Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar video UFC 91 on ESPN
by MMAmania.com on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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The media blitz for the bout between heavyweight champion Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 is already insane ... and we're still more than two months away from fight night:
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I am afraid that the hype will be far better than the fight. Brock will defeat Randy convincingly. No doubt.
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously though OJR, the fight was announced yesterday and look how many video and audio interviews or press conferences we already had! This is going too fast too soon, by the time fight night comes I’d most likely be very tired of all propaganda. But oh well, the fight should be good to go through this thing, but it won’t match the hype!
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am still optimistic that it will somehow match the hype. I never thought that the Liddell/Wandy fight could ever match all the hype that it had for years and years, yet that fight definately delivered.
by naturalshadow on Sep 3, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing about wandy vs chuck is that they were both long term champions in the same division for different organizations, now that has the makings for being a great fight (as it was). randy vs lesnar cannot have the same weight, lesnar is 2-1 and his hype alone is already too far beyond where it needs to be IMHO.
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
linx it could be looked at as passing the torch? Randy as a wrestler passing it to a big strong and younger wrestler? And this is exactly what the UFC needs to do with this fight! Every other week have them do some interviews. By fight time, everybody and their grandma will know of this fight. If Affliction did half of this with Tim/Fedor they would have done abit better in their 1st show? Instead of promoting Affliction 2, they are out sponsoring a Nascar driver who came in 35th place?
by JV on Sep 3, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linx and OJR, please don’t start with the “over hype” already. This fight was just announced and I became “gitty as a school girl”… uhhh, did I just say that, I mean boy… you know what I mean. But seriously, we always talk about MMA getting its due and getting more TV time, like ESPN and other channels because more exposure means we all win, right. So ESPN immediatly puts them on TV and begins the hype. GOOD. Isn’t this what we all want. If this would have been happening when Anderson/Hendo was announced NO WAY you guys would complain. Just because you don’t necessairly love the fighters they are talking about doesn’t make the fight any less important or any less exciting to the majority of the fans, myself included.
by BNF on Sep 3, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t doubt this fight will be a good fight, I’m just saying it doesn’t measure up to being a liddell vs wandy fight. And I sure do hope MMA gets more exposed and if this fight helps in that sense, so be it (but I know for a fact that you two, BNF and JV were all against some other fighters getting some national attention, yall know who I’m talking about… LOL)
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JV your post wasn’t even up when I wrote mine. Good minds… To expand on your point it is David vs. Goliath, Rookie vs. Veteran, Old vs. Young. This fight has something for everyone. Maybe it is just me, but I am so excited for this fight and I normally could care less about HW. There is so much at stake for both fighters and I love all the hype, it can never be enough for me. Why do you think I am on this site so much?
by BNF on Sep 3, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BNF, Thats what Im talking about!!!!! Im a fan of both, so whatever the outcome, Ill be ok with it! Like you say, I dont care how much hype this fight gets. Im going to watch every interview, every video, and every bit of news! ITS A GOOD TIME TO BE A MMA FAN!!!!
by JV on Sep 3, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO! linx, I dont really mind the exposure Kimbo gets. To me, its more the opponent choice! I like watching him fight, I just want EliteXC to test him.
by JV on Sep 3, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh…. Kimbo Slice. He can get all the hype in the world, I am just too smart to believe it. Now Brock, on the other hand, I believe that hype.
by BNF on Sep 3, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to be a huge Randy fan, but after his shenanigans, I hope Brock pounds him into a vedgatative state!
Couture should not be uFC champion, but I am very happy that its 5 round instead of 3. Then again, I dont really think it will last longer than 3 rounds.
by john on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will go the distance if Randy doesn’t outpound Lesnar. The question comin’ into this fight is, who will be doin’ most of the poundin’?
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing fight!!! this is one where Couture is once again the underdog… Brock does not have a lack of confidence, he feels he’ll destroy Couture. The fun doesn’t stop there one of them will be fighting NOG or MIR… how do u like them apples!?… This will bring excitement to the hvwy div. It has been floundering for years! If u don’t like these matchups then u don’t like the hvwy division period!
by THORAZINE on Sep 3, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno about Couture being the underdog. looking around the net, the casual fan seems to be saying that Brock is gonna get smashed, so i wouldn’t be surprised at this point to see brock as the underdog in the initial odds.
by kitsunex on Sep 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WEll if Couture is indeed the underdog, then better cash in on Randy ‘coz that’s where the greens are at!!
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that “hype will be far better than the fight” OJR. This could be another one of ’em Florian-vs-Huertas, hehe!!
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesnar should have to fight Bob Sapp since lesnar is naturally a SUPER heavyweight at around 290 lbs!!! then if he could get past Sapp the ufc should bring Mark Hunt over to fight him since hunt weight between 290-300 lbs. if lesnar could beat those 2 guys then he’d have my respect, but until he beats someone who isn’t 40-50 lbs lighter than he is, it’s just my opinion but i can’t respect that.
by deuce 4 on Sep 3, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock would crush Sapp. Sapp has absolutely no skill. Even his punches are tough to look at. Weight isn’t everything, just watch Cro Cop vs. Sapp.
by naturalshadow on Sep 4, 2008 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT VIDEO MMAMANIA. you guys have done a great job on keeping up and being ahead of everyone else. no wonder i have you guys as my homepage.
by b.w. on Sep 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont even have us as my homepage. Can you do that?
by MMAmania on Sep 3, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tools > Internet Options > General. Should just type in what you want as homepage then. Pretty easy.
by Macho Bullshit on Sep 3, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe mania doesn’t know this, he was probably being sarcastic?
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Firstly sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet and also why would he be sarcastic to someone (b.w.) who was saying how great the site was, kind of a dickish thing to do if he was.
by Macho Bullshit on Sep 3, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe you. i didnt know it either for a long while. i had yahoo.com as my homepage for a long time. then my nephew got on my pc and seen that i was on this site alot. he tried to write some gay-a$$ shit about me when he figured out my user name, as a prank,, but i caught him 1rst and gave him the boot. i got back on and seen he had made mania as my homepage as well. i thought fck, this is the 1rst site i hit everyday and the 1 i hit most, so why change a good thing.
by b.w. on Sep 3, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow macho, calm down. I just find it very funny that mania has a site and doesn’t know how to save a homepage site (which he just confirmed he didn’t know). I mean, being the owner of the site you can see how many ppl has it bookmarked, and yet he said “you can do that?”… just seems really funny in a way LOL.
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BW-
Funny stuff.
Mania-
That is surprising. And funny.
Macho-
You need a hug. ;)
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol im not mad so err sorry if it came off that way. Also off topic is Jesse Holland mmamania or just the head writer? Just wondering…
by Macho Bullshit on Sep 3, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy better work on his jits because he is going to get taken down right off the bat. Brock doesn’t want to stand with Randy that’s for sure. I think Lesnar has the upper hand in this fight because of his size and athletic ability but he better be mistake free and he better just try to lay on top as much as possible.
by jimmy_dean on Sep 3, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jimmy_dean: I think w/Brock’s inexperience, we will see some stretches wherein Brock would like to stand and bang. But of course, he won’t be havin’ 2nd thoughts on taking the fight to the ground.
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you know you can save it in a small window in google. I have mini windows with weather, real estate new headlines, and mmamania headlines that auto update.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Sep 4, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha thats way better, good job guys. Brock is massive compared to couture… but i still have a feeling couture will be on top..
by Sir_alan on Sep 3, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope Anderson Silva isn’t getting pissed by the lack of build up for his fight. Did everyone forget about it?
by A Lynch on Sep 3, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cote just isn’t percieved as enough of a threat to Silva for the hype machine to kick into overdrive
by Holdin_Ropes on Sep 3, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What man on earth is percieved as enough of a threat to Silva?
by DSmith on Sep 3, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flying heelhooks ftw, i must say i dont think randy is gonna compete in this fight at all..
as far as anderson silva being threatened i think a hendo rematch will do it
by randy murders on Sep 3, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jean Claude Van Dam or perhaps Dolph Lundgren either in his Rocky IV Drago prime or his He-Man prime
by AJ on Sep 3, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Norris or Jackie Chan could kick the Spider’s ass, lmao!
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see Rashad giving Anderson a run for his money. I say this because stylistically he matches up nicely. Wrestling is Rashads base in MMA and I could see him taking on the Spider with it. Travis Lutter made Silva look human when he got him on the ground. why couldn’t Rashad? I thought Silva was going to get knocked out by Lutter. That was something else!
by RyanHobbs on Sep 5, 2008 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cote is the Canadian Leben. Silva will maul him. Now if Silva ever jumps up in weight and fights Liddell (which has been rumored off and on several times), THAT would be a huge seller.
by yohnstoppable on Sep 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think there are a few people who could threaten Silva at lhw. I think Hendo 2 could be good, but still see Andrson winning again, and that is his only threat at mw.
by naturalshadow on Sep 4, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Canadian Leben as Cote’s new nickname.
by PW on Sep 4, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just got back from lunch and everyday I DVR ESPN First Take so I can watch it on lunch and fast forward the commercials. (I watch Sportscenter in the morning before work, and after work I watch Around the Horn and PTI..). I was just about to post that I saw the two of them on there…
by ViolentMike on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pti is the shit! and ESPN.com is my homepage…
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only tony k. does. wilbon seems to have some respect for the sport, but isnt very knowledgeable.
by b.w. on Sep 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN.com is your homepage? can you do that?
by pancakehead on Sep 3, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha!!!
(I am pretty sure that was sarcasm)
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only tony…wilbon gets into the big fights
by McArthur on Sep 3, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re old guys. It’s hard-wired into their frontal lobes to fear change and hate new things, especially new things that threaten dinosaur things they love, such as boxing.
by PW on Sep 3, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM you pretty much described my morning…and after work too.. But I’ll repalce ATH with “ROME”.. Question for you bro..
about PTI.. you and both mentioned how we watch that show religously.. but why are Tony/Wilbom.. two " UNDER COVER MMA LOVERS "..
If you could pick 5 fights and show it to these to guys.. to get them out of the closet.. lets say within the last 5 or 6 yrs.. that you know without a doubt they will turn a page in the critism of MMA?? Which 5 fights would you show them??
This question is open for everyone to get their two cents or 5 fights in..
by PhilQNY on Sep 3, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
griffin/bonner 1 for sure. randy/sylvia, fedor/cro-cop, wandi/chuck, any gsp, a. silva or b.j fight, just so they know. theres so many great ones, its hard to come up with just five. i would recommend Pride’s 10 year video (from zuffa) so they would know their history. i was gonna say frye/takayama, but they would probably think it was too “violent”. good question PHILNQY.
by b.w. on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would show them the sportsmanship between Drago, pete sell vs. Scot Smith
Nog vs. Cro Cop
Sakuraba vs. Wanderlei 3
anderson vs. Franklin 2
Gomi vs. Kawajiri
Gomi vs. Diaz
by john on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil, I really like to watch Rome as well. The problem is that I get out at 5 and I get home and just turn on ESPNHD.
ACTUALLY, what I’m doing when I get home is set my dvr to rrecord all Rome, ATH, and PTI that way I can begin watching Rome when I get home, fast forward the commmercials, and by 6 I’d be done with all. Good Idea…
Regarding your question, WTF, its already past 5, I am OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d bypass the UFC and show them Torres vs Maeda. I’d also probably show Faber vs Pulver as well; probably still one of the biggest fights in WEC history.
I’d also show anything with Frank Edgar or Anderson Silva. Maybe also Huerta Garcia; that was a sick fight.
by JB on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, I’d Definatley show Torres Maeda.
1.Torres vs Maeda
2.Tyson Griffin vs Clay Guida
3.Tyson Griffin vs Frankie Edgar
4.Chuck vs Wandy
5.Griffin vs Bonner 1
there are so many great fights I’m sure I’m leaving a couple out. I wanted to list a couple of Anderson Silva fights, but none of them have really been close except the Hendo and Lutter fights which were a little boring. Honerable mentions were GSP vs Matt Hughes 2, Rampage vs Forrest, Uriah Faber vs Jeff Curran, and Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg 1 or 2.
by DB on Sep 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d show them Rampage vs Chuck 1, Gomi vs Diaz, Fedor vs Randleman, Fedor vs Cro Cop, Big Nog vs Bob Sapp.
Those all are very exciting fights to me, and I think they would make a good intro for a casual fan into MMA.
by DirtyML on Sep 3, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you would only show them fights from a defunct organization?
by naturalshadow on Sep 5, 2008 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The five fights to show them is a pretty tough call but I know two fights just off the top of my head NOT to show them:
Belfort vs. Eastman (LOL I don’t think either of them would watch after seeing the vagina on Eastman’s head…)
Kalib Starnes vs. Nate Quarry (the infamous “running man” fight, that was brutal to watch)
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this fight is way to overhyped and it wont deliver.brock will charge randys old ass take him down and sit on top of him the whole fight because he cant finish even from great postions zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
by jimmy v on Sep 3, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude quit being such a whiner! Brock has had one fight where he laid on a guy. ONE! let’s give the guy a chance here to show us what kind of a fighter he is (i say it takes like 10 fights) before we start labeling him as a “lay n pray artist”
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you talking about? you have your opinion and I have mine. It’s like you said, the dude has 1..(three fights), where he laid on the guy (he would have laid on mir had he not submitted him, and his first fight he won by laying on top of a small japanese dude, who couldn’t breath and was forced to tap). he’s not ready for someone in the caliber of randy. different level of the game brow.
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anthony was referring to jimmy V linx…
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you thenegation. I thought it was fairly straight forward as my post was under his, not indented after his…
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesnt matter linx noes whats up.and im not whining im just pissed on how all this is going down.nog and mir are getting shitted on because there names are not as popular as brock and randys.so the man with belt nog is getting pushed to side with a worthless belt so a backstabber can come backafter a year and fight a overhyped one dimentisal wrassler for the real belt bull shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
by jimmy v on Sep 3, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure if the fight is deserving of a title bout or not, all I know is that this is an excellent match-up and should be a great fight.
by Fister McGavin on Sep 3, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This fight is going to be so freakin Huge. I can Imagine it having way over 1.5M Buys. And for everybody who’s an Idiot, Stop Comparing Tim Silvia with Brock Lesnar, they are 2 different fighters, Tim is stand up, Lesnar is a National Wrestler. Couture will Not manhandle Lesnar like he did with tim, And if you think other wise, you are an MMA Noob. And Early someone tried to compare Bob Sapp To Brock, that almost made me shit my pants. Sapp would get killed by Brock and he is only a freak show. Brock Lesnar is the REAL DEAL. He’s going to Destroy Couture, on the feet or on the ground, then He will Most Likley face Nog, In witch I hope he shocks the world and gets the Title. Nog is only good On the ground. and Only beat both Silvia, and Herring Becuase he got Lucky with a submission, he wasn’t winning anypart of the fight until then. I don’t want to see a champion Lose the whole fight then win with a Stupid Submission, He will neevr be A PPV Draw fighting like that. Lesnar Dominated Herring, and he would Dominate Sylvia also, Much better then what Nog Did, He’s going to Train his Jits Defence, and he Will Beat Nog. -FACT
by Chase on Sep 3, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so crazy. If Nog takes punches like he did against Herring, then Brock will beat him. No doubt.
But I don’t see Nog being that moronic…
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, wow there. what punches did nog take from Herring? Don’t you mean sylvia? You guys need to watch that heath vs nog fight again. No offence but your mind is playing a trick on you guys…
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the fight where Herring had Nog knocked down on the ground in a daze but hesitated because he foolishly thought the ref was going to end the fight?
That fight?
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes that fight! so you do remember, hurray! That was a kick, it was not a punch or punches. Get your mind right brother :)
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
I will watch it again. The point being that Brock is an impressive physical specimen and he has a mean streak.
If Nog gets caught by Brock it could be a short lived fight.
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nog has good boxing and was beating herring standing, herring caught him with a great kick and thats it,nog already beat him twice before that and chase obviously has no idea who nog is.
by roy on Sep 3, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but see, ppl are overlooking nog’s great endurance, he fought ppl like fedor, josh barnett and cro cop. The dude can take a punch. That kick that he got from heath was the most devastating blow he ever gotten in any of his fights, that has to be the closest anyone was ever able to KO him, and he still got back to his feet. that’s what I call a great champ! Now, heath is not as great as cro cop, fedor or barnett IMO, I’m not saying that kick was lucky, but it definitely was a surprise. Nog can take a punch, and lesnar sure has a huge size advantage, but IMHO he cannot punch as hard as fedor (yes), crocop (yes) or barnett (yep!).
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Nog’s record is undisputed. He is great. I was just playing what ifs…
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In agree with Chase, except for the part about being 100 percent definitive on Brock beating Nog. Not to say it couldn’t happen. I think Lesnar can and will beat Nog if he fights intelligently, but Nog is one of the very fighters that will give Lesnar trouble over his career.
by PW on Sep 3, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who hates on Nogueira just shows their ignorance. big Nog is a walking legend, he doesnt get lucky!
Nog doesnt loose fights, he just runs out of time!
by john on Sep 3, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too! although the he Will Beat Nog. -FACT part was kinna bold. lol
by kama kaze on Sep 3, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how everyone’s overlooking Mir. Just keep overlooking him, he’s not there, sshhhhhhh Mir who? voice falls to a whisper….
I’m telling you, Mir will win this whole thing. You can put that down in the books right now.
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahahaha
by linx on Sep 3, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont doubt that, but it is going to take another huge effort when he has to fight BROCK again.
by Fokman on Sep 3, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whisper
Mir is overrated.
Mir’s highlight of snapping Sylvia’s arm can only carry you so far.
Mir got owned by a blown up LHW named Vera.
Mir was gift wrapped a decision by Mazzagatti against Brock.
You can put down in the bankruptcy books how much $$$ you are going to lose betting on Mir, too.
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt know that Maz helped Mir apply the kneebar! What fight were you watching buddy?! Oh you must mean when Brock like the noob that he is hit Mir in the back of the head repeatedly. Is than what you meant?
by bostonmmajunkie on Sep 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When The Moustache immediately stood them up and deucted a point instead of warning him eight times like he does everyone else? Mir turned his head after Brock began swinging his arm. That was not an illegal shot. Any competent ref (Big John) would have let that go.
by PW on Sep 3, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PW-
I don’t even know why you bothered explaining it to him.
If he could not infer what I meant then there is no hope for him.
Thanks, though.
boston-
Your name is a facade. You know what I mean, buddy?
by OJR on Sep 3, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boston, lets say you’re playing tetris and you’re on level 50, record high score, just knocking out rows and then your kid brother pauses the game. after returning to the game, you lose! whos fault is that?! thats dirrrrty!!
by kama kaze on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you wish he was overrated! how can he be overrated when he’s barely even rated?! Give me a break!
Let’s see: he’s got solid stand-up, good wrestling, plus he’s ‘A’ level on the ground for a heavyweight, weighs 255 so he’s about the biggest HW this side of Lesnar in the UFC and oh yeah, he’s very smart and very athletic not to mention young and now re-dedicating himself after the horrific injury.
Tell me that doesn’t make up a great fighter.
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fights you need to watch
Mir vs Freeman
Mir vs Vera
by yohnstoppable on Sep 3, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahahaha
by Kirk on Sep 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have to agree, it will be interesting to see if randy can control brock in the clinch, personaly i think brock will be to strong for than and i can’t see randy getting the KO so i have to go with brock. if nog beats mir i think brock vs nog would be very interesting, if they fought tomorrow i would say nog subs him but by the time the fight happens it will be 6-8 months from now, by that time brock should have good enough bjj defense to beat him.
by hughes on Sep 3, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So a Brock Lesnar fan is calling people who support REAL mma fighters Noob’s that is classic!!!
by The_Cannibal on Sep 3, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“And Early someone tried to compare Bob Sapp To Brock, that almost made me shit my pants. Sapp would get killed by Brock and he is only a freak show”
Are you kidding me? Sapp has some very solid K1 credentials, with wins over the likes of Ernesto Hoost (twice). He is also MUCH bigger than Lesnar (by about 100 lbs, actually). To call Sapp a joke with recent K1 success before the Nog fight, then claim Brock is a god for 10 year old wrestling credentials… THAT is a joke
“Nog is only good On the ground. and Only beat both Silvia, and Herring Becuase he got Lucky with a submission, he wasn’t winning anypart of the fight until then.”
First off, Nog has very solid boxing. Second, he didn’t beat herring with a sub. He beat him by decision, because he DOMINATED him the entire fight besides that one kick. Also, the Sylvia fight wasn’t as one sided as people think. Watch the second round again without Rogan’s bias.
“I don’t want to see a champion Lose the whole fight then win with a Stupid Submission, He will neevr be A PPV Draw fighting like that”
Go watch toughman competitions. You obviously know nothing about mma.
by yohnstoppable on Sep 3, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right on champ! i’m glad he’s back and not dealing wit all that unnecessary BS in the courtroom!
by kama kaze on Sep 3, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that is one way to kilL the Kimb vs Shamrock hype. This fight will have record hype and poor Brock is done for. He has no submissions and no real submission defense…the only way he wins in KO and he could not KO Herring, who in round 3 was nothing but a turtle.
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is funny man! he doesnt respect anyone i sense.
by Tony on Sep 3, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope he Reminds me of a young Tank Abbot with his dis respect and thats why i dont like em. Hope he has a career just like tanks too.
by DBG on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. Tank was at least funny in his day. Lesnar is closer to Ortiz during his championship imo.
by yohnstoppable on Sep 3, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda funny that things are falling in place for Mir vs Lesnar2,I personally believe that Nog has the advantage ,but you can’t overlook Mir .Everytime it seems that Mir gets overlooked is when he shocks everyone.I also believe that this match[Couture vs Lesnar],is going to be hard for Couture to match up ,it is basically Couture going against a bigger ,stronger,faster Couture.Brock is just as good of a amateur wrestler as Couture , I just can not see where Couture has an advantage ,except experiance,which to me,is his only chance.Couture is the best at coming up with gameplans.
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t necessarily think Lesnar is a younger couture. Lesnar is freestyle, whereas Couture is greco. Couture is also one of, of not THE best in mma for mixing strikes with takedowns. His mma wrestling from a technical standpoint is definitely superior to lesnar’s. Hell, his striking is also superior to lesnar’s from a technical standpoint at that. Couture is also the best game planner in mma.
To me it all boils down to whether or not Couture, who is the much more technically sound fighter, can overcome someone as fast and as powerful as Lesnar. The only similar style matchup I can think of is Randleman, but that was years ago.
by yohnstoppable on Sep 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll agree with that,but will he be able to dirty box Brock,NO.I can not see Randy stopping an attempt to take him down.I think he will stay on top of Randy ,and I see it ending in the second round .I don’t think Randy can take the punishment that Herring took,but Randy has beat a bunch of people he was not suppose to match up with so who knows ,but i can hardly wait
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Randy fought Ganzaga, I thought it would be a long shot for him to win….but when I saw Randy lift Gonzaga in the air and then slam him all 250 some odd pounds to the mat and break his nose…I knew Randy would win. I think Brock is going to be a VERY hard match for Randy to win, but I think he does have a chance. Brock cant punch hard, but not fast. If Randy can avoid the big punches and try not to end up on bottom, I think he can do ok.
I have to pick Randy to win based on experience and cage smarts.
by Chadx23 on Sep 3, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be Mir/Lesnar 2 as well but I will throw this out there — Couture can win this fight IF he devotes the majority of his training to a gameplan that focuses on Jui-Jitsu!! The only way he wins this fight is if he pulls a Mir.
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW. BROCK IS SUCH A DOUCHE BAG. HE NEEDS TO BE BACK IN THE WWE. YOU CAN TELL HE’S SUCH AN ASSHOLE. SOMEONE WILL PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE
by JESSE on Sep 3, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaa. He acts and speaks like he’s from roughly 8-10 000 B.C. oooooga booooga!
by GodDamnMike on Sep 3, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The missing link between the silverback gorilla and the albino gorilla…
by TheNegation on Sep 3, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
personally i dont know who to pick in this fight, do you go with the crafty veteran or do you go with the up and comer who is younger, faster and stronger? I want to see what brock can do if he is put on his back but i dont know if anyone can get him their because he is so damn big and athletic and comes from that great wrestling background. I want to see what brock can do if the fight is on the feet for more than thirty seconds at a time i know has great power he has landed two punches so far in his career and both have dropped his oppenent. I think brock is still unproven but he will presents problems to anybody in the world and i dont know if couture is the guy to beat him, personally i think couture has a better chance at beating fedor than he does brock lesnar
by matt on Sep 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He did not say anything disrespectful at all toward Randy.He is arrogant,but you have to be to get in a cage and fight
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, Matt on Couture matching up better with Fedor.I know that Fedor is better skilled at mma ,but Brock is just a freak of nature ,but i think that Brock could have problems with Fedor .Styles make matches
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ive already said Randy doesnt stand a chane but its intresting how many are writing Randy off! if He beats Lesnar it as big as beating Fedor to me.
by Tony on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, for the newer fans: There is no such thing as a lucky submission.
by bostonmmajunkie on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha unless you are fighting Matt Lindland and he knocks himself unconscious.
by DirtyML on Sep 3, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya ok, you’re the same guy that claim catching a 25 pound king salmon ALL SKILL. ever thought people are lucky to be in the right place at the right time?… thus the concept of lucky sub :)
by kama kaze on Sep 3, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If randy’s labeled the underdog in this fight… im betting some serious coin on him period.
by BMO on Sep 3, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a laugh, he wins 1 fight in the ufc and he gets a title shot??! JOKE!
I think the guy has the ability to be hard to beat and maybe even be a champ, but unfortunately these days you dont have to earn a title shot you just get one!!
Randy IMO is getting too old, I hope he can show the skills that he will need to in order to beat brock, however it is doubtful!!! He was demolished twice by chuck and since then he hasnt fought the real top calibre of fighter, yeah ok, gonzaga is ok as is Tim sylvia, but they are not the best of the best, that has been proven since!!
Randy could be found wanting in this fight and I think Dana knows this, I also think Dana knows that time is on his hands in relation to getting the match he thinks will be the seller…Fedor v Brock. Its just unfortunate thats its going down this way!! Prove me wrong Randy please!!!!!!!!
by mo on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can’t help but think the fix will be on in this fight. Randy gets out of his contract (and goes on to fight Fedor), Dana gets the belt back to one of his fighters, UFC’s up and coming big name and big expense (Lesnar) is legitimized — all that has to happen is Randy has to lose and everybody is happy.
Too many bad things happen (to Dana and UFC) if Randy wins. Lesnar by KO in round one.
by Firebringer on Sep 3, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm something to pnder for sure….but Randy stuck a 3 fight deal remember that bit? So why wouldnt he just deal Dana to a one fight deal or 2 fights tops? I’m guessing Randy suspects he will school Brock then go on and beat he winner of Mir and Big Nog…Randy knows the only route to Fedor is to fight other fighters. You dont see Fedor waiing around for Randy do you?
by Chadx23 on Sep 3, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this will be interesting! I wish someone would pound Brocks a**!! He has no respect for other fighters and is way to cocky! This is a huge challenge for Randy.I hope he comes up with a great game plan and shocks the world again!If he dont then Bring in Fedor to put Brock in his place! As for Nog,I would much rather see Randy fight him.Its a better fight and I think Randy would win.Now what would be really interesting is Randy and Frank Mir.Mir already stated he would never fight Randy.
by Charlie Sharlow on Sep 3, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also they are suppose to be trying to get a fight between Fedor and Randy already .Trying to make it happen in ufc .So that would cancel that out
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thnk this fight will going to be desame as randleman vs couture before, as Lesnar will goping to outwrestle Couture for the 1st few minutes of the fight & randy will spend some minutes on his guard trying to neutralaize Lesnar’s ground & pound,then as fight goes on the technique & experience of Couture will going to show on the fight & Lesnar will be confuse about what he’s going to do,then couture will come out on top
i think it Ground & Pound victory by Couture (Round4)
by mad_drummer on Sep 3, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesnar Official Douchebag of the UFC says “Who gives a **** about Fedor?”
ROFL. Wow, just wow, EPIC sheltered life. E-P-I-C.
by PowerPuncher on Sep 3, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like the wrestling promo on Fedor ha
by obsessedwithsports on Sep 3, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock ncaa wrestler…Randy Olympic alternate wrestler big difference. Randy also knows submissions although not known for them he has the edge on Brock in submissions. In Randy’s last fight against Gonzaga Randy got his arm broken by a kick and still won. The fight will go to the ground du, two wrestlers…then what? GNP by Brock? Don’t think so. Randy work on bjj it isthe only way to stop the blonde yetti.
by scott on Sep 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was a Randy fan now I am not because os his sell out attitude, I hate Brock with a passion too, but it would be be fun to see Brock smash Randy’s face in. My dream Brock smashes Randy face then he leaves the cage trips breaks his femur in two places and never fights again.
by bigmcmac on Sep 3, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock just seems like too much of a bull to be beaten by anyone that isnt a submission wizard.
by c-war on Sep 4, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C-war that is true, but when Brock got into Mir’s ankle lock he tapped quickly, I’m thinking if Couture can rough him up a bit and punch his nose… Brock’s eyes will tear up and he’ll be in Couture’s world… Brock needs to overwhelm and KO Randy in the 1st round.
by THORAZINE on Sep 4, 2008 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he does not need to do that!!!
by belfort_fan on Sep 4, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if Randy loses to Brock, then the fight between Randy and Fedor is no longer needed. His possible loss will show that Randy is to old for real big fights.
