Dana White: 'Fedor did everyone a favor by beating' Tim Sylvia

dana just keeps running his mouth left and right….

wish fedor would just kick dana’s ass.

by Verbal Kint on Aug 15, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions

I’d like to hear Dana name the heavyweights he feels are better…there certainly aren’t any in the UFC that Fedor hasn’t already beaten

by McArthur on Aug 15, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

That was what I was going to say! I mean honestly, someone PLEASE name me one, just f*ckin one, heavyweight who could take Fedor.

by chefdaddy on Aug 15, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Anyone who claims that they can name 1 is just kidding themselves. Only fighter with a chance is Barnett! No one else will come close! Barnett has the size and submission defense needed to actually make it interesting, but I still think Fedor would win, but not all quick like he did against Sylvia.

All the other top fighters dont stand a chance: Fighters with no chance at beating Fedor:
BROCk (would get his arm ripped off)
Nog (Been there, CRUSHED THAT)
Couture (might end quicker than the Sylvia fight did)
Werdum (See Nogueira fight)
Arlovski (would get Manhandled!)
Sylvia (we all saw what happened)
Kongo (submitted in under 2 minutes)
Rizzo (see kongo)

by john on Aug 15, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions

Where’s my other post? Get me out of purgatory please!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

He said nothing about Fedor not being the best HW, he isn’t allowed to admit that people can you please get that through your heads? All he said was he wasn’t the top P4P which is different than the top HW. Also he said he was in the top 5 without listing them, this is just well spoken on Dana’s part to put the thought into the minds of people who don’t know about Fedor, that he is great but maybe not the best. Dana is a business man and this is something people need to start remembering. Anyway he’s right about Sylvia, he’s been fighting not to lose, he doesn’t train hard enough and he has absolutely no ground skills. Tim does not belong in the top 5 fighters anymore and its time for him to either put up or shut up. He can either get back to training and work hard to earn his way back up or he can keep trying to cash a quick check and give us boring fights where he is halfasing it.

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 15, 2008 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions

I say that Nog is the only HW with a shot at winning. Nog is never out of a fight! But Fedor defeated him twice via decision, so I don’t know how Dana has him, or any HW ranked higher than Fedor. The only reason Dana brings this point up so much is because he is trying to convince himself of this lie he loves to tell.

by ViolentMike on Aug 15, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions

John I’d also like to post that I think AA is going to take the upset and bet not only Barnett but also Fedor but this is coming from one of AA’s many cult members, so that is a completely biased statement but one that I hope comes true.

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 15, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Agreed Cogita, I read it the same way. He said Fedor is ONE of the 4 or 5 best HW’s, not he IS the 4th or 5th best HW, he never gave him a ranking.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 15, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions

So…he thinnks there could be 4 or 5 better heavyweights out there? Maybe he found someone and is keeping it secret for now….ha!

by Toms Bombs on Aug 15, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Cogito: I too belong to the Artlovski Cult, but I have to keep it real and say that Andre doesnt stand a chance against Fedor and I doubt that he will beat Barnett either! I hope I am wrong!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

who cares what Dana says anyway! there are only 2 non UFC fighters that Dana has ever said good things about:
Sakuraba
Cung Le

So, I really dont even want to hear what Dana has to say about non UFC fighters because all he will do is piss in our ears and tell us that its raining!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions

THis moderation is getting really ridiculous! HOw the hell do I post something befor anyone else on this thread, but its still not posted and there are about 30 other responses posted? WTF!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions

John…dood…you chat shit sometimes, fedor is the baddest man on the planet, but your list above is wrong. Nog survived. I dont know where to get the interview from, cuz it was a while back, but when asked about who is the most threatening to him, he said Arlovski is the main man who he thinks has a good chance against him, he respects AA’s skills and knows he wouldnt ’manhandle ’ him – so why do you make up these assumptions? n fat boy barnett beat Arlovski ? dood your on smack.

by Insain on Aug 15, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

john you are wrong.AA is gonna beat Josh then Fedor.then Dana will run his mouth and say see these guys cant even beat my former champ.then Dana will beg to get AA back,AA will come back for a ridiculous amount of money then put a spanking on Nog and have that strap too.then AA will slowly take over the world

by PUNK on Aug 15, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I simply thought that by saying Fedor is “one of the best 4 or 5 heavyweights”, to me that does not imply #1 status. Guess it’s how one interprets it.

by chefdaddy on Aug 15, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions

aa will lose to barnett and lose to fedor.

by roy on Aug 15, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

PUNK…. thats exactly how i hope it works out, but some where in that mix i wanna see lesnars jaw smashed across the cage

by Insain on Aug 15, 2008 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Chef, its all in interpretation so I see where you could get that. Its just my opinion that Dana purposely worded it like that and that he knows Fedor is the best but simply can not say that unless Fedor works for him.

On a side note I find it pretty funny that all the AA fans are coming out lol be careful, we are some mean bloggers. AA has his work cut out for him with Barnett and then Fedor ahead of him. I also read that Fedor really wanted to fight AA and respects him much so I was impressed by that. Arlovski tends to fight on the level of his opponents so I just hope he ups his game and forces them to fight on his level. Arlovski for WAMMA champ

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

if dana thinks fedor is the best, then why can’t he admit it? since when has dana white not said what he thinks and what’s on his mind. what he says he honestly believes. if someone would punch dana white in his mouth just 1 time, he’d straighten up that mouth of his and act right.

by deuce 4 on Aug 15, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions

chef, Tiger Woods is one of the best 9 or 10 golfers. yea.. THAT good!

by kama kaze on Aug 15, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Duece are you honestly asking that question? If Coke is the best soda do you think Pepsi would admit it? This is why, you don’t admit that the competition is better. This takes away from your champion and degrades your company. Sure all the hardcore fans know that Fedor is the best but new fans to the MMA world do not, they probably only know who Fedor is because he beat Sylvia. So Dana goes on clean up and states that yeah Fedor is a top 5 guy so he should have beat Sylvia but Sylvia has been getting lazy and isn’t much of a litmus test. You get it, he’s cutting the win down so it degrades it instead of the UFC champ.

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 15, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Cogito Ergo Sum, i have always been an Arlovski fan from the beginning.I will continue to be a fan of his for the entire length of his career. hell i even try to watch all of Tanks fights still if possible.

by jdawg on Aug 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

We all know White is very bitter towards Fedor because he wanted a crazy UFC deal. White takes it very personal if anybody turns down an offer from the UFC. I don’t blame Fedor, he is the only fighter that has been able to stay away from D. White’s meat hooks because he is consider #1 p4p in the world by many fans. If I was Fedor, after all the ‘crap’ DW is saying, I’d stay out of the UFC for as long as possible trying out other promotions.

by THORAZINE on Aug 15, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Semtex told the ufc to bollox to the contract he was offerd, but you dont hear white chating shit about him – wonder why?

by Insain on Aug 16, 2008 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Kimbo… I’m joking of course.

Seriouly, what’s the hub bub about. There are no suprises here, this is Dana, doing what he does.

Let’s ignore the P4P arguement, it’s been beaten to death. He also said Fedor was one of the top 4 or 5 HW in the world, which he unquestionably is, say in no particular order:
Fedor
Couture
Big Nog
Barnett
AA

Why does Dana get everyone bent out of shape. He runs the UFC, don’t expect him to give an unbiased opinion.

by Scott on Aug 15, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly. unnecessary hub bub.

by kama kaze on Aug 15, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Scott, Don’t expect us to not get bent out of shape when DW give his shitty biased opinion… we just know he’s not being honest, he’s just being bitter, it’s not the 1st time. He can post his opinion to the media, we rebut his opinion here.

by THORAZINE on Aug 15, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions

do u want him to name guys that can beat the troll without getting paid to lose or not??

by coolguy on Aug 15, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Lesnar in time might give him a go, but win, man, Fedor is scary good.

by Harley on Aug 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions

More interesting than debating the top HWs like we always do is this: Why would Dana say what he’s saying? I think Dana is mostly honest, but he’s a promoter at heart and there’s a motive behind every statement. My guess is Dana wants to sign Fedor at some point. So this taunts Fedor into coming over, it opens up a negotiating point for Dana to not pay him a salary that the best P4P would demand, and he can say to Fedor, “If you really believe you’re the best, here’s your chance to prove it.” Posturing…..I guess that’s what I’d call it.

by Punch You in the Ovaries on Aug 15, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

As a promoter, Dana always has those ulterior motives!

by TheNegation on Aug 16, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

F off Dana! U r the one who kept selling us all Tim as the UFC HW champion for YEARS!!! Dana is the one that gave him like 5 title shots, now he throws him under the bus because Fedor destroyed him? Fedor was supposed to destroy him, its FEDOR!!! Fedor will destroy anyone Dana decides to put in front of him!

Not even close to being the best fighter….Give me a break! If and when Fedor signs with the UFC, Dana will be happier then a pig in S**T! once he becomes a UFC fighter, Dana will unleash the biggest Marketing campaign EVER for Fedor. He will be Marketed as the best fighter on the planet, so Dana stop pissing in my ear and telling me that its rain.

I love and respect Dana for everything that he has done, but I am sick of hearing his Biased Rankings and Analysis’s of fighters not signed with the UFC.

So Far, I have only heard Dana talk well about 2 guys NOT SIGNED to the UFC:

Sakuraba and Cung Le, every other non UFC fighter gets thrashed! F Off Dana, Fedor was the best fighter to come out of PRIDE, which was at 1 point bigger and better then the UFC. Dana just sounds stupid. he isnt fooling me thats for sure! Imagine If Mr. Sakikibara purchased the UFC but didnt get Chuck Liddell’s contract then started bashing Liddell? It would sound stupid, and Dana trashing FEDORE sounds even Dumber! Dana has this complex that causes him to thrash the competition. Funny thing is you NEVER heard Pride bad mouth the UFC (and at the time PRIDE was much bigger). Whenever a UFC fighter came over to fight in pRIDE, they were treated with respect, marketed as top fighters, the announcers didnt bad mouth them. Dana would even be a guest in the booth. Dana is basically like school on sunday! NO CLASS!!!!

All that money, and he is still classless! What a shame! Dana should be on Farnsworth Bently’s new show, “From G’s to Gents”, he could use a class on how to conducting ones self! lol

by john on Aug 15, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

John, your reaction is probably similar to what he wants out of Fedor. “If you’re the best, then come prove it” He’d be happy to eat his words along with cashing those checks. It’s promotion.

by Punch You in the Ovaries on Aug 15, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

If you agree with what I write, copy and paste it and email it to Dana and the UFC!
Open letter to Dana White,
Please cross promote with M-1. Allow there name to be on camera a few times and give the fans the fights we want as you’ve stated you want to do. Here are a list of worthy opponents for fedor: Chuck, Rampage, Wand, Nog, anderson silva, brock or even BJ to name a few. I think it would be great to sign Fedor and leave Randy on the outside looking in. Randy Coture has no business being considered for a fight with Fedor. He signed a contract to fight the best in the UFC, and is making more than anyone to fight the best! He not only lied to and deceived the fans, but has disrespected all contenders in the UFC. The UFC did Randy a favor, he had been ko’d twice at LHW, so he gets rewarded by fighting a hurt Tim Sylvia and an over rated Gonzaga. How does he repay you Dana, he faxes a resignation and starts bashing the organization that made him. I want nothing more than for Randy to wake up one day, in retirement, and wonder “WHAT IF!” What if he wasn’t so greedy, what if he actually had fought Fedor. Please do all the fans a favor, sign Fedor, and dump Randy, it wouldn’t be a fight anyways.

by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 15, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

@ kevin doesn’t know shit

I like the way you think. But don’t bother entertaining a potential cross-promotion. The presence of Fedor would draw others, don’t you think? All the HWs would want to be the first to beat him. And he’s already said he’d like to fight Lesnar. And Lesnar’s already said he wants to fight the best. Even if that fight seems like a PRIDE-type sideshow act, it would be huge.

by MMACrossfire on Aug 15, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Kevin: Rampage already stated that he wants nO PARTS of Fedor!

SEnd your letters all u want. There is no changing Dana!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Fedor will not sign with the UFC. HIs is bigger than the UFC. He wont allow Dana to control him like Dana controls everyone else. Fedor has done just fine with the UFC. Only way you will ever see Fedor in the UFC is for Dana to loosen up the reigns because NO CHANCE Fedor gets controlled by Dana! Fedor has zillions of fans through out the world, in markets that the UFC doesnt even reach like Japan and Korea. For example, Fedor is competing in Combat Sambo in NOvember. I know none of us give a crap about Sambo, but its very important to Fedor and his countrymen so who is Dana to prevent him from doing so? Fedor has way too many different things goi9ng on worldwide to be confined to the UFC’s controlling contracts!

unless Dana wants to sign Fedor just for a Mega fight with Couture, we wont be seeing Fedor in the octagon, and I have made my peace with that. After he fights Barnett and Arlovski there is really no one left for him to beat anyway…and He will get his shot at beating Josh and Andre in Affliction!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

you crack me up john “what does dana have to lose by letting him compete in sambo?” What if fedor tears an acl or breaks a bone, he just lost an investment. Rampage not wanting any part of him shows me the character of Rampage. As far as Fedor being bigger than the UFC…yes over seas, but without UFC, he’ll never have a huge american fan base.. Fedor wants just as many crazy demands as dana by the way! I just want the best fights, and other than AA, I see none for fedor outside ufc

by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

barnett is better than aa and will win that fight.dana won’t lose anything if he doesn’t have it to began with.all he needs to do is pay fedor to fight and if he can’t he doens’t get paid,plus you can tear your acl training and i dout the ufc still pays them or there dr bills.and i agree with john there is no one in the ufc that fedor needs to beat, after aa and barnett he has beat every hw worth fighting.

by roy on Aug 15, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

roy, you’d disagree if I said fedor is white, has nothing to do with anything but disagreeing with me. For some strange reason, I like you though!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 15, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

thats funny kevin, but i do agree with you when your right, its just very rare.i would not state something just to disagree with you but you can tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.if you would like to make a bet on barnett vs aa i would take it and it would be a closer bet than the last one.

by roy on Aug 15, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

have you not noticed I haven’t changed my name, and it’s been a lot longer than 2 weeks. I don’t care roy, I just don’t see how pinions are right or wrong. So you agreeing only when I’m right makes no sense. They are opinions buddy, it’s objective! I think AA wins, we’’ll see about a bet. What do you mean by closer? the #‘s were never released, and do you really trust aticino? we’ll never know how close the first bet was, and I made the bet knowing I’d lose, my point was that they wouldn’t do good #‘s and fedor’s lack of ppv pull in the states!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 15, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Kevin: Deon Sanders used to play football and baseball. neither of his teams had any say in what he did outside of each of their respected sports! Dana can make Fedor fight MMA exclusively for the UFC, but he cant have any say in what Fedor does outside of mma. If Fedor wants to compete in Sambo (a completely different sport) for his country none the less, who the F is Dana to say that he cant?

Come on man, I love your oppinion, but you made some terrible points!

Why does Fedor need an American Fan base? Last I checked, every American ranking system or magazine has him rated as the #1 HW in the world for years now. He is Rich, he has a trillion movie offers and Fans in parts of the world that the UFC doesnt even reach, For Example: Korea, china, Japan, Russia. Fedor has much more to loose then gain by allowing Dana to control him. Why come to the UFC, they dont even have the top HW’s (besides NOG, 1 of my favorite fighters) who like our Bjj analyist philQny will tell you: Fedor made nog’s jits look white belt level. THe Italian president even sat ringside at one of his fights. THis man is beloved by Royalty even. THese are accolades that UFC fighters could only dream of!

Fedor is Mike JOrdan, and if Dana ever wants to have the best fighter in the world in his organization….Time to bend the rules! if not, he can just continue to hate on him from a far!

by john on Aug 15, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions

i didn’t notice or care about your name change it if you like or leave it,it doesn’t affect me.i will say than that i agree with you when i do and i disagree when i don’t.you post that i say things just to disagree with you and i wouldn’t bother.your right tom never gave the numbners so maybe there alot higher tahn 100,000 or maybe there not, but we know they beat 25,000 and aa vs barnett is a tough one so that why it more of a even bet than the last but i would be happy to take barnett in that one with you.

by roy on Aug 15, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions

good point with deoin, but that was a different era. now a days, pro athletes can’t even ski or do something as simple as play basketball. I think it was boone for the yankees that is a perfect example of this, and he wasn’t even a superstar. i’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do see where dana is coming from. It’s a big reason he didn’t sign AA, he wants to explore pro boxing!

by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 15, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

kevin and john, it was in deion’s contract with both sports to allow him to play the other. It ALL depends on what contract each side would sign.

by chefdaddy on Aug 15, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I know Dana has made some pretty bizarre remarks before, and I know they were mostly made to protect his company. But to say Fedor isnt even close to being the best would look pretty silly on his part since Dana was the one that offered him a million per fight in the UFC which is twice as much as his golden boy Liddell or what Couture as getting. Part of the reason Couture got upset. This is the same Fedor that beat the current UFC HW champ 3 times. Let me guess Dana….Fedor wil never be number 1 in your book unless he signs with the UFC? These remarks sound more desperate than anything.

by c-war on Aug 15, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions

To be honest I agree with him….Tim after roids has been a big let down!

by Robert on Aug 15, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I mean’t agree about Tim not Fedor…Fedor is number 1 easy, altough i would love to see AA fight him, to bad Barnet is going to win.

by Robert on Aug 15, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course Dana’s not going to say Fedor(a fighter not in his promotion) is the best. That would make UFC fans who dont know much about Fedor want to buy an Affliction PPV to see him. Why would he advertise for his competition?

by RiverHorror on Aug 15, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions

dana keeps talking shit.

fedor needs to beat dana’s ass.

by Verbal Kint on Aug 15, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions

all of a sudden everyone isd sticking behind tim sylvia…i remembr when almost all of you said tim didnt deserves title shots and was not even close to being top 10. now not taking anything away form fedor…but you all used tim as an excuse to solidify fedor as top p4p and top hw. only then do you all say man fedor beat tim sylvia…what more proof do you need? tim was stinking it all up…getting paid for horrible performances.left to ufc to seek easy money…he got paid more than fedor for getting dog raped by fedor.

by santiago69us on Aug 15, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions

santiago69us – I don’t think it is so much about supporting Sylvia directly. It is about the disrespect Dana White shows an ex-UFC champion. It’s a matter of principle. White will trash-talk anyone who is not in the UFC. The fact that he even puts Fedor in the top 5 heavyweights is practically a miracle. Just a year ago he said that Fedor sucked. Guaranteed: If Fedor signed with the UFC, he would become “the greatest fighter in history”… overnight!

by MMACrossfire on Aug 15, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

your right. dana only talks bad about about fedor cuz he didnt sign and randy and he (alledgedly) walked out becuase of this, sorta. as far as tim sylvia goes, i think tim took a little jab at the ufc in an interview when he said something along to the effects that he was glad to be with a co. (affliction) that was finally taking care of their fighters. he may have not said it word for word like that,but it was close and you can tell what he meant. thats why you dont hear arlovski saying anything bad and dana and dana not badmouthing him either. i think both parties know that they will have to enter negotiations again sooner or later.

by b.w. on Aug 15, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

i’m not going t back Sylvia. he fought fedor like a total bitch. Not to take anything away from Fedor, he is a super bad dude. #2 p4p in the James S rankings ( just barely behind A Silva), but when you are the taller longer fighter, how are you gonna let an opponent rush inside, and then just stand and let him smash your face, take your back and submit you in 36 seconds. i think Timmy was expecting a “feeling out process” for the first round and was totally blind sided when Fedor decided to just start whoopin ass right off the back. He should have stuck a jab and circled a bit,…. or something. It was pathetic. It was Fedor’s third fastest finish , and I have never heard of his opponents in the two fastest, but i gurantee they didn’t make 800,000 for their efforts.

by James S on Aug 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

MMACROSSFIRE- basically its vice/versa what going on here.fans can trash talk sylvia and dana cant? right? so what right do these ppl have to criticize dana when they themselves put themselves in the same level. my point is not about dana running his mouth..he will always do that and still do a great job with UFC…my point is we judge dana for doing this yet so many here say…yeah tim and tito and crocop go run from ufc where you cant win. all tim did was complain about not getting title shots immediately after his losses and regain status thru poor performances. alot of us talk crap from our computers with none of us ever being in these room where dana and sonamed fighter have these talks about their issues. i think dana has a right to be pissed at tim for leaving…tim didnt want to carry his weight anymore and still look for big bank,title shots and ppv main events. and dana gave him what he wanted and when he loses again. he leaves and looks for an easy payday. ill say what i want about tim or fedor but i wont talk about why dana should do the sammething…Hypocracy was the point of my argument.

by santiago69us on Aug 15, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn! That shit is harsh. But he does look like he would give off an unpleasant odor

by mattchupichu on Aug 15, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions

Wow them are some harsh words. Poor Tim everyone always dumping on him.

by Mark B. on Aug 15, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions

“Stinking up the joint” ROFL, man thats sad, Tim vs Arlovski was carrying their HW division for a while, Dana’s butt hurt that he can’t get Fedor so he’s throwing Tim under the bus. I’m actually one of Dana’s supporters, I like the guy think he does the sport good, but he’s really quick to start bad mouthing fighters at every turn. Really unfortunate.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 15, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions

Timmy did suck and AA wasn’t much better in my opinion. The most boring fight I have ever been witness to was those two jackasses dancing aroung eachother for 25 damn minutes. At that point I wrote them both off, because they were both afraid to take a damn punch. I was pissed with that entire dancing with the turds match.

by The Beast on Aug 15, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

DW never stops to amaze me, that was just uncalled for. Guess he never learns… Timmey, like him or hate him, is a top 10 HW do doubt.

by linx on Aug 15, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions

Danas right, Name the last time Tim looked impressive in a fight….. Hes awful…..

by Apex on Aug 15, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions

Dana has done a great job of building the organization. But now that the Fertitas are taking an active role and the UFC is in the forefront of sports today, I wonder how long they’ll let him run his mouth. Okay Tim isn’t in the UFC anymore. But Dana is burning bridges. Also he talks trash on current fighters as well. That’s not professional for an organization where the UFC is today.

by wAyNe on Aug 15, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions

Back up your claims Dana. Name the guys that are better in the HW division than Fedor. Don’t even try saying Nog. That argument doesn’t fly. No one has as much skill at HW as Fedor let alone any other division. Top two P4P fighters in the world are Fedor and Silva. Not GSP, not Penn, no one. Anyone who believes that Dana is right about this is just a UFC Nuthugger and can’t see that the UFC is a promotion, not a sport.

by Spider Style on Aug 15, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions

lol, u didn’t read it, he said Fedor is one of the best 4 or 5 top HW’s, what he knocked him on was that “hes not the best pound-for-pound fighter, not even close”.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 15, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions

gotta agree with you here. Come on…Tim was fighting FEDOR…the number 1 HW in the world. Fact is Dana really thought Tim was gonna win and show everyone that “Fedor is a farce” lol Fedor showed Dana in 36 seconds how much of a farce he was by spanking his former HW champ, so now he has to go out and talk trash and say Tim Sylvia was stinking for the past couple years to make it not look so bad that Fedor beat Tim so easily.

Its too bad Dana doesnt realize that Fedor would beat most HWs in the UFC just as quickly as he did Tim.

by Chadx23 on Aug 15, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

while i disagree with your p4p picks, i agree with you about Dana trashing tim, being as tim was just ufc hw a short time ago. and fedor is just top four or five hw’s? come dana, get a grip.
Fedor is at least better than the current ufc hw, so who is on Dana’s list as being better than fedor?

by fletcherthunder on Aug 15, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

I guess I read it differently as in “one of the top 4 or 5 best heavyweights” not he IS the 4th or 5th best heavy weight. When I read it it sounds like he’s throwing Fedor into a group of 4-5 guys, 3-4 which names are not disclosed and not assigning him a ranking.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 15, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions

This is funny tim dose stink I bet and tim dose suck

by shawnizzle on Aug 15, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions

Brilliant analysis.

by R-Dizzle on Aug 15, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

His analysis is only surpassed by his spelling.

by chefdaddy on Aug 15, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions

lmao

by c-war on Aug 15, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

That is pretty unprofessional IMO. How are you going to question the legitimacy and skill of a guy who just fought for your HW title recently? He had been a champion twice and now that he fights elsewhere Dana shits all over him. As usual Dana is showing his maturity.

by Ballam on Aug 15, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions

ouch.
yeah, while i appreciate Dana speaks his mind, he also has to watch out for burning his bridges. while alot of people, including me, was sick of watching tim fight he may improve to be the best in the world and he would never want to fight for the UFC again because of Dana’s mouth.
you never know what’s going to happen in the future, so it’s best to play it safe, especially in business.
but wow was i sick of watching his fights. the only reason he’s a top 10 hw is his size, if he had serious skills he would be unstoppable. he is as boring as machida, but at least you can tell machida has skills, whereas tim just relies on his size.

by fletcherthunder on Aug 15, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions

Ouch…

That’s a bit harsh. I agree with what he is saying, but he didn’t have to say it like THAT.

(I don’t agree with Fedor being the #4-5 HW, though. He’s definitely #1)

by R-Dizzle on Aug 15, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions

Dana right about Big Dumb Tim. The guy was and is such a goof. Why dont I wear my belt everywhere I go? They only reason he is even in MMA is because of his height. If he was 6’0 or 6’2 everyone would roll through him just like Fedor did. Fuck Tim.
Let him fight Butterbean, Bob Sapp and Hong Man Choi and all the other freakshows.

by the_mexicutioner on Aug 15, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions

Dana’ comments are a tad unprofessional but he’s right about Tim’s performance as of late. Tim hasn’t been the same since he’s been off ‘the juice’. Any top ten HW would walk through Tim.

by mma_dad on Aug 15, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions

There is no reason to kick Tim while he is down. Win or lose, Tim stepped up to the challenge and he has only lost to the top HWs in the world.

by bostonmmajunkie on Aug 15, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions

Wow! While I like Dana and totally agree with his comment, I wonder if he talks s**t about everyone behind their backs? Dana’s doing his level best to redefine “professionalism.”

by BigRedOne on Aug 15, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions

Tim complained about Brock’s salary and then $800,000 oh s***! Lost fight so quickly. He is not serious fighter so he thinks $$$ in his mind.

by Anthony on Aug 15, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions

Not Cool Dana…
Now you’re one of thouse bosses. The ones who talk shit about a former employee.

I dont like Sylvia Either, but…Not cool

by Samkip on Aug 15, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions

Dana White is right Tim Sylvia sucks. In the Nogueira fight he was so focus that he was going to make so much money after the fight that he lost focus and got choked out. I hate the fact that all this fighters that think they deserve a lot of money but their time in this sport has come and gone.

by Wicked_1 on Aug 15, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions

Even though I have to agree with Dana’s feelings, that is harsh to make a public statement. He is coming across like the kid on the block that is mad cause Timmy doesn’t want to play with him.???

by InsaneRide on Aug 15, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions

Nah, Tim really is on his way out I think, he’s been lack luster since his rubber match with AA, no real impressive/exciting fights ever since.. Dana’s on the money he’s just way overly critical and public about it.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 15, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Like it or not Tim Sylvia is a top8 HW. Everyone seems to have forgotten that he actually had Nogueira in all sorts of trouble and knocked him down a couple of times before getting caught.
I think it really undermines the credibility of the UFC to have Dana White talk so much crap about fighters and to say something like that about your ex HW champ is just purely bad judgement.
I understand that he doesn’t call Fedor the greatest fighter ever but to say shit like that about Sylvia is just way over the line.

by Hokutoryu man on Aug 15, 2008 10:58 AM EDT reply actions

Not sure whats more sad, kicking Tim when he is down or acting a fool by calling Fedor #4 or #5 in the world. For christs sake, Frank Mir has a title shot in the UFC against Big Nog, who got crushed by Fedor.

Only interesting fights left for Fedor are:
- Arvlovski (too small heavyweight)
- Barnett (realistic chance)
- Cro Cop (yea, I’m a fanboi, give me a break :P)
- Couture (highly unlikely to happen anytime soon)

by YouTapped on Aug 15, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply actions

How is Arlovski small? He’s 6-3 and 240. He just looks smaller because he doesn’t really have the fat that most HW’s do.

Arlovski IMO would lose to Fedor b/c of his lack of chin and heart. If you give AA the chin of Hunt, and the heart of Nog, then he has a chance lol.

by Pat on Aug 15, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Dana is taking everyone for a ride again, and you’re all coming along. He talks shit about every fighter that’s not in the UFC (except maybe Saku), even Nog, Cro, Wandy, Sho, Rampage, etc. before he signed these guys. Then when he signed them, he hyped them up.

And just a reminder, top 4-5 means he could be anywhere from #1 to #5. Tiger Woods is a top 5 golfer. Michael Phelps is a top 5 swimmer. It doesn’t mean they are number 5!

by Pat on Aug 15, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions

C’mon now…name one guy that Fedor would be the underdog against.

by c-war on Aug 15, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions

You’re missing the entire point of my post. Dana chose his words carefully. He didn’t say that Fedor is not number 1,. he said he’s top 4 or 5, which could still mean that Dana thinks he’s number 1. It’s just a clever way of avoiding saying he’s number 1 outright. If you’re #1, then you’re obviously top 4 or 5.

PS If you’re asking for my personal opinion, Fedor is far and away the best HW in the world.

by Pat on Aug 15, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions

ffs… am I shitlisted or why does every comment of mine have to be withheld-and-reviewed-before-posted? =/

by YouTapped on Aug 15, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions

It always amazes me that some people don’t get Dana White, like Cogito stated earlier, he’s a business man. He is trying to promote his product. I hope the UFC does suceed to the point it is THE source for MMA and it becomes something akin to the NFL, MLB, etc. Complain about Dana and Zuffa all you want but the one thing you can not deny is that they put MMA on the map in the USA. And for that fact alone, I applaud them and their efforts.

