Georges St. Pierre video interview on MMA training in Brazil, nipple tweaks and much more
by MMAmania.com on Sep 16, 2008 9:23 AM EDT
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When BJ gets his undeserved Title shot GSP will crush him.
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know about that. I’d give the edge to GSP but it’s close enough. 60-40 in my mind at the moment.
by RobH86 on Sep 16, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
r we going to start this debate again? Lets agree to wait until the fight is booked to start going crazy debating it
by john on Sep 16, 2008 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go piggy back somwhere else, don’t want to debate it, then don’t. You’ve never given insight on the Fedor/Couture fight?
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ Penn will win, watch GSP vs Fitch again, Joe Rogan even says during the fight “No one in mma has take down defense like George St. Pierre… well that is no one except BJ Penn!” And last time they fought BJ tooled him in the stand up department, and he wasn’t even in shape. WATCH! Fight of the year in the making, but I think BJ will take it this time or force GSP to lay n prey to a decision and displease the crowd.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 16, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybee u forgot the eye poke? BJ got beat by a one eyed GSP. BJ has also lost to guy’s that GSP destroyed.
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blow J: get of my nuts dude! I know its hard cause you are a member of my fan club, but I am in no mood to deal with your crap today. Please bother someone else.
by john on Sep 16, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You jumped in on his conversation John, maybe you should get off of his nuts.
by thomas on Sep 16, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are you talking about Ro-J Hughes?please come up with something better than that BJ destroyed him too in there first fight and was beating him worse than anybody the first two rounds of there 2nd.
by thomas on Sep 16, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its just laughable that every single time BJ or GSP is brought up, its sparks a thread long discussion about BJ vs. GSP. this fight is months away from being booked let alone happening, and its already been debated endlessly. Dont you guys get tired of debating the same exact thing? What are you guys going to actually talk about the weeks leading up to the fight? Hey, To each his own….enjoy your debate.
If anyone actually wants to talk about his training in Brazil, HOller at me!
by john on Sep 16, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who do you think you are? just wondering ?
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Traing BJJ is great!!! he goes there all the time, and he has great working relationships with everyone.Its no doupt why he gets so much out of his training camps.
you happy john, but more interesting is the gameplan he will use against BJ?
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, are you incharge of blogging? If it bothers you that people are talking about BJ and GSP then just skip over it! You are annoying. Why dont you go and organize a good old fashioned book burning since you like to sensor so much.
by Kirk on Sep 16, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys guys, no use in getting on each other’s nuts. We all know that we at least have a say in anyone’s opinions because we’re entitled to one…So pipe down fellas…
by The Negation on Sep 16, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Seriously – how can BJ deal with GSPs ground and pound? If GSP gets on top it’s going to get ugly.
by Emmerson on Sep 16, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’ve seen their 1st fight, then you can see how BJ dealt with GSP’s GNP…
by The Negation on Sep 16, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you!
But that was then and this is now. GSP is a smarter more hardened fighter now.
And by the way they are they are my 2 favorite fighters and I think BJ is the best pound-for-pound in the world.
by Emmerson on Sep 16, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he ha to best pound for pound in the language department, he takes andersons head off in that department!!
by mo on Sep 16, 2008 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ha! i was thinking what was that? it sure didnt look healthy.
by b.w. on Sep 16, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was fighting ST Pierre, I would try to tick him off as much as possible! I would belittle him, big time! Not because I’m a jerk. But, because I think it’s still pretty easy to get inside his head. Which appears to be his only weakness. If you get inside his head and can weather his fury for the first round, he will get extremely frustrated! Then he would totally abandon his game plan! With that said, I’m glad I’m not fighting him, or BJ!
by Dana's a crossdresser on Sep 16, 2008 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about that man. He’s had people try that before (Second Serra fight, Hughes) and it didn’t really work out for them. Since he started training with Jackson, his game plans have been stellar, and he always sees them through. If I were to fight him, I would try to be the aggressor. Serra had the right idea, just not the skill. BJ is his biggest threat because he’s the only LW/WW who doesn’t seem scared to trade with GSP, and he’s obviously got the striking ability to compete with him. Should be a good one!
by Caper on Sep 16, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ’s striking ability really isnt that good…
by brendan on Sep 16, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, did you watch Penn-Sherk? BJ isn’t a beast so you don’t think of his striking being that good, but look at some of his previous fights—when he wants to strike, he does it well.
by BobC on Sep 16, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherk gets pelted constantly, he’s got the head movement of a moose stuck in the trees.
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BobC & Caper: Yeah, he’s a got a nasty nasty jab that consistently gives opponents problems. Just ask GSP’s face after the first round of their first fight. That being said, I think GSP will win by repeated take-downs and Ground&Pound like he did to win the first one. He won’t make the mistake again of trying to stand with Penn I don’t believe.
by RedDog on Sep 16, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re right but I also think you forgot one important think. BJ is one of the sickest ground fighters in MMA. Not only is he impossible to take daown (unless he’s really gassed) but he’s impossible to ground and pound (unless he’s really gassed). If he’s in good shape which he will no doubt be. I don’t see a facet that gives either one of them an advantage! Which is why it makes for such stimulating conversation JOHN!
by haglnuts on Sep 16, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeahh man, BJ does have sick stand up.. So does Georges. They are probably number 2 and number 3 pound for pound best in my opinion, and that is why this fight is gonna be so huge. The only clear advantage is that the fight will take place at St. Pierre’s natural weight class, and BJ will have to bulk up. We all know how well that has worked out for him..
by Caper on Sep 16, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top notch indeed. his leather face doesn’t cut and his chin is made of steel…That said, GSP will win the 2nd one due to the UFC’s scoring. He’ss take BJ down[no matter how good Bj is on keepin’ the fight standing]but I don’t think he could GNP BJ.He[BJ] is an escape artist. He spends virtually no time lying down on the ground…
by The Negation on Sep 16, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a terrible game plan. GSP has destroyed anyone who bad mouthed him. The 2 times that there were no bad words (Hughes 1 and Serra 1), GSP LOST. You probably could get in his head pretty easy by disrespecting him. So now GSP eats, sleeps, TRAINS and shits, RIPPING YOUR HEAD OFF in the cage. How is that a good idea? Getting inside someones head is only a good thing if they fight with blind rage and it throws them off their game. Just look where calling him FRENCHY got Hughes and Serra, one hell of a beating.
by Gord on Sep 17, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ro-j, bj’s only losses are machida, st pierre, hughes (1 win 1 loss, and he broke a rib in that loss)and pukver early i his career. who has dominated him that hasn’t dominated st. pierre??? each has lost to hughes. Bj was also a different fighter back then, both have immensly improved.
also, if an in his prime Randy constantly stated “no one is harder to take down then penn” what makes you think he’s a push over for st. pierre???
penn gets up at will, not saying he’s going to win, but your a fool if you count either fighter out here.
by Jerry on Sep 16, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ is one of my favs, but he is going down HARD! He doesn’t even desevers to be in there with him yet. let alone be ready. I am telling you GSP is going to punish him.
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since ’06 Penn has beaten: Sherk, Stevenson, Pulver (lost to Hughes and GSP. Since ’06 GSP has beaten: Fitch, Serra, Hughes*2, Koscheck, BJ (lost to Serra)
BJ beat Serra by decision in ‘02. GSP lost to Serra, but then redeemed himself in violent brutal fashion.They’re pretty even when it comes to Hughes. Although GSP redeemed his loss twice, while BJ has not fought him again.
There are a few more comparisons, but those are the big ones.
The toughest man BJ has fought and beat lately is Stevenson. Sherk can barely eek past Hermes, and Pulver doesn’t matter.
GSP is fighting and beating the best veterans and some of the toughest up-and-comers in the WW division. I see him dominate the opponent a little bit more each time he fights.
He will ground and pound BJ some time within the first 3 rounds. You will be surprised at how easily he takes BJ down, but I won’t.
Show me GSP vs Alves. Thats a scary up-and-comer.
by DH on Sep 16, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I was thinking, said perfectly.
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DH, I agree with just about everything you said except the part about Stevenson being a tougher opponent than Sherk. They were pretty much equally destoyed by Penn with Sherk lasting longer. Also Sherk has only lost to the BIG 3: Hughes, Penn, GSP. I agree that GSP v Alves would be an amazing fight! Hope it’s looming in the near future.
by RedDog on Sep 16, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DH- Amen brother! BJ is a stud, but GSP is crazy! I think GSP’s striking has came a long way since the first fight. This fight isn’t at BJ’s natural weight. Oh, and GSP will take him down pretty much at will. GSP constantly beats people at their own games. I would love to see him snap one of BJ’s limbs, or tap him out!
by LJ on Sep 16, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you will be surprised when Penn handles every Pierre throws at him, but I wont.
by The Anomaly on Sep 16, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe BJ has more avenues to victory than GSP.
GSP’s most likely shot at winning is grinding out a decision with a lot of takedowns and very careful exchanges on his feet. Oddswise, that probably the most likely outcome of the fight (though it is not my prediction). I don’t think GSP can submit or KO Penn. Just don’t see that happening.
BJ, on the other hand, can submit GSP. My prediction for that fight is a back and forth bout that ends in the 3rd with BJ subbing GSP from his guard with a gogoplata.
However (and this is a recent development in my imagination), I’m starting to get the notion that BJ is going to win by brutally KO’ing GSP. It’s admittedly a much less likely outcome, but I think there’s a chance that BJ can just utterly destroy GSP, leaving him crumpled on the canvas and questioning whether he wants to return to the sport.
by Revjames13 on Sep 16, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ha ha…thats funny, let me guess you thought the same thing going into the first fight they had, but in the end we all know who won, evertime I hear someone say that BJ is the best and should fight GSP right away I just think back to his last couple of fights at 170lbs, I dont think it went too well, I just keep picturing Hughes pinning him down and pounding his face until the Ref pulled Hughes off of him in the middle of the 3rd round…..impressive he diserves to fight GSP right away…lol
by jet99 on Sep 16, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ can submit GSP? BJ has 4 subs his entire career, UFC and elsewhere. All of them were RNC, so unless you believe that BJ is going to choke GSP you should just forget about a sub. BJ Penn fans are the most uninformed fans I’ve ever met.
by jay on Sep 16, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ can sub GSP, especially if he hurts him on the feet first. The fact that he used the same move to do it makes it MORE impressive, not less. That just speaks of BJ’s fundamentals and transition game. Just like Fedor’s armbar, Cro Cop’s LHK (in his prime), and Chuck’s overhand (in his prime), BJ’s RNC is a money move. Their opponents have scouted these moves, so if they still pull it off, it shows how good they are.
by Pat on Sep 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If BJ had 15 or even 5 of them I would say that he is impressive at being one dimensional. But when people claim that he can submit someone bigger, faster, and more agile than him I laugh. He is suppose to be the prodigy at BJJ and yet he hasn’t used it effectively ever in his career. If you seen the first fight you would see what his jits game can do to a big wrestler who can take him down at will and keep him there, once it got to the ground there wasn’t a whole lot of submission attempts let alone close calls for GSP. The fight is going to be a one-sided wrestling clinic, just because GSP is too big and too fast.
by jay on Sep 16, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s real funny. “BJ CAN submit GSP”. That is HARDLY a given like you seem to think. Lets look at some facts. The LAST 3 BJJ BLACK BELTS GSP fought (INCLUDING BJ) DIDN’T even come close to submitting him. BJ hasn’t hit a gogoplata in ANY of his fights, what makes you think his first will be against a beast like GSP. GSP has to watch out for BJ’s ONLY submission, “choke”. BJ has hit 5 chokes, that’s it. If there is a given in this fight, it is BJ CAN’T last 5 rounds at GSP’s relentless pace. It’s not going to a decision, NO WAY. I don’t care how much he has improved his cardio, he can’t match strength with GSP and his tank WILL drain FAST trying. Lastly GSP will have a BRILLIANT game plan. I think BJ’s only hope is to KO him standing, but I don’t see that happening. BJ might have a few advantages over Fitch,but likely Fitch has the more important advantages (size, strength and wrestling) over him, when it comes to dealing with GSP and we seen where that got Fitch. GSP is MUCH more ruthless now, then he was back then when he fought Penn. BJ is finally going to see his own blood.
by Gord on Sep 17, 2008 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to start a fight Dog, but Sherk is a punching and/or knee bag. Thats what he can do, take punches. Unfortunately he can’t give them back.
Respect to everyone’s opinions, but you have to try to back them up in some way if you are trying to prove a point. I don’t think you should base a prediction on your imagination.
My main hope is that this is a fight of the year type fight. I hope they trade, but like I said, GSP with G&P before the 3rd ends. Did anyones else’s stomach hurt when Georges was dropping those violent knees on Serra? To me, it looked like Serra had never before fought in his life, and he has in fact fought some tough tough dudes. Out
by DH on Sep 16, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You might need to read one more time what I was responding to: WHO IS THE TOUGHER OPPONENT? not WHO WOULD WIN IF SHERK FOUGHT STEVENSON? Saying who I believed is the tougher opponent wasn’t a prediction…it’s who I believed was the tougher opponent.
No disrespect but read more carefully in the future before going on about what people “have to try to” do. Ya know?
by RedDog on Sep 16, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That “predictions” part of my comment was directed at Revjames13’s post (I’m not instigating Revjames13, I just read that big post of yours). Read it and it may make more sense. I just read mine and and it does come off like its directed at you, but only the very first bit. The Sherk thing: I was never implying that Stevenson would beat Sherk. Just that Sherk, in my opinion, is not a dangerous fighter against the great fighters. GSP and BJ for example. He is more of a professional sparring partner. I guess Joe would not be a dangerous opponent either. Joe and Sherk=Not great practice for BJ. And you sound a bit ticked at the end there. Even if we disagree, we don’t have to get like that. What that last ? thing about. Trying to stick it to me or something. Sorry about the confusion. Do they still sell that Red Dog beer, it was the coolest when I was a kid. “Matt UGHES, I’m not impressed with your performance”. He wouldn’t be half as popular if he was a normal Canadian. Franco phones are just comical like that.
by DH on Sep 16, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DH: No I wasn’t ticked, I felt like you were directing the whole comment at me and I wanted to clarify what my point was. Just a misunderstanding. Now that you’ve clarified, ignore most of my rebuttal post above! haha I know it’s tough read the mood of the person that’s writing. Now that that is out of the way, you’re the first person to comment on remembering Red Dog beer! Yeah, it was the coolest when I was a kid too…never had it though. Any good?
by RedDog on Sep 16, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When we were kids, we didn’t have a damn clue what good beer was. How can you even know when its piss warm, and you’re drinking it in the middle of a park? I think it was cool because they put a bull dog face on the underside of the cap. Wicked.
by DH on Sep 16, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherk is tougher than Stevenson.
Sherk is like 35-3. His only three losses are to some very talented fighters, you may have heard of them:
Matt Hughes
BJ Penn
Georges St. Pierre
I don’t even LIKE Sherk but I do respect his skills
by Brandon on Sep 16, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here Branden, I hate the guy but I know what he would do to Stevenson and it wouldn’t be pretty or lengthy.
by jay on Sep 16, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m also basing my thoughts on having seen almost every mma fight GSP and BJ Penn have had multiple times, and certainly all of their UFC fights. When these two fight it’s not going to be about the past, it’s going to be about now. And I’m telling you that for most mma fans, BJ is by far the least understood of the two. Everyone knows GSP is super athletic and has fought and beaten great competition. BJ has had a more erratic career to date. He’s been quasi-out of shape, fought in crazy weight classes, been less than focused at times.
What most people fail to appreciate, is that not only does BJ have more talent than GSP, but (right now) he’s more of a warrior than him as well. I know that’s going to get a lot of undies in a bunch, because looking back on their results you can find a lot of reasons to dispute that. But we have seen BJ fight most of his career at a less than optimal level of fitness and focus. In the past, BJ has been an amazing fighter who got mixed results because he didn’t get the first rule of being a warrior: A warrior always comes to a fight totally prepared, as if it is his last fight on earth. When he comes with that level of preparation then he can abandon himself totally to the fight and be willing to die in there. BJ always got the second part right but rarely the first. Now that he has the total game, there is no use comparing previous match-ups.
That said, their last fight was a razor close split decision. Does anyone really believe that BJ is not a huge threat to GSP at this point? GSP has also improved since their last fight (his wrestling and perhaps his jits is better), but his improvement has been less of a quantum leap than the one Penn has made. Of course, what I am saying can only be proved by Penn fighting GSP. I am in agreement that Pulver, Stevenson and Sherk have not been significant tests for him, however he also destroyed all of them, and made Stevenson in particular (a very solid fighter in his own right) look like a helpless schoolboy.
BJ will be more focused and fight ready than he has been in his entire career. Does he give you any indication of having even the slightest doubt that he can beat GSP? GSP, on the other hand, seems more tentative about facing Penn than anyone else in his career.
Mark my words, BJ has what it takes to not just beat GSP, but to beat him in dominant fashion. GSP is a great, great athlete, but he is going to lose to a better fighter. And it’s going to upset a lot of people who can’t seem to imagine how BJ could do such a thing.
by Revjames13 on Sep 16, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The break GSP is on, is one he has been planning for a while now.
by Ro-J on Sep 16, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How come you don’t excuse GSP’s lack of mental fitness in previous fights, but you excuse BJ’s lack of physical fitness? Personally, I don’t excuse either.
by Pat on Sep 16, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When two opponents are this close in skill such as BJ and GSP, it’s a toss up. BJ however is a true fighter whereas GSP is an athlete turned fighter. As good as GSP is, I think BJ will win. And just because your record doesn’t show that you’ve finished people with all kinds of submissions does not mean that you cannot execute them effectively. Have you ever seen any of BJ’s old mma and jits footage? The guy can do a little more than just pull of a RNC.
by Eeeee on Sep 17, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ has more talent than GSP, in your head and most BJ fans heads, but REALLITY , GSP BETTER RECORD, the BETTER overall competition he has dominated and the FACT that he BEAT Penn say GSP is more talented. As long as you have to put any "IF’S in front of more talented, then BJ isn’t more talented. Mark my words, Bj doesn’t have close to what it takes to beat GSP in dominant fashion. Sounds like you think GSP has gotten to where he is, on his athleticism alone. GSP is every bit as good a fighter as Penn and Penn is NOWHERE near as good an athlete as GSP. Being just a great athlete wouldn’t do you much good in a fight, but if you are a great fighter than being a great athlete will set you APART from the rest. So in GSP’s case, atheticism is a HUGE skill and it will be the SKILL that decides this fight. GSP will knock BJ right back down to LW because he is the BETTER fighter.
by Gord on Sep 17, 2008 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez!! GSP fans are so sensitive. I know you guys are scared, because this is the most dangerous fight your champ has ever had in his career. There’s no need to talk smack because both fighters are great. I think Penn will win, and you think GSP will win. Let’s just leave it at that and let the fight speak for itself.
by pUniSHment on Sep 17, 2008 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think Fitch was his most dangerous fight, because he can SOMEWHAT match GSP’s strength, cardio and wrestling, not to mention he is right up there with Nog in his ability to take punishment. I think the eye poke made the first fight seem closer than it would have been without it and considering how much GSP has improved, I have no reason to be scared of BJ winning.
by Gord on Sep 18, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word G. Everything you said made a lot of sense. Georges trains and fights as a lifestyle. Thats a true fighter. GSP is a powerful, crisp striker with athleticism as an asset. I think BJ should fight Fitch first. Prove himself again
by DH on Sep 18, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ by Tapout(strikes) in the 3rd. BJ will have him tapping like Serra did.
by Aaron_W on Sep 16, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, worst interview ever. The interviewer should of had a schoolgirl uniform on because thats how he acted.
by spawn on Sep 16, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG LIKE GSP LIKE HOW DID U LIKE GET SO GOOD LIKE TOTALLY!!!!!
ME AND MY GIRLFRIENDS ALL THINK YOU ARE TOTTALLLLLLLLLY AWESOME LOL!!!!
Ya it was pretty bad.
by DirtyML on Sep 16, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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