Quinton Rampage Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva could happen at UFC 93
by MMAmania.com on Sep 24, 2008 9:41 AM EDT
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The blockbuster light heavyweight match up between Quinton Jackson (28-7) and Wanderlei Silva (32-8-1) will more than likely not happen at UFC 91: "Couture vs. Lesnar" at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on November 15.
The explosive (and long-rumored) third showdown between "The Axe Murderer" and "Rampage" was expected to co-headline the major pay-per-view (PPV) alongside the showdown between UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar.
We first passed along news of the booking earlier this month right here.
However, it appears that even though bout agreements were distributed to both fighters several factors prevented the fight from taking place, including the legal obligations that "Rampage" must fulfill in November.
The good news is that Jackson and Silva could collide for a third time on the Super Bowl weekend show on January 31 that also features the enormous clash between welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre and lightweight kingpin BJ Penn.
There's an outside chance that it could also go down on December 27 if the PPV needs more juice; however, we're told that January is the ideal target date.
This, of course, is bad news for UFC 91: "Couture vs. Lesnar" event, which is being billed as the "Biggest Fight in UFC History." The card could now feature a co main event of Kenny Florian against Joe Stevenson -- a great fight but certainly not the caliber of Jackson-Silva 3.
Stay tuned for more updates on this developing story.
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I think UFC 91 needs another big match-up. I think Rich Franklin vs. Lyoto Machida, Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami, Jon Fitch vs. TBA, or something of that caliber.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 24, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Machida knocked out Franklin already!
Machida vs Evans needs to happen it’s only fair..
Machida/Evans undeafted..
Machida gots wins over BJ Penn, Rich Franklin, S.Bonnar, Tito Otriz, come-on!
Evans MAchida needs to happen.
Rampage vs Silva needs to happen so the winner can move up.
Someone knockout Vera already
by mikeybear on Sep 24, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The card NEEDS a co main event! Or does he expect us to be happy about the Lutter vs. Doerkson MEGA FIGHT? LMAO!
by john on Sep 24, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought Rampage Wand 3 was sucky idea. Nothing is going to change no matter how much “his boxing has improved” or “He doesn’t train with scrubs anymore.” Wand-Machida and Rampage-Shogun 2 sounds way better. 91 is starting to border freakshow without a co-main event.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 24, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
relax they will put somthing togeather, there is no way the last show of the year is a sub par card, they will definatley put a good co main event togeather, have faith.
by DB on Sep 24, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brock lesnar is going to miss weight, joe stevenson is going to test positive for steroids, and rampage is going to have legal issues… main event Doerkson vs Lutter… YEEEEEAHH BABY!!!!
by brendan on Sep 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida has wins over BJ Penn (come on man his normal weight class is 155)
Rich Franklin (who normally fought at 185)
S Bonnar (really who cares)
Tito Ortiz (really who cares, this guy isn’t even top 15 none of these guys are) What’s your point?
by Kory on Sep 24, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-4 were champions… thats my point
by mikeybear on Sep 24, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait do you even know mma.. stop wearin tapout shirts thinking you know mma.. go back to the Kimbo website chump..
by mikeybear on Sep 24, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 out of four were champions in lower weight classes. The lightest of those guys took him to decision. Franklin pushed the pace and got caught, in a rematch I have a feeling Franklin takes the win. And the Tito fight didn’t really do much to prove the hype machine that is Machida. I’m not saying that I don’t think Machida is an awesome fight but I’m saying the fights he has done don’t prove much. Forget letting him get an easy win over Rashad Evans, I say let Rashad fight Forrest and Machida fight Rua. Rua is much more of a dangerous opponent, a better name, and a straight shot to the number one contender. This way Forrest isn’t sitting on the sidelines waiting to defend his title. Anyone care to explain how this isn’t the best way it can be done (noting that the other fighters are currently locked in fights)
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fight against Rich was open-weight, and I think I remember reading that Rich weighed in more than Lyoto for that fight.
Soko was on most people’s top 10 list before Machida tooled him.
