I’m not sold on Greg Jackson = greatest camp….just because Jarinde decisioned Chuck, and Evans KO’d Chuck…this is the same guy by the way, Chuck Liddell) it shows me that Chuck is the one with a problem and it doesnt matter who fought him. Jardine was brutally KO’d by Houston and Wanderlei….Evans has looked boring every moment he fights except when he got that Ko on Chuck. GSP beat John Fitch, but I dont think he needed Jackson’s camp to do it! I’m not denying they have some good talent for sure, but I wouldnt say thay have the best camp.

That post just reinforces that you can’t put in affect any rational, concrete pattern in the UFC; at any time, at any place, anyone can lose. There are simply way to many variables for an accurate fighter ranking system.

Chadx23 good points, I agree!

BNF, you got your answer about Kongo. This is what I said in the Tito thread about Juanito! The fighters he trains will retire him. Who would want to trust him after whats came out?

I figured Kongo would follow. I remember a clip where Rampage, Kongo and Bisbing were training together and were all laughing like a bunch of school girls. I guess you could just tell they were all tight. Sucks to be you Juanito!

I mentioned Greg Jackson merely as an example of a camp on US soil, as many others. :|

I guess Juanito was right when he said he would retire if Rampage lost… certainly looks that way now

Over the years I’ve noticed camps become popular as their fighters are winning or produces a champ. It circulates and so should the fighters for various reasons.

Juanito Ibarra brought Jackson up to a championship level, but I think it was more Jackson’s renewed dedication to training that did it. There’s a lot of camps that could have brought Jackson to this high caliber level and there’s a lot of camps that could maintain it. For Jackson it’s the atmosphere, he gets along with Bisping and likes the comeradery there, hopefully that will translate into winning.

brendan, that’s some funny stuff. Juanito’s retirement just wasn’t voluntary…

Since we are on the subject of camps, I was wondering what you guys really thought of Hackleman and The Pit. For a while, due largely to Chuck’s success, that was a camp I always heard people talking about. The thing is, outside of Chuck, I never hear about anyone coming out of that camp. I think Glover and Anthony Banuelos train out of there, but haven’t made a huge impact. Am I missing anyone, or is that it?

Lol, he’s the local fighter hear in the I.E (Cali). It was huge for the area when news was heard that he was fightin Griffin. Then, the craze fizzled shortly after the consecutive losses. Still, it’s cool to have some local talent.

pHIL: HOW has your muy tai training coming? I absolutely love it!

I crave Contact. I like being hit so its awesome. I got hit with my 1st hard leg kick like a week ago, and let me tell you….leg kicks are NO JOKE!!!!!

Jits is going good. With each class, I find myself surpassing other white belts that I train with. There is SOOOoo many small details involved in Jits that its really amazing. They have to lock me out of the gym to get me to go home.

At this point, my most useful training is probably Yoga. These past couple years I lost all flexability, going to Yoga is slowly changing that and its awesome. It helps me in both Jits and Muy tai class.

Uh, we got Muay Thai guys in here? Nice!

Kick loses to punch, punch loses to knee, knee loses to elbow, elbow loses to kick. MT! ;)

It’s going good. I’ve been training like everyday for the last 18 or 19 days or so.

Mega Jits.. Crazy Thai Box.. Sanda.. Wrestling.. Strength and conditioning..Cardio..I feel like I’m sweating pounds off daily.. I’m feeling good.. Today is going to be a lite day for me. after work.. just running on the thread.. eliptcal.. junp rope.. some weights.. steam room. shower.. then go home.. Tomorrow I covering a BJJ class for my coach.. a training partner of mine is fighting on short notice at the Ring of Combat AC.. on Friday.

I really looking forward to hooking up.. to train & and to burn some funk with my nizzle John for shizzle.

Soon my friend. Very soon. I am learning and improving at a fast pace!

Yoga is helping my development tremendously

yoga will help you with your conditioning as well by teaching you different breathing techniques.

do you roll up into your gym with your pink yoga mat john?

lol just playing

I never really thought that something like yoga would really be that big a benefit? Then again, during the first half hour of each BJJ class I take we do various odd stretches and strength moves that could be considered yoga, but almost all have a Jiu-Jitsu twist to it. My instructor is Brazilian, and only came to America a few years ago. He trained under Carlson Gracie, but his main instructor was Carlos Henrique, who awarded him his 3rd degree black belt. Needless to say, he is extremely hard to roll with. haha

Exactly. Why wouldn’t he want to try to clear his name? Maybe he feels that he doesn’t have an obligation to explain himself, to rise above the rumors. But, that sh*t just don’t work if you’re in the eye of the public. An explanation is mandatory for dismissal.

There is really nothing he can say.He has been called out by other mma fighters with proof ,like the the Tito comment.He knows anything else out of his mouth,would automatically be thought as a lie.He is hoping that this will eventually blow over and people will forget over time,THAT HE IS THIEF!!!!