Now that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t support another company (Affliction, EliteXC, WEC, etc) but right now, none of them really compare to the UFC either financially or depth of fighters on any given card.

by TheBuffalo on Aug 15, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions

i love how as soon as any one talks trash about any one fans go on auto crying foul .some one up there said DW was ‘butt hurt’ seems to me like every one crying about trash talking is ‘butt hurt’its freaking MMA . get over it hell if tim can get bigfoot mauld by fedor he can take white calling him stinky.hmm and if every one complains about white being classless why dont you look at yourself, in a forum crying about one rich guy being butt hurt by one or more rich guys…before crying about other peoples class get some of your own. yes i know im classless too but im not being a whinny child because my fav lil fighter didnt get the exact word phrase i deem hes intitled too.

by whimwham on Aug 15, 2008 11:28 AM EDT reply actions

Good if the sloth KO’d dana in front of some gyal – on camera. Id even pay to see that

by Insain on Aug 15, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions

Dana is an a$$hole everybody needs to see that.. he’s the one that is trying to be a superstar! he does everything he can to always be in centre, videoblogging and public statements.. Fedor is and has already proved that he’s the no.1 heavyweight in the world, the only real challenges left for him is Josh Barnett and AA .. he would outclass Randy if they ever fought especially in a ring..

by RoB on Aug 15, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions

Sometimes Dana’s outbursts are so stupidly funny.

If Fedor signed for the UFC last October when they held the talks, Dana would right now be saying something along the lines of:

“Fedor is without question the number 1 heavyweight of all time. No question…..He’s a fu*king animal. I’m telling ya, the whole world is going to know who Fedor is.”

He’d being kissing his ass if he was in the UFC.

Dana is great with the fans but he’s full of $h!t. Always trying to discredit those outside the UFC.

Don’t listen to Dr. Evil.

by RobH86 on Aug 15, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions

With those comments Dana makes himself sound like a newbie in the sport. Fedor is the best heavyweight period and there surely isn’t anyone in the UFC that is better or Fedor hasn’t beaten. I’m really getting sick and tired of Dana bashing fighters just because they’re not in the UFC. Eventually he’ll prove it further as Fedor will fight the whole heavyweight roster within the Affliction company within the next year or two because of the limited numbers of fighters within their heavyweight division.

by Jason on Aug 15, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions

why do so many people care what dana says if they hate him so much and dont have any respect for him. just ignore him if his opinions mean so little to you. i love it! watch out for dr. evil dana, he is the bane of all existence and every one NEEDS to know this. who again is fedor fighting in december, does anyone know? maybee choi again? the #1 p4p fighter and hw is fighting another CAN! this sounds like something more to complain about then a week old statement made by white.

by b.w. on Aug 15, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions

Well he is going to fight the winner of Arlovski-Barnett at Affliction 3 I believe. Are those two cans as well?

by Aaron_W on Aug 15, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

those guys are not cans, but those fights are not yet signed either. fedor/sylvia only happened by the grace of god and one mans willingness to pay way too much money and sign fighters at any cost. fedor has openly stated that he will be fighting in japan on nye against a sumo or judo legend. translation:a can. he was supposed to fight andrei in oct but couldnt cuz of a broken hand( gee he is human after all). only time will tell. there may not even be an affliction 3, so we’ll see. fedor is the #1 hw and top 5 p4p in the world imo and should have to live up to that same “gold” standard that we expect a.silva, gsp, and b.j to live up to. fedor shut up all the doubters with 1 fight against sylvia, but can easily open them right back up with another freakshow fight.

by b.w. on Aug 15, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Dana is one negative SOB. No wonder the only fighters who like him are the ones who constantly kiss his ass. If they don’t he can only bite his lip for so long.

Also Dana is clearly implying he doesn’t think Fedor is the top HW. Sorry you folks up higher missed that. He said top “4 or 5” which can only be one of two things: an attempt to bait fans (it worked) or a direct implication that Fedor is either 4th or 5th (BS).

And finally, it’s a sad state of MMA fandom that so many fans are still incapable of doing more than bickering about the ridiculous concept of best p4p fighters. Really, it’s stupid.

by clayton on Aug 15, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions

You’re right about the P4P talk it is silly. I think P4P only works in a situation where you have another number besides the weight class they are in. Let me explain because I am sure I already lost you. If this were weight lifting we could say that GSP is better P4P because he lifts 340 pounds, Fedor lifts 420 pounds. Now GSP weights 170 and Fedor weights 235. So GSP is P4P better than Fedor because he is lifting twice his weight, where as Fedor is only lifting 1.787 of his weight. So it does work well with 2 numbers but not 1.

by jay on Aug 15, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

if cheick kongo had a takedown defense and ground game maybe he could cut fedor> thats a big if though because his ground game sucks and his takedown defense is lackluster.
fabricio werdum barnett and nogueira are 3 of the most likely names who might have a shot( very very small shot but a shot)
but i think the guy with the best chance is gonzaga
gonzaga is very dangerous his kicks are nasty and his submissions are great. he has a very slight chance of defeating fedor! thats it though

by the heat on Aug 15, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions

did you watch the randy fight?

by Insain on Aug 15, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

ye i saw hick kick randy’s arm in half did you

by the heat on Aug 15, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m willing bet my left testicle that if Fedor signs with UFC, Dana will be calling him the best P4P fighter in the world.

by bostonmmajunkie on Aug 15, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions

I’m with you on this one. In fact, I’ll wager all three of my testicles.

by Pat on Aug 15, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

lmfao. pat maybe you should change your screen name to E.T. for extra testicle.that was funny though

by jdawg on Aug 15, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Fedor #1 Heavyweight #2 p4p. Dana please stop talking shit.

by StabToTheLiver on Aug 15, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions

if you ever come back to this string, tell me who is #1 P4P. If Fedor isn’t #1 than who?

by jay on Aug 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Anderson Silva im assuming!