Tito may be an ass and a ducker, but aside from Chuck and Randy, nobody’s really been able to dominate Tito the way Machida did. Tito is still top 15. He beat Forrest two years ago, and gave Rashad Evans his toughest fight.
by Pat on Sep 24, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Someone knockout Vera already”
I don’t see Vera getting knocked out. He’s a very technical striker.
by Pat on Sep 24, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet A silva could do it. With ease.
by James S on Sep 24, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I forgot about Andy lol. But it won’t be easy. Vera has reach and patience. And if he can establish his wrestling early, it will make things easier on the feet.
by Pat on Sep 24, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would bet the house on Machida in a match against Franklin, and im betting the odds would be pretty decent for machida because ace ventura definitely has a bigger name/fan base, Machida will destroy Franklin any day of the week!
by brendan on Sep 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see Vera getting KOed any time soon. He has never really even been hurt, let alone close to being KOed. He better get his shit together though, one more lame performance and he’s going to be losing a lot of fans. I for one. I hope it’s a good sign that he hasn’t said a word for awhile and maybe he will do his talking in the cage.
by Gord on Sep 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This definately sucks. There has to be another blockbuster matchup to get the kind of PPV number Dana is expecting. Maybe Franklin/Machida would help, but I don’t know about to biggest ever.
And another thing, potentially Wandi could fight for a total of 36 seconds in 2008, WTF! How does the UFC get one of the greatest fighters of all time and a fan favorite and have him fight for 36 seconds in 1 year!
by BNF on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right man he needs to fight at least 3 times a year
by mikeybear on Sep 24, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this card needs another big fight, if they want it to be the biggest card ever.
by roy on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than likely January of next year.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Kenny Florian vs Joe Stevenson fight being a co-main event is a joke. Stevenson just got destroyed by BJ Penn and now he’s going to co-headline one of the biggest PPVs ever??? This fight, as a co-main event, severly degrades the quality of this PPV.
by Spider Rulz on Sep 24, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so, are you saying having Franklin as a co main event does the same thing because he lost to Silva in a devastating fashion? Losing to a P4P champ is nothing to be ashamed of and doesn’t take anything away from a fighter.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh GOSH I HOPE SO ! I’m gonna be in Vegas to watch GSP own Penn, this fight will only make the card sweeter !
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 24, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP by TKO round 4 or 5! im with ya there!
by brendan on Sep 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it does make the Dec 27 show, it will instantly guarantee more buys than ever in history.
by ARodOfIron on Sep 24, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or they can put it on superbowl weekend and get have the same results.
suprbowl weekend if they do bj penn vs GSP they need a STACKED card in Canada! to get more ppv then ever.
Penn vs GSP
Liddell vs Shogun
winner of
Sherk/Griffin vs Nate Diaz
Dana White vs Tito Ortiz
by mikeybear on Sep 24, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this news sucks, I was all pumped to see this fight on the Couture card! Now I’ve gotta wait. I hope they add another big fight to that card.
by brac on Sep 24, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait to see Wandy kill this guy again.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 24, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably good news, because Silva’s said all along that he needed to wait until Dec. or Jan. in order to be ready to fight.
by Rich B on Sep 24, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why does he need so long…since his win over chuck he’s been in the octagon for under a minute with no injuries….I’M SICK OF FIGHTERS SAYING THEY WANT TO FIGHT MORE YET THEY ONLY FIGHT LESS AND LESS….ITS BRUTAL!!!!!!
by McArthur on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^capitals indicate I was yelling at my computer^
by McArthur on Sep 24, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What win over Chuck are you talking about?
by DBG on Sep 24, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This fight along side BJ vs GSP would a crazy night.. that I will count the days down to see.
by PhilQNY on Sep 24, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean his loss to Chuck. But, I get what you are saying. Wand destroys Jardine in 36 seconds, taking no damage at all back in May and now we aren’t even going to get to see him fight again this year? WOW! We got to see Wand for 36 seconds in ‘08. The UFC just does not let these guy’s fight enough anymore.
Back in ’06 Tito faught 4 times that year. We got to see Chuck fight 3 times in ’07. The UFC is getting bigger but the real stars are fighting less.
by natedogg77 on Sep 24, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans may not desere the title shot yet but he going to get it because Forrest has got to defend it sometime. Forrest has only faught once this whole year.
by natedogg77 on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure why you think Florian/Stevenson isn’t “the same caliber” of a fight. Rampage/Wand 3 is a pretty pointless fight that only masochists really want to see. I’d much rather see a much more competitive fight between two guys who have never fought than a fight between one semi-washed up fighter who’s already demolished his opponent TWICE before.
by Nouvelle on Sep 24, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But both of these fighters are completely different to when they fought the first two times. Rampage has probably improved a great deal, Wandy has probably got worse. It makes it exciting because, who cares if it is 2-0 already. I wouldnt care a whole lot if it was 5-0 already, the fact is that they are both exciting fighters, with big names, and are completely changed from the last time they fought. Plus it promises to be a great and exciting fight. Its all good. Check out my vid by clicking on my name XD
by Adam on Sep 24, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s your source on this?
I need to know how certain this of happening (the fight being pushed back) because I bought a ticket to this event based soley on seeing this fight.
by Anthony on Sep 24, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dayamn that blows man, i feel for the people who bought tix to ufc 89 also
by brendan on Sep 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just another disappointing happening in the ufc. This downgrades the card considerably. Now instead of having an explosive fight between two feared strikers we get two fights with proven lay and prayers in stevenson and block chestnar. Colour me unimpressed.
by Harry Triangle on Sep 24, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good, I’m going to 93. I went last superbowl weekend ufc 81 and the card was average at best. I’m way more excited about it now.
by Josh H. on Sep 24, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this was acyually one of my favorites. there was some pretty exciting fights at 81 plus bj just completely owned.
by Ted on Sep 24, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant wait to see this fight. This will sell so many PPV’s. I wanted it to be on the same card as Lesnar Couture. Rampage is going to win this third fight for sure. Them im going to get my money.
by belfort_fan on Sep 24, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ill bet the house on it that Rampage wins.
by YouAint_NoDaisy on Sep 24, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again since I’m going to be in Vegas for this fight I hope to see…
GSP VS PENN
RAMPAGE VS SILVA
LIDDELL VS WHOEVER !!
HUGHES VS SERRA
That would be my dream card ! What does everyone think ?
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 24, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont care to see serra hughes but i wouls love to see gsp vs penn!!
by YouAint_NoDaisy on Sep 24, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I wouldn’t like to see that fight as a main event, but one of the 4 fights I would LOVE to see it.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 24, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who fucking cares about hughes/serra? They’re both a couple of bums. but yeah, if it gets pushed to 93 I’m gonna probably have to sell my 91 ticket and go to 93. I still have to go to Vegas tho since I’ve already bought my plane ticket and got the time off work..
by Anthony on Sep 24, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
theres plenty of wild girls who have no inhibitions out there in vegas anthony! youll have fun
by brendan on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all of these fighters are SITTING ON THE SIDELINES FOR TOO LONG!!! Liddell, Rampage, WANDERLEI…come one fight these guys 3 times a year at least….theres no reason for them to be fighting once a year!!!
by Chadx23 on Sep 24, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liddell fought once this year and probably wont fight again unitl next year….same with Rampage and Wanderlei
by Chadx23 on Sep 24, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Superbowl weekend is the WORST time to have Penn/GSP 2. I think that the UFC wants to get a lot of mainstream media coverage, but the truth is most of the media will be covering Superbowl 43 in Tampa. Most MMA fans will watch regardless, but if the UFC wants networks such as ESPN to do heavy coverage, they need to change the date. The night before the Superbowl will be chaotic in the sense that most shows like Sportscenter will probably be filming in Tampa. It’s a bad business decision to have a fight of this magnitude overshadowed by the Superbowl.
by pUniSHment on Sep 24, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First of ADAM sounds to me like you want to see this because you want rampage to win and no ther reason! Why would wandi want to fight him if ranpage has improved so much and he had declined??mmmmm
Personally id love to see the fight as there are not enough big names colliding in the ufc lately, and as we saw with liddell v wandi, they often throw out amazing fights!!!!
I also agree that fighters need to fighting twice a year minimum, especially the liks of liddell, who needs to keep fighting as fights are running out for the GREAT MAN!! He fights more often he wins more often in my opinion!!
The ufc should put on a super card for a one off for the fans and break all records in MMA and make a true name for the sport!!
Id have…. (based on who is fighting just now)
A Silva v GSP Main event
Griffin v Wandi Co Main event
lesnar v Congo
Liddell v Shogun
Randy v Noguiera
Rampage v Evans
Franklin v Bisping
vera v Machida
Penn v Thiago Alves
Tito v Henderson
Thiago silva v sokodjo
There are too many possibilities im gettin flustered:)
up the ppv and sell the best card in history!!!!???……oh i can dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by mo on Sep 24, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t see how
dec has evans vs griffin
big nog vs mir
shogun vs machida probably
jan has gsp vs penn
hughes vs serra
nov is the best for the wandy vs rampage fight
by bryant on Sep 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man! they really dont want Wanderlie to fight much huh? thats about a 9 month layoff and hes not even injured!
this sucks!
by ramon on Sep 24, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck could probably fight on the 91 card possibly against winner of vera/jardine, soko/cain or HELL MACHIDA OR FRANKLIN! I THINK JAMES IRVIN IS GONNA BE IN AN INTERRESTING MATCH UP IN HIS NEXT FIGHT LOL…… ANYONE ELSE THINK COTE ACTUALLY MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE IF HE FOCUSES ON BOXING
by COlin on Sep 24, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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