UFC Quick Quote: Brock Lesnar isnt like anybody else
by MMAmania.com on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 AM EDT
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"I'm Brock Lesnar; I'm not here to be like anybody else. Sure, I respect what a lot of guys have done, but I'm not going to sit here and look up to them. I want to be the best, me, Brock Lesnar, and I am working hard to be the best."
-- UFC heavyweight Brock Lesnar perhaps makes the understatement of the year, responding to a question from SetantaSports.com when asked who he admires in the UFC. He's a freak of nature. The former collegiate wrestling champion, WWE star and NFL dropout will take on Heath Herring at UFC 87: "Seek and Destroy" on August 9. He's dubbed it a "do or die" fight because of his first loss inside the Octagon to Frank Mir at UFC 81: "Breaking Point" earlier this year.
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“I’m ViolentMike; and I’m not here to be liked by anybody. Sure, I respect the opinions of other posters, but I’m not going to sit here and look up to them. I want to be the best, me, ViolentMike. And also, ViolentMike sounds like a douchebag referring to ViolentMike in the 3rd person.”
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CB Dolloway says CB Dolloway agrees.
by UKmmaBOY on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Dole is here to tell you that Bob Dole likes the UFC. Bob Dole likes to watch fights. Bob Dole. Did I say Bob Dole yet? No? Well Bob Dole then.
by PW on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO at all of this!! Haha this is great stuff!
by --utaptout-- on Jul 30, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heheheheheheheh… VM.. I’m a fan yours.. You should be the " Interconitental Post Champ " you deserve the Mania Gold !!!!
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well I would like his 1st title defense to be against Me!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep..that would be a war of a post/comment debate.. who wants it more? who wants the right to be the ultimate mania poster??!?!? Your gonna get hit..your gonna get dropped..this is the ultimate.. Maniacs!! Are you keyboard MMA maniacs..ready?!?!?! Can you dig it!?!?!!?
I’m jus bugging out…=P
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Herring kick’s his head off.
by billycarnage on Jul 30, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who has less of a life? haha you guys are fun
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, i’m at work I get paid to be here.. lol
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you wanna be a fucking Mmmamania poster!
by James S on Jul 30, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil: Here is your daily dose of Affliction nEws:
Aleksander is disease free! this is what he said about why he wasn’t allowed to fight:
He want allowed to fight because he was late!
He says that according to the CSAC he was supposed to be tested on 13th. He only received a visa on 14th and came to US on 15th. He was hoping that they would be able to still work everything out – but apparently the CSAC is very strict on everything.
Also, Rizzo vs. Buentello is being discussed for the Affliction 2
by john on Jul 30, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good news john..aleks/silvia??
by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 30, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alos, Tito vs. Babalu as the co-main event will be made official August 6th
and Fedor earned 1.6 million dollars for Affliction Banned and now owns the righst to his fights footage in Europe, in what was one of the biggest single fight deals in the history of mma. this deal is unprecedented and some are calling his manager Finklestein, the drew rosenhause of mma!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin: I am praying that its Aleks vs. Sylvia! Aleks would rip his head off, and wipe his ass with Tim’s mowhawk!
AS for DReam, rumors are that Cro Cop will either face Overeem or the middleweight stud Akiyama!
Lets hope its Overeem…Mirko should be ashamed of himself picking on a middleweight, especially when Overeem is calling him out!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, I thought the Russian Mafioso had Heppatitis.
Thanks for the props Phil!!!
My first title defense will indeed be against John! LOL Hopefully we can get something cracking for the August 9th event.
Probably around 6-7 months ago, John passed me as the #1 poster on Mania, so I would have to peg him as the small favorite when the opening odds are posted.
MANIA, when you have the time, would you be able to post the updated list of Top Maniacs again?
Also, I only post at work (8:30-5 M-F). I just got the internet at my house again 3 weeks ago and I thought that I’d be posting more on Mania. But the fact of the matter is that I’ve only logged onto mania once at my house – the day after Affliction and UFC because I couldn’t wait till Monday to chat about it!
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s already been posted a few days ago. lots of mid terms john? you’re missing some of the more interesting (non ufc) info!!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 30, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would place money on ol’ Timmy against Aleksander. Although, Timmy is VERY susceptable to the opening onslaught, and that is pretty much Alek’s game.
Tim is primarily a striker. The one time that Aleksander fought a top notch striker was against Cro Cop, and I don’t even think he lasted 2 minutes.
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah mike, I don’t wanna see that list. I’m on from 8-2 and would feel like a total loser because I know I’m on that list. I like you, very rarely come on the week ends. a. too many moron and b. family time!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 30, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I just read a thread on here from Cro COp’s site saying that he is sick of gettting called out by Overeem and that he’d fight him. Whats going on? If Cro Cop does indeeed fight a MW instead, I OFFICIALLY consider his career to be over.
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, what homo conducted that interview??? His last question was:
“What do you think of Mike Bisping? Don’t you think he’d look so much cooler if he had a few tattoos?”
WTF???
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, if cro cop fights akiyama, I will be done talking about him.
VM: u will get your crown back as the top poster soon, because Starting september, i will have a 6 month internship for school, so I doubt I will be able to post during the day. Maybe I can sneak a comment here and there during Lunch Breaks, but they should definetly match us up for the UFC 87 analysis…we can each pick a fighter on every fight and break it down. I would love to go head to head with you my friend!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right O’Damn, VM, Kevin and Linx. You’re the guys I know that post from work. John, I know you post from school / college.
To everyone else mentioned, please list your Job titles. I’m really intrigued as to what job I should be looking for lol
by Automation on Jul 30, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am in the marketing department for a Fortune 500 company. E-Commerce marketing specifically, also maintaining the online store. I would include the company name, but some hater out there may be looking to do some harm…
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do business Ops for a large staffing/temporary employment agency. It sounds much more important than it really is and I’m not getting rich any time soon,( just so everyone knows i am not making up some fancy job). We sell franchises to over glorified sales reps….. I mean upstanding business owners, and i make sure they don’t do anything illegal while at the same time turn a profit.
by James S on Jul 30, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does all your marketing suggestions include putting website addresses on the backend of people lol
VM, you’re not one of these guys that send all the junk emails are you? lol
OJR stated that he works for the US Fed Govt. Its good to know where some of the taxpayers money is going, MMAMANIA lol. I bet he deals with tax.
I’m already starting to worry by who I’m posting with lol
by Automation on Jul 30, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
James S
That almost sounds like an Auditor, I’m assuming checking their books i.e. sales vs commission paid to your company.
Whatever it is, it’s got to be time consuming.
I don’t post at work as I don’t have time at all, ever. I post on a laptop in the livingroom as the wife watches ‘Women’ TV programmes i.e. Big Bro etc.
by Automation on Jul 30, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m from the UK OJR.
Sucks to be on this site from my time zone.
When I get to be on here it goes slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.
When I come back the next night, boom, 5 new threads each been exhausted with 100+ posts. So whats left? I can’t post a comment because everyone has moved on to the next thread.
So I’m left finding out what guys do at work at try to be funny every other time lol
by Automation on Jul 30, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Auto, none of that junk mail is coming from me! The monthly email that I send out only goes out to our customers that have opted in to recieve it. It is 1.2 million. So unless you are the person that does the ordering of supplies for your ……… Whhooaa, almost gave away too much!
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some days i wish I was an auditer. Its hard to explain. i coach owners on how they need to figure their billing in order to generate net profit. A lot of these people come from a sales background, but have little or zero employment /HR background. So sometimes they call with off the wall ideas on how to make a few extra bucks, and I get the pleasure of explaining what employment laws are and how they may make a little change now, but the fines and punishment outweigh the benefit. Its good for educational purposes, but sucks as a career.
by James S on Jul 30, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Mike, you should look up to that guy Kevin. You know Kevin is the man. Kevin thinks brock lesner is totally different than kimbo. Kevin says Lesner loves the hype, too bad kevin is picking Herring and then kevin can only hear about lesner back in the wwe
by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 30, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think VM is a douchebag. Who actually thinks he’s funny? So do you just sit in front of your computer and blog all day long? VM sounds like a person who wouldn’t say sh*t to a person face to face but can tough talk someone through his computer knowing he’ll never see them.
by Matt on Jul 30, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa…I tell you what, don’t know what to say!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 30, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM is one of the guys on this site who actually gives an analysis to prop up his opinions. Thankfully, there aren’t very many people such as you who only critique on nothing save on how someone else chooses to spend their time. So Matt, in the opinion of most on this site, I would think YOU come across as the douchebag.