by Vlad on Sep 4, 2008 3:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock claims he “made a statement” at his last fight??? Yah the statement was that he can’t finish a fight and that he is a jackass!! Randy is going to destroy him in the first round. As much as I hate randy, I think he is too much for Lesnar…unless brock hides a steel chair under the octagon or has the Undertaker do a run-in and give Randy the Tombstone Piledriver straight to hell! HAHAHAHAHAHA
by DaGrizzlyBear on Sep 4, 2008 5:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on Brock’s fight with Herring. I know he dominated him, but if he had taken his back and gotten his hooks in, he wouldve been able to flatten him out and pounded him out. Amateur mistake that even I know about, and I don’t even train on a pro MMA level. And all that rodeo BS at the end is so friggin childish. I thought I was watching that ass-clown Josh Koscheck after his mediocre fight against Diego. Brock’s new nickname should be “The Next Big Ass-Clown”.
by --utaptout-- on Sep 4, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Randy even be able to bodylock the F-5 machine?
That could be a huge limitation, since controlling the clinch is an important part of his game.
Also Randy is not going to be able to KO Brock, judging by the size of Lesnars neck id say he has a better then average chin, and the height advantage he has, Randy will be punching up all the time which takes some of the leverage off his shots.
I actually think Randy will be able to take Brock down easier then most people think, Brock’s strength and power is mostly located in his upper body, his legs are leaner then the rest of him, so his sprawl will be something which the Natural can work through.
Randy has to work to not get caught with any shots though, because he doesnt have the Nogueira guard, and once Randy gets knocked down he doesnt usually survuve the fight unlike Nogueira, Forrest or Fitch.
by rhys on Sep 4, 2008 7:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy is more of a greco roman wrestler, which utilizes clinch work and upper body manipulation combined with trips and sweeps to get takedowns (see dan hendersons takedown of anderson silva in the 1st round of their fight for an example). Randy doesn’t have the explosive shot that freestyle wrestlers like Koscheck, Sherk and GSP do. He might be able to take him down with a single or double, but I doubt he’ll do it with a body lock. Randy is an expert at pinpointing an opponents weakness and then exploiting it though, so I won’t count him out.
by --utaptout-- on Sep 4, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m very excited for this fight, but I still think Randy should have to fight Nog right now to unify the belt, Brock should fight a guy like Cain Velazquez, and Mir should fight Kongo. Lets face facts. Brock is unproven, and Mir got LUCKY against him. Mir was an inch away from coma in the Lesnar fight and Brock was stopped only because he tapped Mir on the back of the head when Mir turned away from him. Mir hasn’t done anything else worth mentioning in a very long time. I think this whole situation is unfair to Nog, and he’s being disrespected, even though he’s the most accomplished fighter out of all the names I just mentioned. The UFC knows what they are doing though, and this turn of events will be a HUGE draw, and probably alot bigger than my scenario. Btw, I still want to see a Fedor fight with Couture, and I hope it happens sometime soon. I still maintain that Fedor is the best HW in the world, and I would lkike to see him prove it.
by --utaptout-- on Sep 4, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
brock has balls, but he seems nervous. It seems that the UFC wants this sensationalism to compete with Affliction. Nog and Couture are co-champions. Brock will be easy for Couture. They should give Kongo to nogueira to bw fair. Not that Kongo is a joke just an easy match for Nog because of the ground game difference. Once it hits the ground it’ll be game over. which may affect Kongo’s stand-up – he’ll be worried. Nog should have learned not to continued boxing if it’s not going so well (after Tim Sylvia dominated the stand-up). The first time Kongo let a long limb astray nog will detach it and air mail it to brazil or france or somewhere other than on Kongo’s body
by patrickgamil on Sep 9, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
arlovski vs barnett will be intense though. Barnett has skillz. Arlovski is the best boxer in MMA today and has Sambo to boot
- hoe-li-PhuGG!
by patrickgamil on Sep 9, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy will wanna keep it standing or at least be on top.
Herring just turtled – boring and a bad strategy too!
After the initial bull rush, flying knee crap Randy will hit brock,
If they get close (brock’s forte), Brock will taste elbows over and under and knees to unexpected places. Brock will have to stay in that frenzy a much as he can cause once it goes tactical he’ll become hamburger
by patrickgamil on Sep 9, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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