UFC Quick Quote: Chuck Liddell knows the importance of being well rounded

lmao…thats actually all i have to say

by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 13, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

chuck is done. He doesnt have the work ethic of say a RANDY COUTURE. So even if he wins a fight or two in the near future, he is still getting older and all the years of not training at other aspects of the game will not change his ways a whole lot. It would be very hard for me to believe that at this point in time of his career, he is all of a sudden going to become this expert at grappling, or G&P, or use some BJJ…i dont think it would be possible for a guy with lidells work/training ethic which he has never done in his career to all of a sudden change it at his age.

by blah. anything can/and will happen in MMA on Sep 13, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but the guy was division 1 westler and a blue belt JJ he has the tools and kick box champ!!!! He needs mental training. stop head hunting or loose your spider .

by mma forever on Sep 13, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah but all chucks finishes were him COUNTER striking, all his losses were because the other guy was patient and didnt mind being booed and chuck not being the good attack striker he is got caught.. he needs to quit caring about impressing dana white and win

by randy murders on Sep 14, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

chucks strength is his weakness…. counter striking

rashad and rampage both knocked liddell out by counter punching and keith jardine countered with kicks all night long against chuck

if he faced machida he would get owned

by ufcaddict on Sep 14, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would love to see that fight, who knows if we will.

by Ro-J on Sep 15, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hehe! Yeah, Talk anout irony…

by TheNegation on Sep 13, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so thats a 4 year old quote?

by weoweoweo on Sep 13, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I thought the same thing. it’s kinda like the same thing that caused american airlines to drop 75% on the stock exchange this week. Most guys will read this and think it’s now. Must be a slow news day! I for one have to go get my 6 year old cleats and gear for football. ^ and 7 year olds… he’s an animal, has my mentality, likes to hit!!!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 13, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe this should refresh chuck’s memory and make him commit more to training on the different aspects of the game.. Its MMA not kickboxing chuck.

by weoweoweo on Sep 13, 2008 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yea well he doesnt even kick much…what 3 times at Rashad, one lower leg kick, 2 attempted head kicks at the end of the round because he was pissed?

by Chadx23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What’s the point of even posting that? Every one dimensional fighter SAYS you can’t be one dimensional, even though they are.

If you’re trying to send a message out to Chuck, mania, do it. This is lame.

Write an article next time…

by Dredg on Sep 13, 2008 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Uh … it’s a total contradiction. And he said it four years ago — a time when fighters were nowhere near as well rounded as they are today, making it even more important now more than ever to use all facets of the game. Chuck also clearly has known for a very long time about what it is going to take to give him the best chances to win every time out, but he continues to cling to his old ways.

by MMAmania on Sep 13, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol told you that these would think this is a recent quoyte. what happened to the days where someone would read the whole story??

by kevin doesn't know shit on Sep 13, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

4 years ago seemed like eons in the MMA world! I just recall watchin’ the old school UFCs and seein’ the Iceman[still without the moniker]in shoes. He already was a good sprawler back then, but the thing was that he didn’t use to drop his arms that low.

Methinks that he seemed to depend on his one shot punch too much as his career progressed, that he became arrogant enough to drop his guard and and just try to stalk the opponent while waitin’ for the opportune moment to land his right hand bombs!

Well those days are over. Fighters evolve so fast nowadays, that even Chris Leben thinks that he’s evolved so much from last time he fought Anderson Silva, and even considers himself ready to face him again…I dunno’ if he’ll win though, hehe!!

by TheNegation on Sep 13, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chris Leben has 0 chance against Silva, I think even Patrick Cote has a better shot than Leben

by brendan on Sep 13, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then Jacob Ortiz must be half dimensional.

by KS on Sep 13, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mania, Chuck’s not totally contridicting himself, he ‘chooses’ to stand (1 dimension), rather than not have the skills to at least defend himself on the ground and scramble to his feet. Chuck can beat the best ground game artist in the world because he has some of the best takedown defense in the game… it simply never goes to the ground.

Chuck needs to change his unconventional standup to more conventional standup, jab more, keep hands up, not lead with uppercuts and body shots and do some kicks… etc.. and like u said, quit being a headhunter… Maybe take an occasional takedown shot for some quick GnP.

Along with chuck’s speed declining, so is his power, if he wants to keep fighting he has to wisely admit somethings to himself and adapt to what other fighter are using against him, not so much evolve.

Chuck’s 38 yrs old and he pushed 1 dimension of his game for the best years of his fighting career. Let’s face it, Chuck is no GSP and he maximized his best asset (standup) to accomplish some extrodinary things in MMA.

by THORAZINE on Sep 13, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes but his sprawl speed is dwindling and his scrambling ability is gone. his striking is and always was second rate he wont ever be champ again and in fact i dont see him beating anyone in the top 8 again

by the heat on Sep 14, 2008 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

heat, Chucks loss of speed won’t matter near as much in his sprawling or scrambling as it will in his hands. Defensive and ground wrestling is more about leverage and power. One big thing that matters is his cardio’ u have to be a freak of nature like Couture to keep up with the 20 yr olds.

Chuck’s cardio has never been that good in comparison to other MMA fighters… that’s one of the reasons he’s kept the fight standing, because if it hit the ground he use to excert a lot of energy and that would take away his KO power when it went back to standing.

At 38 yrs of age, there’s little chance he’s going to phsically improve, but the good news is, there’s lots of room for improvement in his standup technique.

by daveavina@hotmail.com on Sep 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So true, it wasn’t that long ago that Chuck and Hughes used to dominate, because they had a skill that was above and beyond their peers. Now there are new kids on the block that are the total package. It’s human nature not to deviate from something that has worked so good for so long. As long as Chuck keeps saying, “I got caught, what do you want me to say”, he is still in denial that fighters are passing him by. I don’t think Chuck and Hughes are washed up, they just don’t look so good against the new breed of well rounded fighters. I also don’t think they will ever admit to themselves that they have to change. For Chuck that is a real hard one, because he has to accept that he has to put in the time (that he DOESN’T have at 38)to become well rounded, if he ever want’s to be champ again.

by Gord on Sep 14, 2008 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chuck vs. the winner of Shamrock/Kimbo.

by Brian "Bisping-Hater" on Sep 13, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chucks style may not be the most productive in the aspect of wins, but no one can say he’s boring. thats why he has so many fans. if a fighter with a boring style wants to stick and move,chuck turns it into an entertaining fight, win or lose. he comes in bombs away, one of us is gonna get our head busted style. I’ve said it many times before I don’t want to spend my hard earned cash to watch a fight like an evans-machida fight. Nobody does. I wanna get some bangin for my bucks. I dont even think chuck is really that good at mma. But I do know I not gonna see a bunch of pussyfootin around when he steps into the ring. He has such a large fanbase because he is one of the greatest entertainers out there. His fans like to see fights not technical bullshit. If u wanna watch grown men roll around and hump each other rent some gay porn, but if u wanna see a fight, watch a chuck liddell pay-per view.

by CLETIS on Sep 13, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I dont think anyone is saying he is a boring fighter, the discussion is about being well rounded if your going to keep up with the guys these days. A submission victory is just as exciting as a knouckout IMO. If you wanna get some ’bangin for (your) bucks" on PPV then order porn next time.

by Bojangles on Sep 13, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sayin if you can sell ppv’s your career isn’t over. Machida is undefeated but he couldn’t headline a ppv period. if you think a submission is more exciting than a knockout you are one of the few. The UFC’s greatest knockout series are some of the biggest moneymakers they have. If you like watching grown sweaty men rubbing up against other sweaty men u might want to go talk to a professional about that.

by CLETIS on Sep 13, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CLETIS If you just want head hunting stick to boxing, the UFC is called mixed martial arts for a reason. A great KO is fun, but so is watching a great BJJ fighter setup the choke or arm bar. Its growing in popularity because it is so varied.

Chuck’s problem is he is being exposed as a mediocre boxer. He dominated against a steady diet of grapplers, then when decent strikers fought him he got beat. You notice against Wandi he took the fight to the ground at the end to preserve his win. Of course Wandi doesn’t really gameplan, just just rushes forward swinging for the fences. The main reason Randy lost to him is he just started fist fighting instead of keeping to what won the first fight.

Chuck is a HOF’er no doubt but his time is over.

by Aaron_W on Sep 13, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very well stated, Aaron_W

by RedDog on Sep 14, 2008 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

aaron, chuck is not a boxer first off, he is a brawler. Guys that are learning boxing are who is beating him. Ufc is called ultimate fighting championship not mixed martial arts that is what mma stands for. I boxed for a long time and theres a big difference between brawling and boxing. Had you taken the time to read all my posts on the issue you would have seen that I said he needs to start practicing some other styles, mainly one that will teach him to protect the left side of his thick skull. My argument is and was from the start, Chuck sells ppvs and fills up seats. the only way his career is over is if he wants it to be. Iheard they sold 590,000 ppvs. how many do you think they could sell for a rematch now that people see how Evans can be entertaining to watch. Everyone had been saying how boring he is to watch. He’s won alot of fights, but the only two you really hear about is the two big KO’s.

by CLETIS on Sep 14, 2008 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

correction cletis 3 big ko’s

by the heat on Sep 14, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

UFC is just a name for the particular promotion. Mixed Martial Arts is the name of the sport. UFC is not a different sport than Pride was, or EliteXC, etc. Chuck does sell tickets no doubt, but I don’t know if he is really headlining material anymore since he really isn’t in the title picture at this point, there are plenty of great fighters who are ready for a shot and you can’t just hold the entire division up for Chuck. Evans probably won’t fight him again unless he loses to Forrest.

by Aaron_W on Sep 15, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every fighter at one time or another has a losing streak so to qoute the great Phil Anselmo “Waiting for the turning point”!!!!!

by HitmanBert on Sep 13, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Chucks fans wanna see fights and he gives it to them. he is probably the most fun fighter to watch win or lose. I dont spend my hard earned cash to watch boring styles. chuck won’t allow a fighter to do some stick and move bull. he’ll come in bombs away, one of us is gonna get our head busted. like him or not he comes to bang every fight. everyone knows if you wanna see a fight get a chuck liddell pay per view. who would pay to see a Machida-Evans PPV. No one that works for their money. Now put either one of them on a ppv with chuck and you’ll get it to see the fireworks, cause someones gonna take a beatin. it might be him it might be them but there is gonna be one hell of show.

by CLETIS on Sep 13, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

exactly! that post just about sums it up.

by kama kaze on Sep 14, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true…when Chuck is fighting, 80% of the time you can expect the fight to end in a KO…either him or his opponent…..that being said Chuck is my favorite fighter to watch and it sukcs seing him lose when we all know that he could have easily beat Rashad if he mixed it up more. More kicks to through Rashad off who was only expecting punches. Mayeb a takedown even if he didnt do anything with it, hey its still a takedown. Shit I’d even like to see old Chucky throw on a RNC like he did back in the day..

by Chadx23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup. and nice stat and analysis. ESPN already. 1 MORE FIGHT! 1 MORE FIGHT! 1 MORE FIGHT! (chanting with lighters up)

by kama kaze on Sep 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the problem is not that he is one dimensional, but that he is getting beat at his one dimension.

by shamo84 on Sep 13, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You are right. Who even was talking about Rashad’s striking before this fight. That means Chuck is even getting knocked out by people who don’t have a strong background in striking. Its not like Rashad submitted him or something. Chuck is getting owned at his specialty, which shows even more how he will never have a real chance again at the title. I think he now can be called Houston Alexander II. He can still make for an exciting fight, I just think that once a fighter starts getting knocked out frequently, things can only get worse.

by PEZ on Sep 13, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you know how the saying goes “it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks” and chuck is 38. guys like he and hughes won for so long so dominately using a 1-dimensonal style, that i think its stuck in their heads and cant get out. randy seems like to be the only one to really evolve out of the old guys.

by b.w. on Sep 13, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I certainly agree that it is “hard to teach an old dog new tricks”. It is virtually impossible to expect Chuck to change his style (one that has made him one of the most famous faces of mma). What’s his motivation at this stage of his life? I don’t get the feeling that Chuck is a workout/health junkie a la Couture and IMHO his age is showing.

by Muscle Dolphin on Sep 13, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

chuck already know all the trick he proved that in his fight agianst wanderlie, but he just likes to put on a good show.

by ruan-fiy on Sep 13, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What “tricks” did he show against Wanderlei exactly? it was just a sluf-fest, you make it sound as if he submitted him with a goga plata. Chuck is as one dimensional as they come.

by simmy on Sep 13, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can tell he’s lost some speed. all boxers know thats the first thing to go. power is the last. good boxing trainers like Ibarra and Jackson could break down a brawlers style fairly easily. they have broken down his footwork and his habits and they know whats coming and when. he needs to learn some knees and kicks. that is the only way i feel he can save his career and keep his fanbase. nobody wants to see chuck rolling around on the ground. with kickboxing and muay-thai training maybe he naturally starts protecting the left side of his head.

by CLETIS on Sep 13, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CLETIS, yup Chucks lost ‘speed’ that also results in losing power in his punches’ he couldn’t KO Jardin or Wanderlei. Evan said he’s been hit harder in practice… Chuck needs to make a ‘few’ but ‘major’ corections in his standup, and add some tools to his standup arsenal. I’m hoping he really admits somethings to himself and adapt his style so he could move forward to improve with an open mind… rather than just say, he got caught.

I hope he starts hitting the weights hard, he’s lost speed so he needs to start working a little more on gaining overall power. He’s producing less testosterone and more estrogen, everytime I see him in the ring he looks a little softer with a little less muscle.

by daveavina@hotmail.com on Sep 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean ‘cage’! not ring.

by daveavina@hotmail.com on Sep 14, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Headhunting worked for chuck when he was younger. He is older now and and isn’t quick enough to merely headhunt. Shamrock was a brawler and hasn’t won a fight in years. The only older fighter to do well is Randy and he is mostly a dirty boxer ground and pounder. Two aspects of the fight were strength and technique are the driving factors not speed and reaction time. Chuck will need to modify is fight style or go the way of the goonie bird

by staples on Sep 13, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

EXACTLY’’ Staples Nice to see someone that spots the samething I’ve noticed.

by daveavina@hotmail.com on Sep 15, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope they do some good matchmaking for Chuck for his next fight or it could be his last.

They will put together some huge PPV so that Chuck will be able to make a bunch of money for them before he becomes completely unmarketable and over the hill.

I’m thinkin A. Silva vs Liddell, Franklin vs Liddell, Forrest vs Liddell if Forrest loses the belt, Randy vs Liddell, etc.

by DirtyML on Sep 13, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Silva vs Liddell= Silva by KO or submission.
Franklin vs Liddell= Franklin by Decision or MAYBE TKO.
Forrest vs Liddell= Forrest by Decision or Submission.

Liddell is DONE. A true great former champion, a credit to UFC and a real warrior but time’s time, especially when you’re one dimensional like Chuck. His fights are great and exciting but you got to think of the guys health. He looked really hurt after Rashad’s bomb(!) and for a few seconds I was pretty worried for him. He should go into coaching or just retire and take it easy, spend his money on beer, gambling and women then waste the rest :)
He can’t be compared to guys such as Randy (who would kick Chuck’s ass at HW but not LHW) as Randy’s so versatile and fitness-wise really is a freak for his age. Also his wrestling style doesn’t corrode so mush with age.
Please Chuck…. retire healthy…. you’re already a legend!!

by MrAngry on Sep 13, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Franklin vs. Liddell would be my choice.

by Muscle Dolphin on Sep 13, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He looked better than one dimensional when he was taking Wandy to the mat.

I don’t think Chuck is as one dimensional as he is stubborn/cocky. When eating as many shots against Wandy as he was delivering…he was more than willing to change gameplans.

by introvert on Sep 13, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good point. But he IS still pretty 1 dimensional.

by MrAngry on Sep 13, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chuck been on top ever since kobe and shaq days…. jordan #23 status, who else been on cribs and have their own UFC special with an hour length of beadowns footage in the catalogues? he just ended the ridiculous UFC vs. PRIDE debate. he might be past his prime but theres only 1 belt in the super stacked LHW division. people got his pictures on myspace n sh*t. No doubt Chuck still has plenty of good fights if he wants to.

by kama kaze on Sep 13, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the ridiculous UFC vs. PRIDE debate. ?

That was settled when he got his ass whooped by Rampage the first time.

by DirtyML on Sep 13, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah but rampage left pride because he was getting his a$$ handed to him. It has nothing to do with ufc and pride it has to do with styles and making adjustments. forrest beat rampage, but that doesn’t make the ufc better than pride it boils down to styles more than anything. Chucks problem is he would rather get knocked out pushing the fight than to feel like he let down the fans by winning a boring f**kin’ decision.

by CLETIS on Sep 13, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn right, dirtyML!

by p on Sep 13, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

naaaahh.. Rampage WAS in PRIDE, true. but Wanderlei = PRIDE. Chuck = UFC. special announcement: Chuck beat Wand. Tito beat Wand. Forrest beat Shogun(injured, but still). Gonzaga beat Flipovitch, Big Tim beat Arlofski (and took his girlfriend, how taste my pee pee?), Penn/Diaz beat Gomi, Rampage beat Hendo to unify the belts. UFC was always better and you know it…. Fedor beat Tim in 2 seconds. I’ll give you that! lol.

by kama kaze on Sep 13, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kama. good reply. a.silva only fought 4 times there, but when he beat rich franklin, all the pride fanboys anointed him as being “a pride fighter”. both orgs have/had great fighters, but the ufc was always the better company and had better fighters from top to bottom. there is no such thing as a pride fighter anymore. there all ufc fighters fighting ufc fighters for the most part. its a silly argument that some cant seem to get over.

by b.w. on Sep 13, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

spider also beat hendo. but like you said, they're all great. i know theres pride lovers out there. its cool to disagree. thats what this form is for(i think).

by kama kaze on Sep 13, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mistake *arlofski was always UFC. got mixed up.

by kama kaze on Sep 13, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

how could u use rampage beating hendo as an example? theyre both from pride

by brendan on Sep 13, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well let me respond by asking you who won? the ufc champ or the pride champ? :)

by kama kaze on Sep 14, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

shoguns gonna own everyone at 205 once he gets healthy then your argument is going to hold up that well

by brendan on Sep 14, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everybody says dana’s in love with chuck! If I had 200 mil in the bank and I knew Chuck is one of the main reasons alot of that money is in there, I would probably show him alot of favoritism too.

by CLETIS on Sep 13, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love Chuck. I think that he’s done some great things in the UFC. But, if he were the same guy he was 5 years ago comming in to the UFC TODAY, he would not be the champ. I don’t beleive so, anyway. One trick pony, stuff the take-down and swing away. Just doesn’t cut it anymore. Every successful fighter in the UFC has more than one tool to use.

by Freddy on Sep 13, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes, but really the thing that Chuck has is the standup game and he’s lost 3 times to Rampage, Jardine and Evans in the standup and none of those fights hit the ground.. he really needs to work on his boxing and keep his hands up

by RoB on Sep 13, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Chuck is not done! I’m not hating on Evans but if Liddell wasn’t aggressive in that fight it would have been a snooze fest. Hey let’s just let the UFC get taken over by guy’s like Evans and Machida and see how exciting it is!

I loved how everyone though Wand was done after his 3 straight losses and then he came back in devastating fashion to shut the haters up. Chuck will do the same.

The Evans fight was a no win for chuck in the eyes of his haters. If he won it would have been "oh another wrestler fed to Chuck, and now that he lost "Chuck it done". Throwing that stupid upper cut was his own fault. He lost fair and square but he did not get dominated. IMO, the most impressive win over Chuck was his first fight with Rampage. I hope Chuck comes back and fights Shogun. After that fight we will see if he is really done.

by natedogg77 on Sep 13, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Iceman vs. Shogun…the fans want it Dana!

by Ground-Game on Sep 13, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea i admit doubting wand, thought he was expired milk. had $ on jardine. shoulda known better. thats why i knew hendo was gaurentee against palhares. props to evans. he was calculating and prepared and executed his gameplan. this next generation of fighters are atheletes and strategists. shogun vs. iceman would be instant classic and IF iceman loses, theres always a mega fight with Kimbo. and don’t try to lie, you’ll watch it. :)

by kama kaze on Sep 13, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well said natedogg77

by The Matt King on Sep 13, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give the man some respect. He is the most popular MMA fighter in the world because he fights for the fans. So many of you dillweeds on the boards turn on guys when they have a couple losses in a row. But seriously, he’s trying to make fights exciting. Can you blame him. He was coming in with a sick uppercut when Rashad KO’d him. Treating him this way is BS. If you are a fan of MMA, then don’t turn your back on guys like this. Always treat fighters down on there luck with respect.

by The Matt King on Sep 13, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Chucks own words describe the whole meaning behind this “i got caught, what do u want me to say” Chuck is well aware of how MMA works, and now he is willing to adept deeper into that world. good post Matt

by MMANL on Sep 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chucks next fight will probably be a rematch with jardine and it will be on the same card as jackson vs wanderlie and franklin vs manchida.

by hatteras on Sep 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, talk is cheap, trust me, I do it all the time. Walking the talk is an entirely different story. It’s hard to be focused at his stage in the game. He likes the glory, but he had it and he doesn’t really need it anymore. He wants it, but he doesn’t need it, not like some of the other fighters.

by dave on Sep 14, 2008 2:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It’s a relevant article even though it’s a few years old. Chuck Lidell is an icon of the sport and he has to seriously consider his future in the sport after UFC88’s outcome.

by Rilly on Sep 14, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

has anyone heard anymore about silva vs rampage 3?

by CLETIS on Sep 14, 2008 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

chucks still one of the most dangerous strickers out!!! has a fighter you fight to your strenghts, chucks is that knockout power he as. maybe he could mix it up abit more with a take down now and then but wouldnt change to much about his game. in mma its who lands that big shot first. chuck got caught thats the way it goes sometimes.

by HALE UK on Sep 14, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I havent posted since the fight main reason being im gutted how the fight played out. Also though to see what everyone thinks, i agree chuck leaves himself open and that something that he has to work on higher hands less danger!!

However i am in total disagreement that liddell is finished, i said rashad was a worthy opponent, nobody who goes 17 fights undefeated is an idiot!! Liddell has to get himself back to the shape as he was against tito, Im the biggest liddell fan out there, but i think his toning and muscle body mass has not been the same lately, and especially the fact he is getting older will make it harder for him, I know he has always had a gut but he looked so much more tined against tito. people say hes 1 dimensional and that his style wont work in todays game??? Hes not 1 dimensional hes a unique type of striker with many skills that he chooses not to use as he simply prefers to stand and bang, unfortunately 3 of his last four have ended up going the wrong way and 1 going the right way!!

Work on the basics chuck adn the good times will happen again!!!! Still a true LEGEND in my eyes!!

by mo on Sep 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No doubt that he’s a legend. I think Chuck’s work ethic has nothing to do with his gut and it’s more due to his age. He’s an intense guy. I can’t speak to his training, other than what I’ve seen on some documentaries, but everyone he trains with (including the Cal Poly wrestling team) says he trains hard. His problem is not his gut, but his mentality. I’d love to see more of the wrestler Chuck. Come on Chuck, I know you could have beat Rashad in a wrestling match! It’s true that fighters have to fight to their strengths, but fighters also have to adapt their game plan to the opponent’s style, i.e. Chuck’s plan should have been to circle back to center when Rashad was running from him and revealed that Rashad was running. Instead, Chuck went head hunting. Also a punch /takedown combo would have worked nicely, not to mention throwing in a few leg kicks would have been a good idea.

by The Matt King on Sep 14, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs