WEC 35 recap: Condit and Varner retain, Cantwell crowned
by MMAmania.com on Aug 4, 2008 12:31 AM EDT
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Once again, World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) tonight delivered another action-packed card, proving that it is indeed among the top mixed martial arts promotions in the business.
Two champions retained their belts, one didn't and several up-and-coming fighters solidified their positions as potential threats down the road.
WEC Welterweight Champion Carlos Condit had perhaps his biggest test to date against Japanese import and skilled Judo player, Hiromitsu Miura. He threw everything but the kitchen at the former middleweight and Miura returned fire, putting "The Natural Born Killer" in some very dangerous -- and rare -- positions.
Miura leveraged his Judo background to toss, sweep and trip the champion early and often. Condit was eager to showcase his stand up skills and Miura was kind enough to oblige.
Condit -- for the most part -- got the better of the exchanges. That's not to say, however, that Miura didn't land some nice junk -- he did some damage. And he really looked impressive when he was able to work his ground and pound.
But Condit was able to survive and reverse most if not all of Miura's attacks. He was slick on the ground as usual with his jiu-jitsu, but Miura was able to power out of all of them.
By the time the fourth round came around, both fighters were clearly gassed. Miura dug deep and had Condit in trouble; however, he likely blew his load and had nothing left once Condit was able to get to his feet.
In fact, Condit hit him with a weak-looking fly knee that sent him crashing to the canvas. He followed it up with some strikes, which Miura didn't have the energy to defend. The referee at the point had seen enough and called a halt to the action.
It was a great fight -- Condit showed the heart of a champion and Miura showed he deserved to challenge for the 170-pound title.
There's no doubt that a rematch could be in the cards in the near future.
Steve Cantwell waited for his rematch with WEC Light Heavyweight Champion Brian Stann. And it was well worth it.
He decided to stand and bang with the "All American" despite getting knocked out when the pair first met. From the opening bell, both fighters were swinging for the fences. Cantwell appeared to be more accurate and the more diverse striker, mixing it up with some solid knees, kicks and punches.
Stann, on the other hand, looked stiff and threw his punches with his head down. It should come as no surprise that he did not find his mark. What is a surprise is his conditioning -- the former Marine was clearly wiped from the first round action.
And in the second round Cantwell clipped him with a looping punch behind his left ear. It didn't appear to be a devastating blow, however, Stann dropped like a sniper picked him off from the rafters.
In fact, he didn't do much to defend himself once he was on the canvas. Cantwell landed a few strikes and that was it -- the WEC has a new 205-pound champion ... again.
Stann showed class at the end of the fight, wrapping the belt around the new champion. He might get another shot at reclaiming the strap sooner rather than later because the competition at light heavyweight is thin in the WEC.
Indeed, we could very well see the rubbermatch between Cantwell and Stann sooner rather than later. Let's just hope Stann is ready to go five rounds.
In other championship action, 155-pound titleholder Jamie Varner retained his belt with an eye-opening first round technical knockout victory over the previously undefeated Marcus Hicks.
Hicks was a serious threat to Varner because he is so compact and strong. He is also a worldclass Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialist with decent stand up skills.
And Hicks started the night off right with some big throws and a guillotine choke attempt, which seemed to throw off Varner early on. However, "The Worm" connected with two huge knees that appeared to turn the tide.
From that point on he had Hicks on the brink of collapse with clean shots that went unanswered, however, he just wouldn't go down despite the punishment.
Finally, Varner was able to put on the finishing touches and, in the process, defend his title for the first time. He called out the winner of the fight between "Razor" Rob McCullough and Donald Cerrone in his post-fight remarks.
That should be good.
Rounding out the main card was a bantamweight brawl between Brian Bowles and Damacio Page. The two fighters set a frantic pace early on, throwing leather with reckless abandon.
Bowles attempted numerous submissions, but Page was able to defend ... almost.
He went for a takedown and Bowles timed it just right, jumping and wrapping his limbs around Page in midair. Page's arms were trapped and he had Bowles wrapped around his neck -- there was nothing he could do ... not even tap if he wanted.
The referee noticed the situation and stepped in as soon as the fighters hit the mat. Another 10 seconds and Page would have gone to sleep.
With the win Bowles keeps his perfect record intact and his sights set on an eventual title shot. In fact, WEC Bantamweight Champion Miguel Torres was all smiles ringside.
Probably because a showdown with Bowles might be up next before the year expires.
All in all this was a great night of fights. The production was solid and the announcers did a fine job -- Frank Mir even had to take care of some business early on in the telecast, pushing aside someone who accidentally appeared in the foreground.
Good stuff.
And there's even more to come on September 10 with WEC 36, which will feature the rematch between Paulo Filho and Chael Sonnen, as well as Urijah Faber putting his 145 pound belt on the line against Mike Brown.
To check out the WEC results and blow-by-blow commentary click here.
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I did too. They said he was finally able to train full time as a fighter, but for some reason the skills he already had looked worse, and I didn’t see any new weapons in his arsenal. He kept throwing the same 3 punch combo, and he would cover his head with both hands when under attack, a move I have seen quite a few fighters use, and I always cringe when I see it. I hope he can train hard and return more polished because he seems like a good guy and an asset to the sport.
by naturalshadow on Aug 4, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Bowles might not make it throught the year because he’s slated to face Miguel Torres before the year expires. I guess it’ll be an “ironic happy new year” for Brian, hahaha!!
by TheNegation on Aug 4, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions
Great show. I was impressed by Condit’s heart. He had several good moments, but my favorite was in the 3rd round, he was tired and got caught by Miura. His response was to dig deep and drive Miura accross the octagon and get a takedown, allowing him to recover.
Varner was also impressive, with his accurate strikes.
Felt bad for Stann. He was very classy in defeat. His closing interview reminded me of Couture’s comments after his first loss to Liddell. Hopefully Stann can add more dimensions to his striking game.
Good night!
by Redravi7 on Aug 4, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
I have yet to see last nights fights so I am just speaking in General. I like Stann, as a man who fought for our country I have much respect for him and I root for him, but he needs to improve his game and expand on his tools. I am not the least bit surprised that he lost the title last night.
I told u guys that Condit would win, but not by submission. Japanese dudes are close to impossible to submit! I still didnt see the fight so I dont have much to say. anyone know where I can watch the fights?
by john on Aug 4, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
John: IN Brians fight in the first round you just knew Cantwell..was in control. Well I hope Brian can take you advice.. cuz it would make for an intresting rubber match.
Carlos vs Miura.. was a real good fight.. Carlos was winning the stand up.. was winning and dominating the ground.. Miura had some nasty Judo throws.. but didn’tdo much once it hit the canvas.. This was a good test for Carlos.. he was tired ? Waht amazed me about Miura..was as both fighters were tired.. and Muira being moutned several times.. and escaping.. but what got me was the esplosiveness of Muira.. that would bugg me the F out.. being tired ..knowing the guy I’m fighting is tired too.. but still he has these episodes where just expodes. Props to both fighters for making it a good. This wEC card turned out REAL GOOD. I didn’t see one decision. We got a war.. a TKO..A KO.. Submission.
by PhilQNY on Aug 4, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I cant wait to watch the replay. I was lookingfo the fighst online this morning but i cant find any of them. Anyone know where I can view these fights?
by john on Aug 4, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
when i first saw Condit walk out i had a bad feeling about the fight. he didn’t have that look on his face that he always does, like he wasn’t focused. He didn’t fight at all like himself either. after the fight when he mentioned that his grandmother had died 2 days ago, it all made sense.
by KitsuneX on Aug 4, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
there’s gonna be a replay tuesday night at 9 eastern time
by deuce 4 on Aug 4, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not impressed at all by Condit. He had Miura mounted at least 4 times and couldnt finish him. He had two armbars and was too weak to pull Miura’s arm out. Condit got lucky in this fight. Miura was very sloppy during the scrambles and that is what allowed Condit, in the end, to win the fight.
Condit is the WEC’s WW champion and he would get dominated in the UFC’s LIGHTWEIGHT division. Either BJ Penn or Georges St.Pierre would completely annihilate Condit. Those are the reasons he will never fight in the UFC.
by Spider Rulz on Aug 4, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Condit is 24 years old. there is no need to rush him into a fight with the UFC WW champ right now. I don’t know what Mir was thiking when he kept saying that Condit is the #2 WW in the world. I got him more like #7.
There is no way the Condit would get ‘dominated’ in the lW division. He is 6 foot 2, he’d have HUGE reach advantages.
If Jon Fitch loses to GSP, should he have to be demoted to the WEC since he couldn’t beat GSP?
Actually, Im just going to stop typing now becaue it is pointless to respond to you.
by ViolentMike on Aug 4, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Carlos has a lot of maturing to do. He is a baby as far as fighting goes. He does not even have his man muscle yet. Miura was a very experienced test for him. It is obvious that He could not fight Penn ot GSP, who can contend with them in the UFC, besides each other? Condit also had a very bad showing last night, death of grandmother and all. Gsp lost to Matt Serra and has been a wrestler since, he is not the same explosive GSP that I used to love. Even Anderson Silva has a crap lost to Dahaitsu something or other. At least Condit stuck to his game plan and tried over and over again, with no quit. Give him 4 or 5 years, so his body and strength can mature to his skill set and he will be a beast. All the monsters in MMA are in their late 20’s early 30’s. That is prime for males. You surely can not base him not ever being in the UFC based upon 1 showing as a 24 year old. How about all the other fights he has one. How about his win over a much stronger and much more experienced Brock Larson or John Allessio? I realize they have the same number of fights more or less, but Brock LArson and Allessio have fought in much tougher comp. and skilled comp. He is and will be a force to reckon with. You can not count out a fighter because of one bad showing or else 98% of the UFC would be out of it including GSP.
by Da Monkey on Aug 4, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Condit and Varner are UFC material. I wish Zuffa could get something done for some cross league fights.
by BCSFN80 on Aug 4, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions
didnt varner get destroyed in the ufc? and condit would be if he had a bit more size he’s to small to compete with gsp,serra,or hughes even hes exactly what hughes liked fighting
by randy murders on Aug 4, 2008 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
hell no varner didnt get destroyed in the ufc his first fight he was submitted in the 3rd round by hermes franca who he said he really wants a rematch with, you could tell and he even admitted the nerves got to him. then he completely outmatched jason gillam.
by AzCombat on Aug 4, 2008 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Chael Sonnen used to fight in the UFC. He lost to babalu
by john on Aug 4, 2008 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Condit and Varner are UFC material. I wish they could get a shot at the UFC’s best.
by BCSFN80 on Aug 4, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions
Varner has had a shot in the UFC. He lost to Hermes Franca in 2006 and beat Jason Gilliam in 2007. Then he went to the WEC after that fight and beat Sheron Legget, AKA Rob Roy from TapOut. I really wanted Rob Roy to win that fight
by ViolentMike on Aug 4, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Condit and Varner are definitely UFC material. I would love to see a Condit vs GSP fight.
by Cody on Aug 4, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions
Even though Condit is a great fighter he would be out classed by GSP, and has lost a unanimous dec to Jake Shields who I don’t believe could be GSP either. However, I do think Condit has a shot at squeeking into the top 5 in the world at 170lbs.
by THORAZINE on Aug 4, 2008 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Condit was gassed at the end of the 2nd round, that just doesn’t happen to top 10 WW in the UFC. Although he could barely stand after the fight he was smart in noting how he was happy in defending his belt in the WEC and made no mention of the UFC. He’s a good fighter but young, he’s smart to make some cash and hold a belt in the WEC rather then be an $8k mid level fighter in a stacked division.
by Arnold on Aug 4, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
All in all, I have to say, the WEC did prove that it has some very good talent at all angles and weights. I enjoyed this show very much and can only wish that they can continue to put on shows like this everytime out. Plus we got to see just what the “champions” were made of. Great stuff indeed. All the way around.
I can guarantee you this, that both Stann and Condit will have rematches in there upcoming fights for sure. Stann didnt impress me to much, though I knew it would just be a matter of time before the unbeatable was actually beaten. He is still young in the sport and I can only dream of a day when he is on top of his game, the pinnacle of his career, and fighting in the UFC. The man has a great heart and a great future and a great backstory to wins the hearts of millions. Also what can we say for Cantwell. Great comeback huh? He looked like a completely different fighter this time around and was in phenomenal shape compared to his first fight with Stann. I cant wait to see what Stann has to offer the next time these two lock it up.
Now onto Condit and the “Last Samurai”. All I can say is that I was in AWE!! This might be one of the best and most grueling fights I have seen all year if not ever. If anyone does not think they gave their all in there in this fight, look at the two at the end of it. While the “Last Samurai” was still laying on the ground, not from being knocked out, just from sheer exhaustion, Condit stood trying to talk to the announcer and did more talking with his eyes closed as if he was actually going to fall asleep from being worn down, also the wobbling in his legs were really evident. This was Condit’s greatest challenge yet, and I think he proved to everyone in the thrid round that he can for sure take a damn punch. He was hit square and flush in the face numerous times and still came forward and threw punches. But the same has to be said about Miura. This man has a heart of IRON!! He gave it his everything, believe me. I can not, I repeat, I can not, wait to see the rematch, there will be one, there has to be one. This might have been the fight of the year people. Seriously.
Also Varner looked good but it was totally evident from the just the stare down that he would dominate this one. I mean the size comparison was HUGE. I personally look for Varner and McCullough to have a rematch here soon and Razor taking his title back. No offense to Varner, kids got a bright future, very young, only 23, he will be here for a long time, but I dont think he can keep his title for very long. Especially after I saw the first fight between him and “Razor” and the punch he took that knocked his mouth piece out and then asking for a time out, literally, and resting up from the wobbling he had just recieved. If that would not have happen, we would have seen McCullough defending his title tonight. Just a matter of time.
Well sorry so long you all, I just had to speak my two cents. I was so excited after I watched it I just cant shut up about it now lol, thanks for letting me waste your time ok….. Anthony
by AnthonyWC on Aug 4, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions
Wow man, you should definitely blog. Peace!
by TheNegation on Aug 4, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
After reading what I wrote, I was thinking the same thing lol. I wouldnt even know how to get into it to be honest though. Sorry for all of you all that think it is way to long. If you notice every comment I have ever posted on this site has always been long ass hell. I just have always have alot to say and I cant see how anyone puts all of there thoughts in such a small paragraph are sentence… lol… Anthony
by AnthonyWC on Aug 4, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s cool man. Just keep it short and simple. Chicks dig that, you know, guys who are straight to the point…So if only Gina carano were around, hmmm…
by TheNegation on Aug 4, 2008 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, good post Anthony. There are not that many of us that make long, well thought out posts. I would today about yesterday’s event, but I’m working from home today taking care of my wife (she’s taking a nap right now). NEVER appologize for a long post!
I feel the same way as you regarding Condit, especially since I’be been a fan of him for a couple years now. Miura is a BIG and strong WW. It was just his 2nd fight at WW coming down from MW. That was one of the main knocks on Condit – people saying that he is too small and weak to compete with larger WW’s. Sure Miiura was able to Judo throw him down almost at will, Carlos got right back up just about every time. And you’re right about Round 3, he took some HUGE shots right to the chin and just kept coming forward.
If you saw my post yesterday I was saying that Stann is waaay too big of a favorite in his fight, and that was when he was -350. Later, he was -400. I placed a small bet on Cantwell at +300. It was just too tempting not too seeing that Cantwell was the much more well rounded striker.
I also had Hicks picked to win, and man, I couldn’t have been more wrong! I am curious to know what weight Varner walks around at? A fight between him and Condit at WW would be VERY exciting!
That will most likely never happen, especially no time soon. Next up for Condit is goinng to be Brock Larson IMO. Hopefully larson can last a little longer this time so everyone can see how nasty Condit can be.
Also, I am quickly becoming a fan of Josh “The Fluke” Grispi. Plus he is only 19 years old!
And what’s up with those TapOut commercials they were showing all night about that kid named “Upgrade” who is supposedly the youngest person to fight in the UFC. Other than Nick Diaz and Vitor Belfort, I don’t know of anone else that fought in the UFC at 19 years old. You need to be 21 just to be on The Ultimate Fighter. Does anyone know who this fighter is that they are speaking of???
by ViolentMike on Aug 4, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
dan lauzon.. joe lauzon’s little brother. he fought spencer fisher at ufc 64. i think he was 18. i could be wrong though.. he was actually holding his own and probably winning the round till spencer ko’d him..
by Sinister on Aug 4, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Mike. I appreciate it. And thank you to Negation, I wish I could meet Gina Carano lol. A dream come true. I was also wondering Mike about that guy who is the youngest. They were playing him up alot huh. I wonder if he has got the goods. Plus like you were saying, “The Fluke” is only 19 years old and has a record of 12-1, that is pretty good, but my question is this, what kind of competition has he been fighting. He looked good dont get me wrong. I think his fight was stopped a little, a little, to soon, maybe a couple of seconds later, because it was stopped so fast you couldnt really tell if the other boy was out or not. He probably was though just from how is reaction to the referee played out you know. I am not to sure about the competition left for Condit at this weight class in this org. I mean, if a rematch happens, which HAS TO HAPPEN, if he doesnt lose his belt, what is he suppose to do, rebeat everyone in the division again. There really isnt that much there to begin with because he has beaten just about everyone.
As far as a Condit vs Varner fight, that wouldnt be bad to watch. I am sorry though, I am just not buying on Jamie Varner, I dont know what it is. I just have this feeling that he is not ready yet for what he has. In 3-4 years maybe, and I do think it is remarkable at what he has accomplished but I dont think he is there just yet and got lucky, with a little ref help, against McCullough. I personally think Varner would get his ass handed to him like he handed Hicks his the other night against Condit. I mean Condit is way to big for him man. The size difference would be remarkable. But I can see Varner moving up in wieght in the future. I mean he is cut as hell and one can only assume that he must walk around larger then his fights you know. Anywayze, sorry to take up more of your time…. Anthony
by AnthonyWC on Aug 5, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe this fight will humble condit..he was getting a little too cocky when a no name fighter almost beat him…
by derreck on Aug 4, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions
stann showed a lot of weakness in his game.. im glad he lost.. a win wouldnt improve his skills.
by imveryactive on Aug 4, 2008 1:34 AM EDT reply actions
unfortunately for miura the ref must of been a condit fan..two unnecessary stand ups after miura earned the dominant position..taking nothing away from condit i think the final result would have been different
by truestory on Aug 4, 2008 1:51 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah I noticed that too. He was pretty fast to warn Miura everytime he got a dominant position. Josh Rosenthal has one of the worst reputations as a ref for a reason.
by Jason on Aug 4, 2008 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad Stann lost, couldnt stand that guy.
Great card overall.
by DirtyML on Aug 4, 2008 2:40 AM EDT reply actions
Know who else can’t stand Stann? The Taliban. Think about that.
by PW on Aug 4, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
SIDE NOTE
VITOR BELFORT, MATT LINDLAND FIGHT WONT BE FOR THE TITLE
SEAN SHERK VS TYSON GRIFFIN WILL HAPPEN IN THE FALL
by mitt romney on Aug 4, 2008 2:42 AM EDT reply actions
Great matchup, I think Sherk will take it though, he’s a little bigger and more powerful, even though Tyson has recently looked like he put on some size. Tyson has youth and the junk yard dog attitude though.
by THORAZINE on Aug 4, 2008 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I’d like to see Griffin put the wood to Sherk, but I think Sherk is just too strong for him.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 4, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I am happy that they are fighting. They need to get one of these 2 non fioght finishing wrestlers out of title contention, since they are basically, the same fighter.
by john on Aug 4, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Being from the UK I was not able to see this WEC event, but it definately sounds like it was an excellent show. To me this sounds like another example of why the UFC shouldn’t have total control and being the only organization responsible for MMA. If this was the case, you would never get an opportunity to see events like this. I would imagine there would be a lot of very good fighters out there that would be overlooked and that we would never get the chance to see, especially if they believe a certain division is stacked enough as it is. I will see if I can find this WEC event.
by Ade on Aug 4, 2008 4:00 AM EDT reply actions
Love your comment. You are a very talented writer.
That aside, both organizations are Zuffa-owned making UFC and WEC sisters.
by cmon_chokehim on Aug 4, 2008 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Those were some action filled fights. I was impressed, nice work WEC!
by DJR on Aug 4, 2008 4:08 AM EDT reply actions
Condit and Miura put on a great show but that referee Rosenthal has got to go. No Warnings about knees to the head in the 1rst round, quick stand up calls when Miura had a dominant position, and considering the 4th round only had 15 seconds left, I think he could have let it gon on. Rosenthal let Condit take consecutive blows from Miura to the face and as I recall there were moments I felt that the fight was going to be stopped thinking, “man what an upset”, but when Condit catches Miura with a grazing knee from obviously pure exhaustion and begins hitting him for about 10 seconds with weary shots, Rosenthal decides to stop it. It was obvious both men were tired and poured their hearts out, but I felt the referee ruined a classic battle that could of went to the 5th round.
Condit vs. Miura II the REMATCH but please let Herb Dean or Steve Mazagatti handle this one.
Referee Rosenthal sucks!!
by Skelow on Aug 4, 2008 5:52 AM EDT reply actions
Better yet Yves Levine. Mazagatti, uh no.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 4, 2008 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree 100%. Rosenthal sucks big time. Did anyone notice, right before the decision was announced, Rosenthal, with a big smile on his face, looked over at Condit and whispered something to him. That looked very suspicious to me and I’ve never seen a referee do that before.
by Spider Rulz on Aug 4, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
he said sorry for getting you with my knee, when he was breaking it up. condit couldnt care less what he had to say tho ha
by medecineballs on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortuneately, I imagine a lot of guys on this site lost a TON of money betting on Stann!
by chefdaddy on Aug 4, 2008 7:00 AM EDT reply actions
Rosenthal really should have let them do more work in this fight. He gets paid to to that though.. so whatever.
Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com
by Rob Dib on Aug 4, 2008 7:37 AM EDT reply actions
Condit showed last night that he has a lot of heart to go with his slick skill set. This fight proves that Condit (as is Miura) a true warrior. Condit’s fight with Miura was outstanding and as usual it was a pleasure to listen to Mir’s analysis. Stann needs to diversify his attack. He has a very promising future in MMA and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him as a serious challenger in the UFC in the middleweight division (not light heavyweight) in the not so distant future. I was somewhat surprised by Varner’s explosiveness and by how easily he TKO’d Hicks. As usual, the WEC delivered. The WEC is a really entertaining product. Since the WEC and the UFC are both owned by Zuffa, it should be interesting to see how things evolve between the two entities. I hope (as rumoured) that the WEC focuses exclusively on the lighter weightclasses.
by Muscle Dolphin on Aug 4, 2008 7:57 AM EDT reply actions
Would I be out of lines saying that the WEC is the best MMA on TV?
Seems like every fight just gets you on the edge of your seat.
by Luppers on Aug 4, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply actions
Overall I think last nights show was far better than the last UFN.
by the_mexicutioner on Aug 4, 2008 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I can agree with that. I’m not sure that it means all of those guys from last night belong in the UFC, but the matchups made for a great card. Some of the UFNs have been fairly slow.
by Jrandolph on Aug 4, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought this was a great card. Stann just looked out matched last night. I feel for guy, but hopefully this wakes him up and he realizes that he’s got to broaden his game to be a force in the MMA game.
by Tigerfansince84 on Aug 4, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
the ufc has better fighters, but they wont put together as competetive fights as the wec is. barn burners man, everytime
and john mmatko.com has the fights if you didnt see my earlier post
by medecineballs on Aug 4, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
whats everybodys take on grispi? hes now 12-1 and 19 years old. with a healthy mix of sub and ko/tko finishes. i dont see him takin fabers belt for a while but shit…. 19? thats a lot of time to improve on a solid base.
by medecineballs on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
Excellent night of fights.
Condit is good but he needs some more bulk if he does transition to the UFC. As for the arguments that he cant hang with GSP or BJ… uhh who cares no one else can much either. There are a ton of great fights Condit would match up well in. Think Fisher, Cole Miller, Clay G,. Nate Diaz, or Danzig, AJ, Mike Swick to throw out a couple names. He isnt ready to go for a UFC title but he can still make a mark.
I want to see Muira again. Those throws were awesome and clearly they sapped some of the strength from Condit. Big throws of any type will just wear you out.
by dogs on Aug 4, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
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