I agree DB! Its about time we hear something!

“I realize this was an ignorant and dangerous decision.”
-so you also must realize that facin’ the Spider in the octagon is also an ignorant and dangerous decision, hehe!!

II dont care if he took a few pain killers. A few Percocets never hurt anyone! ;)

As for Oxy Contin, I wouldnt recomend it to anyone let alone a Pro fighter!

I agree!..He had an excuse for the painkiller’s but what about the methadone?..He has to be trying to kick something

The oxycotin generic is oxycodone, which is Percocet without the tylonol. They both have the same exact active ingredient/inhert binder. They are both synthisized by thebaine, which is a minor componet of opium. They are essentially the same drug. Methadone on the other hand while used for severe pain is normally used for treating opiate withdrawl. Methadone has a slow metablolism. He did not just eat 1 methadone a week before the fight to test positive. Most of those drugs are out of your system in 24 to 36 hours hours depending on amount. Methadone has a metabolism life upto 60 hours and is fat soluble (stores in the fat cells/similar to Marijuanna). So if he tested positive it was the night before or was eating them for a bunch of days. That is my guess anyway. I really do not think he was cheating either, he just wanted to fight. Maybe he has a drug problem maybe he doesn’t not for us to say, non of us know his circumstances. To think he was going to fool the commision though is dumb.

 to say junkies only eat MEthadone and people that eat some percs are not junkies, just trying to get a little high and have some fun, is a little misinformed. Methadone is used for long term/chronic pain since it last longer in the body. I know plenty of people in my practice that use methadone for chronic back pain.

MOnkey: Oxy Contin’s and Percocets are completely different! Oxy contin’s are given to cancer patients. Perks are given for something as minor as tooth aches. Comparing the two is not accurate IMO

I wasnt aware that Methadone could be used for anything other then Kicking the Habbit, thanks for the heads up. But you cant honestly compare Oxy Contins to Percs.

HOw many dentists do you know perscribe their patients Oxy Contins? NONE because its basically synthetic Heroin!

Best thing Perks is used for recreationally, is to blow girls backs out! Try having sex on percs. whenever I would Bang a hot chick for the 1st time, I would always take a few itchies and she would think I was super man! lol

Well, we agree that he probably wasn’t trying to cheat, but like you said, very stupid tring to fool the athletic commision.

you are so misinformed john. My wife is the supervising pharmacist for 3 or 4 VA hospitals. Da monkeys post was exactly right! Take away the asprin and you have oxies. Vicodin is also in the same class (to a lesser extent) They are all opiates. Percocet has asperin. While they aren’t exactly the same. That’s why they give the percs for toothe aches and oxies for severe pain. The 10/500 for example (vicodin) is 10 mg vicodin, 500 mg acetemitifin (asprin). I agree with the 2 of you, he just wanted to fight, and wasn’t looking for an edge, then again to mask pain, wether an injury or not, is kinda cheating!

matthew- were in my comment did I compare the two? Im talking about weather guys are going to cut Irvin slack! Or bash him? Im curious thats all, dont get your panies in a knot!

I dont think Irvin was cheating, I think he was just trying to get High.

I would rather hear his excuse for the methadone then the pain killers. Methadone is ONLY really used to kick major oppiate habits. I could care less if he just ate some percs, but only JUNKIES take Methadone!

wrong again john, methadone can be used for severe pain. I would imagine training on a broken foot is extreme pain!!

Did not know that Methadone was prescribed for anything accept opiate withdrawl. They are much different then you make it seem. Kev, put it to you this way, when your son is a teenager, you would be much angrier to catch him taking oxycontins (20’s,40’s,or 80’s) then you would you caught him just eating a couple of Perks. Just an example.

I have been prescribed all types of perks in the past for various injuries like, Endocettes, percocet 5 (which are Generic equivalents to Endocettes. Rocacettes, Vicodin, Vicodin ES tablets, Watsons (white, blue, Pink, light green, round 10’s, round 7.5’s). Loracettes. HD’s. I was NEVER prescribed any type of Oxy contin.

Occasionally I will take a perc or 2 recreationally, and I did try oxy contin as a teenager and I can HOnestly say, they have totally different effects.

lol, bad analogy, I’d be equally pissed! Then I’d have to explain why drugs are bad…coming from a guy who used to buy coke by the ounce (for personal use), I know drugs are bad. I get what your saying, but it is all the same base, + or – the amount of asprin and strength. I take vics for my back, and have had perks for teeth, never had oxies. They are a drug of choice because they are more pure and can be cooked down and shot up. I think he was trying to mask the pain, but next time don’t take any for a day or two prior to an event.

True.

linx: GOod post. U have to respect that about Anderson!