UFC Quick Quote: Thiago Alves via knockout of Diego Sanchez at UFC 90

They should match up Rumble Johnson/Koscheck. The winner of that fights the winner of Alves/Sanchez for a title shot. Sound good?

by the_mexicutioner on Aug 16, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I disagree, Alves deserves a title shot if he beats Sanchez and Rumble Johnson is nowhere near a shot right now

by Haze on Aug 16, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Far from it. Rumble needs a string of wins to be even considered for title contention. IF Diego isn’t careful on this one, like if he comes storming out at the sound of the bell, he might get KTFO by Alves. Just look at Gamburyan, came storming out, just to be knocked out by Emerson. This fight also has the potential to end like that just because Alves has such heavy hands. Diego should better watch out if he wants to win against the pitbull!

by TheNegation on Aug 16, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diego cant win this fight! I am telling all of you guys that Alves will win this fight. I told you guys that Karo was going to get KO by Alves and you all laughed at me. I told you that Alves would KO Hughes with a flying knee, and you all laughed at me again. Trust me on this, alves is going to KNock Diego out! Alves is on eof the biggest welterweights in the sport, Diego is one of the smallest. Diego couldnt even take down Luigi, so he can Forget about
Taking down Alves. Diego wont be able to take Alves down, and he will feel confident in his new and improved standup, that will be his downfall because No way Diego can last 15 minutes standing up with Diego.

Alves by KO…Take that to the bank, I know I have. Since April. Alves has won me a nice amount of money and I dont see that changing in the future!

by john on Aug 16, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diego will win. I think everyone picked Alves to beat Karo and Hughes. I know I did. He will lose you money this time. But hey what do I know.

by the_mexicutioner on Aug 16, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess you’re right mexicutioner. We know nothin’. This fight looks as even as it seems when it comes to match-ups. John, do you already know the odds for this one?

by TheNegation on Aug 16, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think ur right John, Diego’s standup isn’t as good and he proabably won’t be able to take Alves down. I think Diego does have a decent chance to submit him if the fight stays on the ground.

by THORAZINE on Aug 16, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Sanchez loses, Ill be able to admit I was wrong. Will you do the same when Alves in fact loses? Did I say you didn’t know anything? Those are your word there Neg. You guys take things too personal. No matter who wins, my life goes on.

by the_mexicutioner on Aug 16, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could care less about what any of you think. No Offense. I am betting Big on alves and he will win. No mex, I was getting laughed at by mostr of you for betting alot against Hughes and Karo when alves fought. NOw the Alves bandwagon is picking up steam!

by john on Aug 17, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rumble Johnson lol

by braveheart on Aug 16, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AJ one like one fight against a TUFer, not even close to a title shot.

And Thiago is gonna get murdered in this fight.

by Jimmy on Aug 16, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rumble’s not ready for that stiff of competition, Even tho it was a TERRIBLE call in his last fight, Rumble was’nt totally dominating a average fighter. But Alves and Sanchez will be a good one.

by Couch Champ on Aug 16, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you that Rumble isn’t ready for Koscheck, but he was dominating Pokey. That guy mustered no offense other than the eye gouges.

by PW on Aug 16, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a fighter that is 1-2 in the UFC deserves a title shot, lol.

by El dirte on Aug 16, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rumble vs. Marcus Davis would be more appropriate for Rumble at this stage in his career!

Or, Rumble vs. Swick

by john on Aug 16, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree! Anybody who’s 1-2 doesn’t deserve a shot at the belt!

by TheNegation on Aug 16, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hes 2-2

by earthfirst! on Aug 17, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOAH he’s 2-2 guys. Let’s give him and interim belt so he doesn’t even have to be 3-2 to get his belt. Rumble looked very mediocre in his last fight, even without the eye poke he didn’t look good. That dude that poked him shouldn’t even be in the UFC trying to slap people instead of jabbing. And yes I know the guys hand was broken, but why even except a match against AJ with a broken hand?

by jay on Aug 17, 2008 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like posts about what fighters predict is going to happen. It’s obviously always the same. I would love to hear a guy say he just hopes he can stay in the fight or he is probably going to lose.

Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com

by Rob Dib on Aug 16, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

if you said that as a fighter you already lost though, talking like this is there way of getting hyped up lol

by randy murders on Aug 16, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he did say that if he had to take him down and submit him, he would. i would love to see him try that. koscheck went for 1 takedown and got reversed quick. fitch got him down put pretty much just held him there. he sounds a little to overcofident with his wins over old man hughes and an out of shape karo. we’ll see come oct. he’s defenitley capable of beating sanchez, but doing it is another matter. if he doesnt think diego can beat him he will be in for a big surprise. and he damn well better make wieght this time! this is a big fight ,but so was hughes and he couldnt come close.

by b.w. on Aug 16, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, Thiago seems to confident! Im picking Diego to win this fight. And your right b.w. Thiago better make weight!

by JV on Aug 16, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way alves looses this fight

by john on Aug 16, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he wont loose it but he might lose.

by Harry Triangle on Aug 17, 2008 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I say if he doesn’t make weight the fat bastard should be forced out of the WW division. Also if he does win he should have to beat one more guy and make weight in that fight before they let him fight for the title. It would just be shitty if he got a title fight after this and didn’t make weight, which he seems to have a problem doing.

by jay on Aug 17, 2008 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont understand how nobody was injured yet the lady he hit miscarried? that dont sound right but then again she’ll settle an out of court deal anyways

by randy murders on Aug 16, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bold words by alves.the question is can he even make weight.hes coming off a good ko of a washed up hughes and a good ko of an overrated parysian ill give him that but diego took fitch the distance and caught him in some decent submissions and posters on here are saying alves takedown defence has improved.believe me if he can take fitch down he can take alves down.im gonna stick my neck out and say with his improved game diego by ud.

by SCOTT on Aug 16, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Alvez, but there is no way he will “take him down and submitt him.” Diego is a tough SOB and this will be an awesome fight. The only way I see Alves KOing Diego is from a perfectly placed knee when Diego shoots, which is unlikely because Diego will set up his shots with good combos, unlike Hughes. As far as I am concerened this is the main event of the night in what is shaping up to be a pretty good card.

by BNF on Aug 16, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree, Thiago and his dam knees! I still think Diego wins this fight.

by JV on Aug 16, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too… I think Diego is on his game right now and will be too much for Alves.

by BNF on Aug 16, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cockiness will be the downfall of Thiago…I dont like Diego that much, but I hope he KO’s Thiago.

by Chadx23 on Aug 16, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alves will not loose this fight. U can add Diego to his highlight reel!

by john on Aug 16, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hows about a little wager. If diego loses i wont post for a month. If Alves loses u do the same. The line in the sand has been drawn. What say you?

by Harry Triangle on Aug 17, 2008 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ill take your wager i hate post anyway, but i think Alves wins this then ko’s gsp. Alves will have the belt by 2009

by jsoph on Aug 17, 2008 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better yet if Cote loses to silva i will never pot again, anyone want the wager, if cote wins you can never post again.

by jsoph on Aug 17, 2008 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll take that bet Jsoph. I love Patrick but I am realistic in his chances. See you, never again.

by jay on Aug 17, 2008 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

“LETS GET IT ON”

by jsoph on Aug 17, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ive never even seen u on here, unless ur really john in disguise.

by Harry Triangle on Aug 18, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d say winner gets title shot. Rather see sanchez win so we could see GSP vs sanchez, the winner can stay at jackson’s camp lol.

by Toad on Aug 16, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I could be mistaken, but didnt Diego leave Jacksons camp before the Koscheck fight?

by LOKIE on Aug 16, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diego left Jackson’s camp the day GSP signed up. Instead of staying and training with the best WW ever he quits like a baby. It’s the only thing I don’t like about Diego, the guy couldn’t stand to have 2 good fighters working out together.

by jay on Aug 17, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diego has never been finished before. I gotta go with Diego on this one, he is more well rounded.

by c-war on Aug 16, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think that will be the difference as well. The only way I see Thiago winning is Diego shoots for a takedown and he catches him with a knee.

by Jase on Aug 17, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can see him dictating the pace, but not knocking him out.

by DirtyML on Aug 16, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez lost a split decision to Fitch. Alves was TKO’d by Fitch. Yes, Alves has gotten better since then but its not like Diego has gotten worse. Diego is just as good as he’s been, if not better. Then some will say, “Yeah, but Alves beat Hughes.” Is Hughes even relevant in the division anymore aside from the Serra grudge match? In my opinion Sanchez takes this one.

by the_mexicutioner on Aug 16, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

completely agree!

by JV on Aug 16, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes Alves has gotten better, but so has fitch, I think Diego will win this one, but fitch will be the number two contender for a long time.

by Josh on Aug 16, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No Fitch vs AJ next and Rumble will knock his ass out!.. I think Diego will win this fight too, and he would dominate Hughes too, Hughes physique isn’t there anymore and that’s the thing he had, there are alot of guys with much better physique these days and he can’t compete with them..

by RoB on Aug 16, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So . . . we just see GSP-Fitch until Fitch wins?

by PW on Aug 16, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thiggy always delivers and it’s gonna be the same thing here. Even in his losses, he was killing everyone when he got caught. Diego is gonna talk about his indestructible “mexican” jaw until thiago melts it for him.

by NameNotRequired on Aug 16, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

greg savage is that you?

There is no doubt that this will be an exciting fight. I see thiago keepin it standing though but I dunno if he’ll KO him. This will go to split decision-thiago alves

by nameless on Aug 16, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sanchez will work alves and get the decision.

by itsT.O.baby!!! on Aug 16, 2008 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thiago needs to make weight (without diuretics) before I give him any respect. If I were Diego (or even Hughes) I would refuse to fight him if he didn’t make weight just to prove a point.

by JB on Aug 16, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i would too but neither guy would avoid or duck a fight for any reason.. i see diego gnp victory over thiago

by randy murders on Aug 16, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well Nobody respects a Keyboard Warrior :^P

by RipTheSystem on Aug 16, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn! And only a pu$$y would refuse a fight

by jdawg on Aug 16, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s a horrible fact of life/misconception jdawg. These rules are there for a reason. If someone doesn’t make weight, they might be more fresh for a fight cuz they didn’t work as hard to cut weight. But that is no where near the biggest advantage. Let’s say someone is with almost NO body fat is 4 pounds heavier. It’s not like 4 pounds in WEIGHT makes a big difference, rather it’s the power that 4 pounds of MUSCLE WEIGHT gives to a guy. If one goes to the gym and puts on just a couple of pounds in muscle their strength is increased exponentially compared to what is was before. The bad thing is that if a fighter did refuse a fight for that reason, he would chastized more than the pu$$y who didn’t make weight, and the losers would be we the fans.

by chefdaddy on Aug 18, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alves is gonna come into the fight at 205 like he did with Hughes and then he’s gonna lay and pray Sanchez. I know he might not have L&P’d before, but I just see it happening.

by Sean_M on Aug 16, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I really hope Alves thinks he can submit Diego. That will make it a much easer night for the Nightamre.

by PP on Aug 16, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Diego is going to send this guy tumbling back down the ladder…assuming Thiago can actually make weight

by Jesse Holland on Aug 16, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Go work on picking contest winners!!! Just giving you shit.

by the_mexicutioner on Aug 16, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just don’t put any money on Diego winning! Call it a friendly warning.

by RedDog on Aug 16, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you ,Oracle! ,,, Now go back to the matrix dck smack :)

by Qmonster on Aug 16, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was a good one, Queermonster! Why don’t you go back to getting your algebra homework done

by RedDog on Aug 17, 2008 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alves nneeds to make weight or Dana should make him fight at 185!!

Regardless, I see Diego taking this via UD.

by WB on Aug 16, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

this cant make weight loser… diego is going to put him in his place…. watch..

by TexasBOY on Aug 16, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Diego will win by submission. Alves has won his last two fights by a big knee. Anderson Silva’s favorite strike..knee. Wanderlie uses knees. Other than Chuck the best strikers in UFC are those who knee to the head. GSP would kill Alves. I see no way Alves could win against GSP. Sanchez beat Fitch in my opinion and lost a snooze fest to Kos. Those are his only losses. Hazelette and Sanchez are the best BJJ guys at 170. If Penn wins he and Sanchez would be an awesome fight.

by scott on Aug 16, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Penn and Sanchez? Are you out of your mind. The only fight you, me and everyone else in the world will see BJ Penn fight in at 170 lb is a TITLE MATCH with GSP. No way he is going to be forced to fight a contender match against the likes of Deigo or Kos, or any other 170 lb fighter for that matter. If we dont see a Penn vs. GSP then we dont see BJ fighting at that weight at all. As for Thiago and Sanchez………..well this could be a good one. Thiago has looked very impressive in his last couple fights but those are wins over Karo, and Hughes. I think Thiago must KO the NIGHTMARE in round #1 or he will slowly lose control of the fight to the point were Diego just wears Alves down and eventually Alves sucumbs to the relentlessness of Diego. I say Diego wins by unanimous decision.

by rbang on Aug 16, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

fight of the year maybe. someone’s chin is gonna be tested. i say alves is the harder hitter but diego will mentally pummel alves on the ground. im pulling for nightmare so he can get chance to beat on GSP from the Greg Jackson debacle.

by kama kaze on Aug 16, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

rbang… Scott was saying if Penn beats GSP then Sanchez and Penn would be a good fight for the title.. I agree although I dont think Penn will beat GSP

by laserline on Aug 16, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Penn/Sanchez would probably be a quick fight with BJ winning in the first or second round. i doubt Deigo would come out NOT aggressive, in which Penn would get the better or the exchanges or scrambles.. I’d say Penn by rear naked choke.

by Sinister on Aug 17, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never much liked Sanchez, but props to him…he always shows up in shape & ready to fight, (although he should not have fought Kos with the staph infection).
No respect for Alves. Coming in overweight, I was not impressed he could beat past-best-before-date Hughes & a fat, big-headed Karo.
Sanchez by RNC.

by talkman on Aug 16, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thiago by TKO

by kas on Aug 16, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thiago wins this i think.

I think he’s a better match against GSP, I see Diego losing in the same fashion as fitch against gsp only in the first.

by ShaiZ on Aug 16, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Definitely, Thiago is better thsn Diego in every way. Not to mention Diego is one of the most boring fighters in MMA.

by RedDog on Aug 17, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diego one of the most boring fighters in MMA. You must have some serious hate for Diego to come out with a statement like that. Diego always tries to make a fight exciting and the Diaz, Karo fights are two of the best. If you do not like the guy for whatever reason that is up to you, but to call him one of the most boring fighters in MMA is a bit over the top. He didn’t pick on you at school or steal a girlfriend off of you by any chance did he. That might explain it.

by Ade on Aug 18, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kos vs. swick what do u guy think of that match up?

rumble could fight guliard and get killed

by damon on Aug 16, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

never mind about gullard and rumble gulards a light weight

by damon on Aug 16, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

kos and swick are training partners at AKA.. i dont think it will happen. dont think of putting either one against fitch either. all AKA.

just for arguements sake, kos/swick doesn’t sound too appealing to me. swick has kinda fallen out of favor with me due to his last couple of fights being sucky decisions: burkeman, okami, loaseau..

by Sinister on Aug 17, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ohh i just dont like swick hes boring and i knew kos and fitch where cool but i dont pay atention to swick i just think that some one needs to beat the poop out of swick well at least i know there home boys now

by damon on Aug 18, 2008 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thiago better mark his own words because he might get a taste of his own medicine. Diego is explosive too so Alves better be careful…

by TheNegation on Aug 16, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rumble and KOS would be interesting because although KOS obvious wrestling he LIKES to stand which MAY not be a good option with Rumble, who has a background in wrestling. but it would be a step DOWN for KOS and probably wont happen.
SWICK VS RUMBLE might be exciting
and i DEFINATELEY would like to see the obvious of FITCH VS KOS

Fitch is looking to be yet another Franklin and Sherk. Can beat 99.9 of competiton just not the champ.

