UFC 88 results and LIVE fight coverage for 'Breakthrough' PPV event September 6
by DrubySunshine on Aug 14, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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UFC 88: "Breakthrough" is set go off tonight (September 6) LIVE from the Philips Arena in Atlanta, Ga., on pay-per-view (PPV) at 10 p.m. ET.
MMAmania.com will provide LIVE blow-by-blow, round-by-round coverage of the main card bouts, beginning with the 10 p.m. ET PPV telecast. In addition, we will deliver up-to-the-minute quick results of the under card action at around 8:30 p.m. ET.
Many of our readers check-in before, during and after the PPV telecast to share their thoughts on the action. Therefore, feel free to leave a comment or 10 before you leave and chat with many of our readers during the show — it always turns out to be a great discussion.
Keep in mind that we will also be the spot for the latest news, recaps and post-fight analysis after UFC 88.
Without further delay, see below for the latest UFC 88 results. (Note: This will go from the bottom up; therefore, scroll toward the bottom for the latest detailed round-by-round action!)
UFC 88 QUICK RESULTS:
Rashad Evans defeats Chuck Liddell via KO Round 2
Rich Franklin defeats Matt Hamill via TKO Round 3
Dan Henderson defeats Rousimar Palhares via Unanimous Decision
Nate Marquardt defeats Martin Kampmann via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Dong Hyun Kim defeats Matt Brown via Split Decision
Kurt Pellegrino defeats Thiago Tavares via unanimous decision
Tim Boetsch defeats Mike Patt via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Jason MacDonald defeats Jason Lambert via Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Round 2
Ryo Chonan defeats Roan Carneiro via Split Decision
UFC 88 BLOW-BY-BLOW LIVE MAIN CARD COMMENTARY::
Druby here ready for some blood and guts MMA. It should be a big night of fights so sit back relax and soak it in. Lets ride Maniacs.
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans (205-pound limit)
Round one: Evans crouched low looking for a shot. Evans light on his feet not standing in one spot too long. Chuck stalking Evans. Chuck with a right to the chin. Evans on his heels looking to avoid Liddells range. Big right hook from Evans and that punch had some giddy up on it. Lidell answers with a good right. Lidells being patient. Leg kick from Evans. Left hook from Evans. LIddell misses with a right. Chuck circling and stalking. Rashad just dancing and staying out of range, Leg kick from Evans. Nice right hook from Evans and Chuck lands a jab. Nice right from Liddell. Chuck with a small cut over his right eye. Liddell goes for a jab. Inside leg kick from Evans and Liddell lands a left hook, Liddell with an uppercut. Evans backed into a corner but he dances out. Chuck with a roundhouse head kick to end the round. Chuck has a big mouse underneath his eye, That was a close round it could go either way. Id say Chuck 10-9.
Round two: Evans corner tells him hes pissing off Chuck by dancing around his punches. It seems his strategy is to bob and weave. Good kick from Chuck and then a right. Rashad lands two good lefts. Lidell with a right and hes backing him into a corner. Evans just dances away. NIce left hook from Evans. Evans just misses a right and now hes seeming alot more confident. OMG Evans throws a HUGE right and Chuck Liddell is OUT COLD. A ONE PUNCH KO FROM RASHAD EVANS. CHUCK LIDDELL IS LYING ON THE FLOOR AND NOT RESPONDING. EVANS KNOCKS OUT LIDDELL WITH ONE PUNCH!!!! OH MY GOD I CANT BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW. EVANS COLDCOCKED LIDDELL. 3 MINUTES AFTER THE PUNCH AND LIDDELL IS STILL OUT COLD. UNBELIEVABLE.
Round three:
Final result: Rashad Evans defeats Chuck Liddell via KO Round 2
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Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill (205-pound limit)
Round one: Hamill circling Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin. Franklin with another leg kick looking to create distance. Hamill with a leg kick then jab. Uppercut from Hamill. Franklin leg kick. Jab from Franklin and then a leg kick. Right from Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin. Jab from Hamill. Franklin cut above his eye, he lands a leg kick. Hamill surprisingly not trying to take Rich down. Leg kick from Franklin. Both fighters exchange rights. Leg kick from Franklin. Body shot from Franklin and Hamill with a take down. Rich now going for an armbar but Hamill breaks free. Hamill is now cut also. BIG knee on the way up from Franklin. Another big knee from Franklin. Thats the bell. Somewhat unspectacular 1st rd, id give it to Franklin 10-9 but it could go either way.
Round two: Leg kick from Franklin and Hamill catches the leg briefly. BIg head kick from Rich and a good right hook to follow. The fight is stopped to cut away a flap of skin from Franklins cut. Nice combo from Franklin. Franklin body kick. Jab and uppercut from Hamill. Big head kick from Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin. The ref stops it from a kick to the groin from Franklin. Front kick from Hamill. Head kick from Franklin and a good right left combo. Hamill needs to get this to the ground hes just eating kicks and punches. Now their clinched up against the fence and Rich lands a kick. Jab from Hamill. Body kick from Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin. Uppercut from Hamill but theres nothing behind it. Body kick from Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin. Leg kick from Franklin. Hamill catches a leg but doesnt capitalize and lets Franklin go. Hamill is just standing there like a sparring partner and not going for take downs. Hamill catches Franklins leg again but does nothing with it but just hold
it out there. Thats the bell. Franklin is picking Hamill apart hes not doing anything to win the fight. Hes not trying take downs or throwing good punches hes just circling and standing there. His game plan is confusing. 10-9 Franklin.
Round three: Hamill has no urgency. Body kick from Franklin. Knee to the body from Franklin and a kick, and Franklin lands a HUGE liver kick and Hamill goes down. Thats it its all over Franklin wins. Franklin looked impressive on his feet, but in all fairness Hamill looked horrible the whole night. No striking and only 2 take down attempts. Hamill looked more like a sparring partner than he did a contender. Franklin with a great showing, but I think Matt Hamill took a step back in his progression as a fighter. The big stage might have gotten to him but the stand out wrestler didnt fight to his strengths and basically just stood and took punishment from Franklin. Nice win for Franklin, Hamill needs some work.
Final result: Rich Franklin defeats Matt Hamill via TKO Round 3
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Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares (185-pound limit)
Round one: Hendo with a low crouched stance looking to counter the shot of Palhares early. His right is cocked. Palhares shoots and Hendo lands a big right and then Hendo starts swinging for the fences and almost gets caught in a submission. Back to the feet and Palhares shoots and is stuffed. Stuffed again by Hendo. Palhares switches to southpaw. Big body kick from Hendo and a big right from Hendo. Wheel kick from Palhares. Palhares shoots and misses. Hendo is looking to counter the shot with his big right, Head kick from Palhares. Good jab from Palhares and Hendo just misses a HUGE right. Lazy head kick from Palhares. Jab from Palhares. Palhares charges and Hendo lands a BIG right hook. Palhares is down. Palhares back to the feet and throws 3 wild kicks. WOW great action. Hendo locked and cocked with the right. Jab from Palhares. Good jab from Hendo. Palhares back to righty stance. Palhares shoots and gets on top of Hendo. 30 seconds left. Palhares moves to half guard and Hendo holding onto his head. Hendo will wait out the round, good defense from Hendo. Palhares just missed locking in a knee bar but the bell stopped him. 10-9 Hendo do to his BIG right from the feet.
Round two: Jab from Hendo. Palhares shoots and misses then goes for a head kcik and Hendo ducks and tosses him to the ground. Palhares shoots and picks up Hendo and lands a HUGE slam. WOW that looked like a power bomb what a great take down. Palhares postures up and Hendo goes for a triangle and now Palhares locked in a heel hook!!! Hendo though throws a big right and slips out. Back to the feet. Hendo with a left and big right. Front kick from Palhares. Palhares shoots and now Hendo gets on top and lands a right. Hendo now covering Palhares mouth trying to disrupt his breathing. Hendo with a right from the top. Palhares with full guard. Palhares looking to sweep Hendo. Hendo still trying to interrupt his breathing. Herb Dean stands them up. Both fighters getting their breath. Good right from Hendo. Leg kick from Palhares. Head kick from Palhares. Hendo misses a BIG right to end the round. Once again id give it to Hendo 10-9.
Round three: Jab from Hendo. Jab from Palhares. Hendo with an uppercut and Palhares lands a heel kick. Jab from Palhares. Back to southpaw from Palhares. Head kick missed from Palhares. Hendo with a jab. Sprawl from Hendo then a glancing right. Jab from Hendo stops a shot. BIG right from Hendo and another. Over the top right from Palhares. Big right from Hendo. Palhares swinging wildly. Hendo looking for a spot to use his big right. The fans are booing. Big left from Hendo. 2 minutes left. The pace has slowed to a crawl. BIG right from Hendo and Palhares tries to land one of his own. Shot from Palhares and he sprawls out and their back to the feet. Big right from Hendo. Jab from Palhares. Palhares needs to go for broke. Big right from Hendo and Palhares now gets a leg, but Hendo slips out again. Jab from Palhares he doesnt seem desperate enough. Palhares shoots and Hendo sprawls out once again. BIG right from Hendo and now he lands two more BOMBs while Palhares is on the ground. Thats the bell. Hendo had to have won this 30-27, he sprawled and brawled the whole fight to perfection and comes out with a win.
