Martial arts gone bad: Taekwondo referee gets punished after loss at Beijing Olympic games
by MMAmania.com on Aug 23, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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Props: SportsNet.ca
Quoteworthy:
"Angel Valodia Matos (L) of Cuba kicks referee Chakir Chelbat of Sweden after he lost his bronze medal contest in the men's +80 kg taekwondo competition against Aman Chilmanov of Kazakhstan during the 2008 Beijing Olympic in Beijing on August 23, 2008."
So much for the spirit of international competition -- Citius, Altius, Fortius!
(Thanks to the MMAmania reader who sent this in ... I can't seem to find who it was.)
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Sorry to hijack newfie, but I gotta! To all you guys who are about to read this thread, it contains posts mainly by people who didn’t even bother watching what happened, thus most posts are id*otic. Please actually view what happened before commenting. Thanks.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One , if your the newfie from above, I wasn’t adressing you disrespectfully. Two, very intelligent comment, I’m not sure if I should debate anything with someone of your mental prowess. Three, suck my c@ck you stupid 15 year old little b*tch.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice one chef. This Newbie guy doesn’t know the meaning of “intelligent” rebuttals apparently. Sorry newb, u sound gay when you told chefdaddy to blow you….Hehe!!
by TheNegation on Aug 23, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya…Its nap time for the grumpy…ANywho…theres a video of what happend on MMATKO . com…check it out…and, also the trainer was banned for life from the olympics…
by ntvmma on Aug 23, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone is pretty tough on a blog! you guys are a joke
by newfie-mma-fan on Aug 24, 2008 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aren’t you on a blog, thus making yourself a joke there Newfie…
I appreciate the guys/girls on here that add something to the topic Mania gives us. I don’t often post because lots of time someones already said my opinion.
Im sure there is a few of us on here that are equally as tough on the street so don’t generalize and maybe pay attention to the topic and quite wasting mine and everyone elses time that come on here to debate mma.
Im not like that so don’t ask me to blow you.
If you want to pick a fight, use yellowpages and find a gym like the rest of us.
Fuckin Newbies.
by Big Zino on Aug 24, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it contains you saying the same thing over and over and over.Quit taking everything so serious,and have a beer or something
by DBG on Aug 23, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chefdaddy after reading your OC posts all over this page, I would kick you in the face and you WOULD fall down.
by BLOodyMEss on Aug 24, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen it yet, but the ref’s and judges are not the sharpest.
by Ro-J on Aug 24, 2008 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys crack me up hahahhaa.
and halextito with the uber smart dont fuck with the cubans comment hahahaha. i mean, ‘dont fuck with the cubans’ why? because they cowardly hit you with weak ass kicks? hahaha.
and whats up with all the hate with soups and chefdaddy?
by weoweoweo on Aug 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as a guy who trained taekwondo for 11 years since a child… though he shouldnt have done what he did, i understand the frustration he prob went through. guys you have to understand the WTF is a bunch of political sport corruption nowadays! this martial art really is about respect and honor before anything else, but when there are officials running this beautiful sport into greed and corruption, one cant help but feel dissapointed. i used to be a competitor in state championships and the scoring and favoritism i would see was unbelievable. its a shame this sport has now become what it is in such a short time in the limelight!
by blah on Aug 24, 2008 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The story coming from the cuban camp is that Matos suffered a broken toe on his left foot from an illegal foot stomp earlier in the fight. Due to poor comunication (Swedish ref and cuban fighter) the cubans thought they were going to be awarded the fight due to the illegal blow.
This would be a fair arguement IF the fighter who was unable to continue due to a broken toe did not get up and high kick the ref in the face with said broken toe.
The cuba would have had a good chance of an appeal if not for his temper.