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 15, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

wow…thats some harsh s*!t

by jet99 on Aug 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions

too harsh, the 5 people who have beat tim are arguably top 5 hw in the world

by mashurst on Aug 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions

Ha ha! I love the part where he puts Tim Sylvia in his place. Fedor is the best heavyweight in the world though, so I only like 50% of DW’s opinion.

by LJ on Aug 15, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions

I just watched the vid on Dana’s press conference when the Tito Superfan asked him why he didn’t lay off Tito and be the bigger man; and Dana said he can’t help himself…so there you go, they guy is self aware that he likes to talk trash, and he obviously likes to trash guys who aren’t on his “team” more than those that are- logical for a self proclaimed “kid”. It is disrespectful in any walk of life to talk trash, IF you beleive in honor and the gentleman’s code; but Dana obviously doesn’t consider himself a gentleman. No big deal, he is a great businessman, promoter, and wildly successful. Helped develop a sport I love into a mainstream attraction- so for that alone, we can appreciate his accomplishments. He is boldly loyal to his friends, i.e. Jackson. He fights for his companies best interest. He gets his expense reports in on time. Great employee. Good friend. Dickhead if you don’t like what he wants…so what’s the problem? Well, Tim Sylvia isn’t talking trash to Dana is he? Well, we don’t know. Maybe Tim is a trash talking street urchin, or maybe he is a really good guy just trying to make a living doing something he likes to do…that few people have the skill or balls to do. And Dana is a prick afterall. Punk ass bitch is the trash term actually. I frankly prefer gentleman; and I look forward to a day when there are no stables in MMA, only fighters fighting the best…and no Dana White types doing the Don King thing. But that won’t happen, it’s business, and in business there are no rules, only money.

Harley

by Harley on Aug 15, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions

POST OF THE YEAR!!!

by Pat on Aug 15, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

“One of the four or five best heavyweights”—give me a break, Dana. I guess the UFC doesn’t have any of the top five heavyweights in the world if that’s the case. Fedor has taken the high ground in response to Dana’s comments in the past. Dana could learn a thing or two from Fedor in regards to class and respect (or nearly anyone for that matter), I can’t help but think that Dana has next to none. He’s a pretty sad excuse for a company spokesperson, I still say the UFC should think about hiring a professional to deal with public relations tasks that Dana is too much of an ass to competently handle himself.

by Scott on Aug 15, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions

I can’t wait for the day that another org is more succesful than the UFC.. then Dana will really sound like an idiot, he only talks shit right now because he can!

by RoB on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

Did Dana molest you when you were little or something? You have so much anger toward the man that you should be thanking for MMA existing today. I told you before and I’ll tell you again, you should thank Dana for what he’s done for the sport. If it wasn’t for him, you would be looking at porn right now on the computer.

by RedDog on Aug 15, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Fedor proved that Tim shouldn’t have fights with top level fighters anymore.

by RipTheSystem on Aug 15, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions

amen

by RedDog on Aug 15, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

IF IF IF IF A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD!!! brock gets any sub defense
maybe he could donkey kong fedor into a victory, but by the time hed be ready fedor probably will be retired!

NOW, let the hate beginnnnnn

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 15, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions

tim sold out for more money and then got a hiding. good job. ufc won’t want him back neways

by markg on Aug 16, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions

cant wait to hear Tims response to this, when news broke tim negotiated out of his contract and signed with adrenelane MMA he was saying how he left on good terms and UFC is great bla blah blah ……………………………………I think he will be changing his tune now

by dia mette on Aug 16, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions

Dana said,“he’s one of the four or five best heavyweights.” Which means he’s in the top 4 or 5. Anywhere from #1 to #5. Let go of the hate and comprehend what you read.

by mmmGuru on Aug 16, 2008 2:49 AM EDT reply actions

I would have to say Fedor is the number one HW fighter in the world. But he is right Tim Sylvia is sloppy, if the guy did some sit ups it would help at least a little

by Tyson Harris on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 AM EDT reply actions

DANA IS A CHILD.

by sal costello on Aug 16, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions

Dana is a Wuz, always talkin crap about Fedor cuz he’d never sign to his pussy circus, everyone knows he’s the best and no fighter has proved me wrong so far. Who’s next? Cotoure, ‘course not, White has no reason to destroy his lil empire so soon, so thei’re sending over Arlovski, and though he’s gonna be back home in a body bag as well, he might give Fedor a bit more work than this punk just did. So Screw UFC, screw Dana White, Fedor Kicks ASS!!!!

by Iggy on Aug 18, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions

To All you AA fans. Remember in the promo where AA is saying, “He is human”. Heres how you know your the best fighter in the world, when your opponents have to convince themselves prior to fighting you that you are mortal flesh and not some horrible combat robot killing machine.

http://images.google.com/images?q=fedor&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

by russianprime on Jan 22, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions