Gone-ito: Jackson leaves Ibarra for UK's Wolfslair

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Quoteworthy:
"Those guys got it together. Michael Bisping took to me like a brother from the first time I met him. He and [Paul] Anthony were very hospitable towards me when I first came to the UK. I feel like Wolfslair can make me go farther than I have been; I'm really excited about being able to travel there to train. The guys on the team, they like to laugh and joke around but they train hard and that's me, that's what I like to do. What better team to join than one called Wolfslair? I'm a werewolf. It was my destiny. People don't understand destiny but I do. Wolfslair is the most perfect team for me."
Former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton Jackson reveals that trainer Juanito Ibarra has officially resigned (on amicable terms) and that "Rampage" has joined Michael "The Count" Bisping at the UK's Wolfslair Fight Team. In addition to fight preparation, Wolfslair will also handle all of Jackson's MMA-related business endeavors.
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Juanito was suppose to retire anyways after Griffin beat Jackson…
Jacks will lose if he leaves Ibarra!
by mikeybear on Aug 27, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
juanito claimed on espn’s mma live program that he didnt mean that he would retire from fight training when he guaranteed the victory over forrest, he claimed that he meant that he would retire from being an longshoreman or either an offshoreman (i cant remember exactly wich one).of course that’s total b.s., at least the guys at mma live asked him about the guarantee, but i was a little dissapointed about them not calling him out on these claims. why would he guarantee to retire froma job that he had 10 or 15 years ago on a fight countdown is beyond me. it did seem that rampage improved greatly under juanito’s tutaledge, but i think the limelight and attention went to juanitos head. who had ever heard of juantio before rampage became champ?
by b.w. on Aug 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pre-fight hype is all it was. Give the dude a break.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duran Duran’s song “hungry like The Wolf” would be an appropriate entrance music for Rampage, lol!
by TheNegation on Aug 27, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but he [Juanito] should just say that. Instead he attempts to validate them? Longshoremen? Say wha…
by Jrandolph on Aug 28, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys.beliee it or not just got he call back up. I’m leaving for Iraq Next wensday.kind of wierd because i have been posting things about the dumb ass dnc for the last 2 nights.any way it’s another year tour.yea i’m scared a bit if any of you all remember i had a baby girl on the third of july,and have a three year old.I had a feeling I was going back.I don’t know I guess it’s that wierd feeling u get in ur stomach after finding out something wrong and i’ve had it for a month or twoan way there was a couple people that voiced there opinion about what I had to sy about me and iran last nite ,one had to do with it was unjustified, All I have to say is one thing seriously stop the mma shxxxxt for one minute,do you remember the feeling you had on 9/11 cause I do. and here’s why i joined the army 101st divisionby the way air born. I cryed my eyes out i was sick to y stomach thinking of all those people who woke up that morning,that didn’t even think o another day at the office,all they thought was ahhhh damn alarm clock,not to know 2 hrs later they would be dead.I want nothing more than America to have the feeling of the 1950’s again when the people of this nation only had to worry about what they were going to do that nite,but it’s not going to happen. Hopefully this is not my last post here.And i dont think it will be but you never know GUYS I ASK ONE FAVOR AND IM SERIOUS I WILL CHECK THIS IN THE MORNING TO SEE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY DO ME THIS FAVOR GO TO YOU TUBE,PUSH IN-DAVID LETTERMAN REFLECTIONSAFTER 9/11 SEPT17,2001 THEN GIVE ME A SHOUT OUT IF YOU WANT. BUT LOOK AT IT PLEASE. WATCH THE WHOLE THING THIS IS WHERE I GET MY STRENGHT I NEVER FORGET,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by DBG on Aug 28, 2008 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG, Not even sure what to post in response, save that we all wish you a healthy and safe return. Most of us will never know the sacrifices that men and women like you make, and it is greatly appreciated. All the best to your family and the families that have someone who serves and risks all so we have protection and freedoms. Many Thanks!
by chefdaddy on Aug 28, 2008 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG I can’t say I agree with you on some things but there is no point in arguing this because the point is your out there to protect us. I tried joining the Marines and the Army myself but I can’t hear out of one ear so the didn’t accept me. I really wish the best of luck to you man, good luck over there and come back in one piece.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 28, 2008 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG- Thank you very much and Godspeed. Come back safe.
by DSmith on Aug 28, 2008 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG: As a human..As an American..as a New Yorker..I wish you a safe return to your loved ones back home. War is not a good thing.. I pray for peace..and understand how this great country was founded.. through the blood and sacrifices of our Soldiers. I try to keep things as positive as I can..I was in the city that day.. my job at the time ..was a .25 mile from the WTC. coming into our 7th year that marks that day.. I reflect.
Maybe not now.. but when you get back from your tour.. get your hands on a copy of " Loose Change 2nd Edition ".. I saw this documentary like 2 years ago.. it provided me a different perspective that I couldn’t..and wouldn’t grasp during and following immediatly after 9/11.
Thank you.. for being able and willing to protect us.. the American people.
by PhilQNY on Aug 28, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBC – Stay safe brother. I am grateful for you and those who serve with you.
by RealDrew on Aug 28, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG- watch your back over there man and thanks for your service to this country!
Phil: I have that dvd and wow! Its interesting to say the least! Not sure if I buy it 100% but definately raises several questions that many wouldnt have asked immediatey following the events of 9/11
by Chadx23 on Aug 28, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG, I remember we had a fuss a while back but I do wish you the best. I’m not American nor do I live in America, and even though I’m very skeptical about the war and the Bush Administration I do wish you the best and your safe return. I just wish more army personnel would advocate more against the Bush Administration, there were many that protested against by voting and donating to Ron Paul, I suspect during the general election they’ll protest by voting to Obama. Please keep an open mind about the war. I know that you took it personal as you should have when 9-11 happened, but all the hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. You mentioned ‘just remember 9-11 and you know what I’m talking about’ in regards to Iran. Iran had nothing to do with 9-11 and they haven’t had a war in over 100 years! All I’m saying is that you should keep an open mind, I know you can’t say no to going to Iraq when you’re summoned, soldiers are like pawns to the generals they serve, but you should keep an open mind about everything still. Be safe and keep an open mind!
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG – Thank you for your service. May you return safely to many blessings for you and your family.
by Jeff on Aug 28, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, what a way to wake up. I appreciate what all you soldiers are doing to keep me and my family safe. Check in when you can and stay safe!
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How can Rampage leave the country. I was on 100,000 bail once (paid 10k cash) and I couldn’t leave the state. He has multiple felonies and can leave the country. I’m not saying it’s not a good move, but I’m surprised.
on a side note, I love John’s whatever. You have a comment and opinion about everyone except rampage, and it’s so obvious, if fedor rejected you you’d turn to page. LOL good morning John!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 28, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AS much as I like Rampage, I am a bigger fan of other fighters for Example: Shogun, BJ, Sakuraba, fedor, Anderson…..Then Rampage, wanderlei, Nogueira, Jacre, Leites, Gono, gomi, Genki sudo
Moral of the story is, I like too many fighters, but of course their is a special lil place in my heart for king Fedor! lol
by john on Aug 28, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linx: Try if you can see it on the net " Loose Change 2nd edition ".. you would want to watch it!
by PhilQNY on Aug 28, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
phil, you’re killing me, I just spent 20 minutes ignoring my son! I got into that movie quick. I’m gonna have to take the time to finish it. Quite interesting. Hey, did you check out any of my pictures? Got my family on that page! You got some nice mma pics bro!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 28, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iran had nothing to do with 9-11 and they haven’t had a war in over 100 years!
Linx, they had a 9 year war with iraq. Every shred of evidence has pointed straight to iran, its only a matter of time before they get their turn. WAR AMERICA!
by NewGuyTheGunMan on Aug 28, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate war protestors that point out ignorant foggy ideas. Our war is not with Iraq. the whole plan, whether the Bush Administration admits to it or not, is for the US to have a presense in the middle east where Islamic extremists have called a Holy War or Jihad on All people non-islamists. By ignoring it, we will be doomed to meet the same fate as many European countries that have become infiltrated and overrun by these terrorists. Look at what’s happened in Spain and France over the last 3 years. . .Linx, I was in Brazil when 9/11 happened. Do you know how many Brazilians told me, an American, that we get what we deserve because we’re a wealthy nation, and that we shouldn’t retaliate because those poor people dress in robes and live in caves and we should forgive them? I emplore YOU linx, to keep an open mind. DBG, God bless you and your family and come home safely.
by haglnuts on Aug 28, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NewGuy, I meant Iran didn’t start a war, the war between Iraq and Iran was because Iraq invaded Iran. What shred of evidence is this that you speak of? Nuclear weapons? Your own inte!!igence agency says otherwise, it’s only the Bush Administration that is trying to make this happen. I’d rethink this war thing with Iran, Russia would get involved if you guys go in there… and for what? Too many lives will be lost if America goes into Iran, why do you say WAR AMERICA? Do you want to see bl00d drip?
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haglnuts, where in Brazil were you? City and State? and maybe neighborhood… I find it hard to believe a Brazilian (not because of the Brazilian nationality but just any human) would have told you this. Here, we were very worried about the US during september 11. Spain got hit in protest to having army in Iraq and helping the US. I’m not condoning the terror, but this happened as a result to the invasion of Iraq… every action has a re-action. Iraq had no terrorism before the US invaded it, now look at how many al-qaeda there are in there, among many other terrorism groups. Doesn’t seem like you’re fixing the problem, but putting more wood in the fire. Now you want to go into Iran, where there is no terrorism either? you want to have two new countries with more terrorists in the list? Instead of fixing the problem, you’re putting more wood in the fire. Yes, please DO keep an open mind…
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DBG,
If you feel so strongly about defending our nation then I don’t understand why you would join the service to fight in Iraq where you are basically just fighting for THEIR independence. Any and all links to terrorism were fabricated by the Bush Administration quite clearly and after Hussein was captured that nation poses no more of a threat to the U.S. or any North American country for that matter moreso than fucking Greenland does. Iraq is a nation in complete turmoil and chaos because of their culture and religion. They take that stuff wayyyy too seriously which doesn’t allow them to take other things — like government — seriously enough. It seems like they will never be able to sit down together, have a debate and make a decision on their government and then run a popular vote (if they choose a democratic system).
Which brings me to my other point. It’s not the United States’ responsibility — nor should it be — to govern other countries and tell them how their country should be run. That’s why the UN was created, it’s why NATO was created.
And lastly, my point to you is this: Being as patriotic as you clearly are, as willing as you are to put your life on the line for your nation, you should choose to do in a war that is for the freedom of our nation! World War II was that type of war, as was the WWI. But these wars (Iraq, Gulf, Vietnam, Korean) are definitely not. And you can’t try and convince yourself that they are nor can you listen to the BS gov. propaganda that they will undoubtedly try to brainwash you with. It’s all BS. Use your head, for godsakes!
I’m passionate about this because I am just like you. I feel strongly about fighting for one’s freedom and preserving that wonderful privilege that we are all born with. But you have to be smart about the fights that you choose. This one in Iraq is for nothing more than acting as a parent to the two children aka shiites and sunnis.
by Anthony on Aug 28, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linx: Brotha.. I agree with you.. I think what you insist persists.. We have a war on drugs.. and we more drugs in America.. anti-war.. brings about more war.. anti- hunger.. more hunger.. anti terrorism.. more terrorism.. I believe in Peace. I do not fight the things I don’t want.. I put my toughts and feelings into the things I do want.. So those things can happen. How long has the US been in Iraq?? How many more people died after 9/11 cuz of this war?? Is the situation better or worse in the middle east? Me.. I’m not going to follow the populist.. if I speak out on my beliefs.. I’m tagged as a terrorist..The Patriot act?? What’s up with that..
Ben Franlkin said something that sticks out to me during these times…
" When one gives up liberty for security, one will neither have liberty or security.
Linx eu gostaria de sabe se vc tem uma counta de myspace..orkut.. o email.. para a gente conversar mais.. Ate mais brotha.. agora eu vo trainar…
by PhilQNY on Aug 28, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kev: You have a beautiful family.. God Bless you guys..
by PhilQNY on Aug 28, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rapaz, eu tinha orkut uns 2 anos atrás, mas desde que me casei minha mulher implorava para eu fechar a conta, e mulher sempre acaba ganhando no final né hauhauah (mulher ciumenta é foda!) :)
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew who Juanito was before he linked up with Page. Juanito was a very prominent boxing coach who had successful stints in mma. for example: He was Vitor’s trainer when Vitor destroyed wanderlei, back in the day.
The Wolfsliar? whatever! That wouldnt have been in my top 5, but maybe getting out of the country is whats best for him right now.
by john on Aug 28, 2008 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think PAge would of been better off at Tiger Schulmens..but John maybe it is.. just a thing to get away from the American Media.. that would makes sense.
by PhilQNY on Aug 28, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be that, because I’m sure even Rampage knows that isn’t the best training camp he could have gone to. Either way I don’t agree with it, I mean I don’t really know who is all over there in the Wolfslair, but Rampage has got to be the best of th best over there now, which isn’t all that great for his training now.
I just pray that he comes back more violent than ever! Rampage SMASH!!!
by Toms Bombs on Aug 28, 2008 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would of went to Greg Jackson’s Camp. there isn’t that much Drama going down in New Mexico..he could of focused and trained hard there.. and that whole I’m a WereWolf thing.. I’m down now with the " Wolfslair "..sounds high schoolish.
by PhilQNY on Aug 28, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was right, it is partly about getting away from the USA. Check out what the co-owner of the wolfsliar had to say:
"After the Forrest fight, he felt that his training hadn’t been quite right. He was deeply disappointed in his performance and he felt like he needed to change some things in his life. He came to us as we’ve all been friends for a long time. He feels that training in England can help him focus, which can be difficult in California because of his star status. He’s relatively unknown in England…He will be training when he can in England and the Wolfslair will be running his camps up in Big Bear when he is preparing for his fights."
by john on Aug 28, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can rampage leave the country while awaiting trial? I thought he couldn’t…
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
linx,
Depends on what restrictions the judge has placed on Page. Basically, does the court or state consider him a flight risk.
by Jeff on Aug 28, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Jeff, I thought that rule was for everyone!
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JOHN- i Agree….myself am greatly dissapointed in rampages decision to join wolf’slair…i was glad when i heard he left juanito…you know he is a great trainer and all…but he is like dellgarotte..he will take raw talent and mediocrity and take you to that level A game that is required to enter the top. now as for staying ahead of the game and staying the elite of the elite..you need a big name camp with a lot of top fighters to keep you ahead of your own hype you know.Jackson was suppose to leave to join a top notch camp that will take him to the next level of elite…not to a camp where they keep low level class A/top level B class fighters from becoming mediocre top B level fighters.to be honest..this move will be jackson’s undoing…he should have joined those big name camps, i think he likes wolflair..cuz they dont charge like juanito probably did,then again you pay for the best or bettter camps.shogun is gonna eat him alive if they fight and shogun is in shape and 100%
by santiago69us on Aug 28, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said that but if you knew him that was just words… as always.
No he wont lose because of that!
btw that was a wise decision by Quinton… when it’s not working you got to move on to soemthing fresh, he’s not the first and not the last to do so.
by JonnyBoy on Aug 28, 2008 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Jackson just say he is a werewolf? Um….?
by Robert on Aug 28, 2008 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s said that for years now lol. Sometimes I don’t know about him.
by Toms Bombs on Aug 28, 2008 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, sometimes he’s a werewolf, sometimes he’s god. He can never accept the fact that he’s only human lol.
by linx on Aug 28, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage needs alot of mental help. I hope that he gets it and heals. I really mean that.
by OJR on Aug 28, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
getting away from the US couldn’t hurt
by bareknucklepussy on Aug 27, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well will see how long that will last,i dont think he will be allowed a visa if he gets convicted on felony charges.
by jimmy v on Aug 27, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I was thinking. Good luck getting a visa.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 27, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not from the states so I could be wrong, but in Canada you don’t need a visa to go to places like England.
by Lucas mcfly on Aug 28, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SORRY GO TO DAVID LETTERMAN AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH AND THEN POST!!!!
by DBG on Aug 28, 2008 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Visa or not, if he’s awaiting trial, there’s no way they’ll let him out of the country! What’s next, extradition?
by GangOfOne on Aug 28, 2008 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If i am correct he is already there.
by IhitU.uHITfloor on Aug 28, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad news for rampage… this must be seen as a step back… he needed to join a top camp and have people who truly push him…
xtreme coutoure would be unrealistic due to wanderlei and forrest… also you need to keep this dude out in the sticks away from the cameras for a while… so vegas wouldnt be the best place
greg jacksons camp would have been good…but its questionable whether hed fit in with them having 2 contenders at 205 in jardine and rashad
other possibilities were miletich although they seem to be on a slide and lack top training partners for him
or possibly train with tito and titos team punishment… he and tito could push each other
same with franklin and the iowa guys
by bigjohn on Aug 27, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hell even training with ken-flo would be a good choice imo.
by jimmy v on Aug 27, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that UK would be a good place for him to go, to get away from the American media circus. But who trains at Wolfslair besides Bisping? If I remember correctly Bisping was the top dog at that facility. Who is going to push Rampage to be the best?
by jay on Aug 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i used to train with bisping and trust me he trains hard lol he wont let jackson get fat thats for sure
by boyer on Aug 28, 2008 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i call it too…so what…jorge gurgel fights hard and traind hard and his win loss ratio in the UFC is pushing it…..i mean you can train till you die, breaking a sweat doesnt mean sh*t man. its having your skills tested all the time by guys who have better aspects in some areas of MMA than you have. example…jason reinhardt trains his ass off and fights hard…he is 20-1 but he hes beat alot of new amateurs turning pro and guys with horrible loss records…lauzon walk thru him like nothing….jackson will loose alot of his luster. wait an see.
by santiago69us on Aug 28, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the guy has to go where he feels comfortable, which may be a good thing after all that has happened.
But yeah, I think Marc Delagrati and the guys at Sityodtong could really do something with Rampage.
I guess I’ll wait to see how he does with Wolfslair before making my judgment.
by MongoMan on Aug 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think camps are as important as everyone makes them out to be… GSP was basically fighting without a camp for a long time and doing very well
by brendan on Aug 27, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and to get to the next level, mentally and physically he went and started training at the best gym for him, Jackson. Of course GSP was doing well before he went there but since he got there he has trained and fought better. Rampage needs somewhere to improve his skills and Wolfslair isn’t pumping out #1 contenders like other gyms.
by jay on Aug 28, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But to be fair a lot of the main camps attract top performers, they don’t breed them.
I think it would be a good move to get away from the circus that will surround him in the US.
by Nick J on Aug 28, 2008 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point nick. i agree, top camps have some of the best fighters but those fighters arent usually from those camps
by medecine balls on Aug 28, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree…I think Mark Dellagrotte and the team at Sityodtong would have been a perfect fit for Rampage. Rampage already has the power and the wrestling, but, everyone that trains/trained with Dellagrotte has sharpened their already good skills.
Kenflo’s wrestling and Muay Thai are light years better thanks to Dellagrotte. Patrick Cote is knocking guys out since training there. Throw Marcus Davis and Jorge Rivera. There isn’t a real 205 contender in this camp either.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding at Rampage’s next fight.
by TabascoSAUCE on Aug 28, 2008 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC virtually gave Jackson the title because of his marketability. They knew he could beat chuck.
Ibarra or not, he’s already gone as far as he ever will.
by clayton on Aug 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right… because he’s more marketable than Chuck was. You don’t think he can compete with the best at 205? I think he can easily recapture the belt.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joshua, Rampage needs to recapture his mind first!!!
by JV on Aug 27, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ll see how he does in his next fight. I think he’ll be ok in the octagon. Saying he’s gone as far as he ever will is a little ridiculous. And the comment about the UFC handing him the title… c’mon now. He’s not my favorite fighter, but I expect Rampage to stick around the top 5 for a few more years. Sure, he seems a bit out of his mind, but he’s kind of always had that quality. I don’t think he’s ever been all there.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 27, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way…….Chuck beats him in a rematch.
by Brian "Bisping-Hater" on Aug 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fo magazine also has chuck calling out rampage for a 3rd fight. their site has the interview posted at08-27-08, but i wonder if this interview is alot older. it would seem that chuck has enough on his plate (rashad, a possible title shot with forrest, and a possible fight with a.silva) it makes me wonder if this interview wasnt done before the forrest/rampage fight or the rampage breakdown.
by b.w. on Aug 27, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you “no waying”, sir? Chuck might beat him in a 3rd fight, but what does that mean, exactly?
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 27, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
b.w. I’m not sayin your information is incorrect, but the terminology is… Chuck has already lost to ‘Page 3times. So if he’s calling him out, then it is for their 4th fight or the article you read is older than the 2nd UFC fight. Chuck got whooped in Pride by Rampage a few years back, then 2 fights in UFC.
by bk on Aug 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm… I can only remember him getting beaten once in the UFC.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right.. I’m a ‘tard. I was thinking of his back-to-back losses & for some reason I thought he had been given an immediate rematch. The 2nd loss was to Jardine. Sorry, I’ve got a migraine from hell right now & can’t think straight.
by bk on Aug 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not what I was saying JoshuaThomas. Chuck was and is infinitely marketable*, Chuck had been on top for a long time. Rampage coming in as somewhat of an unknown to manyt UFC fans combined with his image gave him a powerful draw and the UFC knew that. Hell, Rampage wouldn;t have been half as marketable if CHuck wasn;t so popular and dominant.
*In the best way for the UFC. He virtually markets himself at this point.
by clayton on Aug 28, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joshua, I’m not sure what’s going on here, but you’ve really misunderstood what I said. I meant that Rampage’s gone as far as he ever will. That doesn’t mean he’s suddenly going to stop fighting or even winning, just that I think he already climaxed, and his apex was in great part, from my perspective, manufactured by the UFC for PPV buys. Rampage has evolved as a fighter. He’s in better shape now than he ever seemed to be in pre UFC days, and he’s with a new camp that will likely see that he stays in good shape, but I just don’t think he’s a good enough fighter. He’s good, don’t get me wrong (again), but there will always be several if not many fighters in the game, especially in the new era of MMA, that will be better.
by clayton on Aug 28, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Shogun would beat him if they fought in the near future? Do you think Forrest takes a rematch? I really can’t think of more than maybe 2 that are better than him.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 28, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck lobbied for that fight. They had to talk Rampage into it because he was trying to fight a few more times before taking it. And seriously Chuck is by far their most popular fighter, it was a win win for them, either fighter could have come out of that one looking like the man. In that case it was Rampage. Now Forrest is the man. It’s the deepest division in the whole sport anywhere right now. I don’t see anyone going on a long run of dominance against the top competitors in the division right now. And there are a number of guys capable of capturing the title. Rampage is certainly one of them, but he’ll have to earn it.
by MongoMan on Aug 27, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not even close…the UFC gave Chauck what he wanted not Rampage…Chuck’s ego couldn’t take having an unavenged loss
by McArthur on Aug 28, 2008 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous claim. Chuck was the best thing going for the UFC in terms of marketability.
by Pat on Aug 28, 2008 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully things go well …..i do like the fact that its called Wolfslair though lol.
by Toad on Aug 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying this is or is’nt the case here, but it seems like standard operating procedure nowadays. Lose a big fight…fire your trainer. Of course it can matter, but I’m not buying that Juanito was Rampage’s problem.
by Jrandolph on Aug 27, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What? Most fighters are loyal to their camps win or lose. The most common reason a fighter switches camps is when there is a personality clash between fighters.
by Pat on Aug 28, 2008 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wolfslair? LMAO!!! The Rampage we all knew is long gone. “people dont understand destiny?” This MoFo is still talking crazy. Rampage’s next opponent is getting his ear bit off!
by JV on Aug 27, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LMFAO, JV… How the hell is he going to train in England??? Doesn’t he have some legal issues to deal with in the states? Rampage, Rampage, Rampage…
by BNF on Aug 27, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea thats true, how is he going to get ready in the UK with his legal stuff? I dont think he’ll last long at the Wolfslair?
by JV on Aug 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re his Visa, he is currently an innocent man so there will be no Visa issues until the trial is finished.
Even then he should be alright, there isn’t the same restriciotns re convictions like there is UK > US.
All of you dogging the wolfslair, have you been there, have you seen the facilities, have you seen the training they go through… no, well guess what Rampage has and he knows more than you.
They are hungry (no pun intended) and out to prove themselves.
Also as i stated earlier the ‘big’ camps such as Greg Jacksons, Randys etc don’t MAKE the great fighters, the great fighters go there to train.
by Nick J on Aug 28, 2008 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure about Visas in general, but I do know here in the states that if you are charged with a crime it is very common for you not to be allowed to leave the state until legal issues are over. So I would doubt his ability to leave the country. Like I said I’m not sure, just basing this on old stupid personal business.
by chefdaddy on Aug 28, 2008 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somthing about this troubles me. Just reading that statement it doesn’t sound like Rampage is right yet, I think it would be a mistake for him to fight so soon. Does anyone else get the same vibe from this?
by DB on Aug 27, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as people hate on Tito (and for good reason)
he has TREMEANDOUS cardio (possibly granted lyoto). he is a strong wrestler and Team Punishment would be the IDEAL place for rampage to be! not to mention it’s up in the mountains away from cameras unlike Vegas.
Tito and Jackson would be helluva team.
btw me and some friends met Tito and Jenna at Huntington Beach not too long ago AND my Highschool wrestling Alum who comes in to coach is Tito’s wrestling patrner.
by SoCalStunNa on Aug 27, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s already trained with Tito and Punishment before.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bj Penn should do a training Camp with Tito.
that would almost but INSURE Bj would come in IN phenomenal shape!
by SoCalStunNa on Aug 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since Sherk chilled with BJ in Hilo, I thought BJ should do the same and go to Minny with Sherk. Greg Nelson would whip BJ into great shape.
by Pat on Aug 28, 2008 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I like Rampage.
He’s falling fast, what the hell happened?
That camp sucks bigtime.
Bisping is a joke.
by sal on Aug 27, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is looking to deal with the problems he’s had. Whether it works or not, I don’t know. Who can predict these things?
This camp is far from high profile, but it may be a good fit. Rampage has seen what they have to offer, and chose them over anyone else, it may be a bad call. But I not sure they “suck big time”. And usless you’ve trained with them, I’m not sure how you would know yourself.
As far as Bisbing goes, he’s heavily hyped and a bit arrogant at times. But he is far from a joke. I am not saying he is top five or ever will be, the only one that can control that is Bisbing. But he’s fought some desent competition and done well. He deserves his spot.
by MongoMan on Aug 27, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one else even mentioned ATT yet. It could be a good fit. They have a couple of his could be future competitors too though don’t they?
by jay on Aug 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
becuase ATT’s Crem de la crem are ALL at 170…
by SoCalStunNa on Aug 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I think you are. Alves is the only top welterweight at ATT.
by DB on Aug 27, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t that where Thiago Silva trains? He could fight Page. Or maybe I’m mixed up too.
by jay on Aug 28, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and Wilson Gouveia and Thiago Alves. But it is in Miami and there are tons of distractions there.
by BNF on Aug 28, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ATT woudlnt work, too much publicity in miami. he needs to escape his star status for a while. He should pull a Chapelle and go see Africa, then come back and go to Greg jacksons
by medecine balls on Aug 28, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their website doesn’t mention it, also kinda blah looking too.
http://www.wolfslairmma.co.uk/index.html
Also wasn’t that a codename for Hitler’s bunker?
Oh here is a youtube of the place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDocq9iRKk&feature=related
Well goodluck to ya Rampage.
by ognitinoc on Aug 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rampage is done, another lose to silva or shogun and hes really gonna go nuts. Plus witout janito hes fucked…
by jizzo on Aug 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jizzo might be right, he better start controlling his destiny if he doesn’t want to end up like Mike Tyson. bet you his best friend Don King isn’t calling anymore. its too soon for him to fight. he should just stay at home, chill, and recoup. some people can’t handle falling off.
by kama kaze on Aug 28, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jizzo might be wrong to, I can’t see Rampage’s future so I don’t know myself. I’m just saying it’s a little too early to declare that the sky is falling. Some people pick themselves up after falling and reach greater heigths. Others go off the deep end. As bizarre as all these events have been, the explainations seem to hold up so far, and if Page gets the help he needs, and finds himself in a good place he should be fine. He’s a few dozen steps away from being Mike Tyson.
by MongoMan on Aug 28, 2008 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bisping will need him to cry on after the Crippler.
by Grembone on Aug 27, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s going to end up being the wolf-slayer…
by pYzam on Aug 27, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow now that bisping and rampage are training together bisping might actually have a chance of a ko against leben…
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Aug 27, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This a huge step for mma on tis side of the pond, a for champ and rop five ranked LHW choosing to have his training doin in the uk is big and speaks very well of were mma is going in the u.k Best of luck too him
by Irish on Aug 28, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He isn’t going to be able to train there, he is in the middle of court proceedings in the US. How can he say he is going to be training in the UK right now? He isn’t making any sense right now.
by jay on Aug 28, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the other who say Rampage will have trouble with a visa. Rampage better think about staying in his county of residence due to the probation thingy…Mr. Jackson you are hereby sentenced to 5 years felony probation, you are therfore remanded to the custody of the probation department who will complete a 903© report and return it to the court regarding your sentencing…
by holmz on Aug 28, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s not on probabtion. Only probation or a warrant could keep him from obtaining a visa, which he has neither.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 28, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
id rather toke and watch recess
by medecine balls on Aug 28, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well there goes jacksons career. SHOGUN!!!!!!!!!!
by Tsunami Bong on Aug 28, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’ll probably end up killing Bisping in a sparring session.
by Sir_alan on Aug 28, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is great news! Rampage needs something new for a while and its good for uk mma! it doesnt mean its forever so stop saying its a step back! Rampage needs to be happy!
by Tony on Aug 28, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rampage needs to get back on the road, after i heard about the accident i was shocked personaly i thought he was crazy but its good to hear that he is not. I
by adil on Aug 28, 2008 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’ll probably end up killing Bisping in a sparring session.
lol
by adil on Aug 28, 2008 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This man cannot handle a loss, how pathetic……
by Colin D on Aug 28, 2008 3:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OFF THE TOPIC
Did anyone watch TapOut tonight? That was the best episode I’ve ever seen. I wish Albert hasn’t acted the way he did after the fight, but I’m sure he will change.
by pUniSHment on Aug 28, 2008 3:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The change of scenery will probably be good for Jackson. Plus if he gets sentenced to some jailtime, he can pull a Polanski and just stay in the UK for good.
by Matt D. on Aug 28, 2008 4:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ive been to a Bisping seminar at the Wolfslair!
Its at the end of a industrial estate!
Nothing glamorous out there! Its a bit like scotland tbh
by braveheart on Aug 28, 2008 5:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson was suppose to leave to join a top notch camp that will take him to the next level of elite…not to a camp where they keep low level class A from becoming top B level fighters….to be honest..this move will be jackson’s undoing…he should have joined those big name camps, i think he likes wolflair..cuz they dont charge like juanito probably did…then again you pay for the best…shogun is gonna eat him alive if they fight and shogun is in shape.
by santiago69us on Aug 28, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Rampage is happy then I am happy.
by Wanderlei Fan on Aug 28, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At first it seemed a bit of a strange choice but the Wolfslair might actually work out well for him. I’m sure Kongo will be there quite a bit. They could probably bring over some really good French kickboxers too.
by RobH86 on Aug 28, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It think Rampage should train at chute box. That would be cool! I hope this camp doesn’t effect his performance negatively.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 28, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid move. British MMA is worlds behing America’s. Michael Bisping is still a can at 185.
by Brandon A on Aug 28, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A can? That might be going a little too far.
by JoshuaThomas on Aug 28, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did any of you read the actual article???
they said if he was fighting in the uk for an event, his whole camp would be here.
BUT, if he was fighting in vegas (as normal), he’d be doing most of his training at big bear in northern california (where he trained with Ibarra.
reading helps.
by ben on Aug 28, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DBG-
Good luck and God Speed when you hit the Sandbox. I been there too. Get home safe. Thank you for being apart of the Brotherhood. Drive on…..You know things a civilian don’t.
by zuluzerosix on Aug 28, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage knows what he is getting. He finalised his training at the Wolfslair for the Hendo fight. The first part of his training was on the mountain but if I am not mistaken that is one of the Wolfslair coaches workin with him right there.
by Tommy on Sep 13, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is here in the UK. I saw him today.
by Tommy on Sep 15, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DBG, I wish you and your family well and I hope you return to America unharmed. However, you should keep in mind that the Bush Administration messed up this country and the economy. The Iraq war is a huge blunder/disaster. Iraq was a secular country, Iraq had nothing to do with 911! Saddam was not an Islamic fundamentalist. Saddam was our friend/ally when Bush senior was Vice President. Prior to the Gulf War #1, when Saddam was killing the Kurds and wiping out villages in Iraq (killing his own people), Saddam was still our friend. Why didn’t we try to oust Saddam in those days?
One of the main premises of the Iraq War #2 was WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! No WMD’S were found in Iraq!!
Too many people in Iraq have been killed and too many of our troops have been killed and/or maimed as a result of this unnecessary war! All of us have to pay for this war with our pocketbooks and many of the troops have to pay for this Bush/Cheney negiligence with their lives! Don’t get me wrong, not all Republicans are misguided, but we have too many belligerent leaders in the Republican party. Many of them (ie Bush) are CHICKENHAWKS. Unlike many of today’s fake conservatives, Dwight D. Eisenhower was a true conservative. He believed in limited government, low taxes, a strong economy and he was always looking out for America’s interests! Eisenhower always made it a point to AVOID UNNECESSARY wars.
Today, Ron Paul is similar in many ways to Eisenhower. Ron Paul is one of the best candidates for president, but he has no chance. Ron Paul is much better than McCain and unlike McCain, Ron Paul understands the economy. However, Ron Paul does not conform to the all of the dogma of the Repbulican party, so he had no chance to be the Republican candidate. Unfortunately, I am a conservative who will be voting for the Democrats this time. Hopefully, they can begin to get us out of this mess!
by Roland on Oct 13, 2008 4:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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