Georges St. Pierre: 'Matt Hughes will lose' to Matt Serra 'if he stays the same' (Audio)
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I hope SErra knock HUghes the F out! Matt HUghes has no business talking bad about GSP’s performance over Fitch. I dont think Hughes was ever involved in a fight that was half as exciting as Fitch vs. GSP was. TYpical Matt HUghes, NO CLASS!
by john on Aug 18, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MATT HUGHES EXEMPLIFIES THE MEANING OF THE WORDS>> A PIECE OF SHIT!!!
by G.S.P.P4P.CHAMP!!! on Aug 18, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MATT HUGHES EXEMPLIFIES THE MEANING OF THE WORDS>> A PIECE OF SHIT!!!
by G.S.P.P4P.CHAMP!!! on Aug 18, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah man.. I would love to see Serra do his " Matt Hughes " striking impression as he is about to square up and fight him in the ocatgon.. I just think it would be F’n hilarious to him do it in front of Hughes..as Hughes can punch him in the face for doing it…or just shoot for his takedown.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John: I thought you ain’t interested in this match-up. Now I’m glad you’re rooting for Serra because I for one am gonna be cheering for this guy to KO Hughes w/his heavy hands. I guess another reason why you hate Hughes is that he’s a f**kin’ 1/2-dimensional wrestler, haha!!
by TheNegation on Aug 18, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we all know Hughes isn’t going to evolve any further.
by DSmith on Aug 18, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MATT HUGHES HAS ALWAYS SUCKED ASS AND THIS PROVES IT ONCE AGAIN,,,, HE IS A JEALOUS PIECE OF GARBAGE!!
by G.S.P.P4P.CHAMP!!! on Aug 18, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not if Serra stays the same, too…. Niiiice
by MikeJJ on Aug 18, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, have to agree. The sport is passing him by, just like he said it passed the great Royce Gracie by. Kind of ironic. But it’s an interesting thought, that somewhere, some kid is training MMA who will surpass our current greats!
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there’s this 1 kid in youtube, he’s only like 8-9 yrs old. And he’s bein’ trained by his uncle I guess. The kid has got some mad skillz!! His muay-thai striking form is excellent! And he knows submissions too[he did an armbar to his trainer]!!…His trainer gave a shoutout, literally sayin’, “You guys watch out for this kid!”
by TheNegation on Aug 18, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to a local MMA match here in Seattle over the weekend. The technical skill even the amature fighters have nowadays is amazing. The internet has given everyone the knowledge only few attained. Gone are the days when a guy who was a good wrestler learned a bit of striking and became a dangerous fighter. This new school cats start off knowing everything from Muay Thai to BJJ. In the future, the difference between fighters isn’t going to be skill set, its going to be who’s the better athlete. And GSP is proving this.
Peep out American Top Team’s website. They have pictures of 7-8 year olds in Gi’s grappling and learning striking…insane!!!!!
by TabascoSAUCE on Aug 18, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one hope Hughes just takes Serra down and pounds him out for 15 minutes.
Personally I dont see Serra improving anything drastically and think Hughes will be able to take him down at will.
Let the Hughes hating start!
by WB on Aug 18, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We can sum up the rest of the posts easily (like the guys did for the ring girl in playboy).
Blah blah blah…Hughesus is an @sshole…blah blah blah…Serra was a one hit wonder.
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol chefdaddy..You used my nickname for Hughesus. I love it!.
by Stagger-Lee on Aug 18, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call Matthew Riddle “Rainbow Brite” and we’ll be even! lol
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I like “Rainbow Brite” too..Thats a good one.lol. I’ll remember you got the™ on that one..
One of my favorites is/was VM’s nickname for John MaCCarthy – “Tupperware”..instant classic!
by Stagger-Lee on Aug 18, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one stuck more than any other! lol. I just wonder if the fighters ever get on this site and think," WTF! That’s my nickname?"
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha lol. I meant Charles….thanks for the correction.
by Stagger-Lee on Aug 18, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you. I got Hughes winning the Serra fight as well. Hughes will completely be able to control where the fight takes place, which will be the ground. Serra does have great BJJ, but for some reason he isn’t able to implement it in MMA as well as alot of other fighters. Plus Hughes is no slouch at BJJ. I expect to see Hughes pounding Serra out on the ground. The only downfall for Hughes can be if he decides to insist on standing and trading with Serra, only because Serra does now have KO power and Hughes has been susceptible to the KO as of late.
by ViolentMike on Aug 18, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure that you guys show your support to PhilQny! He had a grappling competition that he did well in yesterday. I will let him tell you guys, either way….Congrats Phil, and thanks for your advice and words of encouragement!
by john on Aug 18, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait to hear all about it! Phil, just hijack a thread, most of us really want to know how it is from someone who isn’t just a keyboard warrior (like me).
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree..“Hijack” away….
I havn’t been around lately..I hope I have not missed a “Life in times of PhilQNY” post..I am still riding with the PhilQNY war-wagon!
WHO-RHA!
by Stagger-Lee on Aug 18, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, did you speak with Phil? Cuz I haven’t gotten an email from him all week. This was the tourny he had up in CT I believe.
by ViolentMike on Aug 18, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If so, I know a few people that competed in it.
by ViolentMike on Aug 18, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOAH!!! MANiaCs!!!Thanks GUYs!!! I got nothing but Love you guys.. my MMA brotherhood!
As I train.. and compete in these small local tourneys.. to the Naga’s and grappler quest.. to Amatuer MMA.. to maybe one day ProMMA.. I’ve learned time and time again.. Martial arts.. is always about YOU.. I can battle Fedor.. or Silva.. or Joe Doe.. but the greatest battle is with myself. We have bricks wall put in front of us.. not to keep us out..but to keep everyone else out.. The brick walls are there to show us how bad we really it. As i suggested to John.. and I can go ahead andtell everyone.. if you. .train i in the one or various disaplines of MMA.. We are already MMA fans.. but when you puty on on your battle gear.. and get ready.. to spar, roll, bang.. nothing else in the world matters.. not the bills.. relationships issues..job stress.. nothing matters, but the task at hand.. to defeat your opponent. this Weekend I came up short by a few points to a tuf grappler.. but I learned another quality and weakness that I have today.. I progress further as a fighter..
well I do feel fighting is in all our DNA.. even in the places we least look.. like for instance.. waking up and getting out of bed..is a fight.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Phil, you may have just inspired me!
by Toms Bombs on Aug 18, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF I can speak to a million people..and just reach one person in the crowd, I would consider it a good response. Where at least reaching one person is my goal..
Toms Bombs: that is what I find in others.. to be inspired.. is igniting action.. igniting action.. is to be alive. =P
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good write up phil. You’re right…i think! Theopponent in front of you isn’t always the toughest oppnent, that’s the one in your head. You wrote this in the right discussion too!! (lol gsp!!!)
by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 18, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehehehehehehe..good observation kev
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Toms? Just kidding. Its always nice to see people who actually fight, post on forums.
Good work PhilQNY, keep it up and you will get where you want to go.
by enzo-enormous on Aug 18, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats phil! one thing i like about some of our commentators here…they put themselevs in the same position that the fighters we talk about here put themselves into and not just talk for the sake of being bias or hater! so what tourny did you compete in EGO? they do alot of small time grappling tournaments…MANIA i think we should start like an ANNAL type deal to keep track of our maniacs progress in whatever martial art they participate in.. I know me and my bro just started retraining again here in KY with Core Louisville and hope to participate in some small time grappling tournaments ourselves! by the way phil how did you do in the tournament?
by santiago69us on Aug 18, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s was a NYC local tourney named Masters of the Mat.. I came in 2nd place HW division.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NICE! yeah they have got a ghetto verison called EGO..extreme grapplers org…..cheezy but fun to hyperextend and choke alot of these out of shape guys here where im at lol. congrats. man…beware of the EGO trip…pun intended.
by santiago69us on Aug 18, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let the Hughes hating start!
thats right hate him now but i bet you all were fans when u first started watchin UFC Matt brought the sport back stop hatin on him he is still the best of all time for now sarra is just a POS highlight reel come on man shony carter(spinning back fist) ,GSP and soon MATT Serra belongs in some low grade show like eleit XC or some where in Japan
by #1 Hughes FAN on Aug 18, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just finished reading “Made In America”… I understand Hughes a little better now…. but I still “DISLIKE” him. He held little back in his book, which gave a lot of insight to how he became the dickhead he is. I respect his williness to fight but his indifference to MMA is his downfall.
by THORAZINE on Aug 18, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t a Hughes fan from the start. I kept counting on his opponents to beat him. And eventually they did. That just shows that hard work and patience pay off! Hehe!!
by TheNegation on Aug 18, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope St. Pierre and Hughes don’t start a war of words now. They’ve already fought 3 times and a 4th would be about as interesting as Tito vs Ken Shamrock again.
by Fidel Cashflow on Aug 18, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They wont. Well, Matt will. haha
by enzo-enormous on Aug 18, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
both hughes and serra are past any sort of “big” fights besides if/when they fight eachother. after that fight there should be two ufc retirements. it sucks to be washed up from a sport you once dominated but that’s the way it goes.
by bradpittfightclub on Aug 18, 2008 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is just GSP jabbing pack over Hughes totally inapropriate attitude and comments made by hughes on gsp after his fitch fight.
by Likwid on Aug 18, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think after Hughes lost the belt the first time to St. Pierre is when is really started going downhill. I would like to see him and Serra fight….but I’m not even sure who I’d root for. Oh yea, Matt!
by Chadx23 on Aug 18, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS JUST IN:
Mark Coleman vs Shogun December 11th at HW!!!
I just got this info from a reliable source this morning.. and wanted to pass it along..here on Mania.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Besides it being at Heavyweight, the fact that its on December 11th is also very interesting. This would mean that the UFC has 2 events booked for December this year!
Congrats my Friend!
by john on Aug 18, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice two card in december..Usually the UFC drops an awesome card to wrap up the year..I hope both december cards are stacked like most december card are..
-Good looking out PhilQNY!!
by Stagger-Lee on Aug 18, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
December 11th??? That sounds like the Main Event to Season 8 of TUF. That is scheduled for December, don’t remember the day, but December 11th is a Thursday, which means that is will NOT be a PPV.
Shogun should NOT be fighting at HW. He was out of shape at 205, so what’s going to happen at HW???
by ViolentMike on Aug 18, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like this is a fight night because the 11th is a Thursday.
by Shadyone33 on Aug 18, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing, why should he be fighting at HW? Forget the loss to Coleman and fight someone worth fighting at 205, instead of risk hurting yourself again and having to sit out for a long time again. I just want to not only see this guy tear it up, but I also want the mainstream fans to realize exactly who Shogun really is. They won’t get to see that I don’t think if he’s too fat at HW, they’ll just think he’s some fat overrated Brazilian lol.
by Toms Bombs on Aug 18, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally. Why Coleman? The dude is like 94 years old. Still looks to be in shape but seriously… he retired like 42 years ago.
by enzo-enormous on Aug 18, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if this one has Shogun at HW, then he better not gas the f**k out because he tends to gas at LHW, so what more at HW, right?!?
by TheNegation on Aug 18, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, another one side pointless fight, if in fact true.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 18, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully this means we will get to see rampage/wandi 3 before long.
by b.w. on Aug 18, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s your source on this one Phil? It’s hard to believe Shogun is persuing this fight so much. I mean, yea, he wants to avenge his loss, but that won’t help his career at all. I don’t want to even think about Shogun losing… Anyhow, the consequences of losing out-weighs the award. Why, Shogun? You’re better than that.
by Kimura by Fedor on Aug 18, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know someone who trains with Mark Coleman..I thought when I first heard about this match up.. if it was at 205.. but it’s at HW. I don’t know who pursued who.. if Mark made the call..or Joe.. or Shogun.. but it’s from a reliable source.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes vs. Serra=The battle of the has-bens(sp?)
by Jason on Aug 18, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Relaxation in Brazil”? Yeah right, he’s going to be hammering down on the BJJ skills for his fight against BJ!
by Toms Bombs on Aug 18, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HEY PHIL: how did you do this weekend?
by slaughter time on Aug 18, 2008 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For starter’s I started my weekend with a trip to up state Ny.. For a Saturday family outdoor party.. I went up after work on Friday.. Get ther at night.. I’m in house with like 25kids in it.. did I sleep.?? Nah.. I got up early.. went running.. then started helping setting everything up..itwas real nice.. low 80’s..cloudy.. breezy.. I have few beers thru out the day.. round 5pm.. I look at myself.. I have a F’n SUN BURN!!! all over my shoulder’s..neck..and arms.. I was mega tight.. I left on Saturday night.. got home sunday morning.. woke up not feeling too hot.. I went the the Masters of the Mat. .with a Sun Burn and a slight hangover.. and sleep deprived..hehehehehehe.. Shit like this only happens to me..
I came in 2nd place in the HW division.. I Had one real slick submission.. could of been the Submission of the Tourney.. but in my 1st palce match.. I fought TUf Mofo.. and came up short by a few points..but I did my best.. and look forward to matches with guyts my own size.. not 6’5 275lbs…guy’s that carry nickname’s like TarZan.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job! but going to roll on a mat with sunburn. You must be a glutten for punishment. lol
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good job bro! The sun burn must of hurt more than any submission, How about next time you be a bit more prepaired, lol?
by slaughter time on Aug 18, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent work. Congrats on a solid weekend. If you didn’t have the sunburn and the hangover it wouldn’t make as good of story. Way to live it up!
What was the slick sub? Play by play it, Rogan!
by PJJ on Aug 18, 2008 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.. about 1:30 in the fight.. He is in my open guard.. he presses down on my right knee to pass my guard.. I close my guard.. but then I open it again.. and give him an exit to pass..he starts to pass on my right side..as he passes.. I kept scooting my hips as if I was going fo his back…He is keeping alot of pressure on my head..I keep my right elbow in tight to my hip..and with my left arm I wrap around his back.. I get to to knees..push him forwad..take out my right leg.. to prevent me from getting his back..he faces me and now I’m in side mount.. I keep my center press against his chest and shoulders..there is a scramble.. I rotate across his body on the other side of him..still in side mount.. as I maintain pressure.. I trap his left arm across his body.. lock my arms tight to secure the Arm triangle.. Once I get my grip.. I jump across his body to the side of his trapped arm and start turning into him.. but the pressure was so much, he was tapping as I was jump over teh mount.
by PhilQNY on Aug 18, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This damn south paw stance for Hughes is killing him. He won 40 fights with a tradition stance and setting up his shots that way, then the dopship changes to southpaw thinking he would get better shots and what happens?… he gets his ass handed to him
by lilmonster on Aug 18, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes has a lot more trouble then just his stance. But I agree that changing the stance was somewhat pointless! At this stage in his career, he has to use what has got him here!
by john on Aug 18, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason i see hughes losing this fight then making excusing after words like “oh my knee wasn’t 100%, and it bothered me in the fight and if i wasn’t injuried i would win”
by Toad on Aug 18, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, when’s the last time you heard Hughes make any excuses after losing? He says a lot of assinine things, but the one thing I’ve never heard him do is start making excuses after a loss. . .
by gnanner1 on Aug 18, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his ego can only take so much, i bet if he loses this time around we see the real hughes come out. flip off the camera, take his spit bucket and beat herb dean with it then run out of the ring with his towel over his head.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 18, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most people this side of the Mason Dixon Line don’t really care for the loudmouth New Yorkers, and Serra plays into that stereotype as well as anyone. Still, I think he’s funny, but I don’t think he beats Hughesus. VM has it right. For all Serra’s BJJ skills, they don’t seem to translate well in his fights.
by PW on Aug 18, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
from what i hear Serra is a great BJJ teacher but gets subbed by his students all the time…he just doesn’t have long enough limbs I guess
by McArthur on Aug 18, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve trained at Serra’s gym and no he does not get subbed by his students all the time, he is a gracie BB, those guy’s are on another level. But I will agree his BJJ does not work that well for him in MMA, the guy should drop down to 155 hes to small for WW.
by CCF on Aug 18, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That is exactly what I always thought. He was much stronger at 155. For his weight class anyways. Plus, he will be fighting people that arent dwarfing him. I always liked Serra… mainly because I cant stand Hughesus, but still.
by enzo-enormous on Aug 18, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MATT HUGHES IS A JEALOUS PUSSY TO GSP!
by G.S.P.P4P.CHAMP!!! on Aug 18, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, your caps lock is on for about 4 posts now.
by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree that Serra should move down to 155. He is not big enough for the 170 division.
I hope it becomes a slug fest where they beat the crap out of each other and in the final seconds of round 3 there is a double knock out and both guys are down and out for good.
by Calgary MLS on Aug 18, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a double KO finish would be hilarious…I cant think of any better way for this fight to end.
by Chadx23 on Aug 18, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP relaxin in Brasil ? HaHa! Yeah, no one is catching on right ? Hilarious.
by KazMcNasty on Aug 18, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What? GSP said, he was going to start training next week. He said he couldn’t spar for 3 weeks because of the stitches. He also said he likes to train even when on vacation or he would go nuts. It’s really no secret that GSP has been training pretty much steady since he started MMA.
by Gord on Aug 19, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great, can these guys just hurry up and fight and then just go away. I dont think the fight its self will be that exciting. there is nothing on the line, both fighters are basically done. other than being just a plain ole grudge match. this fight has no relevance. hughes no longer has a ground advantage on anyone. He has the most ridiculous looking standup i have ever seen. when a one dimensional fighter looses his one dimension its time to hang it up, and dont emberass yourself anymore.
by day1er on Aug 18, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP is responding well to Matt s coments before and after the fight. Prior to the fight Hughes said that he was pulling for St. Pierre, but he also said that If Georges didn t come prepared he would have lost like he did against Serra the first time. He also seemed not thrilled about the fight in the first place and the only reason for going to the event in Minnesota was to watch his old buddy an and wrestler Brock Lesner fight, he also mentioned that he dind t really care about the event and that he does not follow the UFC that much. But after the fight he made comments about St. Pierre not being very muscular as his previous fights and that he looked gassed in the third rd. He also said that he got bored and left in the middle of the fight to go back to his hotel. Now thats coming from a guy who lost twice to GSP and also his biggest rival in the fight game, had some other Welter weight said that it would have been a little different but coming from a guy who got destroyed twice by Georges and lost his title to him its a little bit akward and suspicios knowing the Hughes-St. Pierre history. He sounds kind of jelous but i mean who could forget the two beatings he got from Georges, that fight @ UFC 79 Nemesis was hilerious Hughes was completly dominated and destroyed by GSP, i still laugh my ass off to that verbal submission “TAP,TAP,TAP” Matt was completly humiliated that fight.I am not even a Hughes hater i just tell it like it is. I honestly don t think GSP is trying to disrespect Matt Hughes i just think he is telling what he thinks, the hughes-serra fight could go either way but at this point is not he most sought after fight because both fighters are coming off losses and aren t in their prime anymore is just a regular grudge match that has to happen nothing more.
by G-Man on Aug 27, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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