John McCain video on 'ultimate fighting'
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No audio for me! Is this the old video where he called it Human Cock fighting, or is it some new stuff?
by john on Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions
It’s new stuff, he was asked about that though and he said that MMA has taken new measures to make it safer, although he doesn’t really like it personally.
I think he’s being careful cause if he bashes MMA, then he loses ALL our votes!
by MikeD on Sep 22, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks guys! Now that I think of it, I believe I saw this interview on TV last week, but I do not remember what channel it was on.
by john on Sep 22, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
He already lost mine. Chances are pretty good he’ll die in office and Palin the nut will be in. I’ve had enough with presidents that are obsessed with the rapture and suppressing science.
by Landowner on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
But you are fine with higher taxes and bigger government?
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Obama for president, stop watching Fox news and Bill O’Republican Reilly.
by MikeD on Sep 22, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Lets all watch the biased, hate filled, failed sportscaster Keith Olbermann.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen. And McCain isn’t going to die in office. That guy is in good shape and he def. has another 4 good years in him.
by brac on Sep 22, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t wanna get too political…but I won’t be voting. Mccain is better for “upper and middle class” people with more than average incomes, but he chose palin. Obama (even though he distanced himself) went to a churcj with a racist preacher for years, hence I don’t trust him. IMO Hillary Clinton would’ve been best for the country at this time! Bill was one of the best presidents of our time, and there is no doubt in my mind that she could have taken us out of this recession as well as the war!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s amazing to me that people still buy the whole smaller govt. lower taxes propaganda that repubs spew…
by The_Cannibal on Sep 22, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mexicutioner generally I would agree with you Democrats do raise taxes and believe in bigger government but there is two things to quickly rebut one of those. Taxes Obama promisses a tax cut to everyone who earns under 250K a year, if you earn over that congrats but I have to agree with Obama taxes for the rich need to be back where they were under Clinton.
by Steven on Sep 22, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no insentive to be prosperous under Obama. Besides, if he raises taxes on the corporations and oil companies, who do you think those companies, as well as the small business owners that make above $250k, will pass that taxes on to? Consumers, thats who. In the end those taxes just get passed on to the working class.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re absolutely right, I’m asking for a 10-15k raise a year (contract expires nov.1), if we strike, the whole cost of the raise will be lost in one week by the company. They are very dumb to not just pass this “small” raise onto the consumers.
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
am I the only one that doesnt give a sh*t? I vote for Mcain because it will be cool to have a vice president that you can Jerk off to!
by john on Sep 22, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Mexicutioner it’s a hopeless battle, I hate john mccain, obama, and H clinton. They all suck, I actually find it LOL funny, that kevin thinks hillary would have brought us out of a recission. The president doesn’t pass laws by himself, nor does can he intruduce laws on his own. In fact the president has very little to do with the economy. He’s is just easy to blame. Want to blame someone, blame f’ing congress, they pass the spending bills.
Why did no one vote for ron paul, that’s what I want to know. You can all bich about the current situation all you want, but the fact remains he would have been much better than any candidate on the ticket. The one’s who will jump my guns, are the one’s who never heard him debate before. He would have cut the government way, way down.
Right now the presidency is a popularity contest, does any one know the economic plans for john mccain or obama? Wait a second, they have never sat down and explained them to the media, because the media doesn’t care.
John MCcain is not a true republican in the first place, he obviously is a big government, more money out of our pockets type of guy. Obama has missed, what 300 sessions of congress? WTF! He can’t even do his job right now, then he wants to raise minmum wage to 9.40? Ya, lets make inflation out of control.
Then kevin also brought up the “recession”, what recession? Most economist’s aren’t sure if we are in one. The economy is just stagnent, what did you expect an economy to boom ,of debt that’s never gonna get paid back anyways, forever?
As we speak, we are borrowing money from other countries, to give to other countries. Wow, what can go wrong right, at least we pay them back right. NO, we print more dollars to pay them back, driving up inflation.
If anyone wants to read up on the only person who can actually fix this situation go to ron paul’s website.
I woudn’t suggest supporting the current republican party or the democratic party. Both are curropt and stealing money from the American people.
End rant.
by newguythegunman on Sep 22, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry kevin didn’t mean to bash you, it was just an example.
by newguythegunman on Sep 22, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, john must be hard up to jack off to palin!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
no offense taken. you’re partly right, the president doesn’t have the only say in things, but if you’re telling me that this war (cause…Bush) didn’t make this country go broke, you’re naive. We (under clinton) had a surplus for the first time in years, then “cowboy” bush enters and decides we need to invade iraq (for no good reason). BYE BYE surplus, hello debt in the tune of trillions. I’m not a fan of helping oter countries out, I realize it’s the diplomatic humane thing to do, but I’m more concerned with our own than some dying kid in africa…there are plenty of hungry kids here.
Other views I have
Abortion…pro choice, yet don’t believe in it! Feel like why do I have the right to tell someone what to do.
Welfare reform…100% for it, if a woman has 2 kids from 2 dads, then gets pregnant with a 3rd from a 3rd…mandatory “spaying” of said female. On top of that, monthly drug tests to get assistance!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
RIIIIGHT Cause most Democrats didnt vote for the war in Iraq,
by DBG on Sep 22, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Just want to say…. Taxes get LOWERED for 95% of you under Obama’s plan. Its not a raise in taxes, just a readjustment so the wealthy stop screwing the non-wealthy.
by EazyEismydad on Sep 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you say Ron Paul? One of his stances was to require assault weapons in every home! the guy is nuts!
by DB on Sep 22, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
as a unified country, of course everyone voted for the war…as patriotic americans post 9/11, they had to. no democratic (or non bush republican other than Mccain for that matter) would have ever gone in there to begin with!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s funny that i almost always disagree with Kevin, except in this discussion… i agree 100%, and it isn’t about MMA.
by The_Cannibal on Sep 22, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I ALWAYS give an opinion that I believe in. agre or disagree, at least you’ll always know I keep it real and speak exactly how I feel!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
mandatory spaying of females, like the man has nothing to do with it… how about getting those deadbeat dada to pay up for getting stinky dink
by Egads on Sep 22, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Fu*k politics! It’s all bullsh!t to me! Now back to MMA!!
by The Negation on Sep 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m at work so I’d appreciate someone letting me know what its about as well, but there is no way this can be the video where he calls it human cock fighting, that’d be a big mistake to make with elections so close.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
after reading most of the comments, I got to say one of the most educated guys on this site is also one of the most bashed. good stuff mexicutioner!!!!! I won’t be voting for mccain, but great stuff!!!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 22, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I think I’ve done enough political ranting for one day.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Same old John McCain backing away from earlier positions because he sees it’s a more popular sport now. If he had the power back then we wouldn’t have ultimate fighting today.
by MrFyer on Sep 22, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
Agreed, he’s part of the reason its not in NY and many other states. Down with McCain! Vote Nader lol
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2008/06/22/ufc-president-dana-white-i-consider-john-mccain-the-guy-who-st/
1) He’s not backing away from an earlier position. The sport as it exists now and the one that existed back then aren’t even close to the same.
2) There’s nothing wrong with changing your opinion based on new evidence. When people start calling that flip-flopping, we get idiots in the government who will never change their minds about anything.
by Ricker04 on Sep 22, 2008 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Ricker its ok to change your opinion but when you do it right near elections it isn’t your opinion that you’ve change but your stance as long as its in the popular. Take Palin fighting the bridge to nowhere… after it was already rejected as a total waste of US money. Thats flip flopping for votes. Take for instance I don’t like romance movies but I meet a girl who does… suddenly I like romance movies, I wonder why? After I don’t need her anymore I don’t like romance movies anymore, you dig?