Final result: Dan Henderson defeats Rousimar Palhares via Unanimous Decision
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Nate Marquardt vs. Martin Kampmann (185-pound limit)
Round one: Jab from Nate. Both go for a kick and hit each others knee. Nice right hook from Kampmann. Nate with a big kick to the head, Nate with a short elbow to the head and then a big knee from Nate. Martin is hurt!!! Nate is landing combo's all over 5 unanswered shots!!! Kampmann falls to the ground and Nate landing HUGE blows. Thats it its all over!! Nate DESTROYS Kampmann. That my friends is a complete ass whooping if there ever was one. WOW. Nate is a monster.
Round two:
Round three:
Final result: Nate Marquardt defeats Martin Kampmann via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
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Matt Brown vs. Dong Hyun "Stun Gun" Kim (170-pound limit)
Round one: Leg kick from Brown. Nice left from Kim now Brown goes for a clinch and Kim takes him to the ground. Brown scrambles but gives his back to Kim and Kim gets the hooks. Brown is out and back to his feet, but Kim has his back again and locks in a rear naked but Brown slips out. Brown escapes once again but Kim AGAIN jumps onto his back right away. Brown on his feet now bending over and Kim is slipping off. Now Brown gets Kim to the ground and Brown is on top. Knee to the body from Brown. Head kick from Brown and another big left kick that lands flush on Kim. Brown misses a HUGE spinning back fist. Kim now going for a take down but Brown stifles his attempt and now Brown lands a knee from the clinch and their locked up against the fence. Kim goes for a judo throw and Brown winds up on top and now Brown is sinking in a choke, but Kim can slip out. Brown lets it go and spins but now Kim has his back again and hes looking for hooks. Thats the bell, Brown came on strong late in the round but id give that one 10-9 to Kim b/c he was constantly looking for submissions.
Round two: Leg kick from Brown and now a head kick. Nice right from Brown, and Brown with a left to the body. Leg kick from Brown and a head kick. Jumping knee from Kim but he slips and falls to the ground. Brown with a knee to the body and Kim looks hurt. Kim shoots for a take down but Brown sprawls out briefly. Brown now in a dominate position. Back to the feet. Now their clinched against the fence. Brown with some punishing knees to the body. Brown takes him down and now is in Kims full guard. Kim with a high guard looking for a triangle, but Brown pops out and now is posturing up. Great upkick from Kim. Spinning back fist from Brown on the top. Now Brown is landing from rights from a standing position. Brown lets Kim up and now Brown gets right back into the clinch and now their up against the fence. The pace slows. Knee to the body from Brown. Kim swings and misses and Brown with a great one two combo that lands flush. Kim now down to the ground. Brown on top looking for an arm triangle. Brown with some big rights to the ribs and thats the bell. Matt Brown absolutely dominated that round. He did serious damage to the body. 10-9 Brown.
Round three: Brown looks in great shape. Kick to the body from Brown. Kim with an uppercut thats a glancing blow. The ref stops it b/c Brown had no mouthpiece. Left hook from Kim. Brown with a leg kick. Followed by another kick. Another kick from Brown. Superman punch but its misses. Kim now dodges a punch and gets a take down. Brown trying to work off his back. Brown slips out and is right back to the feet. Brown now working out of the clinch. Knees to the body from Brown hes landing them at will and using them to his advantage. Knee to the thigh from Brown. Brown now has Kims leg in the clinch and lands 3 unanswered rights to the body. Big left hook from Kim. Now their clinched. Kim gets a take down. Brown with butterfly guard. Kim working shots to the body. Brown avoiding damage keeping full guard. Brown with elbows from the bottom. Nice elbow from Kim, Brown is cut bad over his right eye from the elbow. Brown trying to scramble out from the bottom and Kim trying to hold on looking for a submission. Thats the bell, it could be a close one. Id give it to Brown as he won the most minutes throughout the fight, but Kim could have stole it in the end. Its a toss up, but im going Brown.
Final result: Dong Hyun Kim defeats Matt Brown via Split Decision
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does anyone think rashad has a chance? he’s a wreslter fighting one of the best take down stuffers today. He’s gonna catch a bunch of shots after chuck stuffs him. Not really a fan of either guy, looking forward to Franklin showing Hammill to an early retirement. I hope he hits him so hard he hears a ringing!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 14, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always see on these posts. I am curious about your Hendo-Palhares pick. So who do u have?
by NameNotRequired on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think hendo will win (he needs one) and I hope karo loses again…but karo will be a bore I’m sure!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Aug 14, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll go with Hendo. But don’t be surprised if Palhares pulls off the upset. Look at a Bjj blackbelt like Silva did to Hendo, chocked him out!…but of course, Palhares is a far cry from the Spider, so I’d go with Hendo on this one!
by TheNegation on Aug 17, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit….how did that happen!! Im in shock…Rashad KO’s Chuck!
I was on 5 out of 6 for an accumulator and this was supposed to be the most comfortable fight of the night and that happens..well this IS MMA and that was an UPSET!!
WOW what can I say….
by Ca$z on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rashad has a chance, he seems to have a really good chin and Chuck hasn’t had a knock out in a really long time….fight doesn’t make sense to me, chuck is on his last legs, a loss to Rashad would be bring his stock way down. How do we go from Shogun vs Chuck, to this? Still a great card.
by Robert on Aug 14, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well my mma nerdz- here are my stinky picks and stinky bets
from yours truely! and away we go-
carneiro-ryo chonan = i bet 8 dollers in food stamps on
ryo.
lambert-jmac = i bet 10 disney dollers on j-mac.
brown-stun gun =i bet 5 dingle berrys and a wetnap on stun gun
patt-boetch = i bet half a forty of old english on tim.
nate-martin = i bet a donkykong dildo on marquardt.
batman-thiago=bet a bootle of don perry[bottle only] on thiago.
hendo-palhares = next months welfare check on hendo.
rich-hamill = i bet a fart trapped in a zip lock on ace.
chuck-evans =i bet 3cheese slices and mexicutioners mom-
on chuck liddell
to win me a 2 doller off coupon at the neverland ranch
and an ill puppy
thanks for reading and wish me luck.
by ~stinky~fingers~ on Sep 6, 2008 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beetlejuice, nice fake bets. Library is open today I guess? Free internet.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 6, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on a serious tip-
these r my real bets.
-8k on ryo chonan.
-10k on lambert.
-5k on stun gun.
-5k on boetch.
-10k on nate.
-8k on thiago.
-20k on hendo.
-15k on franklin.
and my bet on chuck above is really my bet.
but i did put 20k on chuck with another book keep.
to win me 11k.
- no parlays this time cause i feel there is no for sure
combos that work out in my favor.
i will be back monday to read what all my fans had to say
so feel free to comment.
by ~stinky~fingers~ on Sep 6, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rashad has about as much chance as Tito. These 2 have the same style and are so close they fought to a draw. It’s going to be Liddell-Ortiz all over again.
by Gord on Aug 15, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with you if it was the same Chuck of Dec 06. It isn’t. He is banged up, had problems with weight and his body is breaking down. Rashad has more heart in his left pinky than Tito does in his whole body. Rashad will win. Love Chuck but it’s a new era of MMA fighter. It passed Hughes by and tonight it will pass The Iceman by.Love the guy, he is one of my favorite fighters of all time.
by thetuf75 on Sep 6, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kevin, I’m a huge Franklin fan (and have respect for Hammill’s accomplishments)so I’m looking for Rich to put a beatdown on him. Mainly so the not-always-applicable MMA math will stop the Bisping nuthuggers from saying Franklin would lose to the Count! And I am going WAY into crazyland and saying Rashad DOES have a chance for a huge upset. Don’t know why, cuz he really isn’t better at anything than Chuck. Maybe b/c it’ll throw a wrench in the works for the UFC’s plan for an easier road to the belt for Chuck. Maybe Rashad, who can take a lot of punishment, will pull something out of his @ss. Just sometimes you have to go with the underdog.
by chefdaddy on Aug 15, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, u really think Franklin is that good to retire Hamil? I’d actually like to see Hamil retire Franklin. Loss # 3 in last 2 yrs from Franklin comin tonight. ;) But, as u and any mma fan knows…You just can never know who is gonna be at the top op their game…
by 8 Limbs on Sep 6, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For real. Liddel by TKo in the 2nd.
by RiverHorror on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever happened to that high head kick he used on sean salmon? oh yeah, that was sean salmon.
by b.w. on Aug 14, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Followed by some cheap shots afterwards, I thought that was some serious bull. The guy was sleeping as he was falling and Rashad follows up by punching him a couple more times. Although if I fought a guy who looked likes Sean Salmon, I’d want to punch him in the face as much as possible to. Anyway here are my picks,
Chuck 2nd TKO (although a highlight KO would be great)
Franklin 1st TKO
Hendo 2nd KO
Kampman 2nd TKO (I’m thinking he gets beat up prior tho)
I also hope Karo loses and makes up some more excuses
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 14, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cogito, I totally agree with those picks. And if they go down like you say we should be able to see the Tavares/Pelligrino fight, that should be a war.
Rashad will get his. This is a taylor made fight for Rashad to get KTFO and get his first taste of defeat. IMO, he has not improved at all since TUF. He is the same exact fighter, with a little better striking. He will get schooled by Chuck and then good night.
by BNF on Aug 14, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t agree more, thats why I really like this card. The potential for quick fights is there and we could see some of the undercard fights which I would be thinking Tavares finishes Pelligrino in the second. Rashad really does not have any skills that make him stand out from all the rest, his wrestling is his best ability here but there is no kick in his takedowns which really means he’s going to get hurt against Liddell. I love Franklin and Hendo and maybe this will build toward a possible fight between the two. I’d actually like it if Franklin fought someone more relative to the LHW division but Hamill does come game to fight at least. The fight I’m most interested in seeing is Kampman and Marquardt, that has fight of the night written on it.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 14, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will be my first LIVE UFC EVENT.
So stoke that I get to see Liddell, Henderson, Franklin, Evans, Karo and Chonan on the same card.
by Wesley on Aug 14, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad way at all to bust your MMA cherry! lol
by chefdaddy on Aug 15, 2008 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
newbie to posting but not so newbie to the forum this place is great and great job to all involved. but i expect a total newbie bash etc…especially for my picks lol.
carneiro sub
mcdonald dec
patt tko
tavares sub (but he’s a punk dont care for him lol)
brown ko (got the hunger i think)
kampman sub
palhares sub
franklin dec ( unless he gases at new weight )
evans sub ( i cant even say that with a straight face lol )
goin with my gut not my heart but really chuck should/prob will destroy evans almost instantly lol just got a bad feeling and somethins goin on in ufc i think its like they want all the “tuf” fighters to really become something i just dont want it to be at the expense of the great fighters but what can ya do.
by dyslexic fan mma on Sep 6, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who won in the main event? hope chuck wins by k.o.
by iceman on Sep 6, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All Week Long I thought What if Rashad knocks Him out All Fing Week I am Devistated i broke my tv via a bud selevt bottle thanks to rashads dumb ass wife thanks ufc
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow..this is what you call a Stacked Card…can’t wait.
by commoner on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They should call this event, “UFC Stacked”…lol!
by TheNegation on Aug 17, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st comment, woo hoo!
Predictions:
Chuck Liddell – UD
Rich Franklin – UD
Yoshiyuki "Zenko" Yoshida – TKO, 2nd Round
Dan Henderson – UD
Martin Kampmann – TKO, 3rd Round
Kurt Pellegrino – UD
Tim Boetsch – TKO, 2nd Round
Matt Brown – UD
Ryo Chonan – Choke, 2nd Round
Jason Lambert – TKO, 2nd Round
Fight of the Night – Martin Kampmann vs Nate
Submission of the Night – Ryo Chonan (by default)
Knockout of the Night – hopefully Yoshiyuki "Zenko" Yoshida cause I hate Karo.
Take it to the bank!
by WB on Aug 14, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I got Chuck winning by TKO
Franklin by Decision
Karo by…………………decision
Kampmann via Split Decision
Pellegrino by Decision
I also got James Lee, Dong Hyun "Stun Gun" Kim, and Jason Lambert all winning.
I am reluctant to pick a winner on Hendo/Palhares. As most of you know, I am a big fan of Hendo. However, Rousimar’s BJJ has me worried sick!!! Everyone says that his BJJ is even sicker than Maia’s. However, the good think for Hendo is that Palhares is still mostly a BJJ guy as opposed to a well rounded MMAist. Hendo should use his wrestling to keep the fight off of the floor and just whale away with that right hand. If Hendo stays standing, he will KO Rousimar with ease. However, if he takes the fight to the floor to prove a point or something, he will be in serious danger. I see this fight ending in one of two ways, Hendo by KO or Palhares by Submission.
As far as bets are concerned, so far I bet on Liddell and I also have a paraly on Liddell and Franklin. I was about to wager on Kampmann straight up yesterday while he was +120. Just checked today and he is now Even. I have really started to like to jump on certain fights as soon as the odds are posted as opposed to waiting until the day of the fight because I have been getting much better odds on particular fights. For example, I got Chuck at -260 and he’s now -280. And the event is still what, 4 weeks away?
by ViolentMike on Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
u got james lee winning?? the guy lost to sakara, do you really think he stands a chance of winning boetsch?
this is an amazin card the 2 fights i will be most interested in is
franklin vs hamill and kampmann vs nate (kampmann is 1 of my fav fighters)
ohh and the hendo fight all the others i see as 1 sided
by ufcaddict on Aug 14, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think anyone fighting Boetsch has a chance!!!
by ViolentMike on Aug 14, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right for most of it except for a couple. Tavares 2nd round sub, Dong Hyun Kim by TKO 1 rd, Jucao by UD, and Toquinho 1rd sub. (I will always pick toquinho against anyone, if you see the intent with which he subs people – it’s like he knows he/his family can’t go back to living the way they did. Better someone else gets a permanent career ending injury than go back to that.)
by NameNotRequired on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you look like a ret*rd when you say that “1st woohoo” BS. You look even worse when your like the 6th post. Grow up and quit acting like a g*ddamn child! by the way your pics are way off!
by BLOodyMEss on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was 3rd post, ya ret*rd.
So what are your pics than BloodyMess? Besides Hendo losing, which I dont agree with.
by WB on Aug 14, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait to see Henderson in the ring again.
by Shadyone33 on Aug 14, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah this will be 3 straight for old Henderson
by BLOodyMEss on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henderson will be upset by the submission machine!
by john on Aug 14, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got a BAD feeling about this fight for Hendo…
by ViolentMike on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
throwing money on Rusimar for sure! I have been waiting for an underdog like him for a while now. aS much as I love Hendo, financially I willbe going with Palhares via submission.
by john on Aug 14, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys serious with Palhares? He comes into the UFC and submitts a guy with 1 foot in the grave and now he is going to beat Hendo, who is coming off 2 loses. I just don’t see it happening.
by BNF on Aug 14, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john you sound silly in THIS! argument. One good sub against Salaverry (who was done as a fighter) and this guy can beat Hendo? Hendo is going to smash Palhares!
by JV on Aug 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Difference between me and you, is that I have actually seen all of this guys fights, which actually makes me qualified to speak on the matter. I dont know how you can even knock the guy when you have only seen him fight once for like 15 seconds.
Hendo is 1 of my favorite fighters and he is the household name against an unknown fighter, so on paper Hendo is the sexy pick. In reality Rusimar will win this fight. Unfortunately because I hate to see Hendo loose.
by john on Aug 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, Hendo won’t lose this one. His Greco-Roman skills are just too much for Palhares’ jitz. Hendo will just pull half-guard and GNP Palhares to death!…Now if Palhares decides to stand and bang, then it’s his funeral because he’s just too small to stand with Hendo and knock him out.
by TheNegation on Aug 17, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing sexy or trendy about picking Hendo to beat a relative unknown.
by ballhawkdawk on Sep 5, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John is such a true Hendo fan that he is betting against him. Maybe when you work for Zuffa ( laughes uncontrollably) you can tell him that.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree there is a chance he might lose. Palhares’ jiu jitsu is pretty sick. Im pulling for Hendo though. He is one of my favorite fighters and have met him twice in California. He seemed pretty cool and down to earth. And if he does lose its not the end of the world. Wandi lost three in a row and he’s still doing ok.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 14, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But only one of those fights was in the UFC. Hendo would be 0-3 in his return to the octagon.
by ViolentMike on Aug 15, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that they slip in the Boetsch fight during the televised portion.
by RiverHorror on Aug 14, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On paper there are a few quick finishes on this card. Should happen (fingers crossed).
by wAyNe on Aug 14, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget Boetsch, he can man handled by Hamill. The undercard fight I want to see most is Kurt Pellegrino vs Thiago Tavares. I’ve never seen a boring Batman fight and Thiago has to be out to prove a point after losing to the Handsome one…
by ViolentMike on Aug 14, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way i am spending $50 to see Liddell Evans as a main event. Ridiculous. In all reality if it wasn’t for TUF we could be seeing Nog defend his belt. With 5 weight divisions there should be a title fight every PPV. This is a weak card other than the Hendo fight. Thats the only one that piques my interest.
by Spider Style on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm everytime i hear or see thiago tavares. i think…mini belfort
by santiago69us on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mini belfort wouldnt get ktfo by matt wiman
by GasManShad on Aug 14, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should call it UFC 88: The Road Back. Seems like a lot of big names that have stumbled in their career of late, with fights designed to build them back up.
by wAyNe on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think thats why theyre calling it ‘breakthrough’ as in breakthrough to the upper echelon.
by medecine balls on Sep 6, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t sgree with you ,ore about that!!~
by just looking on Sep 6, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kampman will lose
Rich will have a tough time
Palhares will lose
by Kory on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Matt Hamill can/will beat Rich and I think Henderson will win. I also think Rashad if he doesn’t get caught in the first couple of minutes will beat Chuck. Kampman will win.
by Mike on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck is a joke…Rashad will win either by decision or Chuckles will get winded by second round and Rashad will send him packing back to where he needs to be..a nice little place called “Retirement” Now granted I hate Rashad too but why does Chuckles deserve a slot in the main event? Furthermore if he wins and gets a title shot, I am DONE with the UFC. I guess all you have to do is win one fight out of 3 and all of a sudden you become a contender…well win one and be Dana’s boyfriend always helps too! The best thing about this card is Jason Lambert. He is going to kill some cats at the new weight class! He is going to be a HUGE 185lber…hope Jason Day has a good dental plan because he will be picking up his teeth off the mat!
by DaGrizzlyBear on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You just called Chuck Lidell a joke, but you like Jason Lambert. LMFAO! Rashad will get KTFO and Chuck will probably get a title shot, thank god, because then I will never have to read another a$$inine post from you, since you will no longer be watching the UFC.
by BNF on Aug 14, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DaGrizzlyBear, you said Chuck is a joke??? HOLY SH*T!!! I could bash your post…… but Im not going too. I can say some things to you…… but Im not going too. BNF already did it LMAO!!! All I can think about is, Chuck must have KO’d all your heros?
by JV on Aug 14, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it will be 2 of 3 or two in a row cuz he beat wandi if that helps you to be able to handle this atrocity. i dont think chuck is more deserving than machida myself, but you cant overlook what chuck has done for the ufc. he held on to the lhw belt longer than rampage or randy did and at one point had 7 straight ko’s. i dont think you can hold it against chuck that he is fighting against rashad either cuz he was supposed to fight rua until both suffered injuries. maybee rashad will win and then dana would have to give the title shot to the winner of machida/silva.
by b.w. on Aug 14, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we had another wrestler exactly like Rashad, that has aready fought Chuck, to base our pridictions on. Oh wait a minute, we do and he (Tito) LOST every time he fought Chuck.
by Gord on Aug 15, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Chuck just lost but ur big man is Lambert buudy u must be a elite xc fan that ’s where ur boys going now have u watched his fights no chin at all
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in a perfect world we would have chuck/shogun and hendo/franklin, but this is still a good fight card. marquardt/kampann was a very nice late addition. on the undercard, i would like to see chonan/carnero 1rst. all these fights i think are interesting imo.
by b.w. on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What about the Tavares/Pelligrino fight? That fight has the potential to be a high paced, back and forth war.
I still like this card as well. Chuck is my favorite, Franklin’s first at 205, Hendo after dropping 2 in a row, rooting agaisn’t Karo, and finally Kapmann/Marquardt, all of this is well worth my 45 bucks!
by BNF on Aug 14, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that fight should be good as well. all the fights seem interesting to me even lambert/day could be an exciting slugfest. you never know until after the show is done.
by b.w. on Aug 14, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no ones picking nate? no way kampmann’s taking this one!
by Jizzo on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They should have called this one “UFC 88 – Confidence Builder”
Chuck Liddell will demolish Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin will demolish Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan will demolish Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson will demolish Rousimar Palhares
Nate Marquardt will demolish Martin Kampmann
by EdenMachine on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
It does seem like the stars are getting fed on this PPV. Rashad for Chuck is the most blatant. Chuck made his bones knocking out great wrestlers. I don’t see how Rashad wins.
by bostonmmajunkie on Aug 14, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone is in for a surprise, come fight night. These fights are all fairly even. There WILL be some wars.
by Gord on Aug 15, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendo is gonna win via tko in all likely-ness. Hes fought better&stronger submission fighters and will win this easy. YOU HEARD IT FIRST HERE and probably all over the place…..
Anyways Chuck Via KO/TKO Round 1
Franklin via KO//TKO round 2
Not sure on the karo fight i really wish these 2 were not fighting
Nate Marquardt is gonna win via tko round 1
by Khaos_Warrior on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great card but im not ordering, if u guys want i’ll put up the free ufc link again..
by coolguy on Aug 14, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Rashad has a chance, and even though I am not really a fan of his, I will be rooting for him because it will piss off Dana and the UFC if he wins and Forrest will not be able to keep running from Machida because he will have no choice but to fight him if Machida gets past Silva. As far as I am concerned He deserves the shot whether or not you think he is boring or not or whether he finishes a fight. Bottom line is he wins and it is down to his opponent to stop that. I do not think that it is coincidence that Dana and the UFC have put two non english speaking fighters, who potentialy could both be champions against each other. I like Chuck, but I am just pissed at the way things are arranged around who will make the most money or what the majority of the fans will want. All fighters should have a fair and equal shot.
by Ade on Aug 14, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamill v Franklin to me seems like a very lopsided fight.I can’t see Hamill being anywhere near ready to fight Rich, Dana must have changed his mind on Hamill’s marketability or something. I mean the guy is 4-1 and has to fight the former champion who has only lost 2 fights since 2003 to a true world class champion in Anderson Silva!
Hope he proves me wrong and brings a good fight but I can’t see it.
by robw on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you guys have a lot of time on your hands. just enjoy the fuckin fights and be grateful this sport is where its at. its the fastest growing sport and 5 more years from now it will be the biggest and most watched sport. its fun to watch these guys bang it out. your gettin to much into politics of the shit. theres nothing we can do about who fights who, what the main event is going to be, whos next for the title shot. who gives a fuck. just watch it and enjoy the fights.
by ullok on Aug 14, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and one more thing. i see some of you guys on here talkin shit about some fighters AS IF you think you could actually take one of these guys. any of these dudes would put you on your back and break your fuckin face. so stop talkin shit about people you wouldn;t have a chance against. chuck,rashad,hendo,franklin, etc. these dudes would rock your fuckin world.
by ullok on Aug 14, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ullok. you are my hero. please keep coming to this site!.
by b.w. on Aug 15, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh. Well actually I’m pretty sure we have our 1st amendment right, and can say whatever we want. It’s not like when we say, hmm, Patriots linebacker Junior Seau is slow, over-the-hill and should retire. Its not like we think we can do any better, but we have the right to express our opinions.
Rashad via decision
by Brandon on Sep 6, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ullok where will MMA be the biggest and most watched sport? be real..
by RoB on Aug 14, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I seem to be the only one picking Matt Hammill. I know Rich has great takedown defence, but he’s never fought a wrestler like Matt Hammill. I think Hammill is big enough and strong enough to take Franklin down, hold him down, avoid submissions and do some damage from inside the guard. I think Hammill does just enough to earn a decision.
by DB on Aug 14, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like hamill as well, i was just waiting for someone else to say it 1rst. that hamill boy…him strong like bull.
by b.w. on Aug 15, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamill can do it! then you will see that Bisping didn’t fight bums. i hate Evans and want him to get ko’d but if he wins i’ll be pointing out to the people who say Bisping fights bums.
by tony on Aug 14, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First off im sick to death of people on here talking shit about one of the greatest mma fighters of all time (chuck liddell) The guy dominated the division for years got beat twice and all of a sudden he was to retire! only to return and defeat one of the most dangerous fighters in the world (wandi)in style, maybe the greatest ufc fight to date Was the same not said of randy by some of you when chuck knocked him out twice?? Look what happened there!!!!!
Further you cry on about liddell not deserving a title shot?? Rampage won 1 fight against a guy that shouldnt be a way to the title in The beastman Eastman, nobody slated that!! Liddell deserves a title shot for more than one reason, the key one being he dominated this division for years, longer than any other figher and against the best, and wiped the floor with them all, he never ducks a fight, and infact is one of few fighters who will accept fights against guys that have beat him, and able to turn the tables and beat them (rampage excluded). I agree machida may deserve a title shot, however that doesnt mean liddell doesnt!!
by mo on Aug 14, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell yea, thats one of the best posts ever!!!! Ive never been able to understand all the hate Chuck gets?
by JV on Aug 14, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree 100% its not Chuck’s fault he has to face Rashad….I mean the dude was clearly going to fight Shogun…he aint looking for stepping stones thats for sure. He WANTED to fight Rampage after Rampage already TKO and KO’d him..Chuck’s got one more run left I think. Give him 3 or 4 more fights and he will retire anyway.
by Chadx23 on Aug 14, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“he never ducks a fight, and infact is one of few fighters who will accept fights against guys that have beat him”
Few fighters??? Every real fighter wants to avenge their losses. I would say that the fighters that don’t want to avenge a loss are the rare commodity.
by ViolentMike on Aug 15, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, people hating on chuck is lame. all he does is what he’s supposed to do. make highlight reels out of his victims. straight to the point. no ground BS. just bombs to the dome. whats better that that?
by kama kaze on Sep 6, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the F is that my post from August 14 2008 thats what the date sayas
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck wins by death of lay n gay tech of rashad
by Qmonster on Aug 14, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck wins by decapitation of Rashad sweetner Evans
by Qmonster on Aug 14, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im putting a LOT of money on “Stun Gun”, the worlds tallest 170 guy. lol. He will pick Matt Brown apart with his range.
Rich Franklin and Lambert are also really good bets.
Chuck isnt worth playing with those odds, even if chuck nows hes gonna win, dana knows, we know, Rashad’s coaches and trainingpartners all know. Its a No-brainer. As someone else posted earlier. We’ve already seen this fight twice before. Chuck vs Tito 3?
by cmon_chokehim on Aug 15, 2008 5:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the barncat is 6’4. the donger is only 6’1. i do agree that he will put the beatdown on brown though. hey that rhymes.
by b.w. on Sep 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bw: The stun gun is 6’3 and would destroy the barncat (althoughh I like tamden).
by john on Sep 6, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
in case no one has done it yet..
by coolguy on Sep 6, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
12000 votes on sherdawg
Rashad T/KO
7%
Rashad sub
1%
Rashad decision
13%
Chuck T/KO
68%
Chuck Sub
1%
Chuck decision
9%
Draw
1%
Rashad’s quote on UFC website:
"If it’s a popularity contest, he’ll have the fight hands down; too bad his hands can’t vote in and say who should win."
by kama kaze on Sep 6, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought matt Arroyo was going to submitt brown easily but matt showed matt ehhh? Ehh? So I guess he’s got more of a chance than I think he does.
by mattchupichu on Sep 6, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hammil wins Decision
Evans via tko in 3rd
Call me crazy now, but we can call me genius tomorrow.
THETUF75
by thetuf75 on Sep 6, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i bet on all the underdogs ..so call me crazy too. lol
by tuffguy01 on Sep 6, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know everybody I gotta say I just wasn’t that…jazzed about this card. It lacks…you know it lacks …zazz. I like Chuck, but i never got into him like I did with Rush or the spider. I do think Chuck should win this pretty damn easily. But i also thought Jardine was going to fall down after chuck hit him. much like the wandi fight. I really wish nate Diaz was fighting someone else besides this neer character. I know that’s on another upcoming card but still.
by mattchupichu on Sep 6, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish stupid Ryo Chonan would go to middleweight and fight Anderson Silva again. You know Anderson has a weakness for japanese people for some reason. Or maybe it was the pride ring instead of the cage? Any way Anderson has pimped so well they should let him fight whoever he wants. And you know he wasnts to erase THAT loss. His last legitimate one.
by mattchupichu on Sep 6, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Pellegrino, I threw money on you, so let’s see it !
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 6, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
u will be waiting a while for that result. this fight is destined to go to a decision!
by john on Sep 6, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serious huh, I’m just waiting for the result, then I’m headed to my buddies.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 6, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serious huh, I’m just waiting for the result, then I’m headed to my buddies.
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 6, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad for Tim, macdonald and Chonan. I wonder what’s next for jason Lambert? He was dropping down from fighting at heavy weight, then light- heavy weight, now middle weight fighting a guy that almost went 3 rounds a month ago. booo.
by mattchupichu on Sep 6, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good bye Roan and Lambert. I have nothing but respect for you both but it seems like the ufc is not working.
by mattchupichu on Sep 6, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whattime do you go to channelsurfing to downlaod the event? 10?
by john on Sep 6, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok… all im gettin is a black screen there.. how do i get it to work..?
by sinister on Sep 6, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pelligrino wins decision 29-27 twice 29-28 unanimous
by sinister on Sep 6, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Damn rite, I knew Batman would pull it off for me ! Now we just need Maquardt, and LIDDELL !!!!!!!
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 6, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so.. your name goes from lw to lhw.. whos your heavyweight guy?
by sinister on Sep 6, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John you were rite about the fight going the distance !
by Liddell-Marquardt-GSP-Sherk on Sep 6, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Devil went down to Georgia” for Matt Brown’s entrance music. Awesome!
by Can't wait on Sep 6, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
George Grugel is in Matt Brown’s Corner… so for sure the “Stun Gun” will win….for damn sure!
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this may be a fight of the year candidate depending on which Rashad shows up. If he is hungry, punching and weaving it could be interesting.
Also, Hamill has a good chance here, would not count him out.
by Brawler on Sep 6, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my cable provider (Rogers in Toronto Canada) is not answering i have been on hold waiting for the pay per view since 9:10 pm .. this sux!
by bDavid on Sep 6, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my cable provider is down due to hurr. gustav!!!! pisses me off no internet no ppv! and if i ordered it on this mobile int. card it would disconnect every 4 minutes! we are still under curfew and theres nothing to do…im going nuts!!!!
by tuffguy01 on Sep 6, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
War Matt Brown!!!!!!!! Stungun needs to work on his cardio, Great fight overall though, Nice to see the animal in Brown, Kim Overrated Mabey? To Bad John.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait WTF???? Matt Brown won that fight. What a BS Call.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kim beat Matt Brown… that was fuckin’ robbery!!… even if I hate Jorge Grugel… Matt Brown did not deserve that corrupt decision… pure corruption!
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ont Agree If any thing it should have been a draw stun gun 10 -9 rnd 1 Matt brown 10-8 rnd 2 stun gun 10-9 rnd 3 Matt didn’t win by any means.
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact!!!!!! That was the worse call ever.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Matt got the second round but that’s it, points for sub attempts don’t score with you guy’s?
by Ro-J on Sep 7, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn it was robbed from matt
never leave it to the judges
by kablam on Sep 6, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pure corruption, Matt Brown had a decision stolen… that was insane…
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That is one fight I do not have to watch again, Matt Brown won the 1st 2 rnds, hands down…. I feel really bad for that, someone got paid off… and I’m never one to say a fight was fixed… this is the 1st time I feel that way.
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it just me or is gurgel not as good as the people in his camp?
by tuffguy01 on Sep 6, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grugel might not win, but He puts on exiting fights, I don’t mind seeing his fights, He fights dumb and not always in his Expertise (ground) But still fun to watch.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he def. gives 100% in all his fights and i agree he fights stupid but there is def. some shocking talent coming from his way
by tuffguy01 on Sep 6, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s better as a coach, and Great to watch in his Losing fights hah.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Marquardt really impressed me, wasn’t expecting him to be that ruthless.
by Macho Bullshit on Sep 6, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that Kick that started it Looked Beautiful. Great win.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called it, only I thought that it was kampman that was going to execute it.
by Ro-J on Sep 7, 2008 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets Hope Hendo fights smart, and Getts this win!!!!
War Hendo!!!!!!!!!!
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta’ go with Dan Henderson over Palhares’ not because I think Henderson is necessarily better, but Hendo must win… if Hendo gets into the middle of the 2nd, that’s where he’s gassed out lately… I’m worried it’ll happen again.
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder whats next for hendo if he looses
by tuffguy01 on Sep 6, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are 1/2 my posts going into cyberspace?
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I tried to tell you guys about Nate!!! Kampmann had nothing for Nate! Kampmann’s frame is better for 170.
by JV on Sep 6, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John…… I don’t see TAKEDOWNS AT WILL…………..
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John, you should have not only Rooted for your boy Hendo, Bet Bet on him also, To bad, You lost with Him, and Should have lost with stungun as well, That Call was BS, Brown got Robbed, you we all Know it.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dangerous Dan is the man, John, you should have not only been rooting for your boy Hendo, but you should have Bet on him instead, and you got Lucky with that BS StunGun Decision. Matt Brown was Robbed!!!!!!
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate has really always been an animal. In Pancrase he was the man to fear back a few years. And his last fight about pulled out the pile driver with fire in his eyes. The sad thing is, his road always leads to Anderson. Ugh. I wonder if he can cut to WW. Heh.
by 8 Limbs on Sep 6, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Contrary to the Rich Franklin situation, who clearly can’t beat Silva, I do think a Silva-Marquardt rematch would be interesting.
by ARodOfIron on Sep 6, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendo’s conditioning is not what it once was, but his experience and game plan was good enough to take on Palhares… I’m glad for Hendo’ he earned and deserves a win.
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Palhares is so one-dimensional that it’s painful to watch.
by KS on Sep 6, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For sure. Basically every strike was a faint to try to set up the shot, but even those didn’t come untill he realized the shot from a mile away with no setup wasn’t gonna work. I couldn’t help but laugh once he started to just lay on the ground hoping hendo would go after him. Pathetic.
by Joe Smith on Sep 7, 2008 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john was saying “Hendo would be taken down at will” Again like I was saying, Im not buying the Palhares hype! Palhares is definitely a tough dude. But maybe to soon for Hendo?
by JV on Sep 6, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i mentioned the “Takedown at will” thing also hah, Even though he did have ONE nice slam lol. War Hendo!!!!!!
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi hater! Ha ha ha! I couldn’t resist.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!!! I just cant picture those words in a mans voice!
by JV on Sep 6, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats that shit from? I hear that saying alot, a song or movie?
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chase its john’s words “hi hater” is what he says when he gets into cyber fights with kevin and others.
by JV on Sep 7, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohh, well i see it all the time on other things also, it might be in a song, Im not sure. soubds like it sould be rap, and I hate that crap.