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt-
You picked the wrong fight. VM has alot of admiration from his fellow posters. Watch out!
by OJR on Jul 30, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Chef!
And MATT, this douchebag LITERALLY gets paid GOOD money to blog on this site and then goes home to get a perfect 10.0 blowjob from my hot wife. Meanwhile, you post in your Grandparents basement as you wait for your next beasteality video to load so you can continue to man handle your little choad since you can’t find a single female to do so. SORRY stippers and prostitutes don;t count.
Also, I can’t remember any time I made a “wildman” claim saying that I can defeat a UFC fighter. That would just be silly. Instead I analyze who would beat who.
Ready buddy, here you go, I’ll break down a fight between ViolentMike and Wanderlei Silva for you:
Wanderlei Silva. What can be said about the Axe Murderer that hasn’t been said already. He gets paid to murder people in a cage. He looked a bit small for the LHW’s of the UFC when he fought Chuck Liddell, BUT then he fought Keith Jardine who is a solid sized LHW. Wanderlei beat him within inches of his life, or so it seemed. The Axe Murderer is back and here to stay!
ViolentMike is coming into the LHW fight very undersized at only 5’10" and 160 lbs and lacking ANY sort of pro MMA experience at all. That is probably why the odds makers opened this fight having the Violent One as a +1,000,000,000 underdog, and rightfully so.
I see the bell ringing, Wanderlei coming out the gate swinging and ViolentMike being put into a critical coma for 8 months.
Its a bit more fun analyzing two people that actually FIGHT FOR A LIVING!!!!!!!
I got 74 minutes and counting until my next blowjob. How long you got Matty?
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mania, can you please post my response!!!
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM-
Don’t let him get you upset. Its not worth it. Trolls like to bait…
by OJR on Jul 30, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubts OJR!
However, when my response it posted, its a MUST READ!!!
LOLOLOL
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
matt.. I find your comment pretty funny..and the person you are describing isn’t my shizzle VM..it’s you.
matt.. I find your comment pretty funny..and the person you are describing isn’t my shizzle VM..it’s you.“I think Matt is a douchebag. Who actually thinks he’s funny? So do you just sit in front of your computer and blog all day long? Matt sounds like a person who wouldn’t say sh*t to a person face to face but can tough talk someone through his computer knowing he’ll never see them.”
matt.. I find your comment pretty funny..and the person you are describing isn’t my shizzle VM..it’s you.“I think Matt is a douchebag. Who actually thinks he’s funny? So do you just sit in front of your computer and blog all day long? Matt sounds like a person who wouldn’t say sh*t to a person face to face but can tough talk someone through his computer knowing he’ll never see them.”Do you recognize your own reflection in the mirror?
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winner by self deprecating humor and funny braggadocio!
-VM
by OJR on Jul 30, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too funny. Be careful VM, maybe he’s one of those weirdos who “will travel.” lol
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VM, I’m Jealous lol
I’ve got three kids so BJs are rare in these parts, but when I get one DAMN lol
5’10" 160lbs? I’m 5’8" and 160lbs……..well ok 5’7 1/2" :(
by Automation on Jul 30, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife recently had surgery so we haven’t been able to have “intercourse” for the last two weeks. But, boy oh boy, she has been making up for it!!!!!
AND, get this sh*t… She had surgery that (long story short) gives her a tingling/shocking sensation near her bladder/kidneys. Doc say’s that I’ll most likely feel it when I’m inside her.
I’ve beeen DYING to try it out!!!!!!!!!
Now Matt, please don’t go and stick your wee-wee into an electrical socket in attempts to idolize me.
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt: My boy just Murdered you! SUPER BURN!!!!!! I* dont even have to come at you because u just got CRUSHED on here! “telephone tough guy” -joe pesci, lethal weapon 4
VM: U know I am the one that started referring to you as the Violent one!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes indeed. And I like it!!!
Accept when I say it, I really do sound like a douchebag, but I found it highly appropriate for my post above!
