Brock Lesnar next fight could be at UFC 91 in November
by MMAmania.com on Aug 21, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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Brock Lesnar could return to heavyweight action at UFC 91 on November 15, according to TwinCities.com.
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"Former Gophers wrestler Brock Lesnar, who is 2-1 as a mixed martial arts fighter, found out this week that Ultimate Fighting Championship would like him to compete next on a November card, but his opponent and site remain undetermined."
The pay-per-view (PPV) event, which is tentatively slated to take place in Portland, Ore., is currently without a marquee main event. Top lightweights Kenny Florian and Joe Stevenson, however, are expected to compete on the card, providing a solid complement to whatever headline match up is booked.
Lesnar -- who earned his first victory inside the Octagon over Heath Herring with a unanimous decision at UFC 87: "Seek and Destroy" -- is rumored to be facing Cheick Kongo next. Nothing at this point, however, is official.
He, too, is a big draw regardless of his opponent, which makes him a viable option for this card if indeed a main event-caliber fight cannot be coordinated to carry the show on its own.
Stay tuned for more details on UFC 91, Brock Lesnar and more.
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Joe Rogan looks like he has cerebral palsey in that pic lol
by santiago69us on Aug 21, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought he looks like hes salivatating over brock. i think he has a mancrush. BROCK dont turn your back on rogan!!!!
by day1er on Aug 21, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess that this is what happens when you tie up a championship by featuring one on TUF (Nog), and then you have GSP who doesn’t want to fight, then you have BJ who only wants to move up and fight GSP. That leaves Anderson Silva who is fighting at UFC 90. Only other champ is Forrest Griffin. But they are going to wait for Chuck to win so they can book Forrest/Liddell for the New Years event. If Rashad throws a wrench in those plans, they can have him or winner of Machida/Silva fight for the belt if not Rashad.
With 5 divisions, you would really hope to see a title defense every PPV. That would make for approx 2.5 title defenses a year. 5 defenses every 2 years. Is that REALLY too much to ask for???
by ViolentMike on Aug 21, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree but it’s not like the UFC hasn’t been giving us great cards….
by Robert on Aug 21, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I really hate having the champions tied up for coaching TUF. It’s stupid. At least they have Anderson Silva doing his thing as of late. The more fights we get to see with him the better. I also think that we shouldn’t complain about the lack of title shots considering we are getting UFC 89 and UFC 90 within a week of each other. That much I can understand. But you are right, there should be more title shots and The Ultimate Fighter is slowing that process down tremendously.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 21, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that is not too much to ask for. It would be great if the UFC would give us at least one title match for every payperview. But the only way that would happen is if we stopped purchasing the other cards that don’t have a title up for grabs. Then those would become all the Spike shows in-betweens.
At the very least, they could have the marquee matchup be a five rounder. Especially, if it was considered to be for a #1 contender spot.
by UFCAddict on Aug 22, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That would be a stupid main event, I see brock Lesnar’s fights being the same for the next 5 years, charge, lay n pray…then stupid antics after he wins. BORING.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
there just insnt much talent in the heavyweight divison for there to be any good fights. Honestly
by Salatious on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I really can’t believe that we are this close to having Cheick Kongo be sold to us as a Main Event.
About a year ago when Randy won the HW belt, who would have thought that in a year the UFC would have its first event in Oregon and it would have Brock Lesnar in the main event. (Randy trained the majority of his career at Team Quest in Portland, Oregon)
by ViolentMike on Aug 21, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when people are clearly close minded because they are haters. In no way did Brock lay and pray. It isn’t even a matter of opinion. Lets look at what actually happened. Brock had Heath down and Heath is very good at giving up his back and rolling to guard which I am sure Brock knew. So when Brock wouldn’t let him roll to his back Heath did the only thing he could and that is grab Brock’s wrist and that lead Brock to Lay and PREY, sure Brock needs some more Jits training but what he did works and it was more of Heath’s fault for only having one option that Brock nullified. Look at Tito in his prime and longest raining stint as a champion, he RARELY submitted people. That is not his style. I get sick of Elitists thinking MMA is JuJitsu+ others, FUCK THAT it is Mixed Martial Arts, and if you even looked at Heath’s face after the fight you would see he didn’t just pray for a win.
by Edge Crusher on Aug 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea of Brock facing Gonzaga. This seems like a tougher opponent than Kongo and would put a good test up against Brock. I can’t say having a win against Kongo could be bad at all though. Hopefully this is a co headlining event, like maybe put a number 1 contention fight on this card and have it co main event with Brocks fight.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 21, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I take that back Florian-Stevenson should be a headlining event before Brock-Kongo. Thats the smarter idea anyway, Brock is a draw no matter what but Florian would be fighting Penn after he beats Stevenson, if he beats Stevenson which would be a better fight to build up rather than whoever Brock would face next.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we can get Wandi/Rampage as the main event with those other 2 fights as a bonus.
I do not want to see Brock fight Gonzaga at this point in his career. Congo is a much better match up right now. Another year of sub defense then give him Gonzaga or Werdum. He would be able to dictate where a fight takes place with Congo and I would like to see him stand for a little. If that right he hit Heath is any indication of what he can do, he should test the waters with Congo and if he is losing the stand up take him down.
by BNF on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s going to be funny if Sherk beats Griffin and Stevenson beats florian.. then what? Penn vs winner of Sherk and Joe Stevenson? lol
by O damn he got caught on Aug 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock Lesnar wont be the main event. THey are looking at Rampage vs. Wanderlei.
Gonzaga vs. Brock IS NOT HAPPENING!!!! Gonzaga is much to dangerous with his ju jitsu at this point in Brocks young career. Face it, its going to be Kongo. Although Brock is a stylistic nightmare for Kongo, Kongo is still another top 10 opponent which will make this match up meaningful.
Potential UFC 91 card:
Wanderlie vs. Rampage
Brock vs. Kongo
florian vs. Stevenson
Fitch vs. ???
by john on Aug 21, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Fitch vs Alves 2? Makes sense if GSP is “shutting down” for the year.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 21, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think Gonzaga was happening I just was speculating that it is a fight that Brock can lose. Even with Kongo being in the top 10 I don’t think he’ll beat Brock so as a more fair fight I was speculating we should get Gonzaga and Brock. Anyway that doesn’t really matter Wandy Page is a way better headliner. I also think that if Alves beats Diego he is next in line for a title shot so he wouldn’t want to take another shot at Fitch not to mention he is fighting on UFC 90. Fitch Kos 2 maybe but still doesn’t sound that appealing to me. What WW’s are available for Fitch?
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Awe, I didn’t know alves was booked =*( wtf would fitch fight then…
by O damn he got caught on Aug 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I can think of 2 guys that are available, but he won’t fight, Swick and Koscheck. They really need to get over it…
by BNF on Aug 21, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah those 3 dudes need to just fight and get it over with. I honestly think that Swick and Kos would fight but they dont want any parts of fitch…IMO
I know that its obvious that Brock will beat Kongo but Kongo is another top 10 UFC Heavyweight opponent for Lesnar which makes what he is doing very impressive. Look at us, we are complaining about not wanting to see Brock vs. Kongo because its a mismatch. THats truly amazing that Brock is ALREADY a BAD MATCH up for a handful of top UFC Heavyweights!
Bock is LEGIT!
by john on Aug 21, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Cuz even though Fitch didnt get finished i think KOS did a better job against GSP than Fitch did. KOS won round one. Fitch probably didnt win any and was just getting beat the entire fight. Sme of the people on this board need to stop making fitch seem like a god. IMO KOS is closer to beating GSP than fitch is.
by JRV on Aug 21, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Cuz KOS did better against GSP than Fitch did.
by JRV on Aug 21, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
First you can’t use MMAmath, second Kos went three rounds with GSP not five. If Kos kept going for two more rounds he’d probably not have made it.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 21, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Kos lost a wrestling match to a smaller, non-wrestler… he didnt do better imo. He got beat as his best game against someone at what was there worst game at the time.
by enzo-enormous on Aug 21, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think Kos did better than Fitch either.
I was much more impressed at Fitch’s performance against GSP then I was at Kos’s. Kos got out wrestled the entire time. and then he stood there and let GSP tee off on him with like 10 Superman punch-leg kick combos!
by john on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think GSP would take Kos out in rd 1 now. GSP was coming off his loss to Serra and was playing it safe. He still dominated Kos, but Fitch had to face GSP at the top of his game, and that’s no easy task.
by LJ on Aug 21, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasnt using MMAmath. KOS didnt lose in a wrestlng match. MMA wrestling and traditional wrestling are very different. If KOS and GSP actually were in a wrestling match KOS would definitely win. And wrestling isnt GSP’s worst game. And JOHN it was definitely fitch that was gettin teed off on. Post fight pics is all the proof you need. Just cuz KOS isnt as likeable as fitch doesnt mean you people should just dismiss his skills. He is damn good and so is fitch. KOS did better. Period.
by JRV on Aug 21, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What about FITCH VS BJ. this fight makes perfect sense. if gsp isnt going to fight until early 09, then bj can shut up all his doubters about going 0-2 in his last 2 ww fights, and fitch wants redemption bad cuz he is not used to losing. there really is no competiton for bj at lw and fitch is friendS/training partner with all the other wws who are worthy or are not tied up (alves/diego). why is everbody so obsessed with fitch/kos when we could have FITCH/BJ. why not?
by b.w. on Aug 21, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a really good fight, but the UFC is not going to risk Fitch beating Penn and ruining the Penn vs. GSP fight.
by UFCAddict on Aug 22, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Although Gonzaga might not fight Lesnar yet, I would much rather see it happening than Kongo. I like the fact that Kongo is a striker, I want to see how Lesnar does with a few hits to the face.
by Kimura by Fedor on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
brock wants to keep fighting the best, than give him gonzaga, much more dangerous, dont give him kongo or coleman. but as we now, dana wont do that, he will give him kongo just like he gave lidell rashad and not thiago or machida.
by blah on Aug 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And yes it will be Kongo, as stated on another website …
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Aug 21, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
Rogan looks like he is getting a chubby checking out Brock’s back piece.
by BNF on Aug 21, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
Nah he’s just stoned, tats are trippin him out.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he should fight coleman
but maybe coleman is fighting shogun in dec
i don’t know if lesnar can win but if he does he has to be up there as a contender for the belt
by bryant on Aug 21, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
I have to think they will make Shogun vs Coleman (if that fight happens) the headliner of the TUF finale. Putting Shogun against a washed-up old man on free TV to have him pummel a ‘former world champion’. That will give him some recognition for those who hadn’t seen what a specimen Rua was in Pride and get him notariety with casuals (and they were supposed to see against Griffin).
by PJJ on Aug 21, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
kongo is a legit HW… makes sense to give him a bit more time before sticking him in with another BJJ expert…
kongo is a tough dude and it would be another big win for lesnar
if he beats kongo i reckon hell be put in a #1 contender match against werdum/gonzaga with the winner facing mir/NOG
by bigjohn on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
Werdum wins and he gets a title shot agains Mir/Nog.
Gonzaga does not have an opponent yet, and I think Cain is the only guy that will make Gonzaga a make or break star.
Kongo vs. Lesnar is going to be great.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Aug 21, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I say give Cain to Gonzaga.
Lesnar vs. Kongo is the best possible match up right now for both of these fighters.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Aug 21, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
KOngo sucks. If Lesner were to defeat him it would have no big benefit towards him proving something. Heath beat Kongo, and Lesner just beat Herring so what does that tell you? i guess the HW division is in dire need of some qualtiy fighters!
by carnage on Aug 21, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
Hopefully they give him Kongo. I want Kongo to get to the Teetle. Nog vs Kong, this thing can be bigger than fedor vs Couture/barnett tagteam. Seriously I feel bad for Nog. All he’s wanted and done in his entire career since the days of RINGS was fight top 5 opponents. Now he can’t even get top 20.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 21, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nog would tear off one of Kongo’s limbs. Kongo still needs work. I personally think Lesnar would be too much for him.
by LJ on Aug 21, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nog was getting totally owned by Tim Sylvia until it went to the floor. If it was Kongo fighting, he would have knocked out Nog that night, I have no doubt about that. Kongo is ten times the striker that Sylvia is, and if Sylvia had any sort of killer instinct that night he would have won. Kongo would not have wasted the opportunity.
by Ade on Aug 22, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Jardine beat Chuck, Chuck beat Wanderlei. They still made Jardine fight Wanderlei and look what happened. Only because Kongo lost to Herring that night, it doesn’t make him any less dangerous against Brock. Kongo is the best striker in the heavy weight didvision, and if you don’t think Kongo has the ability to take Brock out, once those kicks start flying, you may probably see it. The way Kongo strikes cocky Brock could easily get taken out. Brock showed how strong he is, and how good he could wrestle against Herring, but he was far from impressive. Kongo will be a good test and without doubt Lesner will win if it goes to the ground, but there is no way he is beating Kongo on the feet. Brock still has a lot to prove, winning one match hasn’t done that.
by Ade on Aug 22, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Kongo is no joke. He beat flipovitch and knocked the last dude out with a JAB!!! HAHA!! Not the tree tipping over kind but the legs buckling, building collapsing kind. Can you imagine if Kongo bulks up even more? I wonder how big they’re going to look next to each other at the weighins. gonna be some thunda!
by kama kaze on Aug 21, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
How far in advance do tickets go on sale for a given event? I’m from Portland and want to go to 91. TIA.
by w153r on Aug 21, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
I’m w/ you w153r! I’m right over the river in Vancouver, and I’d love to go to 91. It’s not like we will have another chance anytime soon. It can’t be too long from now, because it looks like the UFC 90 tickets are already for sale.
by LJ on Aug 21, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
to those who’ve been to a live event before, what price ranges should i expect for a show at the Rose Garden?
by vtr0n616 on Aug 21, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
to those who’ve been to a live event before, how much should i expect to pay for tickets?
by vtr0n616 on Aug 21, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m in seattle area. really wanna go too since its so near. gotta take advantage. thinking about it.
by kama kaze on Aug 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
So as of now, we’ve got Florian/Stevenson, and Lesnar/Kongo. What other fights do you guys think are available? So many guys are already booked to fight in the next couple of months, so i’m having trouble thinking of who could be on the card. Don’t tell me UFC’s first venture into Portland leaves us with a Lesnar main event! Fitch, Kos, are available, but we all know they won’t fight each other.
by vtr0n616 on Aug 21, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
i said it above. FITCH VS BJ. makes sense to me.
by b.w. on Aug 21, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds good to me. or how about kos vs. bj? kos has talked about it already. if kos somehow wins, he’s an instant star in the LW class. if BJ wins, that shows he deserves a shot in the WW division. i have trouble seeing how kos can lose another 15lbs, but if he says he can do it, then so be it.
by vtron616 on Aug 22, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Kongo and Lesnar will definetly be on the card. I also believe that if Lesnar wins then he will face the loser of the Mir/Nog fight. If Mir were to lose, Lesnar/Mir 2 would be a great seller as far as PPV numbers go. If Brock loses, i think they will give him Werdum/Gonzaga. Who knows though, if Brock puts on a show, and finishes it in the first round, he may just get a title shot.
by IceColdMilk1 on Aug 21, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Look guys, for the hardcore fans, there are better headliners. However, if you are looking at it from the business perspective, Brock is a money making machine. He’s already brought many w.w.e. Fans over to the ufc and many more who do not watch ufc. At this point, Brock is the best headliner when considering profits. I personally love watching Brock. He already evolved from his first ufc match. Its going to be fun to watch this guy grow.
by Leo on Sep 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
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