Could you imagine if rumble johnson had smacked the ref after his last fight??? Similar situation.
by MoonUK on Aug 24, 2008 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and i’ve seen many tkd bouts where time has been wasted through claimed injurys whilest the fighter just gassed!
by awt on Aug 24, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chefdaddy= Whining bitch lol :)
The Cuban BUM has been banned for life along with his coach which serves him right. He was disqualified for taking too much injury time after he was dropped by his opponent. Basically he had his ass handed to him and cried like a baby cos he couldn’t recover in time. Conclusion HE LOST!! The Cuban’s havr done well in this Olympics NOT. Not 1 gold and the usually dominant boxing team have lost 4/4 inals they managed to get through to. Shame really NOT!! :)
by mrangry on Aug 24, 2008 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was watchin this live – it was too funny, when the dood flipped, no one wanted to get near him – he just went crazy out of the blue (like an idiot). Hes banned from international competition – forever i think (but not sure)
The ref’s face in this pic is priceless – goofy or what
by Insain on Aug 23, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What? The ref went right up to him after being kicked, and several other people approached him as well. Are we all talking about the same poor sport who took a cheap shot at a ref (who made an accurate, fair call? You can even hear the ref tell him he has 15 seconds. The guy was stalling.)
by Soups on Aug 23, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soups, you and I might be the only two who actually watched this. I’m not sure what most people here are talking about.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I have to agree with soups and chefdaddy. This is not the first time this guy has been in the olympics. He is a gold medal winner from 2000. He knows/knew the rules regardless of whatever is said coming out of he camp to try and protect the reputation of the team, coach, athlete, and country. He had to be standing and ready to fight after a minte then he could ask for more inury time. Listen to the video it explains it all.
Secondly this is the olympics. I do not care how stressfull or terrible a call is- the Olympics are all about sportmanship. What this guy did disgraced all of his teammates, coaches, country, and most of all Fidel,lol. I wouldn’t be suprised if this guy comes up missing in a few weeks.
by Da Monkey on Aug 24, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? He didn’t even knock the ref down, much less out.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im with you Kas How many times do you have to post,(no he didn’t even get knocked down)
by DBG on Aug 23, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHhah pretty funny Dude looks like he just smelled a a rotten fart
by DBG on Aug 23, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAAHAHa
The ref got KTFO…I know its not something to laugh at but i couldnt help it HAHAHA
by matthew on Aug 23, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, he didn’t even get knocked down.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheff: So u r saying that the referee just took the Kick on the chin without going down? Damn thats impressive! Props to the referee!
by john on Aug 23, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john, there’s a video link below this post a little bit. Props to whoever put it up. And yeah, the ref took the kick and it backed him up maybe 3 feet. So f*ck the guy that did it, if he can’t beat up an unsuspecting ref, he shouldn’t fighting anyway. And a lifetime ban for this douche is taking it easy on him. It would’ve been great if the ref got pissed and beat the cr@p out of that @sshole!
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would have been great! What an A-hole!
by john on Aug 23, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
spot on hes only a tkd guy anyway take his ass down and go kung fu on him
by the heat on Aug 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now chefdaddy I didn’t watch this, but my post still has meaning. Taekwondo kicks are with the foot and therefor do not have much power behing them. Most often kicks in taekwondo are used to score points. So with that being said it’s no surprise the ref wasn’t KOed. Not saying he wasn’t trying to hurt the ref, but if you have been kicking that way all your life it’s no surprising that he kicked with the foot.
by DB on Aug 23, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand DB. LOL (at myself for the most part). I have absolutely no idea why this got under my skin. I guess the assumptions made w/o fact. I was just a little shocked or….whatever…..at how many people responded so strangely. Someone above advised me to go have a nap and a beer, probably good advice. Part of it was my subtle attempt at showing irony by responding to posts that said the same thing over and over, with my own posts saying the same thing over and over. Where I “got my back up” some was people who responded rudely to posts that weren’t rude or directed at them at all.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it wasn’t. The ref didn’t even get knocked down.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chefdaddy your crazy,,,i saw it happen het got KTFO!!!! then he tried to get back up and the cubano gave him a hurrican kick followed bya drill cannon kick
by santiago69us on Aug 24, 2008 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He kicked him so hard he turned him chinese.
by ole manacheitz on Aug 23, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No , he didn’t. The ref didn’t even get knocked down.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the heavyweight champ of this discussion – CHEFDADDY! what a hero that guy is
by newfie-mma-fan on Aug 23, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look chum……P. all I was pointing is the obvious that so many missed or didn’t view at all. They probably looked at the picture and made an assumption. You don’t like my comments little girly-man? Use your little girly muscles to scroll past them.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha get a life by and do something besides post on a blog!
by newfie-mma-fan on Aug 24, 2008 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a former fighter in similar competitions that is the rule that doesn’t have to be written you never strike a ref. Martial Arts is suppose to be about honour and respect. This is a disgrace and something that is in no way funny. This guy should be barred from competition for life, Regardless how upset with the decision you may be you take your loss like a man.
by Tim on Aug 23, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU DONT PAY ME IN TIME
by SCARFACE on Aug 23, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UNREAL!!!
Anyone have a video link to this????
by fightfan on Aug 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what a sore fucking loser.
by sticky fingers is gay on Aug 23, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The real sticky fingers was probably at this event live. He probably told this guy with the catchers chest pad on to kick that guy with no chin in the face. Sticky fingers is not gay my friend he is omnipotent.
by jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found the video of it, what A DOUCHE.
by Video of It Click Here on Aug 23, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey thanks for posting that link. All I can say is Matos behaved like a complete donkey, he is well deserving of a lifetime ban.
by Scott on Aug 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he did get a lifetime ban which he should have. There is something else about this that I don’t like though that no one has pointed out. The guys opponent doesn’t celebrate when he first awarded the victory. However after the guy kicks the ref he starts celebrating and running around like an idoit. I don’t know if he got nervous and didn’t know how to handle the situation or whatever.
by dana is cheap on Aug 23, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you taking about? What video did you watch? The guy celebrated immediately upon seeing the other DQ’d. (Seriously, half the comments here don’t match the what really happened at all. lol )
by Soups on Aug 23, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DANA YOU HAVE TO GET THIS CUBAN IN THE UFC JUST FOR FIGHTERS PROTECTION AGAINT REFERES LIKE MAZAGATTI AND MAGGLIOTA . SCARFACE AND VALODIA MATOS ARE MY HEROS
by HALEXTITO on Aug 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the ref knew how to do a double leg takedown that taekwondoe guy would have lost a decision for sure.
But on a serious note that guy should be banned from all competitions involving any kind of martial arts.
by DirtyML on Aug 23, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THE REFERE SLAYER JAJAJJAJAJAJAJA WELCOME TO HAVANA
by HALEXTITO on Aug 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
arnt you a human prize.guess its true,stupid people compensate with caps lock keys.
by whimwham on Aug 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see the Link? The ref didn’t even get knocked down!
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times are you going to say that,like a drunk guy with only one story.
by DBG on Aug 23, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many times will you ask him?
by medecine balls on Aug 23, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you medecine balls. chefdaddy needs to shut up and get a life. He has posted 11 comments on this page. Get a life.
by dana is cheap on Aug 23, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why he won’t lay off anyone. Almost all of his comments have been negative.
by dana is cheap on Aug 24, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there wasn’t anything negative about them, dana is cheap. I left a post as to why I did it that way up above. What can be negative about the facts? Simply b/c people don’t like to see them (granted, lol, multiple times)?
by chefdaddy on Aug 24, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah well I don’t feel like arguing anymore. Contrats on the free playboy chefdaddy.
by dana is cheap on Aug 24, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think so but he was banned for life.
by dana is cheap on Aug 24, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lifetime ban from international competition.
What a sore loser – if you are at the olympics, at least take a look at the rules of your sport. Pathetic…
by YouTapped on Aug 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the judging has been bullsh*t totally !! that’s why he flipped out …the medals were decided before the olympics began..!
by bDavid on Aug 23, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats exactly why mma should not go to the olympics. Because the judges make very poor decisions . i dont like how boxing , wrestling & judo is judged in thne olympics . almost pathtic.
by b.d.w.fan on Aug 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol… protect yourself at all times REF!
by kama kaze on Aug 23, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything that Ernie Reyes Jr. can get a black belt in before he’s like 13 shouldn’t really be an Olympic sport anyway.
That dude is a total douche. Way to represent your country jackass. BANNED.
by Jesse on Aug 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the cuban went down with an injury and waited to be attended too but by the time trainers or doctors got to him and started attending his injury he was disqualified. the allotted injury time was only ONE MINUTE. thats all they get if they go down with an injury. i can’t believe they get so little time for recovery. The referree disqualified him while he was still on the ground while they looked at his leg or ankle. he got up limping as soon as the ref called the fight and amazingly healed so fast that he was able to throw a kick. he didn’t snap because he lost the fight… he snapped because he was disqualified for being injured.
by killa kill on Aug 23, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mania,
I sent that one in earlier today on another thread. Thanks for sharing it. Way too funny but I will say the judging has been a little suspect to say the least. I saw a couple of matches and when you would have thought they would have scored a point they didn’t.
This guy apparently freaked out because he got disqualified for taking a time out longer than one minute in the bronze medal fight. Whooops!
by Calgary MLS on Aug 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From my experience, most of the people I know that take taekwondo are usually really pampered and disrespectful of others, including there sin sea.
by Wanderlei Fan on Aug 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, that is funny. Friggen Taekwondo guys. sheesh~!
Also, I used to swim in the “sin sea”.
by InsaneRide on Aug 23, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you don’t know anybody who takes Taekwondo. I’ve been in the art for years and it’s one of the most respectful places I’ve ever been. People who don’t respect their instructor quickly learn respect or leave the sport. Way to make a blanket judgment.
BTW “sin sea” is for practitioners of Karate. Not Taekwondo.
by FlipperGonzo on Aug 23, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey what is this Tae Kwon Do guy doing in an MMA site? You guys just put hand to hand combat back 10 years today. That is why I watch MMA and not that barbaric sport. You guys could learn a thing or two from the classy individuals of our sport, bunch of crazy pad wearing, fake punching maniacs.
by jay on Aug 23, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow calm down guys, tae kwon do is a great base to start out on, it teaches you footing, distance,plus flexibility. So stop doging on it.
by NewGuyTheGunMan on Aug 24, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matos was winning 3-2, with 1:02 in the second round, when he fell to the mat after being hit by his opponent, Kazakhstan’s Arman Chilmanov. He was sitting there, awaiting medical attention, when he was disqualified for taking too much injury time. Fighters get one minute, and Matos was disqualified when his time ran out.
Matos angrily questioned the call, pushed a judge, then pushed and kicked referee Chakir Chelbat of Sweden. Matos then spat on the floor and was escorted out.
full article
by kama kaze on Aug 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
read this over on mmalinker.com
Former UFC star Ortiz signs with rival Affliction
August 23, 2008, 12:02 pm
It seems that former UFC light heavyweight champion, "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Tito Ortiz, has finally signed with rival promotion Affliction in time for their next PPV event on October 11th.
by whimwham on Aug 23, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
went there. went to all their links. still seems just like a rumor to me, nothing concrete, just a couple of guys who say they have sources. it wasnt but a few days ago that guys like tom atencio and and donald trump jr. were saying that he wasnt going to be signed. still you never know. if true i would be very anxious to see what kind of deal he settled for and to see who he is fighting. babalu is already signed to fight southworth and the next afflicton show is like 6 weeks away. i’ll believe it when the big boys post it.
by b.w. on Aug 23, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he shouldnt of kicked the ref in the face butt the ref totally ripped him off and robbed dude of the win by D.Qing him for injury time.
by b.d.w.fan on Aug 23, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, what you’re saying is that the ref should have ignored the rules?
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mabye he wasnt robbed. honestly im not into olmypic style judo so i dont know all the rules. .. what i do know is that they need to update the way the judge the combat sports .
by b.d.w.fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? He got DQ’d for breaking the rules, man. He was stalling, straight-up.
by Soups on Aug 23, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didnt rob the dude of anything. It’s in the rules. The clock ran out, the guy was still down. End of it. Why should the guy get special treatment? The ref was in the right 100%.
by Rampage711 on Aug 23, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so injured is his left foot to still kick the guy in the head, haha\
by Egads on Aug 23, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND whats up with the ties the refs wear?? what were they thinking.
by b.d.w.fan on Aug 23, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHA! is that a warner brothers looney toon tie?
by kama kaze on Aug 23, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think its an animaniacs pinky & the brain style tie.
by b.d.w.fan on Aug 23, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid thing for anyone to say but I guess when you can hide your identity or change your name at anytime, you feel you have the right to make racist comments.
by Bic on Aug 23, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t moderate me mania this guy is about as big a bitch as Matos was for kicking that ref!
by Bic on Aug 23, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Random Task, that is actually the stupidest f’in comment ever on this site. Keep your racial views to yourself, or go somewhere else please.
by chefdaddy on Aug 23, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just a idiot, not “a epic threat to martial arts” LOL ..it was just a idiot.
by MMANL on Aug 23, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what the fucks that got to do with it? plenty of white boxers have hit refs
by medecine balls on Aug 23, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you have to admire his fight…. i would kick him with the other foot
Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com
by Rob Dib on Aug 23, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to say one thing people have complained say gilbert yvel for attacking an official but damn whne he kicks a ref they go down and stay down.
by Joe on Aug 23, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny you should mention Gilbert Yvel, that’s exactly who I was reminded of when I watched it.
by Scott on Aug 23, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all understand the ref did not get knocked down from your previous 20 comments.
But Chef are you sure he did not go down?
by MMAMaSS on Aug 23, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol! That’s a video I definitely don’t want to watch.
by chefdaddy on Aug 25, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What A Jerk
It looks like the ref TRIED to block it though…
by RipTheSystem on Aug 23, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The ref was a spaz.
But the ref in the boxing match should have gotten KOed from the cuban.
What a slack fight that was.
by kick2dascrotum on Aug 23, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should have the refs be fighters, even if it didnt make a difference in how they judge it, at least a wrestler or jits guy could have takin his ass out on world wide tv. that would have been just great
by medecine balls on Aug 23, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The referee is a Taekwondo-fighter and trainer here in Sweden.
by Tim on Aug 24, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly it comes down to the athletes environment. Two Cuban wrestlers, both medal contenders defected to different countries and their names were yoel romero 84Kg world champ and Alex Rodriguez 120K world champ. I dont think they have the greatest income and life in comparison to athletes from the US who take in millions in endorsement deals. I bet he was just pissed because he knew he could continue on… but when he went by the ref, the ref raised his hand at him in a very mean demeanor, and that’s when the Cuban barely touched him. If the bronze won him money for his family, and he lost because some punk ref wouldn’t let him continue on. I think any of us would hit him..
by Sandman on Aug 24, 2008 2:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So being poor is an excuse to assault people?
I’ll have to remember that next time I’m robbing someone at a bank.
by DirtyML on Aug 24, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These Olympics are nuts. Best games ever.
Some boxer tried to do a Tyson and bite british boxer James Degale in the final in Beijing!!! Degale won the Olympic gold mainly due to the penalty points for the Mad Mike impersonation.
by RobH86 on Aug 24, 2008 6:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So since he is cuban that means he is poor and needs the medal to feed his family?
How many people think the SANDMAN is an idiot after what he said two comments earlier???
by Capt. Doug on Aug 24, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell’s yeah. I heard he died later on in the hospital.
by Landowner on Aug 24, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing justifies it. No matter the circunstances. NOTHING justifies it. I hear that he’s banned of any taekwondo competition. If that’s true, it’s a fair punishment
by Cristiano from Brazil on Aug 24, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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