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell are u still doing on here? late day at work?
U dont sound like a douche, that dude was asking for it!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA! Matt, ya got rippppppped! lol.. straight comedy. electrical socket! wtf!
by kama kaze on Jul 30, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, I got caught up in this craziness and stayed 20 minutes late to let some kid know whats up!
by ViolentMike on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d like to take his wife for a harley ride too!!!
by deuce 4 on Jul 30, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get some of you guy’s choice in women. when a woman puts an inch thick layer of make up on, she’s not really hot! If you can stand to look at her at 6 a.m. after a long night, marry he…I did!
by kevin doesn't know shit on Jul 30, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so true! If she looks good dressed down, you know she’ll look good dressed up! It does NOT always work the other way around. Kevin , I have a great question/analysis for you guys and Mania for topic of the day. at work now, but will post it this afternoon.
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always judge the beauty of a woman, by the way she looks the next morning when she wakes up next to me!! that test never failed me!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if you judge it at the bar at 2 in the morning, well……we all know how that goes!
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aleks would rip his head off, and wipe his ass with Tim’s mowhawk!
John: Now thatis some funny shit!! Thanks for the news on Affliction.. That’s a bad break for ALeks.. now I would like to see Rizzo/ Rothwell.. neither will shoot for a takedown..both like to bang.. but I think Rizzo would do better against The head hunter.. IMO.. Babalu vs Tito. .and Fedor on the same card.. that’s hard!!
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys really think if Lesnar loses (which is a very big possibility) that UFC will throw him in the undercard or worse cut him?
by open24hrz on Jul 30, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, he’s hear to stay. If he get’s beat they’ll give him someone easier untill he gets a couple of wins. He’s just too big of a marketing dream to flush down the drain. Makes me wonder why they would give him Mir when they did…?
by Arnold on Jul 30, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He asked for that fight. And it was a bad match-up for Lesnar. Herring on the other hand is not fast enough, strong enough or good enough at submissions to pose a major problem for Lesnar.
by PW on Jul 30, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind that he was pounding the crap out of Mir when he got knee-barred. He got caught, plain and simple, and that was against a VERY seasoned former champ. I think if he had played a cagier fight, rather than go into balls to the wall attack mode, he might have been able to take Mir. Herring is one tough SOB (haha Stone Cold WWE reference), and Brock will have to pound on him for a while to get the win, but I don’t think Herring has the tools to beat Brock. I’m looking forward to seeing a longer match so we can see Brock’s skill set. This card is pretty good, with GSP/Fitch, Huerta/Florian(probably fight of the night), and Brock/Heath. I’m excited.
by --utaptout-- on Jul 30, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Mazzaggatti didnt blow the fight, Lesnar would have probably won!
by john on Jul 30, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really dont understand how you think Mazz blew the fight? Mir was never really in a lot of trouble… Mazz took a point away from Lesnar, but he got subbed a minute after that so why did it matter?
by brendan (on TheNEgation's case) on Jul 30, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep just what i was gonna say. he had mir pinned tothe ground and was on his way to a victory before pornstache stood them back up.
by KitsuneX on Jul 30, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir admitted that he was seeing stars! Maz blew the fight because only 1 hammerfist hitthe back of Mir’s head, that should have been the warning, but instead Maz stopped the fight, let Mir recoup and restarted the fight standing. Mir was another Hammerfist or 2 from being KTFO.
I am not much of a Brock fan, but I feel bad for him because I really believe he would have won that fight if it wasnt for Maz
by john on Jul 30, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
frank mir looked unimpressive since his motorbike accident, i think ufc and many other people thought lesnar would win and then ufc could hype him up for having beaten a former ufc champ
by blakemore on Jul 30, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how? he lost to a game brandon vera.. i will agree mir is unimpressive but really he never was impressive, he beat tank abbot, whats that mean kimbo gets a shot now?,and submitted tim sylvia but a bjj white belt could do that, and he CAUGHT brock with a LUCKY submission, you cant say that wasn’t all luck either,and brock was unexperienced and freaked out
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s luck that’s carried him all the way to the next HW title fight.
by PW on Jul 30, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah really it is, he lost how many fights in a row before that win, then catches a submission and gets a title shot? werdum was much more deserving
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it safe to say you feel the same about Kimbo?
by DonJuan on Jul 30, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have nothing to say about Mimbo until he actually has a non-fixed fight against a real MMA fighter.
by PW on Jul 30, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is a project, a prototype. And the org won’t throw that away. He’ll do well in the future…
by TheNegation on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they should put lesnar up against shane carwin next. find out which specimen has the more potnetial. they’re both newcomers to the sport so it wouldn’t be a mismatch. it’d be a good measure as to how good carwin is too.
by deuce 4 on Jul 30, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he’ll get cut, but I can see the UFC somewhat hiding his terrible record somehow… that is, if he loses. It would seriously hurt the UFC’s cred to put big promo dollars behind a guy that’s 1-2.
by ARodOfIron on Jul 30, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock: You are one of a kind without a doubt..IMO in UFC87..keep the fight on the Mat.. If Heath connects with a Kick/knee..i don’t think your grill is built like Big Nog’s..shoot.. shoot..shoot. GnP.. scramble.. shoot..shoot. .shoot.. that is all you should be doing in this fight.. I know you want to fight the best, and you bring in tons of new fans to MMA..butto go 0-2 in the UFC..is suicide..that matter if you not like everyone else. Bottom line did you win or lose.
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Lesnar fights the way he did with Mir, there is no way he will lose this fight. The only way he loses this fight is if he gets tentative, and Herring catches him with a few big shots.
by UFCAddict on Jul 30, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, if he gets crazy with Heath he might catch a right hand upside the dome before it even gets to the ground. Herring ain’t afraid of anyone, I won’t be surprised if he goes after Brock like he did Kongo at the beginning of Rd1
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you’re right and it’s a good fight. I’m just afraid that Heath will be worried about being taken down, and that will make him tentative… which will make it even easier for Brock.
by UFCAddict on Jul 30, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you hear what mir said about that shot of brocks though? i believe it was “i knew it was coming and i thought i could hit him before he got me but no way he’s fast”
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez are the future of the HWY division. IMHO that is why the UFC is willing to let guys like Arlovski and Sylvia go to other organizations. You’ve got to hand it to Brock, he’s not shying away from true competition.
by Muscle Dolphin on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those 3 guys are the future for sure! Maybe the UFC needs to start pushing them more into bigger fights though?
by JV on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this is “Step 1” of those bigger fights you’re mentioning.
by TheNegation on Jul 30, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC needs to give all of them at least two more fights each that end in convincing wins to build them up. Then you’re looking at some massive PPV cards. When Dana can put together a HW fight between two guys who are massive and ripped instead of fat and sloppy and also at the top of the division he’ll really have something.
by PW on Jul 30, 2008 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My money’s on Velasquez, this guy is going to dominate. He just smooth, makes it look easy in there.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll like him after he gets rid of that racist tattoo he has
by LanceLegweak on Jul 30, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mania! Can we ban this douchebag?
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why it’s the truth though, i don’t like velasquez because once he gets a bignog or a mir or a herring and they catch him in a submission he’ll be all lay n pray
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LanceLeg-WEAK…. BROWN PRIDE!!!!! All day every day. randy murders, the same goes to you. Get something better to do, or wait till he loses and then you guys came make fun of him. Oh! and might I add BROWN PRIDE!!! BROWN PRIDE!!! BROWN PRIDE!!!
by JV on Jul 30, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
randy, that’s the only thing that guy ever says. Nothing else. He post merely to incite stupid conversations. Like this one.
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that ain’t cool but he has a valid point chef
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he’s made his point. at least a dozen times. How often are we going to have to see it?
by chefdaddy on Jul 30, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake O Brien gonna take the title!!! lol im bored
by brendan (on TheNEgation's case) on Jul 30, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I think that’s why they haven’t had any of those three fight each other, yet. They’ll probably wait until two of them could fight for a #1 contender spot. It’s kind of too bad because any combination of those three would make a good fight right now.
by UFCAddict on Jul 30, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect a severe beatdown for the crazy horse, what I think is funny is that heath doesn’t appear to be concerned at all. he should know better and watch the mir fight again, if mazzagatti hadn’t stopped the fight with that BS hit to the back of the head brock would have won in ten seconds. mir was done. and he is twice the fighter herring is..
by shamo84 on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was not B.S. Mistakes happen when you are green to the sport. He made a mistake, got caught, and lost. Thats it. Get over it. No shots to the back of the head
by Dave on Jul 30, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the ref saved Mir in his fight with Brock.. Brock was afe Hammer fists away from putting Mir out for the count.. Now.. those shots to the back of the head.. were a tad bit iffy.. Brock was n’t head Mir in the back of the head.. he was hitting Mir on the Side of the Head.. and as Brock is hammer fisting..Mir turns into to me.. which then he got caugh the back of the head.a warning atmost.. no way it should of been stopped.. point deducted and all that.. MAzzi..and Mir beat Brock at UFC80.
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea the point deduction was a little much.. usually you get at least 1 warning, I thought that was pretty lame. Not that it mattered cause it didn’t go to a decision anyway.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea that was lame. I dont get why there was no warning first? If your punching and the guy turns his head, why is that your fault?
by JV on Jul 30, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then we get a Johnson/Burns fight with a few eyepokes.. only warnings " SAME REF ".. to havethe fight end with an illegal eyepoke.. to give the TKO victory..to the poker!!!!
by PhilQNY on Jul 30, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love if in his next fight he is introduced as “Kevin the Fire Poker Burns”.
by UFCAddict on Jul 30, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think mir would be scared to death to have to fight brock again.
by shamo84 on Jul 30, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if he’d be afraid of him, but I don’t think Mir wins a rematch. He was giving him a TON of respect during the post-fight interview, and it almost seemed like he realized he may have gotten lucky. I mean no disrespect to Mir, but if Mazzagatti hadnt stopped the fight and allowed Mir to recover, Mir might still be in a coma.
by --utaptout-- on Jul 30, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in my opinion lesnar, has no place in the heavyweight division. I mean by no fault of his own, the guy is a genetic freak. But i also feel he has to much of a strength and power advantage, and dana needs to go find a bunch of big dumb goons that brock can beat on in a super heavy division. That way brock can be a champ and be marketable, while also staying out of a division he has no reason to be in
by Dave on Jul 30, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana can barely find enough legitimate HW fighters to fill the current HW division. Where the hell is he going to find a bunch of 300-pounders that aren’t fat slobs (besides Scumbag Shaw) to form a SHW division?
by PW on Jul 30, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Dave conceding that Brock is to good for the HW division?
by ViolentMike on Jul 30, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brock vs. Bob Sapp? That oughta be interesting
by --utaptout-- on Aug 2, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t think this is a good fight for Lesnar. Heath Herring is a phenomenal fighter. He’s only been submitted once and TKO’d twice (not counting cuts or injuries) by Cro Cop and once by knees. I just think Lesnar is sub par in every category vs. the Crazy Horse.
Lesnar is still too big for MMA & the UFC. All that muscle mass kills his cardio. He needs to cut back on the weights a little and concentrate on not gasing from throwing 30 seconds of punches. Don’t get me wrong, he’s extremely entertaining to watch and has potential, but the Crazy Horse is in the upper echelon of the heavyweight class.
by DaneJa260 on Jul 30, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what fight did you see last long enough to make that assumption
by Ro-J on Jul 30, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok so the fight lasted 1:30 secs. Is that better? Lesnar’s punches fell short of what he could have potentially done. He cocks his fists back about a foot before he’s swinging down again.
Short & Lazy Punches =Fatigue= Muscle Mass + Lactic Acid
I guess its not a problem when your strategy is to win in the 1st Rd. or get submitted in the 1st Rd. He’s gonna have to cut that muscle mass if he ever wants to progress in the UFC.
Any more brain bustin’ questions?
by DaneJa260 on Jul 30, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got submitted, he by no means gassed out. And with those "short & lazy " punches that were about a foot away made Mir see Flashes of white every time they touched him. Mir said that himself. You should probably watch him fight again and see if he gasses out before you make your scientific analysis. And how the heck does Short & Lazy Punches =Fatigue= Muscle Mass + Lactic Acid? That doesn’t even make sense.
by Psyqo78®™ on Jul 30, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually not a bad assumption, the more muscle mass you have the more oxygen your body needs to operate properly, while I would say Brock’s credentials/build make him the better wrestler Heath is still the more experienced more well rounded fighter. The longer this fight lasts the more it is to Herring’s advantage I think. Lesnar is still new to this so every minute that goes by is more time for him to make a mistake that Heath could possibly capatilize on. And Brock just has more to carry around, his body just eats up more energy to operate at peak performance. All just conjecture of course, not saying this is how it’s going to be for sure, thats just how I see it. I can’t wait for the fight either way.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his cardio will be just fine. The guys a genetic freak, and is always in tip-top shape. He’s a world class amateur wrestler, and that in itself says good cardio. I know it may not seem relevant, but those long WWE matches are tough too. Those guys have to be in phenomenal shape for that too. I’d predict Heath gassing before Brock does.
by --utaptout-- on Jul 30, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is a freak. He’s already cut muscle mass compared to his WWE build. He’s looking more like he did back when he was wrecking the NCAA. Plus, he does the same training that Sean Sherk does. Lesnar’s muscle endurance and cardio are just fine.
by Pat on Jul 30, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude he didn’t cut muscle mass, thats what happens when you come of the roids.
by ruan-fiy on Jul 30, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when did cardio come into play in the HW division. Plus he’s a wrestler – what wrestler doesn’t have decent cardio for their size. Granted I think Brock still needs some training but if Josh Koscheck can improve into becoming a decent mma fighter than so can Brock.
-Chris
by Chris on Jul 30, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Lesnar really isn’t like anybody else! He’s a mutant! So unique that his genetic structure isn’t aligned like that of any fighter in the industry real time! Freaks are indeed 1 in a million!
by TheNegation on Jul 30, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats why I say Lesnar will be a BEAST!!! He’s got that intensity that most dont. Thats what he needs to do, stay agressive and just kill people. Man I cant wait for this fight!!!
by JV on Jul 30, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just watched the Mir fight again the other day and he made Mir look like a little kid in size… Crazy. Lesnar just needs to stay a little more composed this time, get the takedown and GnP’s Herring for a TKO.
by BNF on Jul 30, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Composer is exactly what he needs. I think his brain goes 100 miles an hour like he does. I really want Lesnar to do good.
by JV on Jul 30, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heath Lost to Jake Obrien, Lesnar just needs to use the Lesnar blanket and he will win
by mrfancypants on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point. However, Herring has shown alot of improvement since that fight.
If Brock can get to him early, the advantage is to Brock.
If Herring prolongs the fight, its his to lose.
I base this on the fact that Brock’s cardio has not been tested in MMA.
by OJR on Jul 30, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What little I saw of Brock against Mir impressed me tremendously. Yeah he got caught but he’s still very new to the game and that happens. Plus Mir is an elite BJJ artist. I think though if Brock loses this fight the UFC will restructure his contract so he’s not getting so much money. I believe the UFC puts that in a lot of contracts where if a high profile fighter loses two in a row the UFC has the right to lower their purse amount.
by Tigerfansince84 on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With the TUF guys they have a contract stating the UFC can terminate their employment if they don’t perform. Not that I think that would happen with Brock.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him! im gutted he lost to Mir as he looked a beast and was doing well. this isnt a easy fight but he is favorite? Crazy Horse is decent odds. This is what a Heavyweight of the world should look like! so thats why i want him to keep winning and get the title if possible.
by Tony on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm… i would say it’s “die” then…!
Another guy that thinks he’s god, maybe?
by MikeJJ on Jul 30, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is shit, i didn’t see any talent in either of his fights. He talks alot for some1 who has not had a amutuer fight and is 1-1 in his record. I wonder what part of Herring’s body he’ll be tapping cos he looked good slapping Mir’s ass.
by ruan-fiy on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If there is one thing I’d NEVER put money on, its Herring tapping Brock. Not to say he can’t beat him(although I doubt he will), just not by submission.
by --utaptout-- on Jul 30, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i think i’ve only seen heath submit guys with RNC who were already down on all fours and it still looked sloppy as hell.
i’m a heath fan and a lesnar fan, but i really think the magic 8 ball reads “outlook not so good” for hearing in this one.
by newkoba on Jul 30, 2008 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heath wants to keep it on the feet, and Brock wants to take it down to the mat. Both of them will just want to SMASH the other guy’s face in. One of their faces is going to look f’d up after the fight. I’m betting that Heath’s will.
by UFCAddict on Jul 30, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d like to see Heath try to lock in a RNC on brock.. the dude has no neck!
by kitsunex on Jul 30, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock will win this one. You can quote me on that.
by LanceLegweak on Jul 30, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Brock will win this one.” -LanceLegweak
by UFCAddict on Jul 30, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock will win in the 1st via G&P, his take down of mir for A HW was out of this world. Everyone seems to 4get that his one of the best wrestlers in the history of the sport. Think about all of the other good wrestlers that have done well in the UFC? And the average ones like Kos. I think Brock is good for the sport of MMA and excellent for the UFC!
by Cjgilly on Jul 30, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah dude they just seen him in WWE nevermind he lost what 3 matches from freshman year in high school to senior year in college at minnesota? and 1 was in the ncaa title match..
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Kos an average wrestler? He’s a 4-time All-American and a formed D1 champ.
by Pat on Jul 30, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, gilly, kos is no where near average, hes is one of the top 3-5 wrestlers in the ufc along with lesnar, hammill, couture, and st pierre, in no particular order
by Dave on Jul 30, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cb has skills too,as does hughes,and diego,and fitch was also talented wrestler at least up there with hammil, cant forget hendo he was a 2 time olympian,
by randy murders on Jul 30, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats true becuse i watched the wwe back then and he was just unbelievable picking up 500 pound guys and throughing them about lesnar will win the heavyweight title hes so good powerfull 4 time all american nockout power good standup all he needs to do is work on getting caught in leg locks because wrestlers have lean legs when works that out he be fine and theres no chance he will get caught in an armbar just look at him
by mma maniac on Jul 30, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha … Brock Lesnar is the biggest UFC blunder yet. Herring is going to KO Lesnar. Lesnar’s chin has never been tested and I hear Herring is the most fit he’s ever been. I’m sorry but Herring is not going to stomp on the ground to make loud sounds when he punches. He is going to straight knock Lesnar out and leave him in the undercards or maybe the freakshow where Lesnar belongs.
by bostonmmajunkie on Jul 30, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow a jab at his pro-wrestling stint. how incredibly original of you.
by KitsuneX on Jul 30, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If his chin has never been tested, how do you know how good/bad it is?? You make no sense. Also, Herring isn’t going to get a chance to test it either, he has no take down defense… Lesnar by GnP Rd. 1
by Harrison on Jul 30, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are hilarious! ViolentMike gets the comedy gold star of the day.
I’m gonna go against the grain and say Lesnar destroys Herring in the 1st round.
by MMACrossfire on Jul 30, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This match will end via gogoplata….. then dana will anounce that he signed an army of teen wolfs to fight the winner for the nye show.
by doomdoom on Jul 30, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a pretty good prediction. If Lesnar gets the mount its gonna be hard for him to G&P w/o putting one of his arms or hands down on the mat. Lesnar is just to big and its gonna be hard for him to hold himself up and G&P. This may just leave an opportunity for the Crazy Horse. The omaplata and gogoplata are probably the best chance for Herring to get a submission on his back. Lesnar will muscle through any triangles or armbars. I doubt Herring can even get his legs around Lesnar’s upperbody for a triangle. Haha.
by DaneJa260 on Jul 30, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fight will go like this: heath will throw slow, hard punches until he’s taken down and pounded out, he will then stand up and protest and early stoppage and tell joe rogan “if this were a wrestling match, brock won. i though this was MMA. i though we were sposed tuh fight, not wrestle.”
by clayton on Jul 30, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the only way Lesner will get knocked out by Herring is if he kisses Herring before the match starts….
anyone remember that?
by jet99 on Jul 30, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The best part about that moment was Heath’s convincing plea to the ref. “He kissed me! He kissed me!!!” Instant classic.
by DaneJa260 on Jul 30, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH NO! Has anybody seen Matt? There you are…Matt…Matt… hey buddy…you Ok?
by Jrandolph on Jul 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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