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Randy Couture returns to fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 ... in Las Vegas

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It's official: Randy Couture fought Zuffa law and Zuffa law won ... kinda.

The 11-month legal drama that involved the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) and its disgruntled heavyweight champion, Randy Couture, has been resolved.

Thank the almighty ... whoever that may be.

In an official conference call today, UFC President Dana White announced that the 45-year-old Hall of Fame inductee had agreed to an out-of-court new multi-fight contract. And, as speculated, will return against Brock Lesnar in the main event at UFC 91 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada (not Portland, Ore.), in a five round fight for the heavyweight championship of the world.

The winner of the bout will be recognized as the heavyweight champion and fight the winner of the bout between UFC Interim Heavyweight Champion Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira and Frank Mir to unify the title sometime after their bout on December 27.

This is quite a departure -- and a monumental breakthrough -- from the ugly break up that first began when Couture faxed in his resignation from a South African movie set in late 2007, citing poor pay, lack of respect and a desire to fight Fedor Emelianenko -- a high-profile free agent who the UFC was unable to sign.

He has sat on the sidelines ever since, hoping that his legal team could find him a way out of his ironclad contract. Either he eventually realized that it was impossible or would just take too long, which is more than likely the genesis behind his sudden shift in strategy.

Regardless, it’s great news that both parties were able to put their differences aside and broker a truce. Now Couture is on the clock to get into fighting shape -- he hasn't competed since a technical knockout win over Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 74: "Respect" in August 2007.

Considering his age -- and upcoming opponent -- he’ll need to whack off any and all cage rust sooner rather than later. Lesnar is among the largest, strongest and most athletic fighters in the division. Couture, on the other hand, is not.

However, he has an uncanny ability to rise to the occasion on fight night, leveraging his experience, knowledge and skill to put together (and execute) winning gameplans. Put simply, Randy Couture has proven over time that he can never be counted out.

So even though it’s been nearly a year of turmoil and straight up ridiculousness ... nothing has really changed.

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Everyone give john his props since he was the only one in the whole world to know this ahead of time. He is the best!

by the_mexicutioner on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how the hell does lesnar get a title shot…? he got tuned by mir, and then just layed on top of herring for 15 minutes…what a joke! it should be nog vs couture. UFC’s getting too commercial now, startin to turn into WWE.

by kbar on Sep 2, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Forrest got a title shot, then might as well give Lesnar one. THe credability of how they award title shots has been shot for a while now. Might as well enjoy a blockbuster fight. THe only way to make the fight a 5 rounder is to have it for a title or interim title….dana just wants it to be 5 rounds, so I dont really have a problem with what he is doing.

I know the real champ is Nog anyway!

by john on Sep 2, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey John..is your last name Fertitta by any chance? haha!

by TabascoSAUCE on Sep 2, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo John.. they shitted on Nog with this whole fiasco.. I’m all for this fight.. but Nog is the guy holding the belt IMO.. I remember Serra pulled out of his fight with Hughes.. later that day.. Dana had set up GSP vs Hughes 3 for the interim WW title.. and we had Rich Franklin out for like 9months cuz of hand injury.. no interim MW title.. now Couture was offically out of hte UFC for like almost a year.. but he still retains his title.. who writes this shit.

by PhilQNY on Sep 2, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nog and Mir got screwed! Couture/Lesnar should be fighting for interim. BS!

by wAyNe on Sep 2, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have to say that it is very rare when i agree with john (no offense .lol) but i agree. at the end of the day it doesnt matter what nog and mir think..randy in brock will bring in an crap load of ppv buys and im excited to see it.

by tuffguy01 on Sep 2, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt, this is a total slap in Nog’s face. Doesn’t matter, he’ll have the last laugh when he submits whoever wins this fight.

by cmon on Sep 2, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cmon and Phil: I do agree that Nog will just beat whoever wins this fight anyway, and I dont think Randy can make it out the 3rd round against this heavy hitter anyway…so I am not even looking at it like its a title fight. Just a marketing ploy by the UFC to sell more ppv’s.

We all know the champ is Nog and he wont loose the title unless they get Fedor in the cage against him (which I doubt will happen). I can see Nog having the title for a couple of years

by john on Sep 2, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a joke. I’m glad Randy is back to fight Nog, Fedor and Lesnar and everything. All blockbuster fights for Zuffa, but IF Lesnar lays on top of Randy for 25 minutes and gets the title- it makes a complete mockery of the belt. Nog is definitely getting screwed but how does Mir feel beating someone who gets a title shot 1 fight later. Damn! It’s ALL about the benjamins and the UFC is going to make its biggest killing yet. All of the other MMA organizations are toast for the next few months. They don’t stand a chance. The ppv buys on these fights are going to be sick.

by DSmith on Sep 2, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well lets not forget that mir only recieved his title shot for winninig two in a row and mainly because one of those two was brock no hw has a legit win streak in UFC right now anyway so they might as well do it by who can bring in the most money and in interesting fights

by Patrick on Sep 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mir is the last person who should complain. He was saved by Mazzagatti.
Nog got screwed, but Nog beats any of these fighters any way so the end of the day…know one is taking Nog’s title

by john on Sep 2, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey DSmith was Hughes’ title run a laughing stock? Because it I remember it correctly he LNP’s all the time. Brock laid on HH because he was turtled with his face down, if he would have looked up once it was lights out, so don’t blame the pace of that fight on Lesnar.

by jay on Sep 2, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey jay- i dont know what you remember about hughes’ title reign, but it was not lnp ever.. he only decisioned sherk, and everything else (aside from mach and penn) was finished inside the first two rounds. unless, of course, there was another hughes who had a title run.

by sinister on Sep 2, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with everyone on a certain level: The structure and politics of the UFC are no doubt a mess, but one thing is a fact, we’ve got some good f’n fights comming up boys.

by Kimura by Fedor on Sep 2, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

by iagoof22 on Sep 2, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with John. Nog will beat both of these guys. Just like Thiago Silva and Loyota Machida will beat Evans, Lidell or Griffin – It’s just marketing gone mad.

by Rilly on Sep 2, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

first of all rilly..anyone can beat anyone on anyday..hense the serra st.pierre fight..thiago silva showed weekness’ and im waitin to see one from machida..liddell with one hit could end both of their careers..if heath herring was in this shape we he dropped nog and didnt finish him..he wud most certainly of finished him….frank mir was gettin anally raped for the first 3 minutes untill the inexperiened lesnar made a mistake..if lesnar mir was to happen again..bye bye mr mir…

P.S..anderson silva would beat all of them

by Xtreme Couture15 on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, any given fighters at any given time; anything can happen…

by Kimura by Fedor on Sep 3, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the reason they don’t have him jump right in against Nog to determine the true HW champ is because they are already involved with the TUF show and marketing the fight between Nog and Mir. unfortunately they can’t just cancel works in progress because Couture decides he’s ready to fight. they should’ve stripped Dandy of the title long ago and then they wouldn’t be in this fiasco

by The_Cannibal on Sep 3, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

White said at the end of the day they want to put on the biggest fights, the fights that fans want to see and this is that fight. They feel that it will be the biggest UFC fight to date, will do over 1 million PPV buys (White said “believe it or not, we do do research”) maybe even upwards of 1.5.

This isn’t about whether a guy deserves it or not. You can debate whether he does or doesn’t. He dominated Heath Herring who is a big time MMA veteran. Plain and simple, the UFC cares about putting on the fights that fans want to see. Only a small portion really give a shit about whether a guy deserved it or not. If he doesn’t deserve it he’ll show it during the fight won’t he? But at least it’s an exciting fight. I know that’s all that I care about.

by Anthony on Sep 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too. ufc insiders have also analized that gsp/penn 2 could do over 1 million buys and thats the fight everyone wants to see. i would rather see randy vs nog,like alot of people but the tuf shit already screwed that up. hell i was saying last year that randy shoud fight nog even before nog beat sylvia for the “interim title”. then randy pulled all his shenanigans and screwed alot of things up, but no matter what i think of randy’s charachter as of late doesnt have anything to do with his ability to fight, and i wanna see this fight go down and cant wait to see it. herring just beat kongo (although that fight could have went either way),and now that brock beat him, some are saying he is “mediocre” and if not for mazagotti’s blunder, brock could easily be 3-0 with wins over a former ufc champ and a top 15 hw in the world. i dont know that brock deseves a "title " shot, but i see alot of people picking him to win.

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i actually really like the way things are turning out as well. from both sides of it you have 2 good submission guys and two good wrestlers. Brock and mir aren’t great anywhere else but their respected things, well nog and randy have a pretty good all around game. then on top of that you have the winner of those fights fighting the other winner. Thats sick!

by shinbob on Sep 2, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you put it that way it is interesting. in the end we will see the best wrestler vs. the best submission fighter for the undiputed title and the UFC makes a KILLING!

I just read that Dana said he is expecting between 1-1.5 million ppv buys….THats amazing

Mania, please let me know when tickets go on sale because I want to at this historic event in person

by john on Sep 2, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don;t think this is much of a slap in the face to Nog as it may seem. In fact, they may have assured him the match-up he wanted in the end. They can lure Randy back and then unify the belts again and then Randy vs NOg can happen. A means to an end. Nog has been around long enough to understand this.

by PJJ on Sep 2, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one is giving frank mir a chance in any of this lol, but you guys forget he already beat lesnar, been there done that…

by brendan on Sep 2, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That fight was extremely close to being called and given to Lesnar. That being said, the reason no one gives him a chance is because he is fighting Nog, and no one thinks he can beat Nog.

by naturalshadow on Sep 2, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to say it but Mirr shouldnt be in this at all. Mazzagatti gave him that fight. Not only should he of called the fight, but he got brock off of him instead of calling it like he should of. Nog will beat Mirr. I feel that Lesnar would beat him now also. The scary thing is that Randy would be the easiest target for mirr right now. I agree Nog gets screwed out of this and I like how Dana is calling it a tournament for the title.

by ASR on Sep 7, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why WAMMA is pushing for some kind of regulation. That and many other hidden agendas. The UFC isn’t always objective when it comes to who deserves or has earned a title shot. They let money and ratings help be the deciding factor.

Not saying I agree with one or the other, I’ve just accepted this is how its going to be for a while. Everyone wants to a piece of the pie. That pie being the UFC.

by DaneJa!260 on Sep 2, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck WAMMA. They are a joke. Their head guy knows nothing about MMA, he used to be in the FBI or something. And Bill Goldberg? The guy cant even call a match correctly.

by the_mexicutioner on Sep 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WAMMA! Thats a joke! Was WAMMA objective with Fedor, a guy who hadnt fought a credible HW for a long time! And Tim who was coming off a loss to Nog! What made Fedor/Tim a deserving fight for the WAMMA title DaneJa!260?

by JV on Sep 3, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me one site…just one legit site that has someone other than Fedor as #1 HW. You can complain about that all you want, he’s still #1 and if WAMMA only has #1 and a toss up for the contender…how can you blame them?

Even after he lost to Fedor and looked terrible at doing it as well, Sylvia is still ranked #4 by SherDog and #5 by Weekly. Sherdog had Tim ahead of Josh & Andrei and Weekly had him #6 & below them. At that point, its so close its a toss up & what comes down to who is ready to fight. So when a company has #1 and #4/#6 under contract to fight, what are your choices? Regulation.

My intentions aren’t even to defend or attack either WAMMA or UFC. I’m purely neutral. No matter what, everything is opinionated and no one is right or wrong. But I do think you are an idiot. Haha.

by DaneJa!260 on Sep 3, 2008 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how exactly did mir tune him bro? the fight i watched he got lucky as f*ck when he not only got knocked down by a punch, and taken down at will mir just caught him with a lucky submission LUCKY! i dont think he deserves a shot at a belt but i see why they’re doing it and i also see the mir fight differently

by randy murders on Sep 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

call it whatever you want man, but Mir won. He knew what he had to do entering the fight and he got that done. 9 times out of 10, I believe Mir beats Lesnar RIGHT NOW. In a year, come back to me. But right now, Mir will beat Lesnar just like he already did.

by Anthony on Sep 2, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea he did..and guess wat..hell never make that mistake again..jus like neither will gsp underestimate someone..wanna a future result..
lesnar mir 2…..lesnar wins via first 15 second murder

by Xtreme Couture15 on Sep 3, 2008 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LIVE WITH IT.

by Lycan on Sep 2, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah really, apparently fedor caught tim with a LUCKY punch also, jackson caught lidell with a LUCKY punch, its called skill, countering, mobility, and lots of training, theres no luck about it, this isnt gambling

by brendan on Sep 2, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luck can be involved. I think if Serra fought GSP 100 times from today, Serra would get murdered 100 times, just like the 2nd fight. It wasn’t really so much that Serra was lucky the first time, but it was definately a fluke.

by naturalshadow on Sep 2, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rubbish. A fluke!?!? A cross on the button is a fluke now????

by Rilly on Sep 2, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It just would never happen again. It is not like the second fight was close. I think Serra was anally bleeding after the raping that was the second fight.

by naturalshadow on Sep 4, 2008 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah with PPV’s every month. They should do more Fight Nights and get some more matches out there for the fighters.

by DirtbagHtr on Sep 2, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Props mania on having this “news” before the UFC site -

However, the “news” is BS. This just reiterates how the ufc only cares about cash and a fighters marketability, not ability.

But then again if BJ can side step an entire division, why can’t Brock. I just don’t see the point of having a belt… “I won’t the most popular fighter contest, I’m not the best, but people like me…”

Life really is just like high school

by Arnold on Sep 2, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doupt, how wins over Jens and Joe get you a shot at the welterwieght title I don’t know.

This kind of shit will bring in big buck now, but down the road will become quite costly.

by Ro-J on Sep 2, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude, it’s all about making the best fights? At the end of the day isn’t that what we want as fans? C’mon! Quit whining.

by Anthony on Sep 2, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its because bj is the prodigy and the prodigy is a unusually gifted or intelligent person that is prolly the real reason on how he side stepped anyone its all in the nick name …… prodigy rush spyder (forrest and his clients are working on his ) and the natural / nogs nickname

by wm133 on Sep 2, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s called Business!It’s not always about being fair, especially when there’s money involved.

by Macho Bullshit on Sep 2, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it’s just business, then don’t pretend there is a “belt” or a title fight. If it’s just to make a ton of money then call it a prize fight.

by Arnold on Sep 2, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not true.

Tim had the belt for ages and look how that turned out. Whole division is wrecked. Maybe a popularity contest is the best way to go.

by Jas on Sep 2, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF How Dare Dana Cancel the Portland Oregon show?? That was my first show I would have been able to attend and it was going to headline Randy !! If I see Dana I’m going to slap him

by BLOodyMEss on Sep 2, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!!!! What a time to be an MMA fan! DAM! this is a dream matchup! Now I cant wait for this to happen! I think Brock will be too big and strong for Randy. But I do think Randy will beat Nog.

by JV on Sep 2, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS IS NOT NO DREAM, BROCK IS NOTHING COMPARED TO RANDY, AND EVERY ONE THINKS THAT BROCK WILL WILL, RANDY WILL MAKE IT A MMA FIGHT BROCK WILL TRY TO TRY TO MAKE IT A WRESLING MATCH.

by MIchael on Sep 2, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you screaming? or is your caps lock on? It may not be a dream matchup for you, but it is to me!

by JV on Sep 2, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JV, Micheal either has headphones on or is deaf so he’s typing in CAPS.

by THORAZINE on Sep 2, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!

by JV on Sep 3, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MIchael…both of lesnars matches..he has shown that he could strike…ask mir…ive nevere seen someone get hit more times in a one minute span than he did..he won cuz the worst ref ever..stopped the match cuz mir turned his head and got hit…randy is a beast tho..and if u dont think brock is workin on his all around mma skills..

by Xtreme Couture15 on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree JV, I just can’t see Randy’s fighting style working against Lesner. Lesner is just to big and strong for Randy to hold him on the cage and beat on him. But if Randy does win, he will beat Nog. Randy will not get caught in a submission, no way. Randy will beat Nog down.

by Rubberman on Sep 3, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree Rubberman! Submissions is all Nog has! And Randy should have enough experience to not get caught!

by JV on Sep 3, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hail JOhn! The real Nostradamus!!

by "TheNegation" on Sep 2, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awsome job John, you told us a week ago this was going down. I am excited. I am a huge Brock fan and said from day 1 he would be champ in less than 2 years, I wasn’t expecting this. Actually I do not think he is ready for this. I don’t think he can go 5 rounds. He needs to take Randy down and keep throwing punches till the ref stops it. But if Randy lives long enough Brock will get very tired. I like them both and happy to see Randy back, would like to see Brock win, but think Nogueira is the better of the 4.

by iagoof22 on Sep 2, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tHank you boys, all I ask for is a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

anyt8me boys, just remember next time you break my balls for Hijacking a thread!

by john on Sep 3, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Bad ass would it have been for them all to fight on one card .Randy vs Lesnar- Mir vs Nog. To set up the heavy weight title fight Even more ppv by’s Dana Should have thought of that.

by DBG on Sep 2, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar is a physical freak, not just in terms of his size, strength and speed (which are all but impossible to replicate in a practice gym), but also his cardio and stamina. I don’t think Randy lasts 5 rounds with Brock, but Brock won’t have any problem fighting that long.

by PW on Sep 2, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AWSOME!!!

Lesnar is going to throw him around like a Rag Doll!!

by Fokman on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar wins and Mir Lesnar II happens for the belt in 09. Stranger things have happened

by thetuf75 on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really did not think that this would be a 5 round fight but I sure as hell wont complain. The real champion is Nogueira so I will just be happy that I get to see 5 rounds instead of 3.

This match up is just awesome. It apeals more then the Fedor fight because I dont think Randy stands a chance with the Russian but because Brock is so new to the sport and Raandy is Captain “Eperience” it makes for a very interesting match up. This is a bigtime match up and I cant wait to see it. Randy will have not fought in over a year and at some point Cage Rust has to become an issue. Randy has had trouble throughout his career with bigger wrestlers and Brock is the biggest of the Biggest and is 1 fast Mofo!

I like Brock in this one. I hope I get some nice odds because I have to assume that brock is the underdog.

Sad to say, I dont think we will ever get to see Nog vs. Randy and its a shame. Randy might loose to brock and Nog will beat Mir for sure so we could end up seeing Nog vs. Brock.

INTERESTING but before the greedy old pig retires, I would like to see him fight Nogueira because I really dont think Randy couuld ever defeat Big Nog!

by john on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way that Randy beats Big Nog is by decision. He would have to utilize the clinch and keep Nog up against the fence.

As far as the odds go for Couture/Lesnar, I am seriously starting to think that they are going to open up at pretty much even. I would not be surprised to see them both open at -110. I don’t see either fighter getting anywhere near the +150 range. If they do, that’s where my money would be.

If Lesnar fights like he did previously (getting sub’d and then not finishing Herring), I see Randy pulling something out his rear and submitting Brock given 25 minutes to do so.

Logical endings to this fight are:
Couture by decision
Lesnar by TKO
Lesnar by Decision
Couture by Submission

I would actually rank them in that order, but possibly swapping 1 and 2. All things being equal, as of this moment, I really think that I would put my money on Brock. He is too powerful and quick for a 45 year old. But then again, you can’t put anything past Randy the master gameplanner.

SideNote: BetUs is now offering Props for the Evans/Liddell fight. This is the first time they have offered props on an mma fight. YOu pick the winner and the round and the payout is SWEET! Chuck 2nd round KO???

by ViolentMike on Sep 2, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see odds opening up with Brock as the favorite. I guess we’ll have to see, but with the huge size difference, Randy’s age, and the year lay off I can’t see him coming in as the favorite.. Personally I hope Randy comes in at -200 or more so I can place a bet on him, cause if he somehow pulls this W out of his ass I’ll be utterly amazed. I don’t ever count out Randy, I’ll be rooting for him come fight night, but I know the second I see the staredown and the size difference I’ll be thinking “Ok Couture, how the F*** are you gonna pull off this miracle?”

by O damn he got caught on Sep 2, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m done thinking… Here’s my order:

Lesnar by TKO
Couture by decision
Lesnar by Decision
Couture by Submission

by ViolentMike on Sep 2, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CHUCK in the 2nd!

VM: I think its going to be very hard for Randy to make it to a decision. He buckled to Chuck liddell’s shots, and Brocks Ground n pound is going to just be too Brutal for a 45 year old man to hanlde. When I thought it was a 3rd fight, i gave Couture a good shot at winning a decision, but I dont think he can last 25 minutes with the massive Lesnar. IMO Herring is a much tougher Heavyweight, he has taken HUge shots from Fedor and Cro Cop (before Buckling), but beside the chuck fight, Randy has not truly tasted power, not the power that Brock will Bring.

I give Randy a better shot at submitting Lesnar then winning a decision. When Brock wants to take you down to the mat, you gho down. THere isnt a takedown defense in the world that could keep the fight standing against that M<onster. Randy will be on his back taking a beatin. Question is, can he catch Brock in a sub from his back and finish the fight.

I say No, Brock wins via TKO (Brutal Ground n Pound) that 45 year old men just cant take.

by john on Sep 2, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spot on analysis and newsflash, John. I almost have to wonder if throwing Randy in with Lesnar isn’t Dana’s way of punishing Randy for his year of insolence and lawsuits.

by PW on Sep 3, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

john, Randy having trouble with big guys is OLD news. He was just a wrestler when he fought Josh and Ricco. Tim and GG are BIG guys and he didn’t have a problem with them now than he has rounded out his game.
 Randy is the REAL champ, NOT Nog (you have to beat the champ to be the champ). What did Nog do besides beat Sylvia (who can’t win a fight now unless his opponent has a broken hand) while taking a beating the WHOLE fight except the last minute. I don’t think Nog can beat Randy. Randy has better stand-up (he was out striking Tim and Nog was getting pounded). Nog struggled to get Sylvia down, I don’t think he will take Randy down. Randy fought submission ace Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza to a draw in a grappling match and he hasn’t been submitted since he VERY early days.
 
I’m just as impressed with Brock as you are, but he is still pretty green. HH was a gauranteed win for Brock and the UFC knew it (if HH got dominated by O’Brian, Brock would crush him). Brock might be a bad match-up for Randy because he won’t have the big advantage of supperior wrestling, like he usually does. I’m still going to go with Randy on this one though, because I’m sure he had some say in the matter during negotiations as to who he would fight. Being that he wants to fight Fedor, one would think he feels he has a GOOD game plan to beat the INEXPERIENCED Lesnar and that is why he took the fight. No one gave Randy a chance against Tim, yet he knew he would beat him, because he trained with him and owned him. GG isn’t quite as big as Brock, but he is every bit as dangerous, if not more so. I wouldn’t bet the house on Randy in this fight, yet I think he will shock people again. Oh and Props for the early news on this fight.

by Gord on Sep 3, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gord, you make some good points but I disagree with a few. Randy struggles with big Strong WRESTLERS, Tim Sylvia and GOnzaga dont know a drop of wrestling.

Nog is the real champ, Randy wants no parts of him, and NMog has better stand up then Randy. Only think Randy has over Nog is a clinch game.

I am not saying I dont give Randy a chance vs. Brock, I am just saying that I think Brock will beat him. GOtta pick 1 or the other and I am going with Brock.

Its all pointless anyway because at the end of the day, Nog will be champion

by john on Sep 3, 2008 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!! what an awesome championship match brock n randy will be. 3 fights for brock. that sounds more like the wec challengers to urijah fabers’ belt

by deuce 4 on Sep 2, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats the only thing he knows how to do

by MIchael on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We want Fedor…well this will do until then…

by Shanny on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea fedor will own all these guys if they can ever arrange that…

by brendan on Sep 2, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zomg this is awesome!
Man, sad day for all the UFC haters, hopin he’d end up somewhere else.

I really hope UFC gets Fedor now, they have the bait!

by ShaiZ on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Randy must be feeling pretty DUMB about his decision to fax his resignation from the set up Scorpion King 2 (LOL). He did so because he was complaining about money and he wanted to fight Fedor. Fast forward one year later and he lost money on legal bills and by not fighting for a year. Also, that Fedor fight, if it does happen, its happening in the UFC.

Randy, why did you go senile?

by ViolentMike on Sep 2, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so true.

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ViolentMike, Randy’s situation could also be looked at as smart! The UFC is giving Randy a new, more money fight! So the year off with legal fees doesnt matter if he gets 3 more fights with bigger money! Plus Randy is a big draw in PPV #’s so that will also add to his pocket. And fights with Lesnar, Nog and maybe Fedor, Randy retires a very wealthy man!

by JV on Sep 2, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kim’s jaw being wired shut for a while helped him come to his senses. I suppose Jacob will be tucking his tail between his legs soon enough as well.

by DSmith on Sep 2, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, that got a smile out of me. Haha!

by Sean_M on Sep 2, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too, funny stuff

by James S on Sep 2, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i guess kim cant be counted on to be the one put food on the table, so randy had to buck -up. as far as tito goes, jenna has more money than him and probably wears the pants (when she keeps them on) in the family.

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DSmith, that was some funny sh*t!!!

by JV on Sep 2, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

she may wear the pants, but i bet they’re crotchless

by axhed on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

VM. lost time can never be made up, but I’m guessing Couture can make a couple of extra million more in these next 2 fights than with his old contract. I’m guessing White would really like to see Lesnar win and keep the title in the UFC for awhile. Knowing Couture he personally wants to fight the best, so it’s Lesnar and Nog and #3 fight is anyone the UFC will think has the best shot at beating Couture to keep the title in the UFC (assuming Couture can win 3 in a row). If Couture wins 3, he’s off to fight Fedor.

I was very disappointed in Couture, he handled it all very badly. I also believe Couture could’ve legally walked from his contract in October, but Zuffa’ went hard after Couture and would’ve tied matters up in court for years. Couture’s not getting any younger and the UFC was losing their heavyweights to Affliction, hence the new deal.

A great few fights win or lose… has a way of erasing a bad past. I just read Couture’s book and that guy is a lying, cheatin’ dog in his marriages.. lol. I will never see Couture in the same light again, but there are certain qualities in the guy I still greatly admire… so I’m going to just enjoy the fights and root for Couture against Lesnar, and the only heavyweight I would root for over Couture would probably be Nog.

by THORAZINE on Sep 2, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would he be feeling dumb? He’s getting more money (probably a LOT MORE) and it looks like Dana will make the Fedor fight happen. If Dana does bend his rules and signs Fedor for a one fight deal, then Randy will be getting what he really wanted, a little respect from the UFC.

by Gord on Sep 3, 2008 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy is going to put him on his back, Brock is going to get owned…

by Shanny on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

by Thrasher on Sep 2, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, not going to happen!

by LJ on Sep 2, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RANDY, RANDY, RANDY!!!

by O damn he got caught on Sep 2, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh hellz yeah!!!

by duece0069 on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally!!!As long as he doesn’t get poked in the eye before the fight it might be interesting to watch

by CYCOMYKO on Sep 2, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like money is the root of all evil.

by JimmieGreens on Sep 2, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure Nog is thrilled.

by the_mexicutioner on Sep 2, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK!~@ WHY NOT PORTLAND??SSDF? asj’fklar45k

by sbud on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So randy automatically gets hit title back? Bullshit!

by Ian on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope, he will be stripped. He hasnt defended the belt in over a year. He will not be the champ on his return.