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

in fitch an sherks defense, they’ve only lost to their respective division champs one time, and both losses have only been those champs’ first title defenses. its still a long way before either one can be compared to a middleweight rich franklin or a welterweight matt hughes.

by Sinister on Aug 17, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i do not think so.
i dont think that if either two had a rematch (as Franklin did) that the outcome be any different!
do u REALLY!??
if yes how!?
if no, thats my exact point!

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 17, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think Fitch is better than what he showed and the same to Sherk. Especially Sherk. He was dumbass to stand with BJ and think he could box when GSP mauled this guy standing. Notice how I didn’t say either would win, but if both rematched and had a logical and decent gameplan then I think they would not get beat as bad, but still get beat nonetheless.

I still stand by the fact that its WAY too early to label them as a Rich Franklin.

by Sinister on Aug 17, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed (but dude no need to try to be a know it all)

by damon on Aug 18, 2008 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

blah blah blah no on on here knows shit . who on here fights 1 or two i think it is funny u pusssies think u have the right to say o this guy sucks or this giuy is a pussy when that guy would send you to your grave. and laugh at your punk ass.

by DbG on Aug 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So I guess some of the trainers in this sport that have never been in a cage dont know shit either right? Just because some people on here dont fight doesnt mean they dont train, and have a good knowledge of what there talking about.

by LOKIE on Aug 17, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

looks like hes taking a dump..

by coolguy on Aug 17, 2008 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Diago couldnt evan get Firovanti down, so i think Alves by tko in the first

by jsoph on Aug 17, 2008 6:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Diego all the way. I can’t stand alves one bit but….he is good. I say this because we all seen how diego bursted on to the scene like alot of fighters (alves). Everyone gets derailed and set back by someone. Diego got it from koschcheck. He was way to cocky and thinking he is unbeatable like someone else i know (alves). Diego had to regroup and start over. He was different than we have ever seen in the Luigi fight…he fought Smart and showed a huge improvement in his game. The nightmare all the way

by KAPP1179 on Aug 18, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i think this is going to be a great fight. Anything can happen. Such as diego trying to take down alves and get caught with a knee. Or diego could just overwork him . DIEgo is A FUCKING BEAST . every fight he is determined . if you look in his eyes then you will see the determination

by Trevor Black on Aug 20, 2008 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Alves has to make weight first of all haha

by Corey on Aug 21, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well put Trevor Black. My money is on The Nightmare. Diego has been an absolute beast since TUF 1. You gotta remember, Diego has never had his bell rung, not once. He’s NEVER been knocked out, and I’ve never even seen his legs wobble. I realize Diego isn’t at GSP’s level, and I know certain guys (Fitch) may give him a problem, but the fact is, this kid is an old school, tough as nails Mexican kid….I think he wins this fight. If he does lose, I can guarantee he won’t get knocked out. Having said that, how does Alves win this fight, by decision?? No chance. This has the makings of an incredible fight….could be fight of the year. Alves has incredible stand-up, but Diego is a fearless fighter, he’ll stick his nose in there. Buckle up for this one, it’s gonna be good.

by kg on Aug 21, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Diego is a good fighter and a hard worker, but Diego and GSP? God i think GSP would kill him. As for Alves Sanchez Im torn between wanting to see a stand up fight because those are always cool with Alves but i think i wouldnt mind seeing some ground work. Does anyone remember that Alves claims BJJ his primary style? He is a teacher in Brazil. He has yet to show it in UFC ’cause he says stand up wows the crowd but i wanna see what he can do against another BJJ.

by Chris on Aug 29, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Interesting comment that Alves claims BJJ his primary style. I noticed that as well, and I have to wonder how legit of a claim that is. I was watching Spike reruns the other night, and I completely forgot about his fight with Spencer Fisher, in which Alves was choked out by Fisher in the 3rd round…..And Fisher is by no means a BJJ expert. I realize that was some time ago, and his skills have improved greatly since then, but I have a feeling his Black Belt might be a bit more difficult to attain in a different camp.

by kg on Aug 29, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs