Now and yen: UFC flirting with Japanese market

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It seems the UFC is kicking around the idea of making a run at mixed martial arts in the Land of the Rising Sun. In fact, several of Japan's media outlets including Nikkan and Houchi Sports have a spring 2009 date for an alleged UFC invasion.
As the mill turns, names are already being paired up for combat. Of course a rematch between Takanori Gomi and BJ Penn is a no-brainer, as is Kid Yamamoto vs Uriah Faber. But appearances by Kazushi Sakuraba and Hidehiko Yoshida aren't exactly whetting my appetite.
Not that it matters. A Japanese event needs Japanese icons, which describes both Sakuraba and Yoshida. And if the UFC really wants to sell tickets, Hong Man Choi vs. Dalip Singh is a MUST.
While this story has yet to be corroborated by the UFC, it wouldn't come as a surprise to most MMA fans. On July 11 the UFC signed a contract with WOWOW Broadcasting to air UFC pay-per-views in Japan, and after successful shows in England it seems only fitting for Zuffa to capture the former Mecca of mixed martial arts.
Besides, the way DREAM and Sengoku are performing finacially, they may have little or no competition.
Of course there is that whole messy little business concerning the demise of PRIDE. Unless the UFC stacks an event card with nothing but Japanese heroes, it could be a tough sell. How bitter is the average Japanese MMA fan?
And there is also the Fedor principle, which simply states that UFC President Dana White isn't going to risk the credibility of a division by having it's main star obliterated by an Ad hoc fighter who is one and done.
How do you risk the image of Penn if "The Fireball Kid" is a soldier of fortune? That's why I'm keeping my excitement in check, because it seems like we're back to the same old logistical problems that pop up every time a discussion starts about landing free agents.
You know Dana's rule: Either commit to a contract, or you die in limbo.
Just ask Randy Couture.
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Id love to see Gomi in the UFC’s stacked LW division… as well as mix it up in MW division as well. Bob sapp VS brock lesnar anyone?
by santiago69us on Sep 9, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they want to sell tickets, put wanderlei on the card. Let him murder some random japanese can pride style. haha. :)
by weoweoweo on Sep 9, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can watch him kick around Sakuraba 1 more time. haha
by naturalshadow on Sep 9, 2008 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why saku? they could have the page fight in japan, both are big there and it would be epic as always. I just don’t understand one thing, if they wanted to go to japan why kill Pride? they could just keep using Pride for their japanese events…
by linx on Sep 9, 2008 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point Linx!
I hope that the UFC does go to Japan. I love the fans, the fighters and th culture.
Gomi vs. Huerta!!!!!!!
by john on Sep 9, 2008 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be rooting for Gomi in that fight!
I don’t think that it is totally out of the realm of possibility to see a UFC in Japan. Whenever the UFC is held in England, they always throw some English scrubs on the card to round out the undercard and appeal to the local fans. Did all of them get multi fight contracts? Probably, but then Dana just cuts them after the fight.
Plus its not like all of the great iconic Japanese fighters all fight for one org which the UFC could cross promote with. They’d have to pull fighters from several organizations making it more difficult to accomplish.
And like I said yesterday upon hearing the news, this would probably be a combined UFC/WEC event since the best Japanese fighters fight below 155. The “Ultimate Zuffa Japan”
by ViolentMike on Sep 9, 2008 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM: U know me, I root for Gomi against anyone other than BJ Penn! lol
The UFC could also use Japan shows to make a UFC contract more appealing to FEDOR THE GOD!!! Its no secret that Fedor loves Japan.
Fedor vs. Brock in Japan would sell ZILLIONS! Fedor is beloved and Brock is as freakshowish as they come (in appearence) and we all know how the japanese love their freakshows.
If the UFC does want to expand to Japan, they will have to do it the right way and put out a mega card because the Japanese people are used to better cards then what the UFC puts out on a regular basis. their shockwave events used to feature about 5-8 great fights and a few freakshow fights. The UFC dopes have the assets to tAKE OVER Japanese mma, buyt they cant be cheap about it. A 1st card would have to look something like this:
Fedor vs. Brock or Cro Cop
Rampage vs. Sakuraba 3
Gomi vs./ Huerta
Kid vs. Faber
It will have to feature most of the former Pride stars!
Nothing owuld make me happier than the uFC expanding to Japan!
by john on Sep 9, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomi vs Florian or Huerta or Pellegrino would be lovely
by BLOodyMEss on Sep 9, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus, now is the time to fight Gomi. He has not looked great as of late.
by ViolentMike on Sep 9, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WOULD LOVE YO SEE MELVIN MANHOEF VS ANDERSON SILVA HES A FUKING BEAST AND NO AFENCE ON ANDERSON BUT HES NOT THE BEST P4P FIGHTER….MANHOEF HAS A 90% RECORD ON KOS HE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO SILVA BUT IT PROBABLY WONT HAPPEN ….FUCK U DANA….
by skoler on Sep 9, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, the first time I seen Manhoef fight live on TV was against Dong Sik Yoon, who’s record was something like 0-4 at the time. And you know what??? Dong beat Melvin. He is a one dimensional striker that got beat by a fighter with a 0-4 record. What is that?
If someone is still not convinced that Anderson is the best MW in the world, there really isn’t any point in responding to them because they are probably illiterate as well.
by ViolentMike on Sep 9, 2008 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson might not be the best p4p fighter in the world but neither is manhoef. I personaly think BJ Penn is!!!!
by belfort_fan on Sep 9, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could you possibly have that reaction? If you don’t think he’s #1, fine, but he’s without a question in the top 3 or 4. Don’t rate guys on how much you “like” them, rate them on how good they are. And I don’t think there’s anyone as talented as BJ.
by R-Dizzle on Sep 9, 2008 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, some of you guys need to chill man. My reaction was for him supposedly being numero uno, not that he isn’t talented. If you knew how to interpret text you might have been able to catch that :) take a chill pill brow
by linx on Sep 9, 2008 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who do you think is number one???
by belfort_fan on Sep 9, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HOPE BOB SAPP AND LESNER WOULD KILL EACH OTHER SO WE WOULD NEVER HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN …. THE BOTH SUCK…
by skoler on Sep 9, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, Lesnar sucks. He only destroyed Herring in his last fight.
Again, if you don’t like the personality of a guy, fine, but don’t say a guy sucks just because you don’t like him.
Lesnar is HUGE, is an excellent wrestler, and an excellent athlete. In MMA, that’s a great base to start with. He will continue to improve..
by R-Dizzle on Sep 9, 2008 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar way overhyped, so he laid on top of herring for 15 minutes and had a great punch in the beginning. Doesn’t make him GREAT by any means. He’ll get picked apart by Randy.
by linx on Sep 9, 2008 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will he still be overhyped if he kills Randy in the octagon? Randy is most effective in the clinch up against the fence where he can control his opponent. He will NOT be able to do that with Brock.
by ViolentMike on Sep 9, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you seem confident VM, I see it the other way around. If lesnar makes randy look like a n00b I’ll give him all the props, but how do you figure this with a guy that only has 3 fights, two against good opponents and being 1 and 1 between those two? Am I the only one who noticed he couldn’t do much with hearing? It was all power, that’s all he has. Now he’ll face randy and if by any miracles he gets pa$$ed him, he’ll take on a ground wizard even greater than the one he lost to with the exception that this ground wizard has great boxing skills. This is just hype, I can’t believe all you guys are buying into it…
by linx on Sep 9, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am with you on this linx, he beat herring a tough but not ranked fighter by holding himn down and landing a couple punches, thats good but does it make him a elite or great fighter?he is still far from that and i hope randy puts him back down where he belongs.
by roy on Sep 9, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know linx and roy, I just can’t see where Randy can take this fight. He isn’t going to get the standup, he won’t take Brock down and keep him there long enough to do any damage, he most certainly won’t sub him, and if he does use his dirty boxing (which is probably his only slim hope) Brock will simply outmuscle him. Granted, Randy is a MASTER gameplanner, and he will need a brilliant gameplan to win.
by chefdaddy on Sep 9, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not guaranteeing a Lesnar victory, but I think he has a GREAT chance at winning. Randy was never that good at beating the larger HW’s and Brock is as big and strong as they come. Plus, Randy is like 7 years older now then when he fought and lost to Barnett and company.
Heath Herring has a lot of MMA experience and he was not able to to a single thing to Brock. If he had landed a punch or two, or threw up a submission attempt, or even two, then I would think differently. But he couldnt do a thing.
Believe me, I will be rooting for Randy, but already put some $ on Brock at Even money – too good to pass up, and those lines changed quickly.
I think that the way Mir beat Lesnar is going to be the only way of beating him, otherwise he will win decision after decision, a la Sean Sherk, by taking down his opponent and keeping them there. Right now, I got Mir, Nog, Gonzaga, and Werdum as the fighters that can beat Brock. But then again, you probably don’t need a world class guard to beat Brock, so we’ll see what Randy got off his back in November.
by ViolentMike on Sep 9, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roy and Linx: I don not think that beating Herring makes brock a great fighter just yet but I do think it makes Brock a really bad stylistic match up for Couture. Its no secret that the Big heavyweight wretslers have been known to give Couture Problems. Well now he is getting the biggest and most agile of them all and at Randy’s age, I think its a horrible idea and the UFC’s way of defusing the Fedor fight and building Lesnar into a star at the expense of Couture. Brock will get better and better but until then he can survive and win on Brute strength/agility and his wrestling game. Herring couldnt do a single thing but turtle up. Once couture starts tasting the power, I think Randy will FOLD! Herring isnt the BEST fighter, but he is as tough as they come so he took a beating from Brock and made it to a decision. NOt a lot of HW will be tough enough to do that. Randy will not be able to withstand that kind of beating fgor 25 minutes. Its just a bad match up for Randy. It wont mean that Randy is not the better fighter, it will just mean that Randy can’t beat Brock. There is a difference. Like Mike said only the jits guys will beat Brock. Randy’s isn’t good enough IMO.
Randy can still beat top fighters (strikers) like Kongo, cro Cop, Sylvia and he will have a shot against guys like Werdum, Arlovski. But he cant beat guys like Fedor, Barnett, Nogueira or even lesnar. Not saying Brock belongs in the same list as those legends, just that he is a bad match up for couture. I always thought Randy was a better Light heavyweight then Heavyweight!
I would actually like to see a Herring vs. Couture match up. I think it would be a pretty good fight.
by john on Sep 9, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you on the match up, its not ideal for coulture stlyes make fights, at this point brock is so big and strong with that alone he could beat a top guy but still loose to a low level fighter with the right skill set. i just don’t think he is a elite fighter yet and may never be, as far as stand up i think he has a ton of power but that does not mean he is a great striker and on the ground against herring he could have done so much more but didn’t,it will be tough for any wrestler to beat brock but if anyone can do it it will be randy and i still see werdum or nog beating lesnar
by roy on Sep 9, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Roy, I’m sorry but all I see when I look at brock is power and nothing more. and he proved this against heath that all he has is power. That’s not going to take you far in this game. He could end up running through randy, there sure is a chance, but I just don’t think it will happen. Anyway, I hope I’m wrong because I don’t like randy for all the sh*t he tried to pull, but I just have to be realistic here.
by linx on Sep 9, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100% with linx, this guy has shown nothing but brute strength. he did next to nothing when he had Herring in dominant positions, he showed no ability to choke when he had his back, had no idea how to put his hooks in and lets be real…ANYONE that large is going to pack a punch. Not saying the guy won’t be a factor but I’m not jumping on the bandwagon just yet, he’s done nothing overly impressive…
by The_Cannibal on Sep 9, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as a side note, everyone said there was no way Couture was going to control Gabe the way he did everyone else and we all saw what happened there…
I’ve stopped betting against Randy after losing my last 2, haha
by The_Cannibal on Sep 9, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live here for the next 3 years, so Dana, please please make this happen.
by dramos37 on Sep 9, 2008 2:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would love to see gomi vs penn or hureta but not florian he would just back peddle the japanese fans would walk out the arena and faber vs yamomoto
by ukmma on Sep 9, 2008 5:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the Japanese understand the fight game and they would appreciate Kenny’s counter attacking. However, if the fight took place in front of the narrrow minded British fans, then yes, maybe they would walk out of the arena.
by ViolentMike on Sep 9, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a brilliant card…. similar to the Pride Bushido events (Japan v Brazil etc..)
But, unfortunatley I can’t see Mr White Signing the Japanese stars like Gomi & Kid Y for a single fight… If Gomi beat Penn (which is definatley a possibility) it would de-grade the UFC lightweight division big Time…
By the way… Whilst wandi is a good shout for the card… I for one don’t want to see him waste Sakuraba again.. (Besides Sakuraba was really a Welterweight – I woulda liked to have seen him fight Hughes when they were both at their prime!
by DanP on Sep 9, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and… by the way ViolentMike… we Brits are not all narrow minded… the world of MMA is new to people here thats all… In time I’m convinced it’ll be bigger here than the sweet science..
Having said that – I was at the last UFC event at the 02 area in London and the Crowd were amazing!
by DanP on Sep 9, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
having fighters sign an exclusive has been proven to be THE most succsesfull way to run a fight organization. everyone else that is not doing exclusive contracts (trying to be hip) is failing miserably. i seriusly doubt the ufc will be a success in japan for quite some time. they dont seem too interested in their own fighters, let alone the ufc’s. they cant sell what people dont want.
by b.w. on Sep 9, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so killing pride and then go to japan?? bitchmove ufc i hope it never gonna work stay in your styupid own cuountry
by usalost on Sep 9, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the UFC goes back to Japan, it’ll be fascinating to see how they’ll be embraced this time around. There’s only one major promotion in Japan that uses a cage (Cage Force) and I rate them lower than Shooto and DEEP. Also, the first time around, the UFC used Japanese fighters (most notably Sakuraba), and they still weren’t universally embraced. Should be interesting.
by Jay on Sep 9, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if they focussing on a boshido type event would be a good idea. All the top ranked lightweights fight over in Japan (other than BJ), and that is only because the UFC division is still fairly young. Sonce no one in the UFC can fight ranked guys, its pretty hard for them to become ranked. I think if you matched up guys like Florian, Huerta, Stevenson, Sherk, Edgar, and Griffen with guy like Gomi, Aoki, Hnasen, Ishida….those rankings could really be evened out to more accurately reflect the reality of the competition at 155 (or 160)
by Amos on Sep 9, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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