by thetuf75 on Sep 2, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it says for the title

by Ian on Sep 2, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to another site, the winners of lesnar-couture and mir-nog will fight to unify the title.

by Joe Smith on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds logical.

by the_mexicutioner on Sep 2, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds messy

by DSmith on Sep 2, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

read the article dummy

by rob on Sep 2, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He never lost it.

by GoColts on Sep 2, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about nog?

by bird-dog on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nog will have to wait for the outcome. And I’m assumin’ he’s gonna dispose of MIr pretty quickly.

by "TheNegation" on Sep 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brock will make Randy his bitche

by GoColts on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brock is the real deal

by dtrain on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahaahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahaha

by linx on Sep 2, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhaha HA

by DBG on Sep 2, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahe

by McArthur on Sep 2, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA HA HE HE HEE HA HU HA HA HI HAY…and I thought my jokes were bad..

by Lycan on Sep 2, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BwaHhahahahaahHEEEEH—HHEEEEHAWWWWWW_HEHAWWWWWWWWWW!Donkey Laugh!

by DBG on Sep 2, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, this is a huge slap in the face to Big Nog (and Mir).

by WebGarden on Sep 2, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would hate to see Lesnar just destroy him. Would make it that much harder to get Fedor.

by WB on Sep 2, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would also make it a moot point.

by Amishphysicist on Sep 2, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

couture will take the belt back and then beat emelianenko, and then he will star in scorpion king 3. a great year all in all, except for the urine that he will produce onscreen. ha.

by Hardcase on Sep 2, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what this now means for Mir or Nog? Interesting to say the least

by yomomma on Sep 2, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Read the articles. Mir and Nog will fight in December with the winner fighting the Couture/Lesnar winner for the undisputed title sometime in the first half of 2009.

by Adam on Sep 2, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe that Brock Lesnar will outweigh Randy Couture by up to 50 pounds in this fight (Randy will weight about 230, Lesnar about 280 come fight time)so keeping an expierenced wrestler that outweighs you by 50 pounds on your back is something that is going to be extremely hard for Randy to do. This fight is tough, but yet, if Randy can avoid the takedown and test the chin of Brock Lesnar than something can happen in favor of Randy.

But right now, I am taking Lesnar. He is bigger, faster, stronger and younger than Randy Couture. The only way that Randy can win is KO or a flash submission.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 2, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Seems like he’s gonna have to take this match as a striker and not a wrestler. The big pink baby is just gonna have too much muscle to overpower and pound out.

Methinks Randy’s gonna have to take some matador lessons or something to avoind the charges of Lesnar. It’s gonna be nuts.

by Amishphysicist on Sep 2, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar is less of a takedown artist and has more of a bulldozing style. I don’t know how much technical wrestling I’ve seen from him. I know better than to doubt Randy and I don’t have much to say about the skill level of Lesnar for obvious reasons. I see Lesnar using his size/weight advantage more than anything else in his fights. Everything else makes him look like a panicked kid in there. It’s a very close call, but I’m pulling for Randy.

by DSmith on Sep 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

While I do agree with you his MMA takedown have been much more of a run-threw or as you put it a bulldozing style but to go through an entire NCAA wrestling career going 106 – 5, he must have some actual collegite wrestling technique. We just have not seen him apply it to MMA, and why bother at this point, who the hell is going to stop that bull rush!?!?

by Steven on Sep 2, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How the hell do you expect Randy to avoid takedowns for 25 minutes? When Koscheck decides he wants his opponent on the ground, they go to the ground, no questions asked. That goes double for Lesnar. Randy’s best hope is that Lesnar spears him right through the cage and the match ends up a no contest.

by PW on Sep 3, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Koscheck DOESN’T take his opponents to the ground at will, when they are a great wrestler like GSP and Brock won’t either against a great wrestler like Randy.

by Gord on Sep 3, 2008 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nogueira and Mir will still fight at UFC 92 for the interim heavyweight title then the winners of both bouts will unify the titles in early-2009.

by Fokman on Sep 2, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How Bad ass would it have been to see them all on one card,Rand vs Lesnar-nog vs Mir to set up the Title match!

by DBG on Sep 2, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its good to hear that randy is back . let the destruction of any fighter in front of him begin
fueled buy the last few months of not competing im sure he’s hungry for some blood .
and maybee dreams do come true (we mite see fedor and him fight in our life time ) but a nightmare just awoke for lesnar . thanks zuffa for realizing what everyone already wanted.

by deadgrr on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m a huge Brock fan but how is he going to fight for title already? He’s 1-1 in UFC, i don’t understand that one.

by Brian on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell happened to Portland?

I can understand them wanting to get this show in an area where they can charge tons for the tickets. I just hope they still plan on doing a show in Portland.

by A Lynch on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nog always knew that his title was Interim. With the return of Randy he keeps his belt but he has to fight to reunify the belts and then possibly if he beats Lesnar and then possible Nog or Mir, his last fight of his contract could be against Fedor for his retirement match. Lets see what happens.

by dandeman on Sep 2, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah it seems to be f*ck Nog & Mir. How is Dana going to hype a fight that shouldn’t happen? Randy should fight the winner of Mir vs Nog to have an undisputed HW champion then either a rematch with Mir vs Lesnar (not that he deserves it but who else?) or a contender fight with Randy vs Lesnar? I don’t get there strategy at this point with TUF and Nog?

by sycboi on Sep 2, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is going to be a good fight we will see if randy’s experience will help him out becuase lesnar is a freak of nature. I hope randy wins but i dont think he is going to be able to deal with the size of brock, if brock wins i wouldnt mind seeing brock vs. fedor

by matt on Sep 2, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the sickening. Nog should have gotten the first crack at the old man. Couture has been ducking Nog since the King of Kings tournament. He should have been stripped then made to fight the winner of Nog-Mir if he won against lesnar. Now he is gonna line his pockets with cash, get his ass beat by fedor and retire while people will be on his nuts for “doing the right thing.” This is just disgusting.

by NameNotRequired on Sep 2, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Still champ then why dont they ask mir to step aside,and have Randy Vs Nog- Nog is getting shafted,in my opinion. Great to see Randy back though,but i dont see him beating Lesnar,That being said it would be great to see him spank lesnar in there fight after lesnars antics.lol

by DBG on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THis is such BS. Randy and Lesnar should be fighting for a #1 contender spot. Randy left, he should have been stripped of the title. I’m sure Nog is a little pissed, but I wonder how Mir feels about this!?

by VNDK8 on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you 100% VNDK8

by thetuf75 on Sep 2, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man this will (hopefully) be a great fight, but randy will lose. he cant handle a gorilla like lesnar. and now what happens with the HW belt? brock gets it with a record like that. brock can take that title, cool with me. but now? really?? whats big nog have to say, id like to hear that

by medecine balls on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I see this fight with Lesner and Couture going something similar to Barnett vs Couture did… Historically Randy struggles with good big men who have decent ground games. If he is unable to do anything with Brock in the clinch (where Greco Roman Wrestlers are supposed to shine most) then he will be in for a LONG LONG night…

by Tommy Bradford on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally one of Dana White’s “big announcements” was actually a big deal.

by Joe Smith on Sep 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

brock sucks at mma, he does not deserve this fight, i guess randy is going to show him a real mma fight.

by MIchael on Sep 2, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s fought three times. give him a break.
Oh and I bet you wouldnt tell him that to his face.

by MMAMaSS on Sep 2, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is awesome, but how can Lesnar get a title shot after only 1 win in the UFC?

by Canadam on Sep 2, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he sells tickets and ppv buys! Why else?

by J Willy on Sep 2, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only PPV they’ve had this year to break 600k buys is… ufc81 which had brock on it.

by kitsunex on Sep 2, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then the other organizations up and died and the UFC live happily ever after. THE END!

by J Willy on Sep 2, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay,

You know I don’t mind seeing competition.
But I like all the best to be in one org.

I don’t even really like affliction.
I hate the ring, and their main focus is their T-shirts and they keep booking metal bands.

They’re next PPV is going to do half the #’s of thier last one.

by ShaiZ on Sep 2, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, Brock will be the first man to be both WWE and UFC Heavyweight champion.

by Bill Maher on Sep 2, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Randy has to create a gameplan that will keep this sasquatch thinking twice and he must defend Lesnar’s takedown. He has to be quick and control the pace of the fight. i dont think Randy will get ko’d like everybody thinks. He must get through the 1st round

by carnage on Sep 2, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar does not deserve a title shot, but Randy is what… 15-8? Couture says he can handle the weight differance… I really doubt that.

by Enniskillen on Sep 2, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just want to see brock knocked out. Cotoure won’t do that.

by DBG on Sep 2, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea i don’t really get that either, but couture is back man and thats AWSOME, all us fans will finally get to see the dream fights we’ve been so desperatly waiting on! I hope couture whoops brock lesnar and redeems his title back! It would be Amazing 4 time heavyweight champion of the world. Brock should not get a title shot, but who do they put against couture Wverdum? or kongo maybe…

by Sir_alan on Sep 2, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BROCK IS A beast, but Randy has taken beasts down before. I think as long as Brock doesn’t land a power punch to Randy’s face like he did Heath Herring, then Randy will win this fight. I dont agree with what Randy has been doing the past year, but I still think Randy wins this fight if he can avoid getting nailed in the face.

by Chadx23 on Sep 2, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sylvia? Not really a beast more like a member of the Munsters or whatever that show was… Liddell is a monster and he hasn’t dealt with him well.

by Enniskillen on Sep 2, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually he has dealt with liddell smart one!!!

by belfort_fan on Sep 2, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the last two times they fought?

by Enniskillen on Sep 2, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well if u look at your first comment u did not say the last two times they fought you said that randy has not dealt with him. besides everyone can see randy is obviously better at heavy weight.

by Wanderlei Fan on Sep 3, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks wanderlei fan… WE are obviously more well educated than this guy..lol

by belfort_fan on Sep 3, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Maher WWE is fake! WHO walks around saying they were the champ when it’s staged and premeditated.
They gave him the WIN. WE’RE NOT TALKING AFTER SCHOOL SPECIAL HERE!

by carnage on Sep 2, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why couldnt we have resoved this 10 months ago…..that would have been great

by Rylo on Sep 2, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love to watch Brock pound opponents, but remember your history lessons, can’t lose faith in Capt. America.

by Capt. Doug on Sep 2, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Personally i think the brock vs, Couture fight should be a number one contender fight for Noguera’s title.. i mean couture’s been out title contention for a lil over a year and a new king has been crowned but w.e its Dana whites decision. I just don’t think that brock should have a title shot just yet..

by Sir_alan on Sep 2, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

randy wasted a year of his life. hopefully now, all the other fighters and the fans relize that if you sign a contract (especially with zuffa) then you need to honor it…….btw does’nt anyone read the thread before posting anymore? it clearly states that the winner of brock/randy would fight the winner of the mir/nog fight for the undisputed title. randy was never stripped (and wont be or else it wouldnt be a 5 rnd TITLE fight as mentioned in the thread) and nog has always been listed as the interim champ. wether you fell its right or wrong, thats the way it is. at least well get to see alot of great upcoming HW fights. the UFC’S hw division doesnt look so thin any more now does it? you have 2 all time greats in nog and couture and a good mix of top veterns (mir, werdum,gonzaga,kongo,herring) along with some great up and comers (brock,valasquez, and shane carwin). affliction WILL fold soon, so im sure they will get arlovski back and maybee even fedor (very iffy).

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Lesanr’s got a great chance to win this fight. I’d actually be pretty surprised if he lots. Randy better start working on a number of things, chief among them, leg submissions against a stronger opponent.

I’ll be cheering for Randy, though. If he loses, there is no wind in the sails of the Fedor-Couture match up, and less reason for any other promoter to make it happen. I’d much rather see Fedor rip Couture to pieces than watch Lesnar dry hump and hammer fist a wadded up Couture.

by clayton on Sep 2, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s going to be a ‘cage match,’ get it?

by the_mexicutioner on Sep 2, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i tell all u guys right now fedor will prolly never be in the UFC as much as i hate to say it and will never happen all because of that think headed jack*** Dana fedor will prolly end up in Dream

by bigsmoke on Sep 2, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is not Dana White’s fault, that is Fedor’s decision to keep a money grubbing manager as his business associate. I definatley can’t blame Dana for not wanting to partner up with that goon and build a stadium. That just sounds utterly ridiculous.

by O damn he got caught on Sep 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy will probably look like his wife (after her first fight) after Brock smothers him for 5 rounds.

by Enniskillen on Sep 2, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF!!! I was excited to go to this one in Portland. I guess if they give us GSP vs Penn, I will feel better.

by LJ on Sep 2, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know that Brock will sell PPV but this fight is a joke. Im happy to see Couture back in the cage but to give Brock a title shot after 2 fights in the UFC with a 1-1 record is a farce.

by UKmmaBOY on Sep 2, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It does suck, but it’s better than them throwing cans at him…

by Amishphysicist on Sep 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is a sad day for mma and a sad day for all the fighters in the ufc who have busted their balls putting together winning streaks only to be denied the right to fight for the belt because of TUF or extended rivalries. dana is shitting on all his dedicated fighters giving a title fight to someone on a 1 fight winstreak and has three career mma fights. i guess mir and nog are really happy about this. in the end this is strictly for the money.

all that being said, i hope that couture asked for this fight, similar to how he asked for timmy but i don’t see a similar result. Lesnar is going to have over 60 pounds on couture and won’t be standing punching bag with a bad back.

also, you can look at it like a mini heavyweight grandprix, hopefully in the end randy emerges on top as the soul winner and maybe just maybe we’ll get to see captain america vs the last emperor, a fight everyone wants to see and a fight everyone deserves to see.

by Erdo on Sep 2, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god its actually happening. well this sucks.

by belfort_fan on Sep 2, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great all I can do now is sit tight and hope to God Randy has something up his sleeve again. which I am sure he dose.

by Wanderlei Fan on Sep 2, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey wanderlei fan… it was those somoas

by belfort_fan on Sep 2, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Randy will do any ring anouncing before his fight

by bassboy on Sep 2, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope so. he’s one of the best.

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder what the figher’s salaries will be for this fight?!

by wAyNe on Sep 2, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can’t say I like this…
Brock get a single win over a mediocre HW and automatically gets a title shot???
Lesnar hardly deserves a title shot…(2-1 / 1-1 UFC)Mir certainly should get a shot before Lesnar! Hell just about everyone in the UFC/HW division deserves it more than this Johny-come-lately.
Nog IS the Interim Champ, what happens to his pseodo title?
Guess it’s got little or nothing to do with merit, just about $$$.
This is obviously not something intended to appeal to the hard-core MMA fan, more of an attempt to draw out the cash of the casual fan.
Randy’s the man!…my favorite MMA fighter, but this is a joke!
I’ve bought every UFC PPV for the last 4 or 5 years + watching every MMA program on free tv and subscribe to the FightNetwork.
I am,in short, an ardent fan of MMA…but I hereby serve notice that I WILL NOT buy this fight.
And in fact, if Lesnar ends up as the UFC HW Champ, I will no longer even watch the UFC as it will indicate to me that they are intent on morphing themselves into some sort of WWE/WWF show.
And when those “casual fans” desert you for the next bandwagon they fancy, don’t come crying to me, I’ll have moved my loyalties to legit shows.

by talkman on Sep 2, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

…I hate to admit it, but I agree.

This is no different than Shamrock/Kimbo.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

by introvert on Sep 2, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!! It’s exactly the same as Shamrock/Kimbo!! Except for the fact that Brock fights top competition and Kimbo doesn’t. Oh, and Couture is the champ and Ken Shamrock hasn’t beat a decent opponent in 5 years. And then there’s that little issue regarding EXC and their inability to turn a profit. The only thing wrong with this fight is that they didn’t strip Randy of the title first.

by Joe Smith on Sep 2, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I’ll have moved my loyalties to legit shows”
Like EliteXC

by sinister on Sep 2, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who are you that people would come crying to? name the other “legit” shows that your loyalties will lie with and maybee that will give purpouse to this rant.

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you want to give my rant dolphins?

by talkman on Sep 2, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be “porpoise”.

by medecine balls on Sep 2, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My retort wuz on "porpoise".

by talkman on Sep 2, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dolphins? he. he. i spelled it right. any way like the post above who else elitexc, affliction, adreneline? tell me who and i will tell you how fast they are going to fold.

by b.w. on Sep 2, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

While you did spell many words correctly, purpose was not one of them.

by Joe Smith on Sep 3, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, it’s up to you if you wanna watch it or not. No one’s stoppin’ you anyway…

by "TheNegation" on Sep 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way, It will set up a huge payday for Fedor, if he fights in the UFC. Obviously, if Randy loses, the Fedor thing is dead for him. If Brock wins, I would have to guess that Fedor would want to fight him. It will be interesting, for sure.

by Jrandolph on Sep 2, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very disrespectful to the HW veterans who work their tails off… IMO, Brock needed a few more wins before giving him a title shot.

This travesty will only give even more fuel to Affliction, to build themselves as the real deal in HW MMA…

by ARodOfIron on Sep 2, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doesn’t matter anyway.

The UFC can sugarcoat this fight all they want…it’ll be a snoozer.

And, the only reason it’s happening is to ti Randy up so Affliction can’t book the Randy/Fedor fight.

Dana can say Randy is the #1 guy and Fedor is just fighting “cans.”

This is the classic case of a company paying to screw a rival company…nothing more, nothing less.

Randy’s over the hill and will lose this fight.

by introvert on Sep 2, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I couldnt agree with you more, they probably figur randy showed his true colors and if he left in the past he can do it again cause hes not a loyal employee.

Your post should be debated I think your 100% right

by dia mette on Sep 2, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am very, very disappointed by how Big Nog has been treated and sidelined as a result of this. As much as I want to see Lesnar fight Couture, I am very (did I already write “very”?) disappointed. Big Nog has been totally disrespected in my opinion. I hope there is an explanation about how/why this is happening. I absolutely did not expect a title fight. I fully expected a non-title fight.

by MMACrossfire on Sep 2, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is real simple…

The UFC could not strip Randy of the belt while they were in litigation (and probably wouldn’t of, hoping for this very thing), now that he’s back they won’t strip him because that was probably one of the bargaining points to get him back… Mir and Nog were already scheduled to fight in Dec as part of the TUF wrap up, so they can’t break that one up… another bargaining point to get Randy back was probably that he fight immediately since he is 45 and has already been sitting out for a year (tick, tock), so waiting for the winner of Mir/Nog wasn’t an option… Lesnar just about pounded Mir out and then destroyed Herring (who went toe-to-toe with Nog, and almost upset him I might add) so, lack of experience aside, in my estimation he has to rank up there…

add it all up, it makes perfect sense to me.

by hobiecat on Sep 2, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does that really say “he’ll need to whack off any and all cage rust sooner rather than later”? I feel like the whacking off of this so called cage rust might tire him out for the fight. hopefully hes just fighting brock and skipping the whacking off.

by stayfitty on Sep 2, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i must say that this is a HUGE slap in Nog’s face… and as much as i am excited to see Couture back in action, its sad that he’s fighting Brock… because think of it this way.. Randy has been claiming he is #2 in the HW division, and wants to fight FEdor… well lETS say Randy loses Due to brock dry humping him, where does that leave Randy and the hype behind fighting FEdor??? #1 fighting #5 of the HW division or less don’t really know where Brock stands

by ricky on Sep 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cant beleive he is accepting this fight Its such a bad match up for so many reasons.

You have to think that Dana was personally hurt from some of the things randy said.

Its mere speculation but I can see dana and lorenzo out to a private dinner thinking this whole senerio out. Give Randay a big pay day like he wants but make him at 45 fight a monster in lesnar So if he loses which chances are he will the hype of a possible couture fedor bout in affliction is over. And if Randy is able to miraculously win again then thats even better for future block buster cards, of course in the end its a no lose situation for Zuffa what a suprise.

I highly doubt they have any intention of co promoting with M-1 to get fedor in 2009.

by dia mette on Sep 2, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope the champ doesn’t get killed or permanently damaged. Old people don’t recover so well. When Brock had Herring’s back, Herring couldn’t ROLL! This fight’s over after the first TD.

by kama kaze on Sep 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WELCOME BACK RANDY!!

by UFC-FORUMS.COM on Sep 2, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Brock has great potential dont really like his style of fighting but Brock he must have apples of steel. He asked to fight the best and Dana obliged if Dana would just obliged to paying undercard fighters more.

by hk on Sep 2, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“he’ll need to whack off any and all cage rust”laughed my ass off at this choice of words…… Anyway, it shouldn’t be for the Official belt but we can’t do anything about that. If Lesnar beats up Randy and Nog then or nog beats up woever after Mir etc. etc. it will all wash out in the end. Brock’s first # opponents in the ufc Mir+Herring+Couture= Balls

by Psyqo78 on Sep 2, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its this simple whoever wins the Brock Lesnar Fighte,Brock or Not gets the title shot

by Brian Trombly on Sep 2, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar will murder him and i think he can beat Fedor!

by Tony on Sep 2, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar ain’t gonna beat Fedor[for now…].

by "TheNegation" on Sep 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one can beat Fedor. Ever.

by c-war on Sep 3, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and everyone always talk a shit about Fedor fighting cans… he fought waaaaaaay better competetion than cock lesnar…

by whaha on Sep 2, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with on this one, Mania. Couture not one of the most athletic and strongest of the HW division??? Come on!!! The man is a freak of nature. I haven’t seen any of his fights that prove your point about that, unless you somehow know he’s been sitting on his couch eating cupcakes and donuts for the past couple of months.

by DaneJa!260 on Sep 2, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lesnar will be the longest reigning champ! Mir will die in a rematch if he is dumb enought to tek it! Randy has zero chance is this fight! Lesnar is the best! Fedor would lose against Lesnar.

by Tony on Sep 2, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think the title should be on the line for this fight, as by merit Nogueira is the champion and Lesnar doesn’t deserve a title shot just yet. The whole idea of an interim belt seems silly. There should be one champion in a promotion’s weight class. After Randy opted to stay out of action, there’s no way he deserves to waltz back in and remain a champion. Nogueira-Couture would have made more sense, had UFC not already organised Mir-Nogueira and TUF.

Lesnar-Couture is a strong fight in terms of marketability but in every other sense, it looks like a mismatch to me.

Lesnar has the advantage in terms of age, he’s much younger. Because of that, his conditioning will also be superior. He’s bigger, faster, stronger and more agile.

Although Randy is well known for keeping trim despite his old age, his lack of action could cancel that out. It was August last year when Randy last fought, that will be 15 months without fighting come November. That’s a long time in this sport, as shown by the consequences of Rampage’s long break in between the Griffin and Henderson fights. A lack of regular action will affect Randy for sure. With all the uncertainty over his future, he may have took the eye of the ball in that department.

I think in the striking department that Brock will also have the advantage with his bigger hands being able to provide unrivalled knockout power. This is the key to Brock’s victory I feel.

As I think it’s in the wrestling/grappling department where Couture will match Brock and they’ll cancel each other out as they are both distinguished wrestlers.

I think Couture’s best chance of victory comes from submissions, even though Randy’s skill set may not be fantastic, his experience could be telling in this area. Mir exposed Lesnar, Couture could do the same, although it’ll be much harder as no doubt Brock will have worked on submission defence.

So in many ways this is risky for both fighters. If Lesnar loses, he’ll be on the end of a big upset, it’ll overshadow his dominant win over Herring, he will have blown a big opportunity to hold the title and dominate for a long time and it will throw further doubt into whether he has all the attributes to succeed in elite level MMA. And if Randy loses, his stock drops in the heavyweight division and the lustre of a fight with Fedor decreases even further than it has already as people will want see more competitive fights e.g.: Lesnar-Fedor.

But all in all, this looks set to be another win for Lesnar in my eyes. He will have too much for Randy.

by Jourdan on Sep 2, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is awesome if brock and mir win they can rematch for the belt in feb, 1 yr after the first fight, or if they loose they can still rematch. this will be an awesome fight looking foward to it, lesnar tko in the 3rd

by markg on Sep 2, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank God Randy’s Back!!! But Lesner1 Am I the only one who thinks this is complete bullshit! I mean the guy wins one fight and he gets a fuckin title shot. What are the UFC guys smokin? The guy is 1-1 in the UFC and 2-1 altogether and he gets a shot at the title. No wonder Arlovski left. I’ll be a UFC fan till I die but this frustrates the hell out of me! Just plain wrong

by broncos12405 on Sep 2, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will probably be lynched on this site for this but here it goes.I think and hope Mir ends up as the last man standing in this whole mess of shite. let the bashing begin

by jdawg on Sep 2, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha ok, what you are thinking is unreal.. Mir will be the one who gets to fight Justin McCully after this! him even getting a fight with Nogueira is just not right.. It’s gonna be Lesnar vs Nogueira

by RoB on Sep 2, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dana is the fucking man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Without him i dont know where MMA would be without him……….

by Homslice on Sep 2, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As I said at the onset of the Couture fiasco – his advisors were idiotic. There is no way that he would beat Zuffa in court. I’m excited for the Lesnar/Couture fight. I still think that Fedor will be in the UFC in the near future. Lorenzo Fertitta is in charge of taking the UFC international. Bending a little bit to meet Fedor’s demands would be worth it (I’d even agree to accept the best of the Red Devil team).

by Muscle Dolphin on Sep 2, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is going to be such a huge draw. In Randy’s prime I think he takes it… but right now… Brock is gonna just lay on him like he did Herring.

Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com

by Rob Dib on Sep 2, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NOG will be the champ after all this bs

by joe on Sep 2, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome back Randy. Your still the champ!
Pound him ouT !! :)

by Ktown on Sep 2, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is horseshit, nog doesnt deserve this just cuz he is the great randy or what ever dana white is garbage.. he not only screwed the real champ but the fans of the northwest who were all excited to see the ufc for the first time, i remain a fan of the ufc but this makes me rethink the policts that really go on behind those fuckin doors

by iceman1969 on Sep 2, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is the only fight that really makes sense at the moment, regardless of lesnar’s record he is one of the better heavyweight’s in the ufc, the devision lacks top tallent. randy has already been out long enough and can’t afford to sit out longer than he already has so who else in the ufc heavyweight devision could give him a good fight. as for it being a title fight i can’t say i totally agree however lesnar was going to get a title fight at some point, if congo didn’t get injured lesnar would have likely beat him then got a title shot. This being marketed as a title fight, i think, is just for marketing, and i’m not going to complain about a 5 rounder, it will help sell a super fight between the winner of lesnar-couture and mir-nog. I see lesnar beating couture and nog beating mir, right now nog would sub lesnar any day of the week but by the time the fight actually happens (probably 6-8 months from now) i think he will have good enough bjj defense to win that fight, from then on i see lesnar being champ for a while

by hughes on Sep 2, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Considering his age — and upcoming opponent — he’ll need to whack off..”

Haha pulled this from the article.. Poor choice of wording..

I think this is all fine and dandy, with Couture coming back to fight Lesnar.

But Lesnar does not deserve to be having a title shot and they really screwed Nog on this one.

Good thing they have already filmed that season of TUF cause I am sure Nog would not have done it if he heard of this fight first.

by DirtyML on Sep 2, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You never know, it might work. Lesnar would be confused as hell if the first thing Randy does when the bell rings is whip it out.

by Joe Smith on Sep 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I in lala land?
Lesner gets a title shot? what? why?
So what if he is a big name? a 2-1 record is a joke!

Fight some more guys and than get it.

Maybe we should get Kimbo in and give him a title shot to!

Come on…

by Assaf on Sep 2, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey Verdum…..hurry up and wait homie

by jin on Sep 2, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s an interesting point. I’m pretty sure it’s in Werdum’s contract that he will get a title shot if he wins his next fight. He may end up waiting until April.

by DB on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Put the title unification bout on the suberbowl card. Imagine it, Randy/Brock vs Nog/Mir, BJ vs GSP, Serra vs Hughes, Wanderlei vs Rampage, it would be the greatest PPV in history! But I’m getting way ahead of myself. I really didn’t think this would be a title bout, but I don’t have a huge problem with it. I can see Brock by decision or TKO, but I think Randy by submission is also feasable. Randy is a very good submission grappler and he definatley can tap a rookie like Lesner. If I had to pick someone I would probibly take Lesner. My brain keeps telling me to pick Brock, but somthing inside me is screaming not to pick against Randy. As for the Future of the belt, I could see several scenarios. First off, there is no way Mir beats Nog. He doesn’t have the conditioning and he can’t tap Nog in the first round. It has been proven if Mir can’t tap someone in the first round he will gass. And if he gasses there’s even less of a chance of him defeating Nog. Nog would definatley beat Lesner, but I’m not totally sold on him defeating Randy. I think Randy could impose his game on Nog and pounding him. However, I do see Nog as the favorite to come out on top after all of this.

by DB on Sep 2, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No way!!! This is incredibly exciting news. I hate watching Couture fight because every time he does I think that he is going to get hurt, but I have to admit that he is a mastermind when it comes to gameplans. I can’t believe they gave Brock a title shot this quickly. This must be the most insignificant title shot in the history of MMA. It would be like any of us fighting a guy like Mike Swick and getting to fight GSP after that.

by Don on Sep 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cannot believe that people are so upset by this being a title fight. As rankings go you are only as good as your last fight. Do I agree that Nog is champ yes. Do I agree that Mirr deserves a shot at Nog, not after he was given so much help against lesnar by the ref, Nog will crush him after he gasses in the second round which is pathetic. Does Randy deserve the title, not after taking a year off. He should be ranked as one of the top heavyweights though and after proving himself against a top heavyweight get a title shot. Does lesnar deserve a title shot, no but he is a top heavyweight as he defeated herring who last defeated congo. So basically Lesnar wins in a fight against Randy to prove he deserves a shot at who wins from Mirr and Nog, which will be Nog, although if lesnar wins ou better believe Dana will be hoping Mirr pulls off the upset. If Randy wins he has proven he still has it and deserves the winner of Nog and Mirr. Now that leaves Gonzaga out there and all the rest of the rising stars.

Now for those who say that father time has no effect on Randy……….please. He should of gone down to 205 for his re-entry back into the UFC. I do understand that his wife is saying he has fought other big guys, gonzaga and Timmy, but they are not in comparison in size to Lesnar. Herring was 245 solid in the fight with Lesnar and looked like a small man against him. Randy will look tiny. I am sorry people but barring the lucky punch which will happen, or the chance submission that I dont think randy has the skill to pull off anymore especially against a person the size of lesnar this fight will just be Lesnar imposing his size, strength and speed against the smaller, older, slower, yet more experienced Randy. I see it happening this way

1. randy will be so worried about the freight train of a shoot lesnar possesses and will get caught just like herring did. Once there he will have someone outweighing him by 50 to 60 pounds on top of him controlling him. This will wear out the old man and then he will get pounded out.

2. randy just gets taken down easily by Lesnar who can take down any heavyweight and the same ending as number 1.

3. It stays on the feet for a bit and Randy tries the deal of pushing up against the cage like he always does and Lesnar uses his strength to reverse it and knee randy into unconciousness.

All in all except for a very very small chances randy will get imbarrased.

I understand most people do not like that Lesnar is getting a shot at randy and thus a title shot thereafter as I do not view randy as champ, but the reality is in the facts. Randy is 45 and 225 at his largest. Lesnar 33, 280 at cage time stronger, faster(yes much faster), younger, with great endurance(believe it), incredible base on the ground to control opponents much bigger than randy.

by ASR on Sep 7, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good way to prove that MMA is not a true sport.
thanks dana/joe silva

by rich on Sep 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Coture is one man that father time cannot catch up with!!!! I am pumped to watch this fight. I was at Lesnar’s last fight in Minny and have to say he is a Beast, but never count out Coture. I am reading his book right now and must say it is a must read for any fan of MMA, wrestling, or one who just needs that extra drive. I will be glued to this website for updates!!! MMAmania Rocks!!!

Mr. P.R. of the Midwest

by Michael Weimer on Sep 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I KNEW THIS WAS COMING AND HAVE BEEN TALKING TO FRIENDS ABOUT FOR A COUPLE O WEEKS!

I THINK THIS WILL BE THE BIGGEST PPV DRAW IN MMA HISTORY…..

I HAVE LEARNED WITH SYLVIA GONZAGA AND LIDDELL TO NEVER COUNT COTOURE OUT, BUT I THINK BROCK TAKES THIS AS HE IS JUST A WAYY BIGGER YET WAAAY LESS EXPERIENCED RANDY!! YES I SAID IT!! THEY HAVE VERY SIMILAR STYLES….

RANDY COULD TAKE IT PROVIDED HE COMES IN WITH A GREAT GAME PLAN AND EXECUTES IT, LIKE HE VERY WELL COULD!

TOOO EARLY FOR BROCK TO BE GIVEN A TITLE FIGHT BUT HEY WHO GIVES A SHIT THIS SHOULD BE GREATTTT!!!!!!!!

NOG VS BROCK ILL BE PULLING FOR BROCK BUT I THINK HE WILL GET CAOUGHT IN A SUB, PROBABLY ARM BAR, KNEE BAR, OR GUILLATINE!

WHITE’S DREAM WOLD BE A REMATCH OF NEW CHAMPS LESNAR AND MIR!!!!

CAN’T WAIT TO SEE HOW THIS ALL PLAYS OUT!

by SoCalStunNa on Sep 2, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree he if he fought nog right now he would get caught in a sub but if that fight happens it won’t be for another 6-8 months, by that time i think lesnar will have worked enough bjj defense to beat nog

by hughes on Sep 2, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont say he dont deserve a shot yet, if he wins then he deserves to be the champ. like him or not he will be the next champ. and he will do it by beating couture and then have a succesful defense by defeating big nog/mir. anderson silva did not deserve a title shot either, who thinks he does not deserve to be champ now? some people get to bypass the ranks and go to the top, lesnar is the type of guy who has the credentials to do this. ncaa runner up, ncaa national champion, freak of nature, etc…… wait and see!!!!!

by day1er on Sep 2, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heres the dictionary definition of the word interim in case anybody thinks Nog is hard done by:- “a temporary or provisional arrangement; stopgap; makeshift.” He knew what he was getting.

Way I see it Randy and Nog both have something to prove and Lesnar and Mir have enough talent to pull a win out of the bag so we get to see a sudo-heavyweight tournament that should give us three exciting and technical fights.
 
Best of Greco vs. Best of Freestyle
Top American Jits vs. Top Brazilian Jits
Wrestling vs. Subs in who’s the daddy finale.

This is a coup for UFC and I love it.

by paniczoo on Sep 2, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All I can say is randy I was your fan and was hoping you would stand up and fight for what you beleive in, but you proved you are just a corporate shill.

by bigmcmac on Sep 2, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad “fighting for what he believes in” means trying to get a bigger paycheck, which is probably what he’s getting. But even if he’s not, I’m sure fighting the UFC with no end in sight when he’s at the end of his carreer would’ve been the best way to make more money. Oh yeah, I’m sure Couture would be awesome in 10 years. Plus he’d have the satisfaction of fighting for so much more money, well, as long as you ignore the 10 years that he didn’t fight for any money at all, because if you did that, he’d obviously make way less money overall. But yeah, that would’ve been his best move for sure.

by Joe Smith on Sep 2, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BROCK WILL DEFEAT RANDY AND THEN DEFEAT FEDOR

by chris benoit on Sep 2, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Knew this was coming right after Brock beat Heath Herring, I knew it because it was all that made sense so thank god, UFC, Couture, Lesnar and mum for paying the cable bill!

by Unbiased Opinion on Sep 2, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious.

by Joe Smith on Sep 2, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah!!!! Way to come through, Mum!!! This is freakin’ awesome!!! So, if Couture loses, does the UFC still put get Fedor to fight?

by RedDog on Sep 2, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummm… why and when did UFC 91 get moved from Portland, Oregon to Las Vegas? And isn’t UFC 92 on Dec. 27th suppossed to be in Vegas?? … damn, too many cities demanding the UFC for it to be in Vegas 2 months in a row…

