fist pumping or screaming isn’t the same is pointing and laughing. there is a fine line, and brock crossed it. To point and laugh while guys like gsp/fitch or faber/pulver embrace and respect one another not only shows his newness to the sport but his lack of knowledge or respect. I fear for the first guy he ever arm bars, most guys secure it, gently lift their hips, guy taps, I fear brock will rip someones arm off and laugh about it. Kendall grove is another moron who crosses the line!

Quit whining people!

This is entertainment (yes, I know a sport too).

NFL\NBA, they all showboat…it is part of the fun

Lighten up…let the man sell tickets\ppvs by hyping up the crowd, and doing his dumb rodeo dance

I wish they had more of an “entertainment factor” in their production…bigger entrances (ala Pride) and let them hype of fights in their post fight interviews.

No one wants to hear the SAME crap every post fight, “I tried my hardest, I trained really hard, I have a great camp, thank you UFC, blah blah blah”

Brock’s post fight antics will always be there, so get used to it

Really see no problem with it, especially because it’s his first W in the big show, I would be pumped too.

“Who cares?” – Brock Lesnar

The most classless thing was shoving and pushing Herring at the end of each round.

alright guys, going for a nap, still no takers on the ff league so I’ll put that idea to rest. peace, talk to you fools later!

lesnar is as green and inexperienced as kimbo slice is, but at least kimbo has one of the greatest of all time teaching him the ropes in and out of the ring/cage in bas rutten. if there’s anyone who could teach someone to honor and respect the sport it’s rutten. lesnar treats it like a spectical. his win wasn’t even that impressive, any ref other than the terrible miragliotta would’ve stood that fight up numerous times.

I didn’t like him trying to ride Herring at the end. Trash talking is one thing but he’s lucky Herring didn’t sucker punch him after that.

I thought it was hilarious and I am glad he did what he did. Serves him right talking all that smack.
WAR LESNAR!!!!

I loved it hahahahaha laughing at him too :)

Get over it people. This is not that big a deal. Seriously, people are complaining that he grabbed the mic from Rogan. Also, I doubt he does these antics again.

I’m sick of hearing about this already.

The only reason why Brock is catching heat for this is because he was formerly in the WWE and he’s such a big star…otherwise no one would bring it up.

As he stated in the UFC 87 post-fight conference, Herring’s camp was showing alot of disrespect towards him, saying he shouldn’t have to fight Brock, etc. You can catch these comments and the whole post-fight conference over on mma weekly.com

Also, in the pre-fight comments Herring was taking mad smack about Brock, saying he’s fought “bigger, stronger, more accomplished wrestler, etc. etc.”…Brock never disrespected him at all in his comments.

People need to stop crying about this and saying Brock is ruining the integrity of MMA. He was excited that he got the win and did a little showboating…BIG DEAL. Most if not all fighters have some type of post-fight celebration as the guy from Sherdog said.

I’m excited that Brock Lesnar has finally ignited a fire in the UFC’s HW division!

Congrats Brock on your first UFC win…it sure as hell won’t be your last!

I was at the event photographing it. It was entertaining and see nothing wrong with it. I think it was done in good fun and as he mentioned in the post fight press conference he was excited and had every right to be. It’s not for everyone but Lesnar is a talented athlete and an entertainer.

Lesnar is impressive and as long as he doesn’t get submitted we’ll be seeing more victories from him in the UFC.

My view on it… I though Brock showed us.. the MMA Brock. Could I have gone without seeing him do what he did.. yeah.. From my point of view of the fight.. which was my friends coach.. I gaqve Heath mad respect.. for going the distance when he really shouldn’t have.. I think Lesanr.. was so caught up in the momment.. from how Mania..said earlier. Brock = GOD is MinnTown… I didn’tlike what he did.. I liked how fought.. I would now want to see him fight Kongo. He will be 2 or 3 fights top..from a title fight…the Brock that fought at UFC87 would still get tapped by Nog. He is going the right way.. in his approach to MMA.. The anitcs.. That’s with Dana.. maybe Brock will do more of that.. and it may rub people the wrong way.. and he’ll be the villian.. or he can stay level headed.. and not grab the mic out of Joe’s hand..after a fight.

He makes for a very good heel. It will put more butts in seats and having someone to hatefully root against is good for any sport. Two fighters showing respect at the end of the fight is classy and always great to see, but I agree with SHERDOG, sometimes I want to see some bad blood.

I’ve seen way worse in regards to sport celebrations.

Get over it people.

Brock is big for nothing. Not a true fighter. i hope he does that to his next opponent so they could lay his big ass down with an overhand right. i really just wana see him get knocked out! that awesome dudes.

bunch of lesnar haters! at least he didnt wipe blood of his opponent and then lick his hands!

Hate it Hate it Hate it. He has absolutley no respect.Laughing at his Oponent,I would have laughed if in those last 10 seconds Herrings punch would have landed flush and knocked that ignorant ass out. I hope the next guy that beats him laughs at him,actually the best thing would be,The randy Cotoure-Tito Ortiz Move and spank his big dumb ass.

i liked the head bobbing at the end of the 1st round. i hated the ‘bull ridin’ at the end of the 3rd round. i didn’t like the laughing and pointing after the match. and i had no problem at all with the lasso after the fight. overall, i’ll give brock a pass since this is strange territory for him and he was probably so excited. u can tell he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed and i don’t think he means any harm at all. he has no ill will to anyone. he just got overly excited. subtract the bull-riding and the pointing/laughing and i think brock was incredible. if he can become average on submission defense, he can become a monster.

ps: how awesome was the start of that fight? the first huge knockdown punch, and then the crazy s.o.b. goes for a running spear. how sweet would it have been if he connected with that thing?

Better than laughing at a guy, that you can’t finish.Hope Brock gets the Randy Cotoure spanking From some one then I would Laugh.

I’ve come to realize that no matter what, brock isn’t going to win over certain “hardcore fans” who get butthurt seeing someone that they consider to be an entertainer showing up and having success at their precious sport. if he had won without any celebration, people would still complain. so you knwo what, i hope brock keeps doing what he’s doign and when the “hardcore fans” whine like little girls, i’ll just laugh that much more.

i’ve got to agree with tuffguy01 on this one. there has been some WAYYY more “disrespectful” after fight antics happening and no one is saying crap about them. Brock came out, proved EVERYONE wrong, and won a huge fight. its not like he said anything negative about heath herring during the post fight with Rogan. i know its not even worth arguing b/c haters are going to be on Lesnar for his whole MMA career. all i’m saying is give HIM some respect. no one can say he doesn’t deserve, at the very least, as “good fight” compliment.

I don’t hate Lesnar because of it, but I thought it was a little immature and unnecessary. I think any time you directly involve your opponent in your post-fight antics you’re probably crossing the line. Doing a back-flip off the ropes tells me a fighter is excited about his win…Pointing and laughing at a guy seems like he’s just rubbing it in.

Regardless, these debates occur in almost every sport. While I’d like to see NFL players all act like Barry Sanders when they score a touchdown, I know that’s not ever going to happen. Sometimes you just have to take “exciting” and “entertaining” at the expense of “classy.”

-Tony

I don’t really mind the showboating …the only thing that got to me was at the end he pointed at heath and started laughing.. i know there was talk between the two camps before the fight and heath apparently didnt want to fight brock but still, this is brocks 3rd fight EVER! I dont feel he has the right to act like an ass yet. If he earns it then go ahead, but not after his 2nd ever mma win.

This is as bad as Varners dance. He mocked an opponent who just gave his all and took him the distance. The fact that he acted like he was ridding a bull was not nearly as disgraceful as the fact that he pointed at him and laughed in his face. Yeas Tito, Chuck, Anderson, GSP, Fitch and others celebrate, but come on to do it in the manner and the way he did is just complete lack of class.

james irvin does the best job of being disrespectful ..in my opinion

it just goes 2 show the pea size brain he has in that MELON of his!!!! thats the most childish performance ive ever seen in mma!! lets hope thats the end of that nonsense!!!!

I actually think he should ride Big Nog the way Big Nog rode that asian guy, and did the lasso rope thing. In addition Randy Couture spanked Ortiz during their fight, and I would like to see Lesnar spank Couture. I mean How can anyone criticize this guy (lesnar) and nuthug Dana White aka Don King.

For god sake, he did a bit of showboating…. So what, he was pumped. It was a make or break fight for lesner so let him celebrate whatever way he wants. if every fighter got down on his knees, hugged his opponent and whispered sweet nothings in his ear like gsp it would just get boring.. We need a bit of drama to liven things up, come on ppl stop being so serious. So he might have hurt the 6"3 250 pound ultimate fighters feelings, after the beating herring took it should be the least of his worries… Boo Hoo.

