Diaz dust up at UFC Fight Night 15 post-fight presser
by MMAmania.com on Sep 19, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
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"In what was a baffling and undoubtedly rare moment for the media, Nate Diaz was short of salacious quotes about his latest win and opponent Josh Neer. Diaz's time was limited in dropping four-letter bombs. Why? Because Nate had barely taken his seat in front of reporters at the post-fight press conference when his older brother Nick launched into a tirade that disrupted the interview and left the UFC staff with the unenviable task of keeping the Diaz clan from causing a scene. Good luck with that one. Nate abandoned the press conference as his brother shouted profanities at no one in particular, and together they took their rant into the hallway. Yes, the notorious potty-mouthed pair struck again. Maybe this was Nick's way paying his family back for their feud with the Noons' at EliteXC on Showtime in June. All about reciprocities in the Diaz household."
Several reports indicate that Nick and Nate Diaz were involved in some type of situation after UFC Fight Night 15: "Diaz vs. Neer;" however, it's unclear at this time what triggered the reaction. Nate apparently answered just one question at the post-fight press conference and then Nick "caused a scene" at which time the brothers up and left. Nick is an Octagon veteran who now fights under the Elite XC banner. Nate -- The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 5 winner -- is a fast-rising star in the UFC 155-pound division. We'll provide more context to this hopefully soon as more information becomes available.
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I like watching Nate fight, but I just can’t help but think the kid is a total dumbass. Too bad…
by BigRedOne on Sep 19, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions
Off topic but did anybody mention Evan Tanner during the broadcast?
by Robert on Sep 19, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Eric Schafer dedicated his fight to Tanner in his post-fight interview with Rogan, but I don’t recall the UFC (Rogan, Goldie, or Dana) officially recognizing Tanner during the show, which is strange because I thought I had read an article prior to the UFN stating that the entire night would be dedicated to Tanner, complete with a moment of silence while a video montage played on the big screen. But I don’t think that ever came to fruition. If it did then I missed it. I did read an article yesterday that said Spike is putting together a special tribute show for Tanner in the next month or two but we’ll just have to wait and see.
by just1fix on Sep 19, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
there was a short silent dedication at the beginning of the broadcast (at least where I live there was).
by sycboi on Sep 19, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, it aired on the broadcast. Still photo of Tanner with the words In Loving Memory of Evan Tanner, 1971-2008. Or something to that effect.
by pancakehead on Sep 19, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
LIsten up:
Today, on Satalite radio (not sure what channel), they will be interviewing KJ “Bitch made” Noons, so I am sure he will be forced to address the Diaz situation as well as Nate’s comments. I do not have Satalite Radio, so I would appreciate it if someone, or Mania could keep me posted about the Highlights of the interview.
Thanks
by john on Sep 19, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Total f*ck ups…I like ’em though, hehe!
by The Negation on Sep 19, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a big surprise. I like these guys a lot, but there is always some sort of drama where these guys go.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 19, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
Same here… At least Nate seems to be the more level headed one, hence walking away after one question. I am sure he knows he has a golden opportunity with the UFC and doesn’t want to cause problems with his bosses. I think some of you should lighten up on the kid. As far as Nick, who knows…
by BNF on Sep 19, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick has always been unhinged. I believe its gotton worse over time. There were high expectations of him in Elite XC and in other organizations but has underperformed and has been inconsistent. Great one moment mediocre another. Although I love how the Diaz brother’s fight, at the very least Nick needs a shrink to solve the demons in his head. All those fatties have been wacken that pimp daddy.
by dandeman on Sep 19, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yea very true. Doesnt Dana cuss every other word? So, what’s the big deal?
by c-war on Sep 19, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The Diaz bros always put on a show, in and out of the ring!
by Dr_D_Sanchez on Sep 19, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply actions
I am so sick and tired of the antics from the Diaz bros.
by open24hrz on Sep 19, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions
Me to!! These guys have absolutely no class. Even with a win they cause a scene.
by RiverHorror on Sep 19, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They are also shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, the UFC will put up with Nate now, but if he loses a few, they will not be so forgiving, and drop him.
by naturalshadow on Sep 19, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lol. those 2 should make a drama movie. nate and nick fight go to white castle to fight.
by the still operator on Sep 19, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions
Just a complete stab in the dark but maybe he was yelling at Karo who was in the crowd for fight night and could has possibly been lingering around duing the interviews. Could be some pay back for the dust up with Nate. My other theory is he is trying to stir public controversy to maybe get his foot in the door with the ufc by starting a fued with another fighter leaving the fans to wonder what would happen if they fought. Fairly intellegent for the dumbass because he it created enough stir and people would pay to see the hate fight then Dana might re consider his banishment of nick. Just spit ballin!
by shaze on Sep 19, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
did you notice Rogan making the comment about Karo loving the judo throws Nate did? I wonder if that dig on Karo maybe pissed him off enough to say something (it was a little backhanded compliment in my opinion).
by sycboi on Sep 19, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely love watching Nate fight—his transitions from move to move are fantastic.
That said, he truly is straight outta Compton, so the behavior doesn’t surprise me. If someone can’t help Nate realize that it’s a career limiting move, he’ll be joining Nick in the JV leagues.
by BobC on Sep 19, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
Diaz brothers rule. They are both very respectful of everyone they fight.
by Mike on Sep 19, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
Are you serious,go watch the deigo vs nick fight,even though deigo whipped him , at the end he was still saying he has no respect for deigo.All Nick does is talk shit,evrybody knows that ,that is the only reason i can’t stand him,he never respects the other guy .Now his brother Nate, is alot more respectful,talks shit ,but in the end he is respectful
by scott on Sep 19, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
by lee maury on Sep 19, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks for the link. Was Guida being sarcastic at the end of that clip when shrugged and said, “big surprise”? Meaning something along the lines of “that’s typical Diaz brother behavior for you”. That’s what I got from it which had me laughing my ass off but maybe I’m reading too much into it.
by just1fix on Sep 19, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
just1fix- I thought that was what Clay was saying too. I can’t help but laugh when I see the Diaz brothers. They always just have this pissed off look on their face.
by RyanHobbs on Sep 19, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
just1fix I think guida was being serious.
by lee maury on Sep 19, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its not like Guida’s brother is a big embarassment or anything.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 19, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha yeah no kidding. And Guidas brother signed with EliteXC too. Imagine that.
by RyanHobbs on Sep 19, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah well at least Guida’s brother is a self embarassing overweight douche. Nick has to make every appearance a spectacle. OOH OOH look at me I’m Nick Diaz, watch me keep it real.
by dandeman on Sep 19, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
True, it’s a shame Nick hasn’t missed weight too, then he would be a bigger douche than Guida’s bro…… oh……. wait….
Nick wins, if you consider being lowest a win. Maybe they could give a shot to womens MMA, weight is more a suggestion than a rule there.
by Jas on Sep 19, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I usually hate when people act out like that but I have gotten used to them and I find it entertaining. It is a poor representaion of the sport. I was pleased with Nates win and he showed all due respect to Josh Neer. I hope Nate stays in the UFC and stays out of trouble, I don’t see Nick coming back anytime soon unfortunately.
by billycarnage on Sep 19, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
It is a shame that these two have so much talent, yet so little class. I just don’t get the whole Stockton wig-wag show. You would think their gym would be trying to mentor them away from the gangsta mentality. Everyone must be so proud. This is a business – part fighting and part PR (interviews and press conferences). You would think someone would drive it home that this is not a liquor store parking lot.
by SaVaGe on Sep 19, 2008 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
lol as sad as it is, the gym is just as bad. go to team stockton myspace page, they got even the little kids flipping off the cameras. It’s Torres, he’s a joke!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 19, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I told you it’s on myspace and team stockton, what more do you need? want me to come over, point and click it for you and read any captions?
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 19, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I take that back I posted the post fight link not the link that kevin doesn’t know shit was talking about.
by lee maury on Sep 19, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
kevin doesn’t know shit- I looked it up. But yeah I would like for you to show me the little kids flipping off the camera though. Didn’t see that.
by RyanHobbs on Sep 19, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure UFC let him go cause he lost to all the big names. Sherk, Diego, Karo all beat him.
by AJ on Sep 19, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Aj right they let him go because he lost three times in a row. It is important to note though that he never got finished in any of those fights and he has been pretty succesfull after leaving the ufc.
by lee maury on Sep 19, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok I like Nick Diaz as much as anybody else but successful after leaving the UFC?
Beat GOMI – overruled because he was high.
Barely got through Mike Aina, a nobody that he got a split decision against.
Noons beat him, cut or no cut, KJ beat him.
Then what else, a scrub like thomas denny?
Seriously, Nick fans are too high up on his horse. Nick’s a good fighter at best, he has shitty gameplans and his weak punching in bunches strategy is failing him.
by BTay on Sep 19, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed…his best (valid) win was in 2001 2002 v Lytle…not much to note since then
by McArthur on Sep 19, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He was released from the ufc for losing multiple fights. Same reason Lawler was released
by yohnstoppable on Sep 19, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
the potty mouth needs to go. It doesnt do anything positive for the UFC or the sport.
by Salatious on Sep 19, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
Is the president of the UFC your talking about?
by Flyingknee on Sep 19, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
This has been my only reservation about Nate…. he has a mouth and likes to run it with no class. Let me tell you, those boys better watch themselves or Nick will be in Nate’s corner watching him wash cars. Dana will only tolerate so much and I would say he is almost to his limit.
by DJ on Sep 19, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
these guys need to grow up.
just like jesse taylor got bounced for his out of the cage antics, there’s more to it than just fighting. you’re representing the sport. ufc has been working for years trying to get everyone to recognize it for the multi-talented sport it is, they don’t need idiots bringing it back down to a juvenile level.
don’t be scared homey.
by fletcherthunder on Sep 19, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Um, the guy who runs his mouth and curses like a teenager, the most in the UFC, goes by the name of Dana White.
by introvert on Sep 19, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
those fools are funny as hell.. let go of your notions of how a fighter is ‘supposed to act’ and enjoy the entertainment stiffs…
by zack on Sep 19, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
Exactly. They’re fighters, not politicians running for election.
by introvert on Sep 19, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
spot on man but nick takes it a little far sometimes
by the heat on Sep 19, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick is a bad influence on Nate. Nate appears to be more level headed, except when big brother starts popping off.
by Jason on Sep 19, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions
i agree. someone needs to make a “how not to fck up your mma career like nick diaz” guide for little bro nate. i think nate will be a better fighter than nick ever was or will be as long as he doesnt follow the same path. pretty bad when the little brother is the more mature one.
by b.w. on Sep 19, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you might find that Nick is holding a grudge with someone, he wasnt allowed in certain areas of the stadium in Nates first big show and Nate stated that in his post fight interview, stating he wanted more respect shown for him and his brother. I think the ufc should be looking to get Nick back in the ufc, hes a very exciting and talented fighter, and lets not forget he lost very close fights to these guys at a very young age. He will have improved a hell of a lot since then!!
plus id love to see the Karo v Nick Diaz 2, wouldnt you?? I also truly believe he could be a really tough fight for GSP with his style of fighting and skill set??
by mo on Sep 19, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
No, that fight was because he wasn’t granted a cornerman license because he was suspending for marijuana.
Commission’s deal not the UFC’s that time. Not sure what the deal is this time…
by BTay on Sep 19, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
nick lost to joe riggs in the ufc= tough fight for gsp?
by b.w. on Sep 19, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Rumor has it, he won the rematch in the hospital hahahaha. Although there are rumors that Riggs won too
by RyanHobbs on Sep 19, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Why doesnt anybody talk about these guys being an embarrassment to MMA but love to say Kimbo is? These dudes are the reason MMA has a hard time getting taken seriously, people watching this with their kids had to hear Diaz saying “shit” “ass” “fuck” during a post fight interview? Why?
by Dolemite on Sep 19, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, the Diaz bros. are the #1 reason MMA isn’t teken seriously by some…because they are sooooo influential on everything this world has to offer ;)….lmfao.
But Dana, on the other hand…the President of the biggest MMA company in the world saying “shit” “ass” “fuck” every second word has no influence on any of it.
You’re funny.
by introvert on Sep 19, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana cusses every other word ,yes,but he does it in conversation,when have you seen Dana yelling at somebody like he wants to kick their ass ,in front of everybody,and cussing up a storm .It is all about the delivery that makes it annoying ,and some might think it is bad for the sport.That is the difference between Dana’s mouth and Nick’s.
by scott on Sep 19, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
every tuff show. not taking sides but you asked.
by sycboi on Sep 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Diaz brothers get in their and fight and state their opinions. Who cares how they behave? If they lose out on sponsors or purse money it’s for them to live with and they know it.
This ain’t golf, this ain’t tennis. And the fan base needs to get off their high horse with their Rich Franklin is such a great spokesperson blah blah blah. Everyone abandoned the guy when he got smashed .
Diaz’s know that you only are as good as your last fight and if you lose your out there and if you win you are out there in Danas world.
by Ny on Sep 19, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions
To be fair Riggs back then had a title shot but failed to make weight against Hughes?!
I just think Nick Diaz has some silky skills and would be a force,just my opinion. So if thats the case rampage has to go, as does melvin,hermes, sherk etc…… just because they are the way they are doesnt mean they shoul be banished from the sport!!!
by mo on Sep 19, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
nick is a gutsy fighter, but cant seem to win the big one. the sherk fight was pretty much a kick-boxing match and he lost to a guy who is pretty much a natural lw. he gave diego and karo tough fights, but thats like saying he’s the josh burkman of the ufc, someone who can hang with the top 10 guys, but never win, if zuffa brought nick back, i think he would be more suited for the wec right now in his career. carlos condit doesnt have alot of stiff competiton at ww and that would be a more intresting match-up to me than karo/nick 2. karo has too many problems right now. if nick could beat condit, then he could talk about going back to the ufc’s loaded ww division.
by b.w. on Sep 19, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I love to see Nate v BJ…it would be a good fight IMO and an even better dramafest
by McArthur on Sep 19, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
BJ would KTFO Nate…Nick would hang in there with him though.
Drama fest either way though. You’re right…it would be worth it.
by introvert on Sep 19, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
ya never know…BJ’s jab is lightning but Nate would have a reach advantage and can take a punch like Nick…BJ would have the advantage on the ground too but by how much??
by McArthur on Sep 19, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That fight would never even go to the ground. BJ’s standup is lightyears ahead of Nate’s. Let’s see Nate v. Joe Stevenson 1st. They recently have Neer and Batman in common, plus we already know what BJ did to Stevenson.
by SaVaGe on Sep 19, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I like diaz, but how can you possibly think he could make it a good fight with Penn? BJ would hospitalize him! His standup is far superior, and his jits is f’in NUTS. There’s nowhere that Diaz has even a small advantage. Sure his reach is longer, but he has NO, and I mean NO knockout power, and Penn has a granite chin.
by chefdaddy on Sep 20, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see how you can say it wouldn’t be a good fight, Chef. BJ’s standup is more technical with his boxing but to call it far superior is exaggerating. If anything, both their length and unorthodox nature of the Diaz Bros. boxing makes it highly effective. And when have you ever seen BJ be as aggressive with his BJJ as Nate has been doing? Penn may be more decorated and highly touted but I would love to see him use it more.
I know this sounds like I am Penn bashing. I think there is little doubt he would beat Nate handily. At the same time, you said it wouldn’t be a good fight. I think it would be very entertaining.
by PJJ on Sep 21, 2008 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions
didnt nick win his last fight in the ufc? he was the reason i got the gomi fight,. that turned me on to other orgs. now i spend way to much money on mma. thanks to the 45 dolla cost my bills are 250 dolla a month or higher
by the still operator on Sep 19, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
didnt nick win his last fight in the ufc? he was the reason i got the gomi fight,. that turned me on to other orgs. now i spend way to much money on mma. thanks to the 45 dolla cost my bills are 250 dolla a month or higher. d#mn mma its so good
by the still operator on Sep 19, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
yep he beat neer as well ,but he was on a 3 fight contract ,and went 1-2 losing the other 2 to joe riggs and sean sherk, dana hates him the most out of all the fighters ,in nates fight …3 fights back nick wasnt even allowed in the building,rumour has it dana was praying for manny gamburyan to beat nate so he didnt hafta have him around
by cyd cyanide on Sep 19, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick was allowed in the building. He was in the building. Due to his drug use, Nick was not allowed to corner his brother as part of the drug suspension. That was ruled by the NSAC and had nothing to do with Dana or the UFC.
by PJJ on Sep 21, 2008 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
its kinda fucked, cuz now nate will never ever have him[nick] in his corner again ,at ufc fight night [the one after nate won tuf]nick wasnt even allowed in the arena ,now u know why,i actually was wondering why kj noons wont fight him ,its cuz he knows its getting to diaz …and i think its hilarious that noons is givin title shots to others ,but is he ?NOpe!!!! and noons should be stripped,but it doesnt mean diaz is right ;hes a fuckin tool,,whos a 160-170 lb mouthpeice ,who may have fucked things up for nate ,also how smart was it for nate to mention elite xc and its title picture whether it was for nick or not ?,u dont advertise the competition in any way at all,also nick LOST to kj ,and others have won in the weight class ,so tell me again WHY diaz deserves a title shot?cuz he beat thomas denny????hahaha the brothers asshole is what they will be refered to from now on,,,im sure this caps any way for nick returning to the big show again[ufc]their parents must be proud ,one day im sure they’ll get fucked up ,have them mouth off to team blackhouse and see what happens …vitor,anderson,lyoto vs the diaz fags
by cyd cyanide on Sep 19, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
I was trying to tell some people on here that nick is a disrespectful punk and i was given shit about it. Now you see that nick needs to mature a little alot. nate seems more mature than his older brother.
by belfort_fan on Sep 19, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
how can anybody trash the diaz bros…they bring there best every fight,,,if dana was smart he wouold bring nick back…diaz bros back in ufc that would b the best day in ufc besides over-rated chucky gettin ktfo…the diaz boys are emotional street kids cut them sum slack they put on a great show and there tough as hell
by juggalomike on Sep 19, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
bring nick back and have them fight each other
by McArthur on Sep 19, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That would not be the best thing. Say they brought Nick back and he loses, and gets butt hurt and starts a bunch of crap on live PPV. that would be horrible. and there would be a gtreat chance of that happening.
by belfort_fan on Sep 19, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What was said? What did Nick actually say and whats the reason for it?
by What?? on Sep 19, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
I thought it was funny how Nate brought up KJ Noons in his interview. Plenty of viewers got to see Nate trash talk him so I thought that was pretty cool.
by RyanHobbs on Sep 19, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
I read all these comments and not a single one had any more information about the topic, just opinions.
How disappointing.
by DirtyML on Sep 19, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
Were you expecting a bunch of people with inside sources? Cuz I know there was at least one guy with a link to the interview with Nate.
by RyanHobbs on Sep 20, 2008 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
No surprise to me whatsoever. These two have no class and never will. Skilled fighters?? yes, but I don’t like either one of them.
by sooper822 on Sep 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
I watched the clip…
It looked to me as if Nate was actually acting responsibly by getting up & getting the hell out before the incident escalated into something more serious.
He was calmly answering questions, when he became aware of the fracus in the scrum, he gets up, says that’s it, and leaves.
I don’t see how this is on Nate in any way other than his relationship with Nick.
The famous quotation “I AM NOT MY BROTHERS KEEPER” does NOT apply.
Clearly Nate IS his brother Nick’s keeper!
by talkman on Sep 20, 2008 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
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