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chase, I was in the gym earlier this week and heard some song with with “hi hater” on it (it was used about 50 times in the song). It was definitely some rap garbage.
by chefdaddy on Sep 7, 2008 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and John is such a big fan of Hendo he bet against him. Nice display of loyalty.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 6, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know hah, He complains about how i like Kos, Who is mainly one Dementional, Well Palhares Looked the same But he’s 1 dementional Jits.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, jmac gets “Submission of the Night”.. cant see the last two fights ending with a tap
by sinister on Sep 6, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and Nate probably “Ko of the Night” unless we see a vintage iced knockout
by sinister on Sep 6, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, nevermind, we go an iced knockout, just not from the Iceman.. never EVER saw that coming.
by sinister on Sep 7, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Matt Hammil can hear his Enternce Music?
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Franklin is incredible, but I see Matt Hammill winning this one… I didn’t… but I would bet on it!
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Tap Out Gear and sponsership is awesome, but those guys are gay!
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet u could have Hammil come out to it’s raining men and he would never know the difference.
by Wanderlei Fan on Sep 6, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That cut is in a bad spot on rich..bad
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF? Hammill is deaf…..NOT RETARDED… shoot a few takedowns’ dummy…. Go Rich!
by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This might only be for round 1, But why isn’t an Olympic Level Wrestler like Hammil Using it More? It makes Me Mad, Mostly Becuase I love wrestling, But Rich is My favorite fighter at 185, and Is close second in 205 for me, so i’m glad, Just confused about not using world class wrestling more.
by Chase on Sep 6, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is going on right now with the franklin hamill fight?
i was unable to float this PPV
by Brawler on Sep 7, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally Franklin went to a great camp Matt Hume… he should stay out there.
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW!!! Hamill looked like sh*t! He wasnt really going for takedowns which was his only hope. Franklin is the man!
by JV on Sep 7, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a great fight…. the 3rd rnd all of a sudden a kick to the gut b
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont like hamil’s striking at all, i’m surprised franlin didnt take him out with body shots in the first round, he was wide open!!!
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Sep 7, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did anyone happen to see how hot hamills fiancee is? lol
by tuffguy01 on Sep 7, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i got rashad to win by decision!!! if he doesnt gas again.
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF is Evans doing twisting his nipples and dancing to Chuck’s enterance music for? I really hope he loses know.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding, that was really, really, disturbing.
by Scuds on Sep 7, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, his running away is annoying, and leg kicks to the body can’t hurt Liddels Gut.
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy Rashad Evans KO Chuck Liddell and remains undefeated… WOW’ Chuck looked like he’s definitely getting older, producing more estrogen and less testosterone… his gut is getting bigger and he’s got more cellulite and getting puffy… I felt bad Chucked got KO’d… but he’s had his day of KO’ing everybody… so I’ll try to feel happy for
Rashad “Nipple Twister” Evans
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans might have borrowed the pre-fight-self nipple twisting from GSP. lol
by chefdaddy on Sep 7, 2008 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea why him and GSP twist their nipples before a fight. Must be a Jackson camp thing.
by Gord on Sep 7, 2008 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And would someone tell Evans that this isn’t a marathon? I’ve seen football games with less running than that.
by Scuds on Sep 7, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you’d be the genius who would stand still in front of Chuck? If sticking and moving isn’t it, what brilliant game plan would you come up with?
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad is just too tenative to win this fight… reminds me of Andre Arlovski at this point… Liddell looks like his body is not producing as much testosterone and more estrogen, just not as ripped and puffy
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he looked like Arlovski in the 2nd, thats for sure.
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF? Wow. I guess Rashad showed me.
by the_mexicutioner on Sep 7, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans said it best in the prefight intro.. “Tonight I’m hosting Chuck Liddell’s retirement party. He’s gonna take off his gloves and walk his old ass out of the octagon…” Yup, pretty much.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he may have been right, but what a cocky little bastard
by Chadx23 on Sep 8, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG LIDELL IS DEAD!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great hit.
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN!!! i knew he was gonna get ko!!!
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Moth%@& SH*TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!! Weak a$$$$$$$$ Rashad!!!!! Im sick to my stomach! Im ready to f*cken fight someone right now! I think Chuck got careless trying to make it a fight! F*CK Rashad I’ll give him no props! I dont give a f*ck what anybody says!
by JV on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harsh JV hah, you need to give some props, that hit was Brutal, The Tuff Winners are turning out to be great in the UFC, I want Lyoto VS. Rashad, i want one of them to lose, And I Know it will Be Rashad.
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody, Lets hope for Lyoto VS. Rashad!!!!!!!!
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say give rashad to wandy, my boy will take care of business as always. now that rashad beat chuck, a win over him will be sufficient for the axe murderer to get a title shot.
by linx on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would beating Rashad = title shot? It would be a rock-paper-scissors scenario (Wand beats Shad beats Chuck beats Wand), so it wouldn’t make Wandy a clear #1 contender, although it would be great to see Wandy in a 5-rounder again. Unless Wandy fights and beats Lyoto then beats Sugar, which would make him the number 1 contender w/o a doubt.
by Pat on Sep 7, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree linx. Wandy would push the pace with Rashad. A pace that Rashad has never seen before and Wandy would F%ck his a$$ up before he would be able to get a lucky counter like that. The only person I really see giving Wandy any problems in this division is Machida.
by jimmy_dean on Sep 7, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
F*CK NO!!!! F*CK Rashad!!!!!!!! I give that B*TCH no props! Im telling you, Chuck got careless trying to make it a fight and got caught! I would say f*ck Rashad’s whole camp but Nate is there!
by JV on Sep 7, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on JV, everytime chuck looses yall say he got careless or didn’t take it seriously, and when he wins yall demand title shots… It’s chuck’s responsibility as a fighter to not get careless inside the cage, that also says a lot about a fighter’s potential.
by linx on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He better take it serious, or he’s going to be the first UFC fatality,
by Rickrude on Sep 7, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LAWLZ @ JV
Chuck was so sick when he was in his prime, but now he’s clearly past it. 2 years ago, Chuck would have connected first, but he’s lost a fraction of a second in his hand speed, and that’s all it takes to lose a fight. 1-3 in his last 4 fights now.
by Pat on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll agree with you linx! Only cause Ive been on the other side plenty of times.
by JV on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude Chuck got hit with a fucking sledgehammer! you gotta give Rashad props on that. I mean he was out for 3+ after that shot. You RARELY see that. That was a big time KO. WOW
by Anthony on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wandi has been second in my fav book in my fight book for a long time just jumped ship . wandi rashad for a shot at the title WAR FUCKING WANDI- yes stil pissed at liddell
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one cares about whether or not you give Rashad props dude. I think when you wake up tomorrow your panties will untie and you’ll be able to see the reality of the situation. Chuck is officially past his prime.
It’s his job to win, not make it a fight. Someone with Chuck’s experience should know that. Hopefully Chuck will now take his rightful place as LHW gatekeeper.
by dave on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your lucky Mania isnt posting my response!
by JV on Sep 7, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gate keeper what does that make wandi, fag yea he got ko’d who hasn’t wandi has rampage has forrest has gsp has hughes has quit being a prick liddell didnt have a good game plan he chased him when he should have layed back and waited is chuck a top ten anymore no and that fing pains me to say . But the ufc would not be where it is today with out Chuck liddell!!!! God Damnit FUUFuffuufufufufufckckkckckckckckckckckc gogogoogdddd Dammn it god i want to hit u right now
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont worry Chuck will give him props…..when he figures out Where he is, Who he is, and What the fck happened.
by Rickrude on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i broke my tv with a beer bottle im Pissed i am heart broke stomach sick and ready to fight my best friend going to down this beer and hope my wife dosent throw me out and go to bed
by DBG on Sep 7, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JV- Do I hear the sounds of a man who just lost a massive amount of dough?
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you not give Rashad props. That knock out was sick. Knock outs aren’t cheap or lucky they are a part of the sport.
Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com
by Rob Dib on Sep 7, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rashad – congratulations, now i’m gonna go cry myself to sleep…(wimpering)
by kama kaze on Sep 7, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
griffins next for the rashad ko, probably not but i’d hope so.
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Sep 7, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BS, he won;t get no Title shot, Rashad VS, Lyoto should happen. then the winner gets a shot. I feel Bad for the Iceman.
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree this would be good maybe rashad could finally stop lyotos streak and his ko was impressive, not really a fan of his though
by markg on Sep 7, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else think Rashad moistening and playing with his nipples right before the fight began had anything to do with it? GSP did it at 87… something strange is going on over at Jackson’s.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah forreal, some secret addinalin thing or somthing hah.
by Chase on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously- I saw a gif of GSP doing at 87 and I still went back to my DVR to make sure I wasn’t crazy. Now Rashad… maybe Huerta didn’t get the memo during his training camp and that’s why he lost.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha. I think Huerta was twisting Laura Prepon’s nipples instead.
by Pat on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread is going to be filled with excuses for chuck LOL, I’m glad he lost it though. Now we can have a true title contender in Machida. Sorry chuck fans, he got knocked da f.u.c.k out! I’m out, it’s too late here to keep writing, see yall on monday when I’ll be making fun some more LOL.
by linx on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I’m still in shock. DAAAAMMMNNNNN!!! He got knocked the f**k out!!!!
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn Chuck got KNOCKED THE FCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL HE DONT SCARE NOBODY ANY MORE!!!! NIGHTY NIGHT!
by Rickrude on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I love the Iceman, I think it’s time to consider retirement. Losing 3 of your last 4 fights is bad enough. Better not make it worse.
by Nykki on Sep 7, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think they’ll give rashad to wandy. i think evryone would rather see that then the borefest lyoto would put on.
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Machida can cut in front of Evans when he does something like Rashad did. I was just like everyone else before the fight hating on Evans. But, they both are undefeated and Rashad wins with style and that’s what it’s about. Evans is just as good as Machida and more interesting = Evans v Forrest 10x more interesting then Machida. UFC is in the business of interesting fights and fighters and Rashad has what Lyoto doesn’t.
by tc on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just rewound it, Dana’s mouth is wide open and he keeps looking back and forth between Rashad and back to the monitor he’s watching. He can’t believe it either. I LOVE THIS GAME!!! er sport.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but i do give MAJOR props too rashad. i can see alot of lhw contenders steering clear of rashad.
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about that. A well timed shot is a well timed shot. That could anyone on any given night. Does he need to retool? Definately. His jaw does seem to be alot more fragile than it used to be.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his reflexs are’nt what they used to be either. chucks style of fighting doesnt bode well with aging, he relies on his reflexes alot and sugar was too quick. a ko like that can ruin a guy, look at cro-cop. chuck should retire and go stright into the hof.
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s just say he was left lying limp for a good amount of time. When he woke up, he probably didn’t know what went down.
by ARodOfIron on Sep 7, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol thats awesome stupid gustav has my cable provider down and now im pissed
by tuffguy01 on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of the utmost kind. it was as bad as gonzaga/cro-cop the way chuck hit the ground. i dont think there is a human being alive that could have took that punch
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely a highlight reel KO – Chuck went limp immediately and was OUT for awhile. No doubt about it, highlight reel knockout. I still can’t believe it.
by TheProfessor on Sep 7, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida should face griffin next and rashad facing the winner of that bout
by rydinlow on Sep 7, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree. there is really no excuse now not to make forrest/machida.
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
xcept that machida is BORING… who the hell wants to see a fight where the opponents do their best to run away from each other???
by talkman on Sep 7, 2008 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only the uneducated fan thinks Machida runs. Watch his fight with Tito. Who was bleeding? You don’t get cut from a guy who is running away.
by Sean_M on Sep 7, 2008 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with the first but how does Rashad earn the winner? He needs to beat someone with an actual winning streak. Give him Thiago when he gets healthy
by Anthony on Sep 7, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Rashad killed chuck, he looked like he was dead, thank God he woke up, it looked like there was a sniper in ATL.
by Rickrude on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ya chuck needs to retire for sure, thanks for the great years man! Please Joe Silva, please match Rashad Evans with rampage jackson, I want to see rashad get his ass handed to him!
Cheers,
Gnight All!
by Bobo on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m no fan of Rashad, but I’m so glad Chuck got exposed one more time. Time to move our attention toward the new breed of MMA fighters.
by ARodOfIron on Sep 7, 2008 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck came out exactly like he did against Jardine. He was showing his frustration, and seemed tentative to me. He did not have the same focus when he fought Vandy. I guess he needs a deep rooted reason, or maybe a grudge to win a fight. That’s when it’s time to start thinking about getting out (IMO).
You gotta give Rashad props, but I still can’t stand his antics. So, I guess I have another great foe to root against, that woks for me.
By the way, Franklin looked great, and proved that he really is a great fighter, which in turn, also proves once again how amazing A.Silva is.
by Jrandolph on Sep 7, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bye chuck looks like even hand picked grappling match ups arent good for you now.
thanks for the memories. i’ll miss you.
by DirtyML on Sep 7, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Chuck Liddell, he’s my all time favorite fighter, but, as much as I hate to say that, I think his time has come. He should retire now, I’m afraid he won’t be able to compete against top competition in this division anymore. I’m sure noone will ever look down on what he has done for this sport.
by Cristiano from Brazil on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck’s body is looking a bit old, his prime days are behind him, he’s still got some mileage on him for some great fights, but he’s a tad slower, a tad puffier, a tad more or less in all the wrong ways.
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was the greatest knockout in the history of the ufc. WOW. I mean I don’t want to say I told you Rashad Evans was going to defeat Chuck, but you know what. I did. All of you hated on me that I said that Rashad was going to win. So ha.
But wow, that kockout sent chills up my spine. I thought Chuck was dead.
Also, Franklin body kick stoppage was bull. That fight sucked, and Hamill sucks in big game performances.
Mike patt looked terrible. But hey he fought 3 weeks ago as well.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
‘I thought Chuck was dead’- seriously! I jumped up and yelled so loud my neighbors would have been justified in calling cops. No really- I woke their baby up. There is a voodoo doll being made in my likeness as we speak.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Chuck hit the mat? It was lifeless. It was honestly very scary. But the greatest KO I have ever witnessed.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 7, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got it a close 2nd to gonzaga/cro-cop, but both were unbelievable.
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah man- face down and twisted, totally limp. Scary yes, especially when it took so long for him to get back up. But what a beautiful shot.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called it also (seriously, look at my previous posts).
I think we can both say neither of us predicted THAT to happen.
by Brandon on Sep 7, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck has abused his body for too long.
Too much partying while not taking care of himself.
The YoYo effect on his body was obvious as he looked like a middleweight fighter in a flabby skin sack.
He’s always been able to get by with his KO power.
Just get into reasonable shape, and wait for a mistake by his opponent…
Looks like Evans took a “Page” out of Rampage’s book and turned the tables on Chuck. Just wait for a mistake. Chuck threw a right uppercut (as he had a few times previous) without keeping his left up. Rashad obviously picked up on it and threw the perfect counterpunch.
Rashad vs Forrest… TUF 1 vs TUF 2… it’s a natural.
by talkman on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck always leaves his left hand down or leading. deng, he left that whole side wide open for salmon headkick part 2 or overhand right. Rashad was saving that 1. perfect connect. it was fugly.
by kama kaze on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad looked amazing. I thought he even won rd 1 with a few nice kicks, some left hooks, and a few right hands. I don’t wanna say I told you so, but I said Rashad’s athleticism would be the X factor in this fight and it proved to be the difference tonight.
by RT on Sep 7, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like Rashad’s tentative style at times, but that guy has improved with each fight and he knows how to win. I can’t imagine him and Machida fighting lol… 20-30 punches thrown between them per round… it would be a boring fight!
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thorazine- I don’t know that there is another way to fight Chuck though. I’ll definately cosign your opinion about a Evans vs Machida fight. Where’s the petition against that one?
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did u notice how quiet the audience was?? Man I bet they thought Rashad Killed Chuck!! Hell’ that KO was so devastating I felt creeped out!
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! All you heard was Evans’ wife screaming and nothing else. That place was shut down. I guess when the UFC comes to town for the first time and you are watching an mma legend like Chuck- you’re paying for the classic Chuck performance. Anndddd…. I’m sure ALOT of people lost ALOT of money.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There have been a few recently that have done that for me including this one. I thought Jardine was dead when Wandy knocked him out (no joke), that Markham vs. Farber knockout was spectacular! I really have to sit and think about how to rank them. They definately need to make a best knockouts of 2008 special this year.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job by MacDonald. Maybe Chuck took Evans lightly. Rashad wasn’t scared of him and did what he needed to do. He’s come a long way and good for him. Thank God I gave up betting on the fights for a while. I would be in the dog for this one.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Although I said Chuck is past his prime, I don’t think he needs to hang it up for good. He’s not champion material anymore but he’s still one of the top fighters in the division. I think he just needs some time off, then come back with a different style, maybe go to a different camp. I think he needs to start using his wrestling offensively. Maybe train with Lesnar and Sherk over in Minny. Chuck would be a solid ground-and-pound guy.
by Pat on Sep 7, 2008 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hackleman is his biggest weakness. He is so loyal to that camp yet they are still so one dimensional. What works for a long time doesn’t always work forever.
by jimmy_dean on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point! its broke and definetly needs fixing.
by b.w. on Sep 7, 2008 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now they should have Evans vs Machida for title elimination. Rashad is apparently fine so it could even go down on UFC 90. What do you guys think about it? That’s the only fair way to determine a title contender IMO. Also, Marquardt looked incredible. I don’t even remember Kampmann touching him
by Cristiano from Brazil on Sep 7, 2008 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CHUCK GOT ROCKET WITH A BAZUKA. DAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMN MAN WAS LIKE IT A BASEBALL BAT TKO
by HALEXTITO on Sep 7, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck’s body is just getting older and producing more estrogen than testosterone… hench “OLD WHITE PUFFY GUY”… not everyone can be a Randy Couture.
Did u see Chuck’s old highlights?? Man’ he was naturally ripped… his body is changing and at 38 that happens… if u notice Hendo was sucking wind big time in that interview after the fight… same thing with him… 38 yrs old.