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
It’ funny how people that are anti-Palin always refer to the bridge to nowhere. It’s the only thing they have to use against her. No one ever mentions the fact that the Alaska has a surplus that is projected to be between $5 and $9 billion and that families will receive a $1,200 per person energy rebate. And for you information, I’m a registered independent. Ive do not vote along party lines. I have voted for both dems and republicans.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Good stuff Mexicutioner. I love it when people actually back up their opinions w/ facts.
by LJ on Sep 22, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah well her new projected surplus has now come under investigation by the treasury (audit out of schedule) also maybe the reason why alaska has such a bigger budget is because of its lack of relying on infrastructure. you have less count per capita and it GDP is higher value because they are our oil reserve less big cities to manage(police,irrigation,electricity,etc.) plus thei fuel cost way less since transporation of fuel is so close. Palin has no idea what she is doing. they asked what her posiontion and thoughts were on president bush’s foreign policy and shes said she didnt know what that was! lets face it she was elected for pure voter reasons period! they want woman in office as long as she isnt democrat!they want a simple woman that wont fight back or have enough guts to stand up to the republican congress.
by santiago69us on Sep 22, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Palin’s approval rating is only 86% among Alaksa Indepedndents and 75% among Alaska Democrats. Why wouldn’t the far left (not regular Dems because there is a difference) be afraid of her. Plus she is a MILF soon to be a GILF.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I also would vote Republican if they had a candidate I liked. When I use an example to explain my side please don’t try to say that is all the evidence I have against Palin… I’d fill this page up with reasons why she is not qualified. The fact that she is being babied and taken care of is more than enough. She has only done one interview has, one debate against Biden and is only campaigning in Florida shows the Republicans know not to push too hard with her because she is an easy target. She is against abortion and for drilling for oil in Alaska. She has tried to prevent animals from being listed as endangered to make sure her drilling plans are not ruined. She hires and fires friends for her administration instead of hiring the most qualified. She is very inexperienced with less behind her then Senator Obama. She claims Russia is her neighbor because you can see an Island of Russia from an Island of Alaska. McCain’s age also means there is a possibility of her becoming President. I’m sorry but giving your state revenue but at the same time taking the most er marks (or near the most) compared to all 50 states doesn’t really mean much. The fact that she has called the bridge to nowhere a waste yet still is trying to build a multi billion dollar road to her hometown says masses. Don’t think I haven’t researched the issues at hand. All you are doing is the exact same thing both campaigns have done and that is to skew the facts by leaving out information. I may be independent but that doesn’t mean that you are not biased in this election. It clearly shows with your comments. Regards
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you really busting on Palin for earmarks when Obama has ask for over $900 million in earmarks? And you say I’m biased, you just did a whole op-ed against Palin in favor of Obama. Can you explain to me how Obama is going to cut taxes for 95% of americans when less than that amount even pay taxes? Explain to me how he is going to socialize healthcare without raising taxes? Explain to me who is going to foot the bill when Obama gives the $50 billion he’s pledging to the U.N. when we are already in a deficit? Explain to me the vast amount of executive experience Obama has again? You say you are not biased as well, but you seem to be in the tank for Obama.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you are “thinking” to hard and you think “am” better than your are.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Your completely off the handle and haven’t even been reading what I have been writing. You are just reading what I am writing to attack me which is making you look petty. I have not said one thing trying to sway people to Obama neither have I said that he is better than Palin. Please try to pay attention and look at the pros and cons of Palin Mccain without bringing up Obama Biden… I’m looking at this election as who is right for the country, not which team is better than the other. Having terrible and worse as opponents doesn’t help anything. Please go read my other statements and you will clearly see that I don’t think Obama is much of a better choice than Mccain just rather that you keep brown nosing for Palin and Mccain so I keep giving reasons why they should not be president.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My post may have been moderated however I’ll restate this. Not once did I say I was voting for Obama or say that Obama was the better candidate over Mccain or Palin. Please stop reaching and cutting my words. Read my whole post and take it in as a whole, not just the things you want to try and cut on.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you are being blind, you run smear attacks without any real regard to what I am saying. The fact of the matter is it doesn’t matter because I did not once say who I was voting for or who I favored. Stating that “you did it too” doesn’t make it ok for you to do it. Seriously you have not once done anything to prove me wrong on this except to try and bring up a point that has no meaning to what I have said. If you want you can continue arguing but I keep getting moderated for only stating my opinion not even in aggressive fashion. I’m done arguing because cut and paste attacks are never helpful or truthful, niether is making fun of ones name but I guess it really doesn’t matter because you didn’t read this part.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A vote for Obama is a vote for terrorism… he has been seen associating with several known terrorists and even admits to it. He applied for a career with the FBI a while back and was denied because of these contacts he has
by brendan on Sep 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, William Ayers has donated to his state campaign and attended fundraisers for Obama and he’s even chaired non-profits with the guy. And this guy has the balls to bash McCain on any of his alleged associations.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mexi, your mma insight absolutely BLOWS, but your political stuff is pretty good!
Why do u care about politics so much? No matter if they raise taxes or not, it wont really matter because you still only make $3.25 an hour waSHING DISHES! LMAO, just teasin today! I had to get a cheap shot in!
by john on Sep 22, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
good one john,way to bust his chops.Mexi seems like he know his stuff. my voting tactics are easy. cant say why because i would be attacked and call a racists.thats all im going to say.
by GEEZZZZ on Sep 22, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God someone with an ounce of intelligence!
And what’s with calling Palin “a nut”? What has she done besides be a conservative that warrants that attack? Look, I am an atheist and I am for Stem Cell Research and all of that, but I have no problem with Palin because she has different views. She doesn’t want creationism being taught in place of science and evolution… and even if she did it isn’t going to change a thing. No way creationism ever gets passed on in place of science, so who cares? The majority of this country is religious or has religious beliefs, so why can’t she as well? I’m in the minority as an atheist but even I can see both sides of the story. Why can’t my peers?
by Mike on Sep 22, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If I wanted my kids to know about Creationism, I’d take them to church where they teach that kind of thing. I understand she has the right to her own opinion just like when it comes to abortion but its when you push that opinion onto others when it becomes wrong. Abortion is a religious opinion and so is creationism, so keep it where it belongs, to the religion that believes in it. We don’t teach kids not to believe in god, why should we be teaching them to believe in god?
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How is abortion “a religious opinion” since when can murder be classified as “a religious opinion”?
It is true that the Bible says “you shall not commit murder” so does that make it “a religious opinion”? If we did dismiss all these “religious opinions” regarding murder, stealing, rape, etc. we are all in a lot of trouble!
by mark on Sep 22, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol thats just it, I don’t think its murder to have an abortion but I do think it is when you kill any animal for almost any reason. I think its more of a murder to bring a child into a world when you are unprepared to do so, finacially or mentally. Don’t even pretend you can put them in a foster home and what put them threw a screwed up world? Abortion IS a religious opinion and is not universally accepted as murder. So you are wrong and trying to push your beliefs onto me. Stop. I bet you are someone who thinks smoking is wrong too as well as not wearing a seatbelt.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i may misunderstand what u have posted,BUT if you are saying something along the lines of its murder to kill a cow for food, but not murder to kill an unborn child…u sir are a fucking idiot and its opinions like yours thats wrong with this world. abortion isnt murder? why should we teach our kids about God???? dude i feel sorry for you and on the day of you judgement.
by GEEZZZZ on Sep 22, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for saying that Ricker04. I couldnt agree more. He was right on the money with almost everything he said there.
MMA has changed. And i completely agree with him, in the sense that this sport needs a union.
by chris on Sep 22, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
he was refering to boxing needing a union, not mma. boxing needs a union 100 times worse than mma, with all its alphabet titles.
by b.w. on Sep 22, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus he could do with a few more votes! If he doesn’t offend lovers of the sport maybe he’ll win them over (if they’re desperate enough).
by Ca$z on Sep 22, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The sport has changed. At least he says what he believes even if people disagree with him.
Even Dana White credits McCain with making MMA what it is today – the sport we all love.
by mark on Sep 22, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
At the time he made the statement about MMA being human cockfighting he was pretty accurate. There were no rules and no weight classes, just two guys in a cage, anything goes. Crotch shots, eye pokes, head butts and everything else were legal. Now we have rules and state sanctioning for safe and fair competition. If it’s not McCain’s cup of Metamucil-laced tea then so be it. MMA is not for everyone, but there is nothing wrong with someone changing an opinion when new information is available. It’s not like Hillary-Rodham and others claiming to be against the Iraq invasion from the beginning, now when it’s popular to be against the war, even though she voted in favor of it numerous times.
by PW on Sep 22, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
yea and its not like Obama is a big MMA fan….who gives a crap if McCain supports MMA or not….I dont! People will look for ANYTHING to bash a politician…“oh hes just changing his opinion now that its popular”….riiiight, MMA is not a widely accepted sport for alot of people….most people at my work her eme talking about a UFC fight and they have no clue what that is and will say “oh is that where those guys get in a cage and beat the sh*t out of each other?”…“that should be illegal”
by Chadx23 on Sep 22, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He says “it’s not his favorite sport” but “thay have cleaned it up” and he says he thinks its “in compliance now with things we would approve of.” Thats a far cry from his earlier opinions of it being human cockfighting when in fact it wasn’t sanctioned. For those of you that didn’t know, there is a world outside of MMA. I find it laughable that individuals think this will be a deciding issue on weather or not people will vote for McCain, as oppossed to real issues that may effect their families and their country as a whole. Even if he didn’t approve of the UFC, he’d still be getting my vote.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
You obviously have not been watching this campaign. They don’t even talk about any issues, they have no plans for fixing anything (health care, SS, economy, or Iraq). Give me a break everyone has their own reasons for voting for someone and him blocking MMA is as good as any. It shows is inability to relate to a younger generation and an inability to reform his oppinion after the sport reformed itself to fit his standards. This is nothing but a cold calculated choice on his part to maintain he recieves more votes. If MMA wasn’t on Spike and wasn’t as big as it is today, even with the changes made, McCain would not be backing it.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Any one that factors on John McCains opinion on any sport is someone that really doesn’t have any clue as to what the real issues are in the first place. It’s not like the guy is going to ban the sport or anything. You and all the other “Pearl Jam”-mers can waste their votes on Nader. It’s your right.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I never said that was why I wouldn’t vote for McCain, I can defend a position anyway I want and you can call me all the names you want but it doesn’t change that you have no leg to stand on. John McCain has not given one sensible fix to anything America is dealing with, his commercials are clear cut lies, and his choice of VP shows how this isn’t about reforming America but rather appeasing the Republicans and trying to trick the American citizens. I say vote for Nader because Obama gives me about as much to go on as McCain. A man who claims change with no real plan for it? This election is as bad as the last when we had to choose between Bush and Kerry, or before that Bush or Gore. Give me a break the real problem is that we can only choose left or right, red or blue and that not everyone falls in one of these two categories. When you admit to not knowing much about your economy but make promises to fix it while at the same time trying to give tax breaks then you don’t know what your doing. Your just saying things to get into the presidential office. I have an idea lets continue to depend on oil!
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
you’re right, you do have to choose left or right. a vote for nader is a wasted vote. we can thank nader for 8 years of bush. we, the middle class, the working poor, can not survive on 4 more years of bush policy. if you truly believe neither candidate can give you what you want, you have to buckle down and choose the lesser of two evils.
by ActionJackson on Sep 22, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Action: so you feel its justifiable to redistribute peoples income to others? You are ok with hound outs and socialized healthcare that will in fact raise taxes, even for people that won’t benefit from it?
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And bailing out these big corporations doesn’t do that?
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i am against the bailing out of businesses as well. it’s business, and that’s the risk you take. But, it does ease my mind to know that these big companies employ thousands of people, and a decent percentage of these people will now be able to keep their jobs.
by James S on Sep 22, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
In the begining Mccain was big on getting it regulated, now that it is and there is rules for protection for the fighters, he’s not against it. That was his whole point in the begining. I really wouldn’t care if he likes it or not. God help us if Obama gets in there (I can here the Soviet national anthem playing already).
by Rubberman on Sep 22, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
funny, I hear middle eastern music (if Barrak Hussain Obama bin laden gets elected).
by mark on Sep 22, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
McCain sounds irish…. I bet he’s an IRA terrorist sympathizer!!!!
