The only way to beat machida is to wait by the side of the cage,stick your leg out and hope he trips while he is running by

Machida is about as aggressive as a stoned ladybug. If this fight ends quickly, then Thiago is the winner.

Ha, I had to read it 3 times to make sure I didn’t misread. Machida is as aggressive as a Peanut-Jelly-Sandwich.

Just cause Machida isnt as aggressive as Thiago it does not mean that only thiago has the ability to end the fight.

Fans should really get excited over this fight because its a fight between 2 REAL (undefeated) Contenders. This is the fight I anticipate most this year. I really cant wait to see this fight. I have no F’in idea who will win this one.

I hate to go against Silva, but I think Machida is to good for most of the 205 division.

I think he’s right, Machida is aggressive when someone is pushing the action the way thiago should. Fights like the soko fight shows this, fights such as the tito fight wasn’t fast paced because tito wasn’t pushing the action. Machida is a counter fighter, he needs aggressive fighters to show what he can do…

for a very interesting new interview with Rampage go to fiveouncesofpain.com I try posting it but Mania wont let me. Its a real good read.

This should spark a MONSTER debate on this site because rapage talks about loosing all respect for Forrest as a man!

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/

Good stuff John..I would side with Page on this one.

this fight has machida winning by tko all over it.

Machida is as aggressive as his opponent as stated above. Jacob sucks, so obviously Machida is going to look boring. Fighting someone like Thiago will bring out the best and most aggressive Machida any of us have seen. Thiago is one of my favorites, but Machida is scary, for anyone to fight. His style compares to Anderson Silva, only he doesn’t use those tools as effectively as Anderson.

This is going to be a damn good fight, Thiago might be the one to beat Machida. He has to stay aggressive and in his face long enough to get it to the ground, where Thiago can still hold his own against Machida. It’ll be tough for him though, and the winner will definately earn this win.

Hahahahaha!!!!

You would side with Rampage, PhilQNY.

You are a famous Rampage lover and an even more famous Griffin hater.

I like both fighters but Rampage clearly has lost it since losing his belt. This interview of his just magnifies the fact that he is still recovering mentally. He is still bitter and resentful. Page should concentrate on cleaning up his legal problems, getting his head straight and getting back in the gym so he can reclaim that title. Talking smack about Griffin just makes Page look childish.

OJR: I like Griffin, but didn’t feel he derserved a shot at the LHW title just because he rebounded from his loss to Jardine by defeating via Decision Hector Rameriz.. and taping Shogun..in Shogun’s UFC debut.

I do side with Page.. Because I would feel the same way. If I had a 5 round fight that was as close as that fight.. then hey Forrest should give him a rematch. Following UFC86 PAge wild out.. that is not at question here at all.. and he needs to regroup, recover, handle his legal and Mental health issues..

Did Forrest beat Page.. yep the judges said gave him the nod..Did Forrest convincengly beat Page. nope…Did a slop sided victory given to Forrest..fair.. Nah. did Forrest show up with a tight ass game plan.. yep. Did Page and most of us here taught that RAMPAGE JACKSON.. was going to power slam Forrest thru the earth’s mantle. yep. Did Page talk smack on the TUF.yep.

My thing is Page took the UFC LWH title from Chuck.. Forrest was handed the title from Page.

What I hear Page saying is.. After that fight.. even Forrest knew he won a razor sharp decision..and to be crowned UFC Champ.. under these circumstances.. would call for an immediate title shot. Forrest is facing the winner of Chuck/Evans.. even though if Rashad(IF) wins.. then it’s the winner of Lyoto/Thiago that should get a shot. This is the best possiable scenario for Chuck to be in.. cuz him beating another good wrestler..improved striker in Rashad.. will crusie him back to a title shot.. where Page is not going to be there. I agree that PAge needs help.. and because of his post UFC86 actions.. a rematch is out of hte question..but if he didn’t do all the craziness then..for sure he should of been the next opponent for Forrest.

Your reasons are not founded on any type of fact but I appreciate your explanation.

OJR: Rampage is one ovf the few fighters in mma that can actually make a statement like that because Rampage has always been honest about his performances. When he beat Ninja, he admitted that he did not win the fight and even gave his trophy to Ninja. rampage has been very honorable in that respect. I agree with Rampage. I also expected Forrest to step up and make some comments to the affect of: It was a very close fight and we will have to do it again, but those comments never came. I am in the minority that dont believe that Forrest will defend his title on new years….I would like him to, but I think he will sit out for a while and milk his title reign!

Rampage is not wrong at all!

great post Phil!

The odds to this fight really have me baffled. I expected to see Machida open as the favorite and Thiago pretty close to even, perhaps in the neighborhood of"

Machida -160
Silva +120

However, the odds have opened at:

Machida -280
Silva +210

Those odds give Silva a 32% chance of winning the fight. IF you think he wins that fight more than 1 out of 3 times, then a bet on him would be profitable. The oddsmaker are saying that Machida wins this fight just about 3 out of 4 times.

QUICK QUESTION: Do you think that these lopsided odds are justifieable or do you think that they are way out of line?

If there is someone anyone should have less respect for as a man, it should be Rampage. Rampage gets almost an immediate shot at Chuck and we are questioning whether Forrest deserved his? I just don’t understand that. Also Forrest clearly came game to fight against Rampage and showed a great amount of respect for his opponent. On the other hand Rampage stated that Forrest needed to get past the third for Rampage to respect him. Well Forrest not only did that, he took him to decision. Even more Rampage was sleeping when Forrest had him on the ground, wasn’t even trying to improve position. You know IMO Rampage deserved his loss more than Forrest deserved his win, and this is why Forrest was the clear cut winner that night. Forrest now has the most prestigeous title in MMA and will be defending it against any of about 5 men who could kill a normal man on any given night with his fist. Rampage needs to get in line like everyone else and work his way back up to the top. When I say work his way back to the top, he knows he’ll get another shot if he wins his next fight. So it also doesn’t make sense because he knows when he fights there will probably be a title fight on the same card with Forrest and Chuck, and then he’ll be facing the winner of that fight next (if he wins his own fight), how can you complain with that, its Forrest or Chuck? W/e I just think Rampage is mad because he is going to get handled by Wandy and he wont’ get his title shot.

John,

Here is that interview;

    Jackson says that he has "lost a lot of respect" for Griffin in the wake of the fight, largely because the new champion has not been talking of a rematch despite winning the belt in controversial fashion.

    "After the fight, I said ‘I’ve got to give you a lot of respect, because you hurt my leg and you had a good game plan’," he explains.

    "But now, I don’t respect him as a man. Because if it was me, I would have said, ‘I have to give him a rematch right away, to remove all doubt’.

    "I’m a man and when you fight it’s all about honour. I’m not angry at him or anything, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve lost respect for him as a man."

In his last two fights Griffin has beaten the two men who were widely considered the best in the world at 205. He beat the crap out of Rua before tapping him at the end (and spare me the excuses about his knee). Then he dominated at least three rounds against Rampage, including a 10-8 round. Any discussion about the top LHWs HAS to include Forrest. I know a lot of people who have been following UFC since the Shamrock-Gracie days still consider Griffin a fluke because he came through a reality show, but he earned his title shot and earned the belt. Rampage lost, and if he wants the belt back he has to win a few fights and earn a shot. Forrest even acknowledged right after the fight that they would probably have to do it again soon, so Rampage has no reason to bitch. He had 25 minutes to win that fight and he failed miserably. He has nobody to blame but himself, so he needs to STFU.

I believe forrest did say we ar going to have to do that again! His exact words were,(I think that was pretty close,and i didn’t want to Because he hits to F’n Hard but i think were going to have to do that shit again) and apperantly he did earn it,and he beat the champ. People need to quit getting so butt hurt because there fighter lost,even if it was a decision,as long as it was a good exciting fight.Every man in this world is beatable,weather it’s rampage,chuck,anderson,fedor,machida,so on and so forth.
Quit wining,deal with it.If any of these guys deserve a title shot they will get one,when has the ufc acted like elite and not given a title shot to a deserving,fighter.

And just because you were champ doesn’t mean u should get a rematch right off,best example chuck vs randy, after randy lost did he get a rematch right off ,no he had to fight van arvsdale,yea randy got ko’d against chuck but .Rampage lost the fight lost the belt he should deal with it take the road back and if he gets it back then he deserves it. If not then he doesn’t.

thanks OJR. I knew when i read the quote that there would be like 50 who would say something about Machida being boring or something along those lines. nice to know there are still a few people on this site who are actually intelligent…

it’s a pity it’s neither of you

JJ the Troll- It must make you feel good to go around and make quick *sshole remarks. However I would like to know what you find unintelligent about my post, perhaps your opinion contradicts reality?

JJ-

U need a hug.

Bloodymess-

Your welcome.

I like Machida, as a person. His fighting style won’t gain him any friends from the casual fan couch though. The casual fan wants to see knockouts and quick subs. They don’t know what a good game plan looks like and when they see someone back pedal to get into better angles, they think the guy is running. Machida is a great fighter but I just want to see a little more offense, not because his style is boring, but just so we can see more of the good moves that bloddymess mentioned. I mean everything he does is awesome, I just want a little more of it.

Not just american, european, american, canadian, and jewish…

Thank you Pw.

Talking about nukes.. This Hydrogen bomb explosion in Russia.. F$#%d up my eyes.. It’s your there..

http://www.jokeroo.com/extremevideos/hydrogen_bomb_explosion.html

Guys.. watching this vid I felt like I was there.. during this explosion..I don’t think weapons like this should even exsist. One wack job with that in his pocket..and " It’s the end of the world as we know it "

Dave that is a tired old argument that makes little to no sense. War will exist whether America is the ones who start them or not. Is it not better to start the war than to have someone else start it? Iran is a rogue state that makes the rules up day by day. To put what I say into context, I am Canadian but feel Bush has done a good job of keeping North America safe. I don’t like him,like most Canadians. If you think that American wars only effect Americans you are wrong. We need to keep all wars away from our borders, and the best way to do that is to keep these countries in check on their turf. Iran is very clear as to what their plans are for nuclear power and will stop at nothing to obtain it. The US and every country with a sense of intuitiveness knows Iran would use a nuclear weapon at the drop of a hat. My boss was born in Iran and fought in the war against Iraq. They are a ruthless, callous, religiously fanatical people and hate the US for helping Iraq in that war. They wouldn’t drive passenger planes into buildings, they would fly weaponized attack planes into your neighborhoods. They don’t like you and are taking a harsh stance against your commander and chief, I thought this is when you guys stand up and lead the way to put them back in line. You would have to admit(even if I usually hate your country) that of all the super-powers who ‘owned’ the world in history, the US has the best “life model”.