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I noticed Hendo gassing. Matt Hughes is in the same boat. Tough to see these guys like that. And you’re right, it makes what Randy’s doing at 45 that much more incredible.
I give Hendo even less of a chance against Anderson than he had the first fight. IMO he needs to move up to 205 where he saves 20 lbs. of cutting, and where he can make some big money fights happen before he hangs em up.
by Pat on Sep 7, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KO OF THE CENTURY!!!!
WTF rashad do with chuck :S
AMAZING, UNBELIAVABLE
by emiliano on Sep 7, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DUDES machida??? are you kidding me? that guy is a bum… RASHAD VS RAMPAGE JACKSON, winner, Light heavyweight championship fight against Forrest!
by Bobo on Sep 7, 2008 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Machida is a bum? Forrest Griffin said himself that Machida is the last person he wanted to fight. Machida is anything but a bum. Do you know anything about MMA?
by jimmy_dean on Sep 7, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact, Wanderlei Silva turned down a fight against Machida because he didn’t have enough time to prepare and so did Brandon Vera. Anything but a bum dude.
by jimmy_dean on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously guys, what do you think Chuck’s next move could be, being that he is one of the UFC’s main money draws?
If he gets another good (Jardine upward) fighter, he risks being taken apart badly, and it’s no good for the UFC to have Chuck as a main event and losing all the time.
If he starts getting fed tomato cans, he loses all the glitz of his stardom, ESPECIALLY when placed on the main event, which you know is bound to happen. Fans and non-fans alike can see right through that crap.
Seems like his main asset is actually his main curse…
by ARodOfIron on Sep 7, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOWWWWWWW is all i got to say i won a 10 buck bet with my friend …. we were at a packed winghouse and when rashad landed the overhand right the place blew up , wow it was one sick punch , liddell faceplanted like a stiff board it was the perfect end to the card…. rashad fought a counter puncher very well and deserved to win he looked good , you rush chuck you get ko’d he made chuck pissed and he got messy and got slugged . period . good job rashad i seem to be the only one that thinks you could win since about 18 percent thought so at the time of the fight .
by monoxide on Sep 7, 2008 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am now a Rashad believer. I love Chuck but I hope he retires now. I think he has lost some speed and is still one of the greatest. Rashad was so fast when they were close and swinging. Rashad baited him in by running and dancing like an a$$ but he knocked Chuck the fark out.
by Brian "Bisping-Hater" on Sep 7, 2008 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is it that when a black fighter moves around and uses strategy, or celebrates he’s an a$$?
by Rickrude on Sep 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt i read something here about chuck saying he wouldnt mind moving up to fight randy??
by tuffguy01 on Sep 7, 2008 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one is interested in Liddell/Couture 18 and Randy isn’t either. He wants Lesnar, Nog and Fedor. After that he’ll retire and let his wife take the ass whoopings.
by DSmith on Sep 7, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that chuck should retire, im a big fan but something tells me that he wont go out on a knockout!!
by jslim on Sep 7, 2008 1:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck’s career is done. Rashad’s knock out looked worse than Rampage’s did. Chuck has been one of the most dominant fighters to ever fight in the sport but so was Matt Hughes. His reign in the LHW division has come to an end and it is about time he brings his legendary career to an end before he starts looking really bad. Chuck is no doubt a UFC hall of famer and in my eyes is an MMA hall of famer but enough is enough. It’s pretty obvious that Wanderlei had the octagon jitters when he fought Chuck because I think even then Chuck’s career was on a downward spiral. There is no doubt in my mind that Chuck would have beaten Rampage, Jardine, or Rashad about four years ago when his career was at it’s peek but he is not fighting very smart since he has gotten older. Rashad beat him at his own game and Rashad didn’t even beat Tito not even a year ago. I think now even Randy would win two out of three against Liddell. You could kind of see the fake ass smile that Dana White had on his face when he shook Rashad’s hand after the fight. Chuck, you have done a lot for the sport and you are one of the main reasons MMA is so popular in the USA today but the time has come, you have got to move on.
by jimmy_dean on Sep 7, 2008 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
champion’s comeback baby!!! except liddel… awww.
i really like the stats.
rogan – “as bas rutten would say… kick to da leeburr” LMAO
pellengrino – MONSTER WIN! major career crossroad of opponent not used to losing. gchyea!
ace ventura – inside legkick to the sack! ewwww. superior striking as expected… not quite elite, but premier. even added some kicks and knees! great comeback.
by kama kaze on Sep 7, 2008 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cmon chuck fans. i love too chuck cause that mofa is a real warrior. but like any fighter father time and some young hungry beast, that is hungry like he used to be, comes along and this is the result. i dont understand all the hate on rashad. that hungry beast came with it. he aint living as good as chuck, and wants some of that cheese that chuck already has. happens to the best of em. ask tyson, ali, holmes, holyfield. father time is the real champ every time…
by 41 blocc on Sep 7, 2008 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i definitely dont think chuck should retire, i think its another case of the old one dimensional fighters, like tito and hughes chuck is just too predictable. if i’m fighting chuck i kknow hes gonna try to knock me out so since hes been exposed already by jackson and jardine and now evans i’m gonna wait back for my opening which he will give me eventually cause i’ll piss him off with my defense running and counters, and knock him out, so he needs to switch up his game plan to throw people off, i think he should do a takedown and ground and pound his next opponent just to switch it up and make other fighters worry about more than his striking. and i’m definitely not saying i want to fight chuck lidell
by itsT.O.baby!!! on Sep 7, 2008 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chucks not a ground n’ pounder, he doesn’t have the raw power and cardio for it in MMA style he used to shoot takedowns and gassed all the time… when he changed his style to standup he was able to preserve his energy and fight more effectively for longer periods of time.
Chuck is just too old to be a Champion again, it’s showing in his body… it’s not producing like it use to up to his mid 30’s.
by THORAZINE on Sep 7, 2008 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you know how to dance and move the right way, its the most effective way to fight. aint no answer for some sh;t you cant see. you can be the toughest mofa in the world, but if you cant land on a moving target and that movement zeros in on your ass. good night, sleep tight.
by 41 blocc on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What we just saw was youth concering old age. Chuck is simply slower and can not match the speed of a younger guy. A one dimensional fighter against a younger faster and more atheletic fighter, who should have no business knocking out Chuck Liddell. Anyone that says that was a lucky punch is an ASS. Rashad isn’t that good, and I can name at least 5 guys that he would lose to under 32 years old. I’m sorry Chuck you just lost to a wrestler that in the past you easily took care of, please hang it up and let the younger guys take this sport forward.
by MXN on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nipple twisting?
First time I saw that was with GSP vs. Fitch. Now Rashad vs. Liddell.
Is this some kinda Greg Jackson Submission Fight Club ritual or what?
by TabascoSAUCE on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is everyone spacing between their sentences now? Has
Stinky fingers officially taken over this site now?
by jimmy_dean on Sep 7, 2008 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man. I was dead silent after that KO. I thought Rashad would win a decision, not THAT.
I predicted Rashad but I was rooting for Chuck.
I’ve already broken out the scotch
by Brandon on Sep 7, 2008 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard some guy at the bar talking about how Rashad had to take Chuck down I’m like shit.
Thats what ppl have been trying for years! You can’t take chuck down you just have to out-strike him… Yeah it could end bad but at least you got a legitimate chance doing that.
by Brandon on Sep 7, 2008 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great night for me. Cya chuckie baby. U cant even win against hand picked opponents anymore. Machida gets a title shot baby! Franklin looked very sharp tonite. Would like to see him against some top tier lhws. Dan didnt look very good either looks like time has passed him by too. He looked gassed.
by Harry Triangle on Sep 7, 2008 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SOOOO PISSED I MISSED IT. *anxiously awaiting the animated gif’s and videos on the internet :)
by Mike Smith on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, I loved seeing Chuck knocked out, but I do have to say that Rashad is a fuggin idiot.
This is what, the second time he rushed a fighter that was CLEARLY knocked out to land another punch??? Sean Salmon and now Chuck.
Does Randy Couture do this? No, does Anderson Silva? No. A trained, skilled fighter knows when the fight is over. Rashad is just acting like an amateur jackass
by Squishy Dolphin on Sep 7, 2008 4:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When that much money is on the line and the greatest mma one punch knock artist is on the ground, you don’t take any chances of him getting up. you just hope the ref does his job.
by Paco on Sep 7, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but Rashad did this one before. With Sean Salmon, that was no title fight.
The fact is, Rashad just doesn’t have the gift to use his eyeballs and notice when a human has been knocked unconscious.
by Squishy Dolphin on Sep 8, 2008 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went for Rashad as did with Jardine, but I did see more of a descision win then knockout. I did say that only because Chuck is a better striker than Rashad that doesn’t mean that he will not get caught by Rashad who as we have seen in the past is a pretty good striker. I truly believed that Rashad had the skills to beat Chuck as I said that he is one of the most versatile wrestlers in the divsion. The haters have to show respect now. I am so glad that Dana is going to be pissed.
by Ade on Sep 8, 2008 4:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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