~G$

by The Prodi-G$ on Sep 2, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is awesome… couldn’t ask for anything more…1 of the biggest matchups ever in mma history.. i cant believe it though brock is 1-1 in ufc… but who cares… go ‘natural’

by j-bone on Sep 2, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that this fight is just awfull. I am on the fence about Randy still being HW champ as it is because he left for ridiculous reasons. Nog deserves the title and Randy should have to fight back up for it. Perhaps that was merely part of the settlement that Randy is still recognized as the champ. And then to add insult to injury, Brock Lesnar gets the title shot? Get the f-ck out of here! I understand the marketability and PPV draw that this must be, but holy crap. Cheick Kongo deserves as title shot first. Even Cain Velasquez! I only hope that Lesnar loses so that some semblance of order can be restored to the HW division, because if Mr. WWE wins, it’s just in shambles.

by Dave on Sep 2, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dave: just sit back my friend, and watch Randy get his face pounded in by a 400 pound silver-back gorilla from Webster, South Dakota!!

by RedDog on Sep 2, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just about crapped my pants when i found out it was official!!!

by belfort_fan on Sep 2, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn! brock can kick his ass now

by ryu shogun on Sep 2, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome! now lesnar can kick his ass

by ryu shogun on Sep 2, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are you going to repeat yourself untill someone pays attention to you… shut the hell up!!!!

by belfort_fan on Sep 3, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is gay though, now if Lesnar beats couture there will be no more hype for the Fedor fight..

by shaedonovan on Sep 2, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about that. Maybe Fedor will join the UFC and fight winner of Nog/Mir?

by RedDog on Sep 2, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Randy back, but it’s too soon to give Lesnar a title shot.

by blackBEERd on Sep 2, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couture can win this fight if he emulates what forrest did against page….

by COlin on Sep 2, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank god that’s finally over with!

by mma on Sep 2, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MMA, NO shit! Couture is where Tito was years ago in the lightheavy’s. Hwy badly needed something exciting to happen and this was it… Amen!

by THORAZINE on Sep 2, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick! Somebody start drafting up Randy’s Obit!

by Dana Rulezzzz on Sep 2, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s the biggest s*** ever in the world of MMA. They hired one of the best HW (second best actually, after Fedor) in Minotauro and now they are pretty much saying that his interim belt is a joke because he is not marketable as Lesnar and because he would probably beat Couture. That’s f**** up. The UFC only cares about business, they don’t care about fighting.

by Cristiano from Brazil on Sep 2, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im expecting randy to be about + 400

if randy wins this one hell be p4p king

although everyone should have learnt by now to not count the natural out… i just cant see this one going well

lesnar is a 300lb animal
if he learns to defend leglocks i cant see any way for randy to win

randys hands are improved but to outbox tim sylvia with his bad back and srappy footwork isnt that great an achievement

randys chin is suspect and im sure brock can hit harder than chuck did

there is no way he can outwrestle a ncaa wrestler who has 70+lbs of muscle on him

taking the awward injured tim sylvia down was hard enough but i seriously cant see randy shooting on him brock could swipe him to the floor and fall on top then take the back or just land body shots to the sides of his ribs and lower back for the rest of the round

brock will decide where the fight takes place and aslong as he doesnt make a major mistake and turn it into purely a striking contest ie a boxing match then i cant see randy doing anything to stop him

if brock shoots on randy he will take him down

once it hits the deck randy will have no way of returning to standing and unless you are fedor or NOG i cant see how you can submit him with an armbar or triangle unless he makes a crazy mistake and allows a fedor style armbar to be applied

by bigjohn on Sep 2, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree Lesnar should categorically not be getting a title shot after 1 win, its a farse!! The guy has potential, but to be given a title shot after 1 win is just ridiculous!! What about cheik kongo and guys like that?? No wonder fighters get pissed, I do think however that Brock will hard for Randy to handle due to his sheer size, I just dont think the fight should be happening!

And people are criticising the ICEMAN for wanting a title shot, this is way beyond that if you ask me!!!!!!!!!

by mo on Sep 2, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mo, what White does is build the biggest matches the UFC can get, the heavyweight division is floundering… Brock hasn’t earned a title quest by number of fights, but he does by sheer performance.

We all know Mir barely escaped with his life and Heath took one of the worst lopsided losses he ever had and Heath whupped Kongo and Couture whupped Gonzaga.. I mean who else should Couture fight for his likely ‘farewell performance’?.. if the UFC can put anyone that is the greatest challenge for Couture physically it’s Lesnar… I don’t think Lesnar is mentally ready for the likes of Couture’… but if anyone can beat Couture on paper it’s Lesnar.

by THORAZINE on Sep 2, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS LESNAR IS DA MANNNNNNN SCREW ALL U GUYS

by Island Boi on Sep 2, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how does werbum not get a title shot but lesner does

by bigsmoke on Sep 2, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if anything brock and shawn carwin should fight

by bigsmoke on Sep 2, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brock does not deserve this fight. It is unfair to other heavyweights who have put together a string of wins to not be in the title hunt.

The reason Randy is fighting Brock rather than Nog is because Mir and Nog have been on that tuff show and all the hype for the two of them fighting would be lost if Nog was suddenly fighting Randy instead plus their is a contract for Nog to fight Mir already.

So they want Randy to fight someone and win before he gets a shot at the title. That way Randy has to win 2 fights to get the belt instead of one and the UFC has a better shot at keeping the belt in the UFC.

by scott on Sep 2, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THIS IS GREAT NEWS THAT RANDY IS BACK WITH THE UFC. THIS WILL BE A GREAT FIGHT FOR THE FANS TO. EXPERIENCE V STRENGTH AND POWER!!

by dirtydarkin on Sep 2, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

carwin deserves a title fight more than brock. none of them really deserve one but that just shows you if your a dana favorate how much you can jump the ladder hence liddel title shot if he wins

by bigsmoke on Sep 2, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Brock could not finish Herring, how in the hell could he finish someone like Nog? Nog beat Bob Sapp who has 100 pounds of roids on Brock. Nog beat Herring 3 times. Brock didn’t even try a submission. Herring could of omo plata’d Brock in that fight there were many missed opportunities that guys like Mir and Nog would have used to end the fight. Even Randy has enough bjj to tap Brock. Of the 3 Nog matches up best to beat Brock btu I would not favor Brock in any of them. BJJ works see 170 Royce tapping guys like Kimo and Sevren who are 3 times his size.

by scott on Sep 2, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

money money money moneyyyyyyyy…. MONEY! lesner may be a freak but his “climb to the top” was a bit short… but if he makes it through and gets 2 wins in this mini-playoff there wont be much room for hatin’ on the decision. fat chance

by mmammamma on Sep 2, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that this is a title fight mostly so it can be five rounds if needed. Though Lesnar shouldn’t be awarded a title fight yet, this has the feeling of a fight for the co-No. 1 contender anyway. Dana is looking for one great payday, and the possibility of more if Lesnar wins.

Dana is trying to turn Lesnar into his version of Kimbo Slice – someone with name recognition outside of MMA circles who can draw in the casual fan. Only Dana chose a guy with a legit collegiate background and is giving him legit opponents so it doesn’t feel fake or forced.

by MMAClubhouse on Sep 3, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

brock can beat randy by lay and plow but will never beable to beat ppl like nog or fedor. nog fight would last longer than fedor. brock would have nothing on fedor. brock knows fedor is to quick on his feet for fedor so he would get the take down and arm bared less than 90 secs

by bigsmoke on Sep 3, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LEsnar won’t get armbarred. He would just flex his muscles, lol!

by TheNegation on Sep 4, 2008 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dana is such a looser.. he dont care about the integrity of the sport.. he just wants ppv numbers.because he cant top 2006..desperate dana

by poot on Sep 3, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Say what you want about Dana, either way, you know Tom Attencio and all the guys at affliction are bumming out in a big way. Oh well, there’s always the Ozzy concerts.

by Jrandolph on Sep 3, 2008 1:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a slap in the face to Nogueira. Who the hell is Lesnar to get a title shot in only his 3rd UFC match, at the expense of the interim champ? Whilst I’m happy to see Randy back, I’m appalled to see Minotauro treated this way. He’s a fighter who’s always acted with respect and class, and he’s demonstrated that he’s one of the top fighters in the sport. More than that, he’s earned the first shot at Randy’s belt. Lesnar is about 100 miles ahead of where he deserves to be.

by zulu9812 on Sep 3, 2008 1:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nog has a season on TUF, a high profile match with Mir and win or lose he will get a crack at the champship proper soon. His plate is full, his stock is going up and up (as is his bank account) and you wont hear him complaining because he isnt a whinin biattch.

by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think sum of u guys r pro rasslin fans, thinkin that they will script a win for brock. but randy has shown over and over that he has everything it takes to beat younger stronger fighters with more experience than brock. Randys chin is suspect? he has been ko’d twice, ice man. no one before or after has been able to put him to sleep. not even gonzagas head kick that ko’d cro cop. this is going to be an mma fight, not a wrestling match. the natural wins in 3rd.

by majka on Sep 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All of these Lesnar-Made Victorys…. shall temper Brock for Fedor down the road.

*IF Dana White or ANYONE wants to make a fistfull of millions it would be to host THE FIGHT OF THE CENTRY:

Anderson “the Spiderman” Silva VS. Fedor The Russian Reaper E.

Will this ever happen?!? Can it?!??

by Das' KING!!! on Sep 6, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude… how can you put the two in the same fight ?We’ll see how he does when he moves his butt up a class and really start fighting

by bruce on Sep 7, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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