Just one more vote for more GSP/Fitch, less Lesnar. I never comment on blogs, much less MMA blogs, but I appreciate the chance to add one more vote for propriety. One of the things that MMA got very much right in its history is maintaining the martial arts mutual respect. Imperfectly, to be sure. It’s a contact sport, after all – tempers flare. But the mockery is idiotic and embarrassing. It spoiled the Lesnar-Herring fight for me completely. To that point, I was impressed with both fighters; I walked away only impressed with Herring.

If White wants to pat Lesnar’s back and say “He’s a mixed martial artist,” then he needs tell him to act like on as well.

This is yet another thing getting blown out of proportion by the internet authorities. These fighters are going all out when they get in there. Herring had been talking smack for weeks. And not just the regular UFC pre-fight clips. Brock is always going to have the WWE stigma follow him. But listen to him in his interviews, he sounds like a professional who is taking his job seriously. I don’t see anything wrong him “roping in” the Texas Crazy Horse. I guess people think guys are supposed to kneel with each other at every match now. Athletes do it in every sport, and it always comes down to one simple thing. If you like the guy, you don’t mind the celebration. And if you don’t like the guy, you get on the internet and cry about how his celebration is the worst thing ever.

Disrespectful? Insert every post-fight celebration featuring Tito Ortiz here.

He killed Heath, but he didn’t really rub it in Heath’s face, he rubbed it in the face of all the doubters (see post-fight interview). And that kills you. In fact its eating many on this board alive.

You guys want good sportsmanship and “i tried hard” and “i gave it a good effort”. they are in there to kick the holy living crap out of each other and usually alot of smack talking proceeded it. Emotions run high and things like that just happen. I don’t care who does it, it puts fans in seats and its entertaining. If your favorite athlete does it, you will enjoy it, if you hate the guy you will hate it. Simple as that.

Regardless of what you think about Lesnar, the Diaz brothers are far worse.
They have no respect for anyone, but themselves and their teacher.

Yes they do go in to “kick the holy crap out of eachother as you say”. As a fighter myself it is your job to go represent your self and your sport and use your skills to beat your opponent, but it is by no means acceptable to disgrace someone like that. If you look at your true mixed martial artists who have belts in BJJ, Karate, ETC they treat every opponent with the deserved respect. Lesnar talking crap would have been one thing, but to point and laugh in a guys face. This is as bad BJ licking blod, tito flipping people off and so on.

This is a joke. The push you speak of was nothing. Hell I didn’t even notice it until some little pussy wet his pants about it and when I went back and watched, it was nothing, its not like he pushed him hard, it was like any other fighter that is in the moment and the ref break them up, you just want to get away. I agree that the whole riding the back of Herring was stupid but I’ve seen much worse (how about Nate Diaz flicking off everyone as he has Pelligrino(sp) in a triangle). Also, I dunno if anyone notices but to me he was laughing at the end and pointing because Herring barely missed a huge punch after he got Brock off of him in those final seconds and I think Lesnar was just laughing like “so close” because right after they hugged and congratulated each other. If all you can complain about is how someone acted in the cage, stop being a little girl. All fighters, like people, are different and celebrate in different ways and take defeat in different ways. It didn’t seem smackdown like at all (although i’ve never really watched it so i guess i could be wrong). Hell I found Chieck’s post fight speech to be much more offensive and cocky than I did Lesnar. You have to remember that so many people have doubted this guy and he was super stoked in his home town. Give the guy a break….

Personally I don’t have a problem with it. He was excited to get a win and I think the crowd was pretty into it. It might just show him as somewhat classless an not a true respected martial artist.

I hope he bull rushes everyone that he fights. That was funny. Then someone who knows how to toss him on his head does. I think if he acted like that every fight, I would route against him. But man, if he ever gets any kind of skill, that dude is going to be hard to beat. I would like to see him throw down with Mark Hunt or Josh Barnett.

wow i see a whole lot of bitching going on. It’s a fight and who cares if a guy wants to showboat or not. Give the guy a friggin break…he busted his ass for 15 minutes and dominated a good heavyweight.

quit bitching about little baby shit and whine about thinsg that matter…like how Dana White calls everyone morons or spits on guys who fought their hearts out for him for over 10 years.

you guys make me sick. someday when i fight im gonna do alot mroe than point and laugh at my opponent just so I can get a nice little rise out of you fuckin nerds.

try stepping into the cage

I didn’t read one post from a fighter or respected screen name that agreed with Brock’s behavior. I’m going to assume I’m arguing with the under 18 crowd.

yeah cause i really care what Dana thinks of me if i think Brock made himself look like a tool.

I was impressed with the big right hand in first round but I was a little disappointed he couldn’t finish the fight. I personally think once Lesnar learns some jiu-jitsu he will be a huge HUGE problem in the heavyweight division. He is just so strong and explosive its hard for his opponents to find someone like that to train with. Plus getting hit with one of his hands is like getting hit with both of mine. XXXXL thats just crazy. I was disappointed with the pointing and laughing after the fight but I did like the head bobbing with the crowd.

U cant compare this to every other celebration not unless Brock is going to do this after every win. Brock is an idiot and he’s got a dildo tattoo on his chest

Brock does not have the notches in his belt to ever taunt anyone. If your Randy Couture, you are aloud to fake spank a fighter if he needs to grow up(which Tito did). Brock has not done enough to act like that. I was extremely impressed with his control over Herring… but not impressed with his Rodeo dance.

Rob Dib
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who gives a fuck, if he wants to taunt let him..everyone has a gimmick in MMA like the Rampage howl or the Chuck scream its all to generate hype and its good marketing in combat sports. So to JS, whoever you are..get over yourself. Brock is an emotional guy like most fighters, if you were to diagnose him you would say its because of his personality disorders and anabolic use..this topic shouldn’t exist.

I was less upset about the lasso because the fight had ended. However, the Bull riding antics were not called for because the fight was still going on.

Perhaps Lesnar should put that energy into finishing the fight instead of wrestling for three rounds. I think it hurt his credibility in the sport and unless he improves his all round game people will get tired of watching another one dimension fighter who is happy with decisions.

At the end of the day, I have no wish to bear witness to Lesnar’s pro-wrestling antics. If anyone wants to watch nonsense like that, go watch Smackdown.

i was a bit irked by Brock’s antics. It took me a while to figure out why it bothered me at all, but it did. It seemed very strange because i have no problem with BJ’s smack talking and post fight circus act, Tito flipping people off, the common throat slash. Hell, i LOVED Nate Quarry taunting Starnes.

My concensus is this.
1: Wait until the fight is over to celebrate. Most times when i see someone showboating during the fight i’m rooting for them to get smacked right in the face. If the other person won’t engage you, it’s one thing, this is another.

2: The names mentioned earlier for showboating have already proven themselves. i see those antics more as a ’that’s what you get for thinking you could beat me’, whereas an unproven comodity like Brock has no room to talk (yet).

Anyway, just my thoughts and i was very impressed with Brock. Either up the pre-fight trash talk or lower the in/post-fight taunting IMO.

I think everyone is looking a bit too far into this. There is a whole lot more going on in this sport, and sports in general to worry about what this guy does after or during a fight.
What Lesnar did was wrong, but Faber ‘hanging loose’ while on top of Jens is ok?
Do I think what Faber did was wrong? No… but its entirely comparable.

I also think that Lesnar doesn’t know what he is doing… literally. His social displays during interviews and things of that nature haven’t made him look like the sharpest social crayon in the box. I’m not calling the guy dumb, but he doesn’t have the kinda composure guys like GSP or any other athlete that consistantly gives good interviews has. Call it what you will, but Brock has shown a bit of showman ship, and thats fine. But its the guys that are subtle about their approaches that get the respect and coincidently the most success in sports.

Wow! This world is going to hell if this is upsetting this many people… I’m all for sportsmanship but for Godsake, I would have done the same thing if Herring was telling Dana that Brock didn’t deserve to fight him because he was not good enough, and that he’s fought bigger, stronger, better wrestlers. I would make sure he say me laughing after that ass whoopin’ too. Why does no one think Herring disrespected Lesnar. Stop holding grudges because he was a WWE entertainer. All you guys just sit and bitch about everything he does, if he would have been nicer at the end you would have said he didn’t seem excited enough for his first win and would dog him for that… Get over it already. What a bunch of thin skinned whiners you have become.

everyone doubted forrest griffen. did he do all that stuff to rampage? did matt serra do anything like that after he first gsp fight? did napo after his ko of crocop, did randy after gonzaga or sylvia. i understand all these people are matured in the sport but come on. tito has some famous words, “love me or hate me. you will alwyas remember me” i guess thats brocks way of looking at things also. brock is a decent fight will be alot better soon but the ony reason i dont like him is becasue he didnt work his way up he was just there and that he thinks hes the best casue he beat one guy. if he beats kongo the same way he beat herring i will never respect him. lesner and evans r the same…lay and pray except rashadd would have gottewn the sub unlike lesner

Cut the guy some slack, it was his first win in the UFC he has been training hard for it and was extremely excited to get that 1st win.I think he’ll grow up in his up coming fights. Either way they guy is a beast and that punch he threw and connected with was unreal! I look forward to more of his fights!

THE UFC IS SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT…

If you want to see two warriors respect eachother and act like Mr. Miyagi, then go watch TKD tournaments.

These antics have major entertainment value, like them or not!

I tell you why I and many people were offended by it. It wasn’t what he did or how he did it… its the plain fact that Heath Herring was classy and reiterated how prepared he was for this fight but when it came down to it, he did not stand a change against that beast. I was so pissed off at lesnar after his antics i didn’t hear the scoring but I think it should have been 3 10-8 rounds for lesnar so… he dominated a fighter who DID NOT back down and DID take a beating but proved that he does have heart and I really think that anyone else would have tapped out to lesnar but herring put it all on the line so he should get that respect. NOONE AND I MEAN NOONE will say that Herring doesn’t have heart or PRIDE and he showed it saturday night and gave A HELL of an effort. For lesnar to disrespect him was trashy because as he showed saturday night he is a huge strong beast of a guy BUT Herring never quit when he never really pulled any offense together. Most fighters would have just called it a night but not Herring, he gave it his all (most by being in survival mode), and never quit. I know herring is a professional fighter and I mean no disrespect to him by saying this but that fight was the equivalent of a young mike tyson fighting oscar de la hoya (size wise, dont take that too literal guys) BUT… he took all Lesnar had to offer and NEVER GAVE UP. So respect was due, not the disrespect Lesnar showed.

im not one to complain about a lil celebratin,’ if i manhandled heath herring i probably would streaked around the cage for an hour before anyone could slow me down. but i just worry some about where mma is going. if bj stealing some of sherks hard earned protein and brocks complete mockery of the texas crazy horse is okay, then whats going to be okay in say 1-2-3 years? there may be no respect at all. thats all im worried about. good on brock though, hes the real deal!

Lesnar was great.

Anyone see where hughes said he wasn’t impressed with gsp,also said he got up and left during the 3rd rnd

I wrote this Big thing about what I though about what happened and it all comes down to this… Go watch the brock vs. min soo kim fight. In the Min Soo Kim fight, Lesnar was hitting him with HARD shots and just the sure pain of the shots made Kim tap even though he was really in no place to get knocked out. In the fight agains Herring, Herring took those same shots for 15 minutes and never gave up. All I am saying is give the guy some respect. He was outclassed and outmuscled but he still survived for a decision. Atleast Lesnar should have the common sense to see that and show an ounce of respect for him. I really hate to say this about Herring but the fight was almost like a huge school bully vs the big dopey loser in the school who couldnt protect himself getting into a fight for 15 mins and then the big school bully getting up and taunting the loser thinking that hes a bad ass. His pure size just made it unfair and the disrespect wasn’t needed. respect for Herring was what was needed because he gave it his all.

Brock is a noob in mma. He’s making all the noob mistakes. I see it at my gym all the time. These guys walk in, think they’re taking over the whole game, lacks self control, no respect for martial arts, etc. The same thing always happens to them and it will happen to Brock: Reality check. Mir should have cranked with all his strength with that kneebar.

Anyway, I have no doubt that Brock is getting harsh reality check he is just waiting to cash. I’m so confident that I wouldnt mind Brock talking all types of trash or acting all sorts of stupid. One day he will get his and thats the only way boneheads like Brock will learn.

Brock Lesnar has gained a lot of popularity with his recent performance, both during and after the fight. This is him being a performer, being a true showman. He is part fighter, part salesman, and it’s all entertaining. You absolutely hate him or you’re his biggest fan, but either way you have no doubt about your opinions of him. And that’s just the point, you’re talking about him, Brock Lesnar.

All the fans bitching about him lately remind me of all the old farts who thought Ali was a punk, a hooligan, foul mouthed and disgraced his opponents and the sport, it was the end of boxing. Those crusty old fools all seem silly to us now. Their comments are comical. And ironically, it was their disdain for him that really helped him rise that much higher, helped build the legacy they vowed he would never achieve. Ali wasn’t the first, nor the second, and has certainly not been the last to talk smack and act a fool in the ring. Since he’s been out of the game, so many others have come and gone and they will continue decade after decade, for as long as the fighting sports survive. And as fans, we will continue to build them up only to tear them down and rebuild them again. We all play our roles so keep reading your lines, keep talking about Brock.

I say get over it. I have debated this nonstop ever since the fight happened. Heath privately did things to agitate Brock and apparently there were some words prior to the show. THAT, combined with the adrenaline rush that he had to have gotten with his home town cheering for him, getting his first win in the octagon, and proving that he is legit is enough of a reason for him to feel excited.

The guy is having fun, end of story. Was it unprofessional and some what disrespectful to Heath Herring? Yes. But here is the deal, Brock Lesnar is only 2-1 in the world of MMA, he has fought 2 of the top 15 heavyweights in the world, and he defeated a top 15 heavyweight in his 3rd MMA bout. Brock Lesnar was having fun and in front of his home town he wanted to showboat, so what? I found that BJ Penn licking the Blood was disrespectful but yet nobody says much about that, or when Tito Ortiz at UFC 51 ran up out of the octagon, and up a flight of steps for 5 minutes. What Brock did was not on the level of the Tito Ortiz celebrations, and what Brock did was fine after the fight.

He is just trying to have fun doing something he enjoys doing.

a lot of you guys think Brock laughed in Herrings face because he won, not true if you watch the fight you will see Brock pointed and laughed because Herring tried to punch him at the end of the fight a split second before the end of the round…

I didn’t like it but,….it’s in the heat of the moment.
Making a mountain out of a mole hill…
I have a lot of reasons why I don’t like lesner… but this isn’t one of them.
Let it go.

His actions are a main reason why people get killed these days. People dont know how to win and just end it. These days winning is not enough and you have to overly showboat and embarrass the guy. Lets put it this way. If he beat Herrings ass in a street fight and the continued to disrespect and show boat, then there would be no way half of you would complain when Herring came back with a gun and shot him. People just cannot win with class these days. BJ penn licking blood doesnt even come close to this because after BJ wins he always gives props to his opponent.

GSP did a windmill and he has done flips. Irwin pointed a fingergun at Alexander.

Lesner dominated one of the best HW fighters in his 3rd fight. Even Nogueira didn’t do that.

Lesner could have asked for easy targets and tuneup fights like they are giving Kimbo Slice. Instead he wants to beat the best.

The fact that he got a little too excited is not unforgivable.

If Jordon knocked out home runs for the whitesox when he left basketball he might have been a little overjoyed too.

Lesnar looking to steal some of Tim Sylvia’s thunder for ‘most loved UFC heavyweight of all time’ maybe?

Don’t much care for the whole schtick myself however like it or not Lesnar ‘put up’ and proved he can compete in MMA. That said the beauty of the sport is other heavyweights will have the opportunity to punch him in the mouth soon enough.

Is it just me or did another else /palm forehead after Cheick Kongo’s post fight interview? Language barrier or not his message got across loud and clear. Here’s to someone stepping up or down to humble Cheick. I actually find myself hoping he gets fed to Lesnar now..

This is all BS that is coming from JS.. this sport isn’t Soccer or Tennis ok! there’s too much talk about respect in MMA.. these guys get respect for even stepping in and fighting, What Lesnar did is all good and it’s part of the game he’s an entertainer, but he also came over to hug Herring! He didn’t disrespect anyone and it was just for fun.. It’s refreshing to see someone that does what he feels like and he didn’t even do anything!

Lesnar is exactly what the stale heavyweight division needs. he is a good sport. he was gracious in defeat to mir(even though he calls him mur) he will put butts in the seats, I am a hardcore fan and i love the guy. maybe he did a stint in wwe but before that he was a 4 time all american wrestler 1 time runner up and 1 time division 1 national champion. he belongs in the ufc. all you bitchers need to go away because i bet you are the same ones bitching when there are boring hw fights like arlovsky vs. werdum. or tim silva vs. anyone. No one will ever be able to say that lesnar is boring. whats the difference between talking a little trash before a fight, and a little showmanship after the fight

Who cares, Brock is boring to watch, he’s an oaf. All he did was smother Heath the entire fight- BORING. My boyfriend and I (both Minnesotans) were horrified by his antics. Thanks for representin Minnesota, Brock. What an embarrassment. Go away.

I’m not a big fan of all the post game antics either, but for everybody to making such a big freakin deal about this, is a little much.
These guys (including Herring & Lesnar) will trash each other for months prior to a fight, then, if they don’t pull a brokeback mountain in the Octagon after a fight, everbody starts crying for the purity of the sport. It’s just not that big of a deal.

Good if its Lesnar but bad if its Bisping? isnt that the truth double standard people on here? i atually like Lesnar and Bispings antics but its true what i said.

Good if its Lesnar but bad if its Bisping? Chefdaddy?

Anyone how complains about Brocks “antics” that was born a male was born a male by accident.

The only thing to complain about is how the ref poked Heath in the eye before the fight even started.

So Brock can do it because Anderson Silva does something similar? You can’t compare this idiot to the pound for pound best figher that has been in the sport for years. And one thing is to celebrate and it is totally different to disrespect. MMA want sportsmanship, this is the “art” of Martial Arts, it’s not just entertainment. People who say this was ok to do are just plain ignorant

I say “Thats a baaad man!” (And Heath shouldnt have done so much disrespecting before the fight and he wouldnt have gotten disrespected so much during the fight. Period)

there’s a difference between celebration, and mocking/taunting. it was pretty clear lesnar was mocking/taunting heath, after he beat him pretty bad. that is very immature, and 99% of mma fighters don’t act like that. bj penn licking blood, that’s weird, but that’s not taunting or trying to humiliate his beaten opponent, that’s his celebration thing, no matter how weird, but that’s how he celebrates. almost all fighters talk a little smack before fights, they do it to build up the fight. look at all the talk between penn and sherk before the fight, but that’s all it was, was talk. afterwards they both showed great respect and sportsmanship. sportsmanship > showmanship. yeah, you want to be a good showman, but you also want to show great respect for your opponent that is willing to get in the cage with you and put it all on the line.

lesnar is like a jock super hero. he should have gave herring an atomic wedgie and threw his ass into the bleachers haha just to prove a point. he gave heath the little brother beat down of his lifetime. he’s a tool but he’s a 300 pound man who wrestles better than josh koscheck and can make a man do a backwards roll 12 feet with a right straight. fuck the haters. im a fan!

bad, i was really rooting for lesnar, and really impressed…. until i saw him disrespecting his opponent. i thought i even saw him push heath a couple times after end of rounds. f*** brock, i lost all respect for him after that and will not support him, or any future UFC fights he participates in. and that means IM NOT BUYING UFC PPV until someone straightens him out

I am a big fan of Lesnar. I am not and haven’t been a “fake wrestling” fan since the 1980’s when the British Bulldogs were tearing tag team up with the Road Warriors, Hulk Hogan was in his prime, and Ricky the Dragon Steamboat was the constant dark horse. It does not bother me that Brock is now an MMA fighter. If anything, it makes me happy that his WWE fans now will tune into seeing real fighting.

I like personality in fighters, but for me, the fighters talent and octagon work is the most important thing. That’s why I enjoy watching BJ, Randy, GSP, Silva, and now Brock…because they go in the octagon and put on a great show. Fighting is a sport, but above all, it is entertainment. So bring on the attitudes and crazy personalities!

Who wins if Lesnar fights Gonzaga next?

There’s a difference between showboating and being disrespectful and I think that is what bothers most people.

Pushing your opponent, riding him like a bull, and grabbing the microphone out of someones hands are disrespectful.

You’re a martial artist now, not a wrestler, start acting like one Brock.

You Lesnar haters have only one thing to look forward too. A UFC champion named Brock and you can cry about sportsmanship all day but it won’t change the fact that you are a pussy and brock would kick your ass and your favorite heavyweight, laying on them or not, your face would go from looking like shit, to bloody shit.

When are we going to hear something about Heath Herring? It seems like he has disappeared from the face of the Earth ever since that fight. There is no news whatsoever. It’s a little strange. Has ANYONE heard ANYTHING?

I can’t stand Brock or wrestlers. I don’t care about his past but when all you do is throw a couple jabs to setup a takedown and lay on them for 15 min. is boring and shows lack of skill. How many times in that fight did he give up the most dominant position just so he could get back to a wrestling position? Brock knows nothing about MMA. Wrestling…yes MMA… no. Most boring fighter i’ve seen. Nothings going to change either, A guy who has to cut weight to make 265, and with his wrestling background he well do nothing different to win. Jab, takedown, and lay on them. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Not to mention laughing, roping, and pushing. Glad he’s in the UFC

My concern wasn’t that he celebrated… it was what he did. He comes in looking so bad ss and then celebrates with that gay little dance and lasso??? WTF???? It was just stupid and I felt sorry for him and I feel sorry for all the little 12 yr olds that are going to be running around the playground thinking that badss’s lasso thier victoms…

Two thoughts:

The question posed in this thread is both asked and answered by the 200 responses. Interest>Ratings->Money->Profit->Good fighter salaries->Improved talent pool->More interest

Second, I’m still DYING to see a picture of Heath Herring. Did he go into witness protection? I’ll offer a bounty.

give me a break what r u guys like 90 years old or something…what brock did was nowehre near the stuff tito used to pull and its nothing like the WWE, if he didnt come from the WWE im 10000% sure u wouldnt be saying this…..lets remember these guys r fighters u guys act like there some politicians or some shyt….

This is rediculous. Lesnar went too far, plain and simple. For everyone saying things like: what about Penn (licking his gloves, and the long choke), what about Guillard, etc etc. blah blah… the point is, all of its uncalled for and really shouldn’t happen; Lesnar is just the latest example. I realize that there might be little wars going on between people, so there might be a lot of hard feelings. But if even Ortiz can show some level of respect (after the Shamrock vs Ortiz fight, where they buried the hatchet), surely others can.

The point is to keep the UFC, and therefore MMA, a reputable sport. I don’t want to see it move in the direction of WWE, or a ‘human cock fight’, or a group of disrespectful street brawlers (if I wanted to watch that crap I’d look up Kimbo Slice on yo*t*be—but lets not get that one started).

I enjoy UFC because it’s skilled fighters that mean business; but they keep it civil, respectful, honorable, and therefore enjoyable. I hope that makes sense, UFC is a rare balance, I just want to make sure that balance is maintained.

I loved how he grabbed the mike from Joe Rogan. He was excited and it showed. He embraced Herring after the fight. He also gave Mir more props. Bottom line he’s good and he is here to stay.

I love all the comments from the so called fighters with belts that disapprove of what happened. I have been an athlete for 25 years now all the way through college. Baseball Football wrestling now Flag Football and softball and MMA for fun. For the most part i have been very humble in victory and defeat. But on occasion the right person or right team can get under my skin and cause me to over celebrate. If you watched brock in college you would see a very gracious person most of the time. He got excited, no big deal. If you say that as an athlete you have never got overly fired up then your either a liar or not an athlete. End of Story

There’s no shame for Heath. He got domitated, and more top HWs will get dominated by Brock. This is just the beginning. There’s no one in the MMA world right now that has Brock’s power, size and speed. If Brock is tested and able to manhandle the likes of Shane Carwin, I see him being UFC HW champion by 2010.

I was thinking Gonzaga would be a great next opponent for Lesner. They’re both super aggressive and that would make for a great fight. After that maybe Kongo or Werdum (if Werdum wins his next fight). Then a title shot.
Also, that Velasquez has been impressive. One more win and he should be in the mix. I’d give him Herring or even a crack at Kongo.

Lesnar is the going to hold the hw title in the near future. If u think hes boring ur retarded. Hes stronger and faster than any other hw out right now. And i dont understand y its so bad that he doesnt want to kiss the guys ass right after the fight like everybody else does. Y do they instantly have to become best friends?

Brock Lesnar is the future of the Heavyweight division. If people don’t like him, that’s fine. I am just going to recap what many others have said. He is making a name for himself. We will all watch him in the future. Whether you like him or not is irrelevant there are always 2 sides to a fight. He is an exciting fighter, he is in peak physical condition, he will only get better.

My hat is off to Heath Herring. What a night of gutsy performances. I swear I read it right in FIGHT! magazine the reason why we love this sport is the amazing display of courage it takes to get into the ring and press on through 15 minutes of the most intense/grueling sport out there.

BAD!!

Brock is an ass clown. 50lb advantage and knockout power and he can’t end the fight. Dana can laugh at Kimbo all he wants; Brock is the UFC version. Doubt Lesnar would’ve appreciated it if Mir ran around the ring acting like a gorilla as Brock sat on the ground carressing his ankle.

Lesnar said all the right things in the mass media leading up to the fight to make MMA fans give him a chance and take him seriously. But if you dig a little bit you can find live interviews (not pro wrestling, but Minnesota news) that reveal what a meat-head he is. I lost a lot of respect for him as a competitor due to his post fight antics; and although he controlled the fight, he didn’t exactly domiante it. He fought like Tito Ortiz, but with no submission skills. He would be in for an ego shattering experience if he tried to take on Minotauro.

is it really possible that people think it takes no skill to beat heath herring? and to beat him 30-26? can you possibly be that crazy? how bout you go eat 7000 hohos and spend every minute of your life bench pressing. then when you weigh 280 pounds you can go show us how easy it is. good luck

brock had heath so controlled it was stupid. why would someone with hardly any mma experience give up a winning strategy to risk a submission on a top-ranked veteran? do you think all those punches and knees didnt hurt? would you mind letting brock demonstrate some of them on you so you could find out for yourself?

For a second I was worried herring was going to die when he started keeling over after that massive knee against the fence. if brock’s legs matched his upper body herring would have had a broken rib lodged in his liver