Counter programming alert: UFC 86 to air at same time as Elite XC: 'Heat'
by James Iannotti on Sep 18, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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If you watched UFC Fight Night 15 or "The Ultimate Fighter" (TUF) 8 on Spike TV last night then there's a good chance you saw the commercials showing that UFC 86: "Jackson vs. Griffin" will be replayed for free on October 4 on Spike TV beginning at 9 p.m. ET.
That "coincidentally" happens to be the same date and time that Elite XC will air perhaps the most important event in its history, Elite XC: "Heat" on CBS.
Of course, this isn't the first time that Dana White and the UFC have attempted to sabotage the competition with counter programming.
In fact, it was only two months ago when Affliction MMA was set for its first live pay-per-view (PPV) event. The t-shirt company turned MMA promotion had big plans to make a splash in the MMA world only to to have the UFC plan a free "Fight Night" on Spike TV the same night.
To make matters worse (for Affliction) the UFC headlined the card with one of the most popular fighters on the planet, Anderson Silva.
Apparently the plan worked because Affliction's PPV buys did not reach expectations and the UFC's free "Fight Night" pulled in better numbers.
While this isn't a live event being put on by the UFC, it's still counter programming and there will still be fans who opt to tune in to the replay of a card headlined by one of the better fights of the year between Rampage Jackson and Forrest Griffin instead of eyeballing another potential disaster main event involving Kimbo Slice.
It's clear the UFC wants to clear the world of any and all competition. And if there's an organization out there capable of pulling that off, it's definitely the good ole' Zuffa boys.
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if they want to counter this then they should just sign Kimbo and start a Femal divison in the UFC. problem solved.
by Salatious on Sep 18, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see a female division in the UFC but Im gonna watch Elite XC that night.
by c-war on Sep 18, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the current moment, I do not believe that there are enough well rounded female fighers so that they can compete in multiple premier organizations. For now, EliteXC is the home of premier female mma
by ViolentMike on Sep 18, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even though they don’t have Tara De La Rosa who signed some ridiculous contract that not even Elite would have been willing to offer…
by ViolentMike on Sep 18, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of EliteXC, SHOWTIME is negotiating a purchase of ProElite as we speak
by john on Sep 18, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
scroll down john, beat you by 40 minutes!! good find though! prepare for the “you two should start your own site” comments john!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will take the LIVE fights. Hell I am on the laptop and can watch Forest vs. Rampage right now if I want. I hope Kimbo goes to sleep.
by iagoof22 on Sep 18, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this childish sh*t dana’s pulling is getting old. say what u will about “oh this is just an outstanding business move by dana cause he’s a businessman”. whatever, he’s a f*cking child
by deuce 4 on Sep 18, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it IS smart business. Whatever you might do for a living, if you had the ability to squash your competition before they even got out of the gates, wouldn’t you? You’d corner your market and make more money. That, to me is solid business.
by chefdaddy on Sep 18, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone would do the same for their business if they could, so I think we are a little to critical of Dana
by john on Sep 18, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol this is why stinky is rich and you work a desk job man. I’ll tell you what when that dude in the cubicle accross from you is working for that same management job you want, I suppose you should let him take the harder projects and reep the benifits. Everybody’s got a Jimini cricket on their shoulder until its money being taken out of your pocket and food taken out of your mouth.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 18, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting old??? Who cares no one’s forcing you to watch it change the channel menso
by MikeD on Sep 18, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Childish? That he is an amazing business man for the UFC and is trying to destroy any competition he might have? Yeah what is he thinking… i’d hate to have someone like that lead my company… He might as well aired Elite XC promotional videos during the last fight night too
by Kory on Sep 18, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
e can run his mouth for sure though lol…i mean UFC is the pioneer and front of MMA in the U.S. if it wasn’t for Dana’s childish antics then none of these other competitors owners wouldn’t have given the time of taking a crap to think about promoting the sport!. UFC earns its place by millions in something that no one cared about when everyone hated it. Orgs like Elite and affliction and IFL would have lasted one month back then. Dana is is a fool sometimes yes but when it comes to MMA and business mixed together there is no one out more passionate and dedicated…dana is involved in every bit of the operations and PR of the UFC…tell me deuce, do you think affliction,HDnet,EliteXC would give the time and money to promote MMA events at beneath cost for the military personnel. why doesn’t affliction cut sylvia’s pay by 1/10 and send it to a charity? you know why? those guys are truly concerned about profit 100% at the cost of MMA’s face and progress. Dana does do thing that makes MMA look bad…but what he does are all minor setbacks that can be fixed and the UFC has true MMA fans that stick by for the love of the sport and look past Dana White as a whole!
by santiago69us on Sep 18, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IFL has been around a long time santiago, true, they are struglling now, but they were one of the top dogs back then
by brendan on Sep 18, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
theybe been around 6 months to year longer than elite XC…that really not very impressive and they had a really bad TV deal that dropped them! Just because you bleed longer before you die doesnt necessarily mean you doinf “OK”. they were not top dogs at all. their shows got progressively worse. i didnt mind watching it at all. i enjoyed it but you could see the difference in production every show! they looked to be UFC’s main competition at the time! BUT…only by default! now if you want to talk about success at a descent level is strikeforce! now they noe how to run their org with out over hype…they were fine with out elite xc!
by santiago69us on Sep 19, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
deuce 4 – Obviously, you don’t run a business.
by MMACrossfire on Sep 18, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing better for MMA than several promotions to help give fighters opportunities……..Guess Dana doesnt believe that…………
Sure he’s got a business to run but he shouldn’t fool himself……Dana always says he does it for the SPORT…Its all about MMA…….I think Lex Luther got confused…….He meant UFC
by Venzia on Sep 18, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana’s job FIRST AND FOREMOST is to promote the UFC brand. and he does it d@mn well. But you can’t say he doesn’t do things for MMA. That is a tired arguement with no merit, and I’ve posted to it too many times. Granted he does things to profit his business, but it also benefits the sport as a whole.
by chefdaddy on Sep 18, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS
showtime to buy pro elite!!!
source :sherdog
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here’s another one for you mania
http://tatame.com/2008/09/18/Demian-Maia-vs.-Nate-Quarry-at-UFC-91
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am scared that if they show this and Rampage sees it, he may snap and go on a “Rampage” again. Just worried about my fellow man.
by Brian "Bisping-Hater" on Sep 18, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DVR UFC 86, watch Elite; I’m not giving up a chance to see Gina. Or I could DVR Elite so I can watch Gina over and over again!
by Jason on Sep 18, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would NEVER waste my time by re-watching UFC 86. That is an event I will NEVER watch again!
by john on Sep 18, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True Story… Worst night of my summer.
by PhilQNY on Sep 18, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PhilQNy: I got some good news for you buddy. I know you are a fan of Damien Maia and all theadvanced jits fighters in mma, so UFC 91 looks like it just got a little more interesting for you. Demian Maia will fight against Nate Quarry!
by john on Sep 18, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol wow john, we’re on today, I sent mania the link to this story an hour ago too. great job today buddy. hey john, you get that picture I sent you?
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit..I’m trying to get images of 86 out of my mind.
by PhilQNY on Sep 18, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess 07 wasnt the only year for upsets….08 is the year of controversy!!!
Should Forrest have one the decision? Is Chuck getting old? Why does Brock get a title shot? James Irvin on pain killers in A. Silva fight…ect. ect.
by Chadx23 on Sep 19, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, get a GF, they actually do you live..over and over!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“UFC headlined the card with one of the most popular fighters on the planet, Anderson Silva.”
Best fighter, yes. Most popular, unfortunately, no.
by RealDrew on Sep 18, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone who watches a replay over a live show is a total noob and is hanging on UFC’s nutsaack, broaden your horizons
by brendan on Sep 18, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
some people who dont want to shell out the $45 like my uncle….will tune in to watch the UFC event and probably tune in for the Kimbo fight also…that or DVR one event you havent seen and watch the live one
by Chadx23 on Sep 19, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just watched TUF… damn DVR cut out the last fight due to fight night running over. At least the right guy won. looks like it could be a strong season…anything is better than last season.
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Man I love DVR, I got through a great night of fights in 40 minutes. Overall, I’m pleased. Nate Diaz isn’t going anywhere, his jits is unreal, his stand up is improving.
How bout Belchers tree trunk legs…damn!
Houston "I got an excuse for every loss" Alexander should have finished that fight, and IMO proved he sucks.
I’m going to open myself up to getting flamed tomorrow, stay tuned. Since I keep it eal, I got a confession for you guys.
got to get to bed, peace out guys!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, my curiousity is peaked about the confession!
by chefdaddy on Sep 18, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait…. What if Stinky Fingers is Kevin?!?!?!?!?!?!? And the plot thickens.
by psyqo78®™ on Sep 18, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, nope, but I’m stinkies biggest fan.
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if stinky’s biggest fan is biggest fan’s stinky?
by James S on Sep 18, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol what if stinky’s biggest fan and kevin’s biggest fan are the same person??
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if kevins fingers are stinky as well
by todd on Sep 18, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe, but your mom and sister actually smelled pretty nice!!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hence my stinky fingers do the typing??? well thought out!!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
86 was an awful event. Who would want to watch that garbage over LIVE Daley vs. Shields?
by Bill Maher on Sep 18, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well its the truth. Every UFC event hasn’t been that good since UFC 84 (which was great)
by Bill Maher on Sep 18, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was 87, i would DVR Elite. I’ve seen Maia’s fight like thirty times. Some sick ground battle. Hopefully he’ll tap Quarry too at 91.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 18, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Quarry does meet Maia, ouch…
Nate better work on his take down defense 24/7.
Maia gets Nate on the ground its pretty much over.
by OJR on Sep 18, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont understand Dana somtimes. he said he didnt wnat to anything to do with Kimbo because he said a wealterweight could kick his ass. but he is willing to sign Alexander Houston to a 5 contract fight after 2 losses? if its all about money then Kimbo should be contracted. he might not be a good fighter but he does put money in your pocket.
and seriously, Femal MMA is awesome. Its time for the UFC to set up a new divison and start it out with a reality show.
by Salatious on Sep 18, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He extended the contract to get him at a cheap price. If he won last night he would have possibly got back on his horse and did something with it. After his performance last night he is gone and is going to have to work his way back…..garunteed. P.s. Houston would jack Kimbo up.
by psyqo78®™ on Sep 18, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo would kill Houston Alexander and I am not a Kimbo fan.
by Bill Maher on Sep 18, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were also planning on countering affliction second show oct. 11 with ufc 87 but now that is history since affliction had to cancel their show because they are struggling and in my opinion going to be under very soon
by matt on Sep 18, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor become champion of Rings, Rings goes under.
Fedor become champion of Pride, Pride goes under.
Fedor become champion of Affliction………..
by DirtyML on Sep 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, did you watch the new HL reel of Fedor? pretty good!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 18, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By VERY SOON, did you mean BEFORE or AFTER they signed a MASSIVE deal with GOLDEN BOY INC?
by Joseph on Sep 18, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll repeat the sentiment that I’d rather watch UFC 87 or 85 again, but 86? No thanks, I’m watching EliteXC, controversy and all.
by Space on Sep 18, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m totally disappointed in Affliction cancelling! They would be a great promotion with a little tweaking! Big John would eventually settle down behind the mike and be a great commentator! I wish Dana only had 86 to counter “Banned”! I think “Banned” would have sold better. As i’ve said before, there’s plenty of room(or time) to have 2 superpower promotions in MMA! That way, we don’t have to wait so long to see great fights. There’s a bunch of football, basketball, baseball,etc………..games on every other day! I’d love to be able to watch MMA at least once a week! I mean, top fighters fighting!
by Dana's a crossdresser on Sep 18, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
atleast everyone will get too see Rampage actually won that fight.
And maybe we can get some high tech nerd too explain why 2 judges didnt give Rampage round 1 , even tho it was a 10-8 round .. retarded.
by dayzah on Sep 18, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is probably good Afflication was cancelled because now Fedor will be on the Card. I read somewhere Afflication is cutting a deal with HBO. I even read sometime in the Future they may have a card with Boxing and MMA on it. Dana is a prick though. It was pretty bad how Zuffa bought Pride and then shut it down. Pride had a lot of very good fights.
by Sanchez Monroe on Sep 18, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez good comment, Pride was the best out there, if it was still there today and HDNET was televising it I’m sure it would give Dana a run for his money, but if if if. We could be here all today. Reality is that Dana holds all the aces, he has a household name, mention mma you get you mean UFC in response. He is protecting his brand and why not. I just find it hard to see anyone else making a dent on the UFC. Dana has a good counter ;) Interesting note though, I believe if anyone will do will be Affliction. Even though they only had once card, they showed they could put a decent show with some great fights. They are making a great move signing with HBO. Its the only way I see anyone taking on the UFC and thats by amalgamating. Whether its boxing or even WWE, mma audience is saturated, there is no one hanging around t he outside waiting to see which organisation that they will watch, all mma is watching the UFC. I think Affliction have the best team of management and are organsied ebough to take on the UFC and also have more respect from the fighters. Interesting to see what 2009 holds for mma. If Affliction don’t be successful I don’t think anyone else will, and UFC will dominate mma.
by Roy on Sep 18, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. DVR EliteXC and watch UFC 86. I would rather watch UFC (insert random number) than another EliteXC event live ever. Come on guys – tell me you all aren’t going to DVR both so you can blow through the BS. You all really want to watch pyrotechnics and dancing girls? I know I don’t.
Let me just fill this part in for everyone: I am an EliteXC hater, I don’t believe the Kimbo hype at all, I am a Dana White lover, I love the UFC and everything they do. Think that sums my biases up well.
Come on guys this is the same conversation over and over with EliteXC and the UFC. UFC is the major leagues hands down. EliteXC is a minor league MMA-WWE hybrid at best. I’ll watch the fights, but not in real time.
by theTRON on Sep 18, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha…you are a moron.
Who in the hell would watch live a PPV card they already saw instead of LIVE fights that feature Shields (#2 or #3) WW in the world, Daley, Ninja, Radach, Carano, and Cyborg. You are out of your mind. Have fun watching fights you already know the outcome to.
P.S.
EliteXC DOESNT HAVE the fireworks and dancing girls anymore.
Shows how much of an “MMA” fan you are, fan boy.
by Joseph on Sep 18, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im looking forward to this event.
Daley vs. Sheilds could be the welterweight fight of the year. Even better than GSP/Fitch. Key words: Could be!
by john on Sep 18, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
theTRON is officially a UFC nuthugger who has little knowledge of MMA
by brendan on Sep 18, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude I am a self proclaimed UFC fan boy. Your slam really hurt my feelings…come on are you serious? I said I was an EliteXC hater – and I am.
I will watch EliteXC from my DVR. Not going to put myself through their torturous commentary. Carano? Come on man how much of a “MMA” fan are you – when was the last time she made weight? I don’t dig the Kimbo show. I am a fan of MMA. I watched the first event and it was garbage. Sorry if you aren’t big on my point of view. Wish we could be friends…
by theTRON on Sep 18, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how you focus on two negatives and not focus on all the positives. If you don’t have the need to watch Shields vs Daley and Ninja vs Radach LIVE and for free, I feel bad for you.
by Joseph on Sep 19, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not watching UFC 86 cuz I already saw it……BTW Jackson won the fight those who dont agree I feel sorry for you cuz Forrest isnt gonna were the belt in his next title defense!
by VLARA on Sep 18, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
obviously your judging abilities and your grammar abilities go hand and hand.
by newkoba on Sep 18, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to correct you there but its hand IN hand!
by Ca$z on Sep 19, 2008 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it wasn’t already said, UFC 86 wasn’t entertaining to watch and the rampage vs. forrest fight was definately not “one of the better fights of the year”. I rewound the fight and they fought the whole fight essentially out of the pocket of one another. They are a good four feet apart for 85% of the entire 25 mintues. This is not a good fight, if they wanted to give Forrest the title for huffing and throwing punches and legs kicks to THIN air and only connecting on 1 out of 20 then so be it…
by derreck on Sep 18, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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