stfu
by ActionJackson on Sep 22, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont supprt Obama, but the Hussein remarks are pretty lame.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL I thought It was pretty funny mark
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 22, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
actually his name isn’t Barrak Hussain Obama bin Laden. it’s Barack Hussein Obama. you kind of limit the integrity of your attacks on someone when you can’t even spell their name correctly.
by ActionJackson on Sep 22, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Mccain does have a right to change his mind after learning more about MMA. I know I’ve met people that I didn’t like and after I got to know them, I changed my mind. And vice versa! Same principle applies here! I like Mccain’s current position on MMA! Maybe we’ll see him at ringside!
by Dana's a crossdresser on Sep 22, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
Well, atleast he cleaned up his overly opinionated jarble.
by Luppers on Sep 22, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
I bet McCain could spell it right.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
the_mexicutioner is shutting everyone up. well done.
by The Killer on Sep 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, McCain definitely could spell faggot correctly. i’m sure he uses it a lot. most hateful old curmudgeons do.
by ActionJackson on Sep 22, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
damn you guys have fucked up elections.
you need to start looking after your economy now too and stop worrying about terrorists as much as you do. just invade privacy and youl catch em at a lesser expense than war. seriously your economy is headed into the gutter!
as for him not liking mma well he is a wrinkly old man and a boxing fan why would he like it
by the heat on Sep 22, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
Really. You from the moon Heat? The worlds economy is crumbling, not just the U.S.
by RiverHorror on Sep 22, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone votes based on a candidate’s MMA position, he/she is an idiot. I love MMA, but compared to the financial stability of the country, it’s in the noise. However, I do think Palin takes Biden via spinning backfist in the 1st.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Sep 22, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
I have some pretty low opinions of boxing, but I don’t think that would disqualify me from running for President. My addiction to hookers, on the other hand . . . .
Palin by triangle choke – and Biden will love every conscious second of it.
by Hyde on Sep 22, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I am doubting that more than 95% of us in here make less than $200k a year…
When will you all learn that both sides are going to raise taxes no matter what…
at least with Democrats the uber rich will be taxed the way they should…
by CageFightingKip on Sep 22, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
EXPLAINING OUR UNITED STATES TAXING SYSTEM WITH BEER
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.
If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that’s what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. ‘Since you are all such good customers,’ he said, ’I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beers by $20. Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.’
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected.
They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men – the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’ They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before and the first four continued to drink for free, but once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. ‘I only got a dollar out of the $20,’ declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, ‘but he got $10!’ ‘Yeah, that’s right,‘exclaimed the fifth man. ’I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got TEN times more than I!’
‘That’s true!!’ shouted the seventh man. ‘Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!’
‘Wait a minute,’ yelled the first four men in unison. ‘We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!’
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something very important….they didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill.
And that is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes DO get the most benefit from a tax reduction. They also PAY more than the rest. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible!
by James S on Sep 22, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mexicutioner – James S – 2012, you guys are great!
by theTRON on Sep 23, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish, my background is to shady. Would make from some hilarious ads for the opposition though.
by James S on Sep 23, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Obama For President.
Mccain bashing the sport of the future just lost him a lot of votes
by James on Sep 22, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Stop watching Fox and CNN. Stop voting with a party, and vote for the person. McCain sucks, Obama sucks. RON PAUL ROCKS!!!
by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
His position has changed and it’s “softened” for his own benefit, since Anheuser-Busch is now a major sponsor of the UFC. John’s wife Cindy is Chairman of Hensley & Co, an Anheuser-Busch distributorship in Az. John was also employed as VP of Public Relations until the late eighties. John’s son Andrew (from his 1st marriage)is Hensley’s CFO.
This is also why he was against MMA in the early stages, because Anheuser-Busch was a major boxing sponsor.
by gPie3 on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
I would love to see Obama vs. Lesnar live! That way, Obama can’t get elected! I mean, how do you run the country you really hate without limbs and with a broken jaw! Hell, I’d vote for lesnar then! lol On a serious note; MMA is taking over slowly but surely. All the politicians are doing is just slowing the progress! But, not for forever! MMA will get into NY!
by Dana's a crossdresser on Sep 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
Why do people like Matthew choose to vote independent? It’s a wasted vote, and pretty much blows your given chance to voice your opinion. Even if you like the guy better, you don’t honestly think he’ll win do you?
And Mexicutioner, you’re wrong if you think McCain is the right choice for this country right now. I respect what he’s done in the past, but he dropped his whole maverick persona in favor of the typical BS Republican and conservative ideas. How he is still carrying the maverick label but not owning up to any of the maverick ideas is still beyond me.
by Noel on Sep 22, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
Is Obama and McCain reaaally telling us whats going on?…. hmmmmmm
If Americans could only understand what Freedom means, they’re going to want it.
I can’t wait until Ron Paul presents his plan in simple terms to the American people.
Follow the $ trail. Find out how and why Ron Paul is able to raise so much money and you will realize!!
Have a terrific recession maniacs! :)
by kama kaze on Sep 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
Ron Paul ran in the primaries, he lost, move on. It’s a two horse race, even if you don’t like either horse. If you are a Ron Paul supporter than your choice is easy: McCain/Palin they are closer to his views than Obama by far.
If you really are independent and not a hardcore democrat, then the choice is clear: McCain/Palin! Obama is as far left as you can get and McCain is about as close to the middle of the road as you can get, which is why the Republicans were not excited about him (until he chose Palin).
by mark on Sep 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know… ron paul is in congress he has some influence’s.
I am tired of the current government to the extent of revlotion is an option for me right now…
by newguythegunman on Sep 22, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
"A little rebellion now and then… is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government." – Thomas Jefferson
I don’t think he’s talking about anti-war protests.
by RealDrew on Sep 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we please stop whining about the ‘lies’ in McCain ads.
Obama voted for sex ed in Kindergarden. Sure it said ‘age appropriate’ but it also said it would teach abiotu stds and contraceptive. There is nothing age appropriate regarding stds for k-6th graders.
He voted alLowing babies who survived abortion to be placed in utility sheds until they die. First he said the bill challegend ro v wade, then they added wording to make sure it didnt, he voted no again. He continues to lie about about WHY he voted for these bills, but never denies it.
He hangs out with racist preachers (Wright), terrorists (Ayers and Dorhne) crooked lobbyists (Rezco) taken huge money from Fnnie Mae and Freddie Mac, even puts three former CEOs as his advisors. I know, facts stink. Vote McCain, at least he loves his counrty!
by mcg on Sep 22, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
Obama’s tax policy is socialist. You can try to deny it but his whole tax policy is to make everyone more equal in pay. He will make people that make over 250K less successful and people who make under that more successful. Everything is about equality these days, why should a small business owner pay more in taxes than a janitor. Hes worked hard to get his money, let him keep it. This country is all about entrepeneurs and small business owners. If Obama gets elected, all these business owners will just lay off more people and raise their prices. And I am not a McCain supporter either.
by Arlovski on Sep 22, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
It is truly socialist. Income redistribution.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 22, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know what they give you when you’re too old to work for McDonald’s? A McCain
by MrFyer on Sep 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
While we’re rambling about politics…
If you are a moderate republican (or even a real republican, you know, from before republicans rebranded themselves as exclusively the religious right), your best vote is Obama. Why? Because McCain, who used to symbolize what moderate republicans were all about, is now exactly what’s ruining the party.
Not all republicans are crazies who think the world is 6000 years old and evolution isn’t real. We don’t all care about guns and gays and crap like that. The moderate republicans want small government and fiscal responsibility. The party doesn’t provide that anymore. They’ve lost their way and pander to the far right to the exclusion of the long held beliefs that actually matter to a lot of people.
If Obama wins, the republican party may realize that they need to go to the middle and not the far right. They could return to their roots. I’m voting for Obama because not only is he closer to my moderate ideals than the new McCain, he’s a vote for a future moderate republican party.
by Ricker04 on Sep 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
You are absolutely wrong! You say you have moderate views and that Obama’s views are close to yours…Obama is as Liberal as they come – far left, far from moderate! You contradict yourself!
McCain is exactly what you described you want, a moderate republican! That is why those of us on the far right did not like him (before he chose Palin).
What the Republicans will realize if Obama wins is that a moderate republican can not win elections, and they will push back to the right conservative faction that has won them elections in the past.
call people who don’t believe in it “crazy” is just stupid.
by mark on Sep 23, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s a vote for a future moderate republican party.???
You do know he was rated as THE most liberal member of the senate right. I think you should look up the word MODERATE. Obama is toast as soon as he cant bring his teleprompter.
by mcg on Sep 22, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions
Go McCain!!! If you put McCain and Obama in the octagon, John would kill Obama.On a serious note though, give me a break…McCain has far more experience than Obama and even Palin has more executive experience than him. Don’t knock on being a governor because some of our recent Presidents have been governors like Clinto, Dubya, and Reagan. Experience is everything and Obama is all show and no go.
by Brandon A on Sep 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Man, I am reading through here but all the good points have been made, nice Brandon.
by theTRON on Sep 23, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Back to the Video and McCain’s comments on MMA and specifically the UFC. He said that there needs to be a “Union” for this Sport.
EVERY MMA Fighter should be happy to hear that. Football has a Player’s Union, so does, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, etc… He’s actually concerned about these MMA Athlete’s and their “short career span”.
Wow – I didn’t care for him before and still don’t, but I do agree with what he said. Now Dana White may not like the Union idea, but his Fighters will!!!
by The Professor on Sep 22, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
McCain was refering to BOXING having a union not mma. watch the video again. he was talking about boxing 1rst, then got switched to mma, then went back to boxing again on the sport needing a union. he admitted that he doesnt follow mma and has been a long time boxing fan, passing the ali reform act. for him yo say that he doesnt follow mma and admitting not really liking it, why would he say it needs a union? sorry mr. anti-dana, a union would not work in todays present mma structure, and would bring the sport to its knees, not help build it up.
by b.w. on Sep 22, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow 110 comments on who prefers which companies version of vanilla ice cream.
What a great democracy when you only have two parties to vote for haha..
by DirtyML on Sep 22, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
there are actually 4 candidates to vote for, but only 2 that count.
by b.w. on Sep 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I just left the political blogs to come to my beloved MMA site where we can all peacefully discuss the destruction of one human being over the other. I am a huge politcal junkie, but am going to stay out of this one. I must protect the one thing that ocassionally takes me away from that crap.
REAGAN 08!
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
by Jrandolph on Sep 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
“There is no insentive to be prosperous under Obama.”
Mexicutioner: i’m all about prospering and getting better value on my income but in the last 20 something years we’ve had 3 republicans take office and 1 dem. oddly and ironically enough i think a lot of people forget that our ecomonmy flourished under clinton’s administration and that between raegan, bush sr, and gw we’re over a trillion dollar deficit. i wasn’t pro-war but if we’re going to travel half way around the world to attempt to portray that we actually care about the mid-east’s well being, i sure as hell shouldn’t be paying $4.20 for a gallon of gas – regardless of what agenda gw’s cabin was on.
republicans seem to always seem to contest the tax issue. well guess what: i’m not in the highest tax bracket, and life’s really sucked for the last 8 years, financially, under gw’s reign. i mean let’s be completely honest. can you actually attempt to disagree that george bush is not a complete idiot? most importantly, what has he done for our country to make it better in any way since he’s taken office? we’re virtually hated by most of the world, gas prices have almost doubled in a single year, and it’s harder than ever to keep your job, nonetheless get a new one. I’m not sure about you, but those are the things that effect 99.9999% of the all the people in my life, including myself.
I’m not a die-hard democrat or a liberal. but i would really like to see something differnt in this country.
and “it’s time for a change” really sounds appealing to me.
by stop arguing and complaining, just fix it on Sep 23, 2008 8:55 AM EDT reply actions
Time for a change? How can you trust a guy who has only been in the US senate for one term? Obama still has yet to pass any legislation of worth. I don’t think that someone who has only been on capitol hill for less than 4yrs doesn’t deserve to be president.
by Brandon A on Sep 23, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions

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