, neither the UFC or tanner need your shitty insight
by medecine balls on Sep 29, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
War Machine doesn’t know the whole story simply by getting a text from a friend of Tanner’s. Like any good company, I’m sure Evan’s family and those closest to him were sent sympathy and kind regards from the UFC brass.
Not to mention, it would not have been cool to make a spectacle of Tanner’s funeral. In other words, people could just as easily have said the UFC was capitalizing on Tanner’s death by showing up and making it all about the UFC.
War Machine doesn’t have the whole story.
Maybe we should call him Sore Machine.
by MMACrossfire on Sep 29, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about we dont call him a machine at all! That guy sucks! And givin his story on TUF, he should have been kissing the UFC’s a** for letting him fight for them!
by JV on Sep 29, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i kinda liked him on tuf, but like serra said, he’s his own worst enemy, being all negative and stuff. then he had his war with j-roc and i thought wow! this kid might have a future. then he lost to yoshida and it was like oh well, its 1 loss and yoshida is a stud. but then he became his own worst enemy again with these “terror blogs” of his. your right JV, he was lucky to be given the chance to even be on tuf (due to an injury to…i cant remember). i look for he and melvin to be “cellies” someday.
by b.w. on Sep 29, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
war machine is an idiot!! if i talked sh*t about my employer id be fired immediatly. so this idiot talked sh*t about money problems with the ufc so now hes gonna fight in smaller shows for less money?? i dont get it. fighters come a dime a dozen and at the end of the day he needed the ufc and the ufc didnt need him.
by tuffguy01 on Sep 29, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea I don’t really care for war machine. He is just putting on a show and using Evan’s name to do so. I mean I’ve seen UFC do a lot worse like cutting Arlovski.
by Wanderlei Fan on Sep 29, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but you know, they should have someone speak at him funeral. i know from experience that once theres a funeral thats it you know what i mean. this really dissappoints me.
by belfort_fan on Sep 29, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy sounds like a friggin’ knucklehead. He’s probably not smart enough to ever be a good fighter, the best ones all seem to have a good head on their shoulders and this guy seems to have the IQ of a tree stump.
However, if it’s true that the UFC didn’t send anyone to Evan Tanner’s funeral then that is in extremely poor taste. IMHO Dana himself should have been there just to pay his respects. It’s not necessary for him to get up and say anything, unless he was asked to, but simply to show some respect to his former champion.
Not that I believe much this guy says, probably just sour grapes for getting cut by the company he wanted to be part of. And who knows, maybe the UFC were asked not to be there!
by JRK on Sep 29, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great point I will never watch another legal UFC pay-per view again. They (UFC) suck and do not deserve my money until they grow up!!
by a on Sep 29, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why don’t you wait and get the whole story before flapping your gums like that. lol. You believe anything people tell you and jump on a bandwagon, or do you get as many facts as possible before making up your mind?
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how this dude “a” is some regular poster who is too scared to post his real screen name. Use your regular name, chump!
by RedDog on Sep 29, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mania wouldn’t post my original comment to you, so suffice it to say that you’re an *diot.
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. War Machine…HAHA!lolol hey. a lot of us are learning that our words carry an impact on people’s lives, even on the internet, where people love to take a sh*t on for fun. I don’t doubt your good intentions but its important to first do no wrong… and if you can.. convey positive messages that are in good taste cuz not everybody is a light hearted like you and me. Evan’s loss was sad, but theres nothing we can do can will change that situation. All we can do is take the lesson out of each mistake, learn, and change for the better. take it easy killa!!
by coach ed papavitch fka kama kaze on Sep 29, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The UFC is really a despicable company, and all there unethical and ignorant business practices will hit them soon enough just like it did Wallstreet.
I will not purchase anything UFC.
by C on Sep 29, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please enlighten the masses with specific facts so that we may see your opinion and either agree or debate. Thank you.
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes “a” again…still using a different screen name so we won’t know who is really acting like a P*ssy on this site.
by RedDog on Sep 29, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s definitely a…Just a regular poster who’s scared to use his screen name. No one’s gonna guillotine you here anyway. Pathetic…
by The Negation on Sep 30, 2008 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C – Wow, this same line of “logic” has been spewed since… when… 2002? And look at the UFC now. Yeah. They’re really hurting.
by MMACrossfire on Sep 29, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s really funny that War Machine is trying to use Tanner to obfuscate the fact that he refused a fight, that’s really all there is to this story.
by Really funny on Sep 29, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah like changing your name will make you famous…
1. Change your name to War Machine.
2. Refusing a fight opportunity offered by the UFC because you think you’re so famous that you can pick your own fights.
3. If you change your name to War Machine you do NOT refuse to fight anyone!
MACHINE FAILURE!
by JonnyBoy on Sep 29, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that third point is actually extremely true because a war machine NEVER turns down a war for any reason
by randy murders on Sep 29, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he does have a point i mean if i died today i would like to have someone from my company i work be there for the gratitude and hard work i gave them
by bryant on Sep 29, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bryant – None of us has any idea what kind of sympathies and regards were sent by the UFC to Tanner’s family and loved ones. Don’t take the word of one young, bitter fighter.
by MMACrossfire on Sep 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the guy that thought he was a predator, a spartan, and that this country was too civilized for him, is now complaining because of a lack of acts of kindness!! Be consistent, man!!
by ARodOfIron on Sep 29, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i enjoy watching the UFC but the more i become a fan the more i realize just how much fighters are underpaid. Bashing on War Machine doesnt change this fact. he is just being outspoken now because he is not under contract.
by Salatious on Sep 29, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone tell me why this douchebag is STILL getting press coverage?
by Graham on Sep 29, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the funeral was strictly a family affair?
Maybe the UFC has been in direct contact with the family and helping them out in other ways?
by Diesel Power on Sep 29, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you Diesel. This is a sensitive time for family and friends and I believe Dana and co. are doing what they can for them more discreetly. Perhaps they are helping to help, not helping for press coverage.
by chefdaddy on Sep 29, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chef, I agree w/you most of the time but idon’t see dana doing much for anyone but dana.
by CLETIS on Sep 29, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
War Machine is just being an ass now. He refuses to acknowledge that he was also released for turning down a fight, which is another reason why he was released. If it wasn’t for an injury on TUF6, nobody would know who he is and we wouldn’r be hearing or talking about this guy.
by Ian on Sep 29, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was an ex Champ and under contract with the UFC and not 1 UFC rep showed up to his funeral. If that’s true, that ain’t right.
by jonny on Sep 29, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what War Machine said…
I don’t think it’s true.
I don’t anything that comes out of War machine’s mouth is true.
He’s just doing what it takes to make him looking like a good guy.
The guy is a loony for crying out loud!
by JonnyBoy on Sep 29, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am waiting for the obituary stating; “Man known as WarMachine, knifed in fight.” Man seeking fight fame in the phillipines ends up with butter knife up his rectum.
by dandeman on Sep 30, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to take anything this douchebag says seriously when he cant even spell ‘faggot’.
by spawn on Sep 29, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heres to hoping this is the last of his stupid blogs.
by medecine balls on Sep 29, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sadly, there’s a lot more of these to come. they’re actually bulletins not blogs but whatever. i’m one of his friends on myspace and end up coming across them. they get a lot of comments too, some good and some bad.
by Ian on Sep 29, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they let War Machine go because he is a mental case.. and in all honesty so was Evan Tanner it’s just not good having guys fighting in the UFC that have those personal problems cause when they lose they go crazy.. I mean who didn’t know Evan was going to kill himself after reading the article about him going into the desert..
by RoB on Sep 29, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love him or hate him,he has a point about one thing.The fighters need to make more money.The money is there.Where is it going?Evan Tanner was a Champion amd I would bet he had close to nothing in the bank.
by fghtfn on Sep 29, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s called “Savin’ up for the rainy days”…
by The Negation on Sep 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree fghtfn. dana says the money isn’t there but he has made 200 million at ten percent. None of the fighters have made anywhere near that and they are alot more important to mma than dana white
by CLETIS on Sep 29, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.. listen to Tito Ortiz and you get the truth!
by RoB on Sep 30, 2008 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tanner probably had nothing in the bank because he was an admited gambler/alchoholic/manic depressive person…. He wasted most of his earnings on nonsense. I don’t think that there was anything that oneone could have done to save his life. He was a good fighter but a troubled soul plain and simple. It sucks to see him go out like that, but as most I knew he wouldn’t come out of that desert alive…. RIP
by The Beast on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone… I said oneone, I’m an idiot…
by The Beast on Sep 29, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
war machine is full of shit. his angle is to turn people against the ufc by championing evan tanner. fuck you koppenhaver you were not even a average fighter you were let go, deal with it. go join another organization and work your way up. the ufc has expressed respect for the life of tanner, maybe the family prefered a private service. if you were as important as you think you are maybe the family would have invited you
by day1er on Sep 29, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The UFC gave Tanner a second third and fourth shot to rehab his career and restore his life. Tanner didn’t earn that headliner on fightnight against grove; that was the ufc giving him a break. I don’t know if the ufc had someone at his funeral but I’m not believing anything Jon K has to say. He’s a completely unstable guy with a chip on his shoulder.
by paco on Sep 30, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
war machine is an unknown.but ill give him kudos for being a tough s.o.b. while other fighters just keep quiet when it comes to the ufc…because of fear ..this dude said it like it is..im sure a lot of silent majority feels that dana is just making all these claims that ufc is making tons of shit..but wheres the money for the fighters???? its time fighters stand up and question the UFC…wheres the friggin MONEY?
by ree on Sep 30, 2008 5:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i usually dont even ever leave a comment but i have to agree with john…
but my point i want to make is how much of a scumbag john is and he needs to turn his life around…i mean john if you read this your actions make you look like a scumbag…change your ways my brother…
by PATRICK on Oct 1, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t it sad what happens to people who lose a parent at a young age? His dad wasn’t there to “punk” him and show him authority, hence the reason he goes around talkin smack like he does. So sad.
by ummhmmm